The Monday Touchdown: AAAARRRRGGGH
Now that I look at the title of this edition of Monday Touchdown, I realize that I sound like a pirate. I assure you, I am not a pirate... kind of wish I was though (drifting off into fantasy land where I imagine myself swashbuckling on the high seas).
.......... hold on..........
Okay, I'm back. That was fun. I need some fun after what happened yesterday. To be honest, this Monday Touchdown is going to be harder to write than most. Losing sucks but losing to the Browns always seems to leave a much more bitter taste in my mouth. I can get over losing to the Patriots in the opening game of the season but getting over a loss to the Browns is a little harder to do. Hopefully the Reds will pull me out of my funk by this weekends game against Tampa Bay. So... here's the seven things that I liked about the loss to the Browns. That's really really hard to say.
Point One: Carson Palmer says "Shut Up"
Carson Palmer has taken some shots this season. Considering how many weapons he has at his disposal, Palmer hasn't put up the pro bowl numbers that many expected he would. His passer rating was low and then got lower and the Bengals offense stalled and eventually seemed to stop. When a ship runs aground, the captain is always to blame whether he was at the helm or not (maybe I am a pirate). Well, Palmer is the captain of the Bengals offense and when the Bengals offense fails to produce the captain, Palmer, is going to have the most fingers pointed at him. He broke a whole bunch of fingers on Sunday.
Even though the Bengals lost and the offense didn't produce on every drive, Palmer silenced critics by throwing for 371 yards and two touchdowns. He finished with a 121.4 passer rating which is the second highest he's ever had in a loss. Minus a couple bad throws under pressure, Palmer looked like the Palmer we expect to see every week. He showed us that he is perfectly capable of taking over the game when he needs to and that he is good enough to take the Bengals where the Bengals want to go. Hopefully he plays that way from here on out.
Point Two: TO
Everybody that asked how a defense could cover Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens at the same time had their question answered on Sunday. It can't be done if everybody does their job right. That's the catch. Palmer wasn't the only guy who had his best game of the season against the Browns. TO did too. By a lot. TO ended the game with 10 catches for 222 yards including a 78-yard touchdown bomb down the sideline. This is why the Bengals signed him.
Point Three: Dhani Jones
The guy goes to other countries and participates in their sporting events and immerses himself into their culture and on top of all of that, he video tapes it so we can watch what we don't have enough money to do. Oh yeah, and the dude makes bow ties look really awesome. I bought one and tried it on when I got home and I looked like an idiot. I want to be Dhani Jones.
Almost forgot about Dhani the football player. He led the Bengals in tackles on Sunday with nine (seven solo tackles) and he leads the Bengals so far with 32 (21 solo tackles). Keith Rivers is second on the team with 24. Jones is proving that he's not only awesome on the field, he's pretty awesome on it. I really want to be Dhani Jones.
Point Four: Leon Hall
Leon Hall has intercepted a pass in all of the last three games. Hall is half of one of the NFL's best cornerback duos. While I wish Hall's interception would have given the Bengals a win against the Browns, I can't complain with three interceptions in four games. Hall and Joseph should both make every quarterback doubt himself every time the ball leaves his fingers.
Point Five: Defending one of their own
I'm not in the position to say whether a big hit in the NFL is legit or not. What I can say is when I compare the hit laid on Jordan Shipley by T.J. Ward to the hit that Chinedum Ndukwe got a penalty for, they weren't really close to being the same. Ndukwe shouldn't have been flagged. Oh well. It was nice to see that Shipley's teammates, namely Palmer and Owens, came to his defense after the game, calling for T.J. Ward to be fined for the hit.
"It’s a cheap shot and a shot that shouldn't happen," said Palmer. "When you see a guy laying on the ground like that it makes you realize how violent this game can be. But he’s a tough kid and didn’t make any excuses for it and he’ll want to play next week. I hope he doesn’t because of the situation but that’s the type of guy he is and you love his attitude and love the way he approaches the game."
Shipley is a rookie but I'm glad that everybody on the team is close enough that guys that usually don't speak out (Palmer... not TO) are willing to say something for their teammate.
Point Six: It's not a killer
Can you tell I'm reaching for things now? Even though the Bengals lost their first game to the Browns (GAG), the Bengals season and chances to be back to back AFC North Champs are just as good. Don't get me wrong, a loss to the Browns is a pretty big blemish on any record but as long as the Bengals take care of business with the rest of the AFC North, they should be primed to make the playoffs two years in a row as the champs of one of the toughest divisions in the NFL.
Extra Point: Wake up call
If the Bengals lost because they walked into the Browns stadium thinking that the game was won before it started then they just got a huge wake up call. News flash to the Bengals: If the Browns can beat you then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers certainly can. It would have been nice to see the Bengals go into the bye week with a 4-1 record... that's the way it should have been. Instead, the Bengals will play against the Buccs this Sunday at home to go into the bye week with a 3-2 or a 2-3 record. Hopefully the embarrassing loss to the Browns is enough of a wake up call and motivator for the Bengals to make it 3-2.
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What I really loved was CP9's confidence.
He looked like a different guy out there all day. It was great to see him believing in himself. When they showed him on the sideline staying loose while he was waiting for the D to get the ball back so he could march down the field and win it for us, I knew we had this game won.
Then the defense didn’t get the job done. I hope he keeps that swagger from here on out.
na I dont think he looked confident in his protection
maybe in himself but not overall confidence in the offense
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Confidence in himself, TO, Gresham and Chad is a nice start.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
sorta
watch the MNF game on right now and watch Brady stand up in the pocket and not have happy feet
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
We lost to the Browns because of Penalties and turnovers...
Also we get absolutely no pass rush ever and its really irritating
yes
I know knocking the O is the trendy thing right now but the pass rush has been bad all year.
by smoormandiddy on Oct 4, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont knock because it's trendy
I knock em because they need a knocking.
on the pass rush……see my fanpost for more
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont understand any play calls by Brat
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont understand alot of decisions by Brat...but mostly I dont understand why B.Scott rides the pine
I love Ced but B. Scott is a playmaker..yet there he sits on the bench. Seriously needs more time. Why we dont throw screen passes to him and use him in the passing game is beyond me.
Scott
He is flat out better than Ced and should at the very least get half the touches.
J
Faster, Quicker, and a playmaker yes
But Benson is still a beast
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
RE: Better than Ced
based on what? his yds per carry avg…..for 3-4 touches a game? Yes he has a better avg, but he is not an everydown AFC North running back and you know it. I agree we need to use him more, particularly in space (ie: screens, tosses, etc) but you can’t honestly say he’s better than Ced and believe it. He’d never hold up for a full season (specifically this season w/our loaded back half of the schedule)
NO HUDDLE???
The reason they are having success in the no huddle is because:
1. It’s rythmn and timing.
2. The playbook “IS” limited.
3. There is far less audible calling!
4. We send the defense the message, here we come, now play us!
We don’t need to resort to it as much as "simplfy the playbook, and blocking schemes and let the defense stop us. Do the things above and we will have linemen who are not confused about the snapcount, or their blocking assignments. This will allow them to be more aggesssive whether it’s run or pass. We will have recievers who can be more dedicated to their routes. We will have a QB who has time to throw the ball. The things to stop are:
1. Shoulder taping between the guard and center. Defenses are keying on that to launch!!
2. Stop audibling so much, and when you do, audible to a PASS, a different PASS, a short PASS, a long PASS, but for pete’s sake STOP audibling to a RUN!!!!!!!!
I think Carson os OVER-READING the defense…
You only make adjustments when you have a chance to see the other teams’ tendencies and how they are defending you. I know it sounds simple, and it really “IS”!
Offense
We are horrible in the red-zone at less than 40% which is 22nd in the league and Ced is starting to remind me of Rudi in his last year as the starter in that he falls with little contact and isn’t very explosive at all. His long for the year is 13 yards which is both the lowest of any running back in the top 30 in yards, and pathetic. Palmer looked better but this season is going to hinge on our defense.
J
I really liked CP9 getting in the face of T.J. Ward after that hit. That showed me that he is the true leader of this team. I want to see more of that passion from him out there every Sunday.
My finger still stands straight
He has to show me more, he put up alot more stats vs the browns (only counts in fantasy leagues) and still scored the same amount of points that we did vs the Panthers. He doesnt deserve all the blame, Roland is just horrible.
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And if the defense had stopped Hillis
Then we might have been able to see Palmer come back with one of his 2 minute drills we saw so often last year to win the game.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 5, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Umm not before he got the first down that sealed the win for them
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 5, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok I get it the penalties kill us
I’ve said it before too. However the defense didn’t play well against the Browns. There was NOBODY on the end where he ran for 24 yards. If they would have stopped that run and then held them on 3rd down also, we might have seen what Palmer is so good at; a 2 minute drill for a TD.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Oct 5, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dhani Jones?
I remain skeptical on Dhani Jones. Yea, he may have led the team in tackles, but look where most of them were: 5-10 yards down field. I never seem to see him bursting through the line stuffing running backs at the LOS. And I think his coverage skills are below par. I can’t help but wondering if maybe it’s time to start playing Rey at middle and bring in Brandon Johnson or MJ as the SAM.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
As do I!!
Move Rey inside please!!
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont understand
The criticism of Dhani. Not the fastest or strongest but is constantly making plays. And how can you not love the bowtie?
by quickslant on Oct 4, 2010 9:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+2
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
And constantly getting burnt by tight ends
dont say he is not fast enough to cover them. If that is the case, he should be cut because that is his job.
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the biggest thing we are not mentioning is.....
Is consistancy on both the def and off! I am to happy Carson got off this game but wheer was the D at??? Or it’ll be vice versa next week the D will show up and Carson will be off! The bengals pass rush a majority of the time sends just the line and drop everyone else! I wroked against Carolina and The Ravens and I’d even say the Browns too but give Wallace some credit for being able to avoid some of the sacks! The pass rush for the Bengals are the front four and they make the pocket smaller and smaller, It works for the most part and the sacks will come. Watch this week against Freeman, He is going to try to scrabble out of it and we should get 2-3 sacks when he does! I just want to see some consistancy though! The whole team playing on all cylinders! And When the Bengals get the lead they rarely loss it! We got to score quick and in a hurry, F the come backs, I literally had a moment of silence after this last lost I was so hurt lol! Who Dey
Consistancy is the key
we need this
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The defensive line is one of the worst in the NFL
and the OL isn’t that good.
Too much to overcome.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 4, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
D-line is way overrated
hopefully they can step up
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 4, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that the Bengals needed 3 players to come
through this year. But two are doing nothing, and one isn’t doing much.
They needed big fat-ass Andre Smith to become a stud right tackle, in order for the team to reach the next step and win a playoff game. (They made no real offensive line changes and the line was not that good last year, not Super Bowl caliber).
But fat-ass looks like a BUST!
On the defensive line they need Dunlap to do something as a rookie (so far nothing) and Michael Johnson to step up as a pass-rushing specialist (so far not much from him, although I bet in a Ravens or Steelers uniform he’d already have four sacks as they have other guys who are scary too)
This Bengals team isn’t that talented. They had holes on OL, DL, S, WR, and TE last year. They probably solved the holes at WR and TE in the offseason with Gresham and Shipley. But nobody else is doing anything! They didn’t really even address the safety problem in a serious way.
There will be no playoffs this year. Not in this division. The Steelers and Ravens are way too good, the Bengals look like they’ll go 3-3 in the division and be mediocre outside the division.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 5, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
NO play-offs this year
I can’t say that the Ravens are to good for us to beat since we beat them, just as the Jets and Steelers should have had they had better QB play. The Steelers just lost to the aforementioned Ravens. Yes we are coming off a bad loss, but the Ravens and Steelers will have a bad loss or 2 themselves. Yes there are plenty of things to improve, but we should have beaten the Browns (who usually play us tough in Cleveland). We need to right the ship over the next 2 weeks, but every team we play is beatable if we put together some complete games, ie combine the defense from weeks 2 and three withthe offense from weeks one and 4, into one game.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
I was super angry...
That loss made me want to puke.. we blow it .. always.. that game essentially gave away the AFC north title.. but oh well.. the stupid homerism of this blog never amazes me..
POINT #1: PENALTIES KILL
POINT #2: INCONISTENCY ON THE DEFENSE AND THE OFFENSE
POINT #3: BRAT SUCKS
as long as the fans continue to remain optimistic about blowing the season and the terrible coaching and play.. this team will continue to remain the butt of the joke…
I’M SICK OF IT..
and next time Garrison.. watch the game…. cause this post sounds like you caught the replay on TV.. the scoreboard says 3 points.. but WE GOT OUR ASS KICKED.. act like it..
You hate homerism, I hate blind stupidity.
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
RE;
great analysis, no one thought of any of those 3 points….you really think we just gave away the AFC N title? thats cool, see ya next year then.
Next: Stupid Homerism or passionate fanbase that gets upset when expectations aren’t being met, but optimistic about the different facets of improvement game to game….you tell me, but i prefer the glass half full type of folks any day.
Next: we are 2-2, why would anyone be optimistic about blowing the season- stop using your words to paint the wrong picture….and btw being loyal fans or not being loyal has nothing to do w/the Bengals being the butt of ‘the’ joke- not sure how long you’ve been a fan, but it’s been like that for about 20 years now.
Next: Scoreboard says 3 points but we got our asses kicked…act like it?!?!?
-—-how about take away the two turnovers (6pts), convert the field goal (+3 pts) which would also more than likely negated their field goal at the end of the half (-3pts) and that gives you 9 less points for Cleveland and +3 more for the Bengals……we take care of the football and we win that game, it’s that simple. Our passing game woke up, now all we need to do is play more consistently on both sides of the ball (Ie: put together a full game) and we’ll be rolling.
Mike Brown first
I hate that mofo.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Oct 5, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny
I saw all of these problems coming in the preseason and everyone told me I was was jumping to conclusions. Hmmm….
it seems like
the offense and defense gets together before the game and decides who is going to suck that day, then the other goes out and plays well, I don’t know if I can take another year of this jeckle and hyde shit
I remember a guy......
Named Justin Smith who was a very similar player to Dhani Jones – he was never the biggest or fastest guy on the field…..but he tried hard and had a motor that never stopped. My point is, how can you defend a guy like Dhani Jones when Justin Smith was the laughing stock of this organization when he was on his way out of town. Justin Smith was always at the top of the list when it came to tackles, but NEVER got any respect because people would always say that his tackles were made “5 yards downfield.”
The bottom line is that we have DENNIS ROLAND starting at right tackle……I don’t care who you are, if you have Dennis Roland as your STARTING right tackle in the NFL you’re in big trouble. Andre Smith either needs to get his fat ass in shape and on the field….make him earn his money for God’s sake!!!
Andre was on the field..
and I hate to say it but I can see why they play Roland. I saw Andre completely whiff on at least 2 plays. He looks weak to me. The D lineman were clearly quicker and stronger than him. Honestly, from what I’m seeing his future might have to be on the interior of the line. He’s clearly not a LT and it looks like he’s not good enough to play RT either. Anthony Collins, on the other hand, is a viable option at RT
Agree on Collins
He’s always played well when given the opportunity. I don’t know what to do about Andre…I mean we owe him a significant amount of guaranteed money so it really isn’t in our best interest to cut him….but we simply cannot go into another season with Roland as our starting right tackle. We’ll need to look offensive line in the draft.
Remember when our offensive line used to be the crown jewel of this team?
by DiddyGotGrillz on Oct 5, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions

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