Andre Smith Breaks Same Foot He Broke Last Year: Could Miss Remainder Of Season
by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 11, 2010 3:48 PM EST
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PrintIf you remember, Bengals tackle Andre Smith had a procedure done earlier this year that was designed to strengthen his foot, a clean-up procedure to prevent a future break. The rehabilitation lasted much longer than the expected 10 weeks, far into training camp, slowing his development during a sophomore season that he was expected to kickoff a long-term reign as the team's starting right tackle.
The only thing is, the procedure appeared to not work at all. According to Geoff Hobson, Andre Smith broke the same foot that caused him to miss much of this year's training camp and preseason. It's the same foot that caused him to miss the entire first half of the 2009 season. Even worse is that he broke foot originally during non-contact drills during practice. Smith broke the same foot during practice on Wednesday.
On Wednesday during a pass protection set, he suffered a stress fracture of the fifth metatarsal, the bone on the outside of the foot and next to the fourth metatarsal that he broke last season and had surgically repaired in January.
While head coach Marvin Lewis told the media that a decision to have surgery would be made on Thursday, the team has elected to give Dennis Roland the start in his place. That means Robert Mathis will have a field day and Carson Palmer, well, we loved you man. Smith "could be out for the year."
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This sux...
The kid can’t catch a break. No pun intended. He was getting some good experience and now he will go back to 0. Shit man I was hoping he would finish out the year strong. Now Mathis will set a freakin record on Sunday. Over or under he gets 2 sacks.
by Cal581x on Nov 11, 2010 3:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Andre Smith and Draft Picks
I’ve had it with this team. After a multi-year season ticket holder I am done. This team proves once again (and again and again) that it’s draft picks are generally worthless-either straight out from the get go or after 1-2 seasons. It doesn’t make a difference at what level they draft, either high or low, their picks are shit. This team is shit-whether you blame the coaching (I do), the owner, or the players. This team is an embarassment. It causes nothing but stress-even when (and if) they win.
I am more relaxed already!
actually, unfair in this case
he did hold out, but he has improved right along as they predicted and had the beginnings of looking solid.
I don’t recall him having a reputation for being injury prone. This isn’t an Akili, Klingler, Big Daddy situation where everyone thought he was overrated, this is more of a Ki-Jana or Rivers situation where freaky injury makes it look bad. [not kenny irons, he had a rep for injury]
Gooble Gobble
Gooble Gobble
One of us
One of us
totally fair
we draft michael oher like we should have and we don’t have these headaches.
I thought someone stepped on his foot at practice?
Not that it just happened the way it did before? Either way, Jesus.
by Anthony Cosenza on Nov 11, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions
dress him in a mu mu for practicew
a big red one wth a “don’t step on my god damn” foot sign on it
Gooble Gobble
Gooble Gobble
One of us
One of us
I think now we should draft an OT in the first round
If Andre is hurt, play him at RT. If Andre comes back, play him at LT and shift Whitworth back to LG — and have a battle for RG between Livings, Mathis, Stephens, and Hudson.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
For a while, I've been totally against drafting OL in this draft
but now I’m unsure. I feel like having a really good O-line could fix a lot of things, and I’m a believer that the D-line has a lot of young guys and needs another year before we sound the alarm. Pass rushers take notoriously long to develop in the NFL. It may be that we just have bad players, but we’re in no position to judge that now.
IHowever, I don’t think Smith will ever be a great LT. He doesn’t have the speed or footwork to match up with the elite pass rushers in this league. He can take out middle-range pass rushers, and he’s a great run-blocker, so he’s a true starter. But he’s not a blindside blocker.
It's time to sink or Zim.
by Pardon_My_French on Nov 12, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I wish this walking tub of lard would shoot his foot off so we could move on...
Great scouting Mikey Boy!
Actually this is pretty big loss.
For those who haven’t paid attention he’s gotten better and better each week and on top of that the difference between him and Dennis Roland is huge. Might as well put this kid on IR move up Otis possibly or try to bring someone in. It’s looking like this years draft we’ll pulling for a top 7 if not top 5 with this hit to O-line. (not saying he woulda won us more games but with roland we dont stand a chance.)
Sports = Money.
RE: Roland sucks balls
REJOICE CARSON HATERS because now you’re all going to get your wish. Come Sunday, Palmer is a dead man w/Roland protecting the right side….Mathis is going to end Palmer’s season via Shrek Roland and everyone will realize the grass isn’t greener on the other side of the Palmer-Fence
Where the Hell is Collins?
Why is he not playing and the alternative to Roland?
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
maybe this is a blessing in disguise
I agree Andre Smith has been improving drastically and I have high hopes for him. Just look at the “Peko-Polamalu” hit – on that play, the key block was made by Andre Smith on the 3-4 DE, Ziggy Hood (former 1st round pick, 300 lbs). I’m not sure there’s many RT’s in the NFL who could have manhandled Hood the way he did.
Definitely missing out on playing time is going to hurt his development which sucks, but if he’s out, we’ll get a higher pick as you say and then we’d be pressed to draft another OT (maybe Sherrod or Castonzo). Then by fortune, Andre Smith comes back with a lot more recovery time (and confidence) than this past season and reclaims RT. We then shift Whitworth back to LG with the stud rookie at LT, and RG is competed for by Livings, Mathis, Hudson, and Stephens. Now suddenly, we have a young, solid offensive line which will pound away at teams with the run and give Palmer more time to throw.
I don’t know… maybe I’m being a little far-fetched and the defense does need help, but I’m a believer in a strong offensive line making everything better. If anything, going back to the run with a strong offensive line will eat up more clock and give the defense more rest like last year.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
or maybe
He comes back in after missing Training Camp at 450lbs and can’t remember anything he was taught. “Groundhog Day!”
I'm trying to be optimistic here...
keep your realist thoughts out of this, damnit
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
I think honestly he learned his lesson I really do
I think he knows how bad he was in the doghouse.
Sports = Money.
We're drafting DL in the first.
I’ll prolly be posting a list of realistic 1st rounders for us
My question is why haven’t they tried Collins at guard, I would atleast tell him to be versatile and have him try LG in practice
heres the 2011line if the rookies pan out.
LT Whitworth
LG Livings or Reggie
C Cook
RG Reggie or Otis (i see bobbie done)
RT Andre Smith
I see mathis gone after this season.
Sports = Money.
The problem with this is if Andre Smith doesn't come back healthy
or even at all. Then we’re back to either Roland, Collins (after we post a BOLO for him), or some late rounder/unproven FA at RT.
Even with a healthy returning Andre Smith, this is still essentially the same line with hopes that Hudson or Stephens will be able to replace Williams. And even with all the talent we have at the skilled positions, we still aren’t getting it done. Even if it’s an extra half a second or slightly wider hole they can provide, I think a power upgrade on the left side would take us over the edge – in addition to solidifying the line for the next 5 years.
At the very least, I think we should look into drafting an OT in the second.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Like i said with proggression I believe Stephens can.
Reggie has the makings to be that guy, O is a lot more unproven. Mind you this is the same OL that 2 yrs ago was clearing the way for Ced’s running. So it’s all just how they play.
If the need’s there I understand it. But if Andre’s healthy and Reggie or O look like they’re stepping in. We don’t need to draft OL in the first 3
Sports = Money.
on the flip side, we had the same defense last year when we were ranked #4
the caveat question is what position on the DL should we attack first? I’d like to see a little more of Carlos Dunlap to determine whether or not he’s a bust. If he does somehow turn it on, can we rely on him and a healthy Fanene with Geathers, Rucker and 3rd down MJ backing them up? What I’d hate to see is a third consecutive year where we waste a high pick on a DE.
On the DT front, obviously Peko stays, but is Tank worth holding onto even if we get a DT to replace him as the starter? And is Sims by now deemed to be a career backup?
Or… what’s the possibility of trading or unloading the salaries of Geathers, Odom, Tank, and possibly even MJ (I don’t think he’ll ever pan out as a legitimate DE, but there’s probably someone out there who would offer a lot to get him) to acquire some D-linemen via FA?
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
MJ is a DE not a LB for sure
I saw some quality minutes from MJ in the steeler game
Your prolly right with tank, odom and geathers though.
I say DE. The DE/Dt from Iowa has my eye clayborn.
Sports = Money.
Could be a shinning star
Look at his college stats. May be wrong but I think he was rated higher than Colt McCoy?
I think he can shine in the right system.
He’s a completely different QB than Carson which is a good thing. I really hope he does get a chance to play.
by jimbasa on Nov 11, 2010 6:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Two words: Ryan Fitspatrick
Now putting up the second highest QB rating in the league. I wish we could have held onto him.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
He sucked here because of Bratkowski.
by jimbasa on Nov 11, 2010 7:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and the patchwork offensive line he was playing behind
broken down Levi had to be replaced by Whitworth who had to be replaced by young Livings. Stacy Andrews, who sucked to begin with, had to be replaced by rookie Collins. Guichec (or however you spell his name) at center, sucking it up. Then you had Perry at RB instead of Rudi, Chris Henry got suspended, and Chad was injured and unmotivated.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Andre being grossly over-weight and not in great shape (per Mr. Munoz)
is probably not helping with his foot injuries. The fact that they forced this tub-o -lard to play on the right side (away from his natural left side) , putting stress on the opposit foot that had not had time to develop resistance to opposit side forces is on the Bengals. The Bengals can call it bad luck. I call it stupidity ( see David Pollock DE moved to LB).
"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski
Do we really want Andre protecting Palmer's blindside though?
Hopefully he gets surgery (if he needs it) immiidately and has a good 6 months of rest (and strictly water conditioning) before he picks back up in May
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Featherman has a valid point.
LT was his natural position, should have kept him there. It is a little different teaching RT and LT and he would probably be better at LT.
As long as that surgery includes lap band to help him get his weight under control, I say go for it.
haha, you're probably sort of kidding, but I'm wondering why a guy like him wouldn't
I mean, seriously…. I’d only be worried about the incision points creating potenial for future hernias. But shit, the less weight he’d have would counter-balance that risk.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Are you surprised?
That’s what happens when you draft a 1500 lbs whale. Terrible draft pick.
by jimbasa on Nov 11, 2010 6:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey, he's big-boned
and he’s TWICE the man you are. Literally….
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Dare I say it....
This may reach Ki-Jana level first round bust……at least Chris Perry and David Pollack had some level of productivity before injuries derailed them, hell even Akili and “Big Daddy” got onto the field and won some games..
A foot injury on a big man is much like a knee injury on a speedster, it takes away their most crucial ability. It’s like a center in basketball, once the foot goes they are just never the same.
I’m not typically a pessimist, but I think we can stick a fork in this guy.
maybe it's time to catch
the dan le-FEVER. haha. that was amazing what i did there.
no, but really, palmer might die sunday.
RIP Slim.
I can understand people being disapointed in Smith but lets get real.
The guy broke his foot! He broke it again. Hell, I feel bad for the guy.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I feel bad for him having an eating disorder
"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski
Andre Smith breaking his foot again doesn't surprise me...
The curse of Cincinnati strikes again! Whatever can go wrong always does!
MIKE BROWN STEP DOWN!!!
I don't think that the curse goes away
until Mike Brown goes away.
by BonnieBengal on Nov 12, 2010 6:13 AM EST up reply actions
Im DONE!
Im checking out on this team for a while.
Whatever moves they make, turn out to be the wrong ones. Andre Smith, Lavern Coles, Kenny Irons, Jerome Simpson, etc. etc.
This team is going nowhere. Palmer is in the bottom half of NFL QBs, the O-line is terrible, offensive coordinator is a joke, the Defense is back to mediocre, the leadership is cheap and uninspiring, and Mike Brown is a doofus.
Blow this team up and start again.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Fat Bastard
busted draft pick number 11,000,000 for the Bungles.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Nov 13, 2010 11:38 AM EST reply actions
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