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Post-Game Open Thread: Bengals Find New Ways To Beat Themselves To The Colts, 23-17.

40 yards stood between the Bengals and victory this week when a new goat emerged. Jermaine Gresham's fumble was the Bengals' 5th turnover of the day. He was just fighting for more yards, refusing to go down, but then he actually started to go down and the ball squirted loose. Colts recover, game over barring a miracle.

The Bengals beat themselves for the 6th time this season, racking up turnovers and penalties while outplaying the opposition in some statistical aspects of the game - things like yardage, anyway. They lost in points and they lost in turnovers and they lost the game. This team has been simply amazing in finding ways to lose. They dig holes, they turn the ball over in unimaginable ways, they drop big passes and ALMOST convert huge plays, but they lose.

The Colts did absolutely nothing on offense in this entire game. They didn't drive- they scored when the Bengals gave them the ball 20 yards from the endzone. Woopsies! Story of the season. There's talent and we all know it. But you know, when you turn the ball over 5 times and lose by 6, you really should have won that football game. When you get sacked twice in the row with the game on the line, well, I guess I take that last sentence back.

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We should've have won this game

dont cut Ocho, dont cut Shipley, dont cut Scott, but Palmer dude….you got to go brother or take a major major pay cut

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

who cares....

they stink. and they don’t care. Gresham had the gall to SMILE after that. Cut him, he has been Bengalized.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

2010's team is definitely the most disappointing team in the history of this franchise

which is one hellva statement, considering what this franchise has stood for under 19 years of mike brown

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Nov 14, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a similar question

What’s the best looking vomit you’ve ever seen?

by bodacio zk on Nov 14, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d put my dog’s vomit up against yours any day!

by bodacio zk on Nov 14, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is an important discussion. You’ll have to tough it out.

by bodacio zk on Nov 14, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude

Get away from the computer if you’re eating. Enjoy you’re meal! It’s the only thing that sounds enjoyable after watching this game.

by sgiridharan1982 on Nov 14, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

And I would beat your dog's vomit

Just like the Bengals are beating themselves!

by sgiridharan1982 on Nov 14, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I was literally yelling at the TV "GO DOWN, GO DOWN, GO DOWN!"

there is NO awareness at all of the situation. They were given a gift from the refs and are TOO STUPID to even make a game of it. I hate this team.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

MARVIN LEWIS FOR GM

Let’s go, it’s the only possible step forward

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Marvin Lewis blows too

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

…but give or pretend* there’s a better option

*considering if you are Lewis, there’s a good percentage shot that you are going somewhere else

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Marvin goes somewhere else

really dont care, the guy is a retard

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

Thanks for the better/realistic option

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

anything is a better opition

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

stop doing this

dont piss me off anymore than I am

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Believe me

I am furious also, but united you stand, and divided you fall

There is common sense in all of this and I don’t think your venom is directed to the best place, that’s all

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You want better options? Gruden, Cowher, Leslie Frazier, Mike Zimmer...

Shall I continue?

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

The problem is not at Head coach, that’s all
Suggestions below

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Im sorry but it is

wasting Timeouts, wasting challenges, etc…

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

and Palmer is the Major problem with this team in my opinion

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

No to Leslie Frazier

"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski

by featherman on Nov 14, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

better than Lewis

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It's doomed b/c MB

 will not do what it takes to change things. It’s his way and that it.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

He will go, if he has sense

Lewis has made the franchise competitive – how long did we all look for that?

His issue has to be to take it to the next level. Does he get the chance?

How is the Bengals HC in 2011?

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think Marvins

calling is to be a GM. (the next level) His personality fits the profile.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely

He has brought this franchise as far as it can go. MB has lost his 201 matches, this IS progress.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Marvin Lewis is indeed a retard

He’s IQ in football is -12318470293501928374023987.

His challenges are so ridiculous that they make me laugh.

by jimbasa on Nov 14, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

my point exactly

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

welcome to 2010, its a lot like 2002

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Nov 14, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

or 1992

or whatever the fuck horrible year from this shitty two decades of mostly crap football with 2 plays where thought the Bengals might have had a chance at a playoff win (the first two of the game in 2005)

by occams_tiger_teeth on Nov 14, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hide your wife! Hide your kids!

The Bengals are on TV

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Nov 14, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

I thought you were going to write about how Palmer played well

I’m actually surprised that you wrote cut Palmer!

Nice work, Jake. The clutches of the dark side is losing it’s grip!

by sgiridharan1982 on Nov 14, 2010 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

That's satire.

I think the whole team sucks.

by jsl413 on Nov 14, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not explaining the literary device.

I’m explaining that I think the whole team sucks. I didn’t change the title either, that came from someone more powerful than me. No fun blog.

by jsl413 on Nov 14, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He did take Andre Smith in the SB Nation mock draft.

by bodacio zk on Nov 14, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

will there be any accountability at the end of the day....

no, everyone will keep their job. This team is a disaster.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

But that starts at the top

The team’s owner employs himself as the main decision maker.
You learned all you needed to know about this on hard knocks when Doofus McMoneyBags was in the meetings telling them to move scrub tight ends to defensive line and the coaches were rolling their eyes.

Scrooge McDuck is a cartoon character, or maybe he owns the Bengals

by occams_tiger_teeth on Nov 14, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No

There is no head coach for 2011.
But, the owner remains. Sell it out.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

On the Bright side

If Gresham hadn’t fumbled and we go one to score the go ahead touchdown, manning probably would have come right back and scored. That might have hurt worse. Bengalized again-they have no discipline.

"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski

by featherman on Nov 14, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Buffalo will win next week....

and the Bengals will be in position for the first pick. and Brown won’t be able to trade it away. Can a team just not pick until they want to?

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

The Bengals did once miss their turn in the draft

by not getting the card up to the front desk in time.
They can do that.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Nov 14, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

from what i understand you can forfeit you pick

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

in an uncapped year, if makes sense to just not take the first pick unless you have a can't miss prospect...

just sandbag until the middle of the round and then submit the pick.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

next time rookies are signed there will be a rookie wage scale

and MB will have to tow the line

"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski

by featherman on Nov 14, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Winnable game

Blown.

Sad that we have to look to next year.

We need to draft a QB and non-fat (you know what I mean) linemen.

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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Nov 14, 2010 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

Bengals 2011

GM : Marvin Lewis
Head coach: Mike Zimmer
OC: TBD
DC: TBD
QB: Carson Palmer

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Marvin Lewis has lost his credibility in my book

I’m a big fan of his but this is just atrocious. He needs to go and he should. I think he would be a good headcoach if he didn’t have worry about front office issues and had a GM.

by sgiridharan1982 on Nov 14, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If I was Marvin...

…the best he would ask for, for him, is to be GM

Precisely because he recognises the weaknesses.

The problem is whether he gets a chance to do this, because for all the comments, there is no realistic alternative.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

there will be no GM

ever in Brown owned Bengal team.

"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski

by featherman on Nov 14, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

NO MORE MARVIN LEWIS!!!!

what do people see in this dumbnut

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Im glad you like Marvin

I like winners and Marvin is no winner

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Finally somebody agrees with me

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Talking and walking is what I do

Marvin can go to hell, the guy is a horrible coach, I dont see what you like in him, he is a joke, absolutely pitiful

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Do it then

Be part of the solution, not part of the problem

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

no its not

Im with you

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

We all want the same thing

I think Lewis as GM is the best bet for a small-market team is what the Bengals can get. Fair enough if there is other solutions, but his record overall bears up well and the Bengals need some sort of stability going forward.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

truly embarrassing is...

the Browns will have a better record at the end of the year.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

at least the Browns lost....

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Carson Palmer needs to stay on this football team.

The Bengals need a new offensive coordinator. Bratkowski has to go. I’m sick of knowing exactly what play they are going to run.

Don't just be a fan, be a fanatic.

by Jordan G on Nov 14, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Hey,

The Cowboys are actually playing good. And that’s after firing their HC.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

GOD

Take it up with him

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Engage

Look jimbasa, we all want the same, but be constructive

We can all do the “loser” thing, but that’s not getting anyone anywhere

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

We dont all want the same

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

just like 80% of the rest of us

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I want a new HC too

I just think we need somebody like Lewis to handle MB b/c there is no one else that can manipulate him like Lewis can. So Lewis for GM.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

B/c that is something Paul Brown told Mike Brown

not to do. I remember reading about something saying that was Paul Browns wish to his son. Not to hire a GM. So Mike Brown in living in the past. It all goes back to when Paul was with the Browns and Art Modell fired him.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

your in that 20%

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

And there was me thinking...

…you said your were leaving ;-)

Look, all comments are valid. Keep it constructive.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

You want Marvin to be our lifetime coach

You are a minority my friend, we want winners

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

somebody will

its time for a change

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody will?? who then,throw out a name of a guy you think would coach for that ass hat

I understand you bud but,if Marvin goes we get another guy that will coach with Brown tying one hand behind their back

by pilks1075 on Nov 14, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont know who, I dont do the damn hiring but you know good and damn well somebody will

you join WISEKING as another fan being satisfied with being sucky

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

as a D Coord

not a freaking HC, Dick L, won Super Bowls too, Hmmm he was our head coach.. now what?

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

LIKE I SAID BEFORE

I DONT DO THE HIRING, BUT SOMEBODY, ANYBODY IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE. DONE WITH YOU! GRUDEN IS BETTER, COWHER IS BETTER, THERE ARE BETTER COACHES OUT THERE!!!

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Those guys aint coming here so stop throwing the names around.

Anybody is better,Uh ok,how about Dave Shula or um..Bruce Coslet. Jeez.

by pilks1075 on Nov 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

your getting on my nerves

you asked for better option and I pointed them out. seriously man get over it

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

I never said anything about accepting the norm, but moving the franchise on, and Mike Brown IS the GM at the moment. I don’t think changing it all works, because there is a very small chance it will happen. Let’s be realistic.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

really sick of this argument because it really makes no sense

nobody knew who Tomlin was before they hired him, now he is a top notch coach

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

But simultaneously, we don’t have the competency of the Steelers’ FO. Just because they can find a coach from nowhere (probably with many extensive hours of researching data and interviewing) does not mean we can too. In fact, for us, it’d be a stroke of luck.

by Doc Scratch on Nov 14, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

its ok just stick with your opinion

mine is Marvin blows through and through

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said I've approved of Marvin

I don’t really care how it happens, I just want this team to win a damn superbowl. If Marvin can do it, keep him. If he can’t, let him go.

My point is that our FO is miles behind the Steelers FO and that’s why the Steelers can take out-of-nowhere guys and succeed.

by Doc Scratch on Nov 14, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

My point exactly he cant get it done!!

8 years to get us there and he has not done it!! time for a change!!

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree Tenn,

I can’t stand the way he does things. Idiotic as a coach. But I still think he’s a good judge of talent. Poor coach though.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

and I agree the front office is horrible

but you cant say MB doesn’t want to win, he just makes stupid calls sometimes

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He does want to win

But only the way he wants to. He freakin lives in the past and is behind in all aspects of running a NFL franchise. He won’t change…….Period…..

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

We are talking Mike Brown.

I understand what your saying but in Mike Browns eyes (only) he wants to win his way and prove to everyone it will be done that way…..period….. That’s just the way he is.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words

He’s going to show everybody that this square block is going to fit in the round hole no matter what it takes, b/c it will.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and Marvin is good at

getting MB to think that sonones good idea is his own idea. Then it’s a good idea. If you catch what I’m saying.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said "lifetime coach"

…but he is more credible than what went before

I am glad you know the solution for 2011, because as it stands, there is none

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You think Marvin is the answer dont you?

Has not worked for 8 years, another fan satisfied with mediocrity

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Never

I only suggested that he should be GM in 2011 and build from there.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

GM? seriously?

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep...

..by being both reasonable and being realistic

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Funniest thing I heard all day,

Marvin as GM hahahaha

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

No problem. You have Mike Brown as GM as it is. That is more or less funny, but you support the team that accepts that as being a reality (not that any one of use changes that).

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I support my team as you wish for losing teams with Marvin simple as that

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem

But offer solutions, that’s all* (*realistic ones preferred)

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck saying Im satisfied with Mediocrity,The problem is Mike Brown

you want accountability and settling for mediocrity look there.

by pilks1075 on Nov 14, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Brown has made dumb choices

but he isnt out there coaching on Sundays now is he?

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

But as Marvin as GM

Hue Jackson would be here b/c Marvin likes him.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I miss read his post

no I dont, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard, I just wanted Hue as OC

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

No but he is the one that takes responsibility for the product

Dont sign TJ and then offer Coles a big deal…BUST,Then Give AB a big deal…injured doesnt play a down…Bust. Sign TO,yep playing well but only here a year…we still in the same situation. Oh yeah how about sign Palmer to big bucks then let the O-line go down the tubes by letting go Steinbach,have DR Nick misdiagnose Levi and then let Big Willie walk= Biggest investment injuring his elbow causing a whole lot of doubt and questions in Bengaldom.Is that Marvins fault??

DUMB CHOICES….your being too kind

by pilks1075 on Nov 14, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He did sign....

Cedric, TO, Pacman, Roy Williams, guys we love now

"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Many of us hated the thought of Pacman.

Tell me one fan who thought he would’ve really panned out as well as he has thus far.

I’ll thank him for T.O., but considering he’s just a bandaid for a position he can never get right anyway (How hard is it to get two receivers in three years?).

Cedric has had one good year. He’s playing terribly this year.

Roy Williams has been more injured than not.

So yes, we love these guys, but none of them are long-term fixes except Ced and possibly Pacman. Even the idiots can get a few right on a multiple choice test.

by Doc Scratch on Nov 14, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

TO on a cheap deal coz he fucked up the day he didnt resign TJ

for the 3rd straight off season we dont have an established no 2 in our system…genuis,Cedric…who is also likely a goner next season,Mike wont resign him against some of the bigger offfers he will get. He aint getting a pass on these

by pilks1075 on Nov 14, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

TJ washed up anyway

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

na

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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche

by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh

Yeh, that, just that. Really kinda how I feel at the moment. I’ll bet the Bengals lose to the Bills by six points too, that seems to be a recurring theme.

by Doc Scratch on Nov 14, 2010 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Are you talking about the fans "Theme"

B/c in MBs eyes we were in the game till the final seconds. Very competitive!

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Really impressed with you're guys' corners and LBs

Hall and Joseph took Wayne and Garçon away, the LBs were all over the run and the Colts didn’t have anything else for Peyton to throw to.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov

by shake n bake on Nov 14, 2010 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

ok, yeah Tamme

I forget about him some because he’s obviously not Clark. Still, he didn’t do much late.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Nov 14, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton completed 55% of his passes for under 6 YPA

you can’t expect much more from a pass D than that.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Nov 14, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, how about props to your corners and run D?

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Nov 14, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

and I should have known that after I made jokes about the Bengals pass rush that Diem would get bitchmade

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Nov 14, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ironically enough, that's the best we've seen out of our rush all season.

Usually it’s beyond terrible, so the fact that it took down one of the hardest QBs to take care if is amazing.

Prior to today, all of us would’ve agreed with you for making jokes about our passrush. Hell, some would’ve joined right in with you.

by Doc Scratch on Nov 14, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

After "recovering" the onside kick I thought This is it....

After 23 years I should have known better,I cant stand this shit. Fuck this shit.
Oh and I dont think getting rid of Marvin does anything but set us back to the dark ages,anybody quoting Cowher,Gruden as possible coaches knows nothing about this organisation.

Jake is correct in his comment we have now beaten ourselves 6 times this year,and yes there needs to be accountability;when did Gresham actually get in this game,he didnt look part of Bob"Gresh is a FB"Bratretards gameplan. I am pissed he fumbled but he was fighting for the 1st down. As for Palmer,his pick on the pass to Jermaine was terrible but lets get it straight the other 2 were most definately on TO.

by pilks1075 on Nov 14, 2010 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

No those picks were on Palmer

You’re absolutely wrong, if you think TO was the problem. Carson was sailing balls all day. The announcers kept on raving about Chads acrobatic catches. Which means Carson couldn’t throw a decent ball.

by sgiridharan1982 on Nov 14, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

6 in a row by one score. amazing.

We can’t run. We have the worst game management in the NFL. We suck.
Owens or OCHO whoever was walking back to the line at the end of the game is a horrible human. I couldnt see because I broke my glasses after Gresham fumble. This team is the worst thing that has happened to us since George W. Bush.

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by bengals life on Nov 14, 2010 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

it was Owens

I really think he gave up.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Nov 14, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he went into disengage mode after running the wrong route on Carson's first pick.

Somebody blamed him so he was done. So annoying.

How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?

by Grizzlyfox on Nov 14, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Chad was killin it today.

That man came to play. Even with a bum shoulder he was giving it everything he had.

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by coltsfan723 on Nov 14, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

After that piss match

between him and Palmer last week, I didn’t expect him to show up like that though.

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by coltsfan723 on Nov 14, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Marvin

For GM? your kidding me…. Never seen a coach throw more red flags and waste more timeouts…. He is clueless…..

by CINCY1CATS on Nov 14, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

He wouldn't be doing that.

Hell he wouldn’t be on the field. He’d be sitting in box seats watching a good coach do his damn job….
Marvins job would be to scout and bring in coaches. Make sure the team has what it needs to succeed. Something Mike Brown doesn’t do. Like a practice bubble, scouts and better Doctors.

by WHYUS!! on Nov 14, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

they do need the indoor bubble

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

They need to be competitive

- Indoor
- Outdoor
- Scouting

..one person is asking, one person can block it. Let’s see.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Im leaving with this

Marvin must go whether you like it or not don’t care who we bring in its time for a freaking change, He can manage a game or timeouts or challenges, cant get his team motivated.
I also think Palmer must go, and so for you Palmer and Marvin apologists that are satisfied with 0 playoff wins in there 8 years together keep on rooting for your 8-8 seasons as I root for Super Bowls!! Have a nice day and watch the freaking game you might learn something.

Zimmer for head coach!!!!!!!

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

he cant manage games

typo

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you on most points

But Zimmer shouldnt be our headcoach. His defense and his ability to game plan has been very lackluster. The drop off from last year has been huge.

by sgiridharan1982 on Nov 14, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We want to be competitive...Mike Browns words not mine

Sadly Mike,The rest of the NFL doesnt want to compete they want to WIN!!! there is a difference,run with that theme and we might go somewhere.

by pilks1075 on Nov 14, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

But he can manage typos ;-)

Fair enough. It’s up to MB to make the call in the end.

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Well, turns out after another tweet that all TO meant was that he skipped some kind of team function Saturday night,

or so it seems. Trying to say it’s not his fault he lost b/c he didn’t check in last night, I think.

How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?

by Grizzlyfox on Nov 14, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently he also tweeted

something to the notion of “it’s my fault no matter what team I’m on, every loss is my fault” or some jazz like that. I was really starting to actually like the guy too

by TheCinWin on Nov 15, 2010 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

John Kitna is slicing up the Giants...

its a sad season when the Bengals make you long for the Kitna era…

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by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

Hell Fitz is having a better season

not record wise but he is

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by TennBengalfan on Nov 14, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Nuge is hurt, looks bad...

bring on Dave Raynor?

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by TarZander on Nov 14, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

The most important thing is getting

rid of Mike Brown and getting some friggin talent scouts who actually know talent.
They have like one person in the Bengals “scouting department” who isn’t a close personal friend or family member of Mike Brown.

Until Mike Brown hires a GM and some scouts PAUL BROWN STADIUM SHOULD BE EMPTY. Period. Don’t enable a bad product. It’s like intentionally purchasing tainted meat.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Nov 14, 2010 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

Bengals 2011 (continued)

GM : Marvin Lewis
Head coach: Mike Zimmer
OC: TBD
DC: TBD
QB: Carson Palmer
WR: Owens, Johnson, Shipley
TE: Gresham
RB: First round draft pick

by wiseking on Nov 14, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

You must already work in the Bengals front office. If something doesn’t work, don’t bother with fresh blood. Move some of the broken parts around and expect a different result. Promoting Lewis and Zimmer with a new tailback doesn’t even scratch the surface when it comes to fixing this team. BAD.

by bodacio zk on Nov 14, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

one more then i'm done for the day

headsup to sevenrings for inspiring it

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by palewook on Nov 14, 2010 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

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