NFL Open Thread: Bengals Are Off, But The NFL Keeps On Truckin'
by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 28, 2010 11:15 AM EST
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PrintThis season has been bad, compared to last year. Last year, I always looked forward to Sundays, watching our boys inch ever so closer to another playoff berth. Waking up early in the morning, no matter how much sleep I got, my mind was racing and my heart pumping. Sundays last year were great.
This year, it's a different story. I still enjoy waking up and watching the Bengals on Sunday. It's great having an NFL team in our city to root for, something many other cities can't, nor ever will, have. Yes, yes. Mike Brown. Losing. It all sucks. But they are our team and loyalty to our team is a virtue that we hold a monopoly on in the NFL. True, Bengals fans have different perspectives and approaches. Yet, at the end of the day, we're simple folk who enjoy our simple little team the best way we can.
On the other hand, to be able to sit back and watch NFL games that I have no emotion investment on, is nice this week. Which games are you looking forward to? Who is your backup team, if you have one?
This is a Sunday open thread for Sunday's slate of NFL games. Chit. And chat. Monitor and update division rivals. Let us know how the best games are going.
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I'm watching the Panthers-Browns game today.
GO PANTHERS! GIVE US THE #1 PICK!!!
Win a ring without the king! Cavs=2011 champs?
I try to root for the Colts, though it just doesn't feel the same
and in terms of other games, I can only really root against teams or occasional for/against certain players. For example, I love to root against the rest of the AFCN (of course), any team from NY, Oakland, and Dallas. Though, now I am slightly conflicted because I always liked Jon Kitna (as a man) so I’ve been trying to root for him to do well in Dallas with Romo out.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
I love Kitna.
I met him a few times and he’s the most humble guy you’ll ever meet.
Also, my brother used to work at a Red Robin and he’d come in every once in a while with his kids. He’d leave a $60 tip every time.
Win a ring without the king! Cavs=2011 champs?
I loved when he'd refuse to wear the NFL apparel hats
and go with the generic crucifix hat, despite taking fines.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Kitna
I also like Kitna. One reason is he played for the Bengals and another reason is he seems like a nice guy. I kinda like the Cowboys too so go Kitna and the Cowboys!
T'was the only reason my dad was rooting for Dallas on Thursday.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
Saw parts of that Bengals replay on NFL Network last night.
Big note: Brat is the replay man. Brat believed that it hit Caldwell in real time. As the play was developing, he was yelling at Caldwell to go pick it up. Did he watch a replay? Who knows, but he believed that it hit him in real time.
As for Caldwell, he tweeted yesterday that it did not hit him.
Loved the part where Chad and TO ripped on Pettrey w/ each other after the miss. Course, that also probably shows the big divide on this team. You got a bunch of groups, rather than a cohesive unit.
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
Bengals Bengals Bengals
Im a die hard Bengals fan. No matter how bad they are doing i still root for them. I dont really have a back up team, but i do like cheering for the Pack.
Schadenfreude
this season, I’m reduced to enjoying the suffering of others – namely Steelers and Ravens fans. I would almost prefer watching a Steelers or Ravens loss than a Bengals win at this point. Living in DC, where Steeler and Raven fans infest the area like herpetic sores on a street prostitute (or Big Ben’s mouth), I don’t think I could take either of those teams winning the Super Bowl.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
by TarZander on Nov 28, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Steeler and Raven fans infest the area like herpetic sores on a street prostitute
Now that is quality writing.
by GrizzlyRider on Nov 28, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the parentheses made it great.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
I got the Falcons today.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
What game is everyone watching?
I’m watching the Panthers and the Browns. Draft positioning is important.
Win a ring without the king! Cavs=2011 champs?
So they announced the Hall of Fame semi-finalists.
Kenny Anderson isn’t here, but Art Modell is. Full list:
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
And now you know why they have the number one pick!
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
Johnathan Stewart with the single shittiest blitz pick up I've ever seen.
Win a ring without the king! Cavs=2011 champs?
Worse than some of Benson's?
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
The Panthers deserve the first overall.
They’re even worse than us.
Win a ring without the king! Cavs=2011 champs?
Ugh
Sports media will do massive amounts of terrible puns soon enough without you beating them to the PUNch.
by Alex Marshall on Nov 28, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, Panthers almost winning.
12 seconds left, in field goal range.
Buffalo almost going to win too, but who knows with that one.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
Houston shut out Tennessee, that is ridiculous.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
So, I'm so irrate right now after watching the Bills blow an OT game to Pittsburgh
Fitzpatrick is tearing it up, but unfortunately can’t overcome dropped passes by his guys. I am becoming more and more convinced the most valuable recievers are guys who can simply run correct routes and catch balls.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
W/ hindsight, it's easy to say we highly overrated our receiving core this year.
Look back to the Henry (deep threat), Housh (excellent hands/routes), Ocho (playmaker) trio. Worked amazingly well.
This year: 2 guys that run questionable routes and have questionable hands (TO, Ocho), and two rookies that could become very good at both (Gresham, Shipley) but just aren’t there yet, and a giant turd (Caldwell).
Sure Ocho and TO are great playmakers, and Gresham and Shipley have looked like they are going to be good, productive, NFL players, but where’s the consistency? Having 2 guys that are inconsistent by nature (TO, Ocho) and 2 that are inconsistent by experience (Shipley, Gresham), is probably a pretty good formula for an excessive fail. Turns out, it was.
This takes nothing away however from the inconsistent play of Palmer, the lack of consistency in the running game, and the on again off again play from the O-line.
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
I'd say it has more to do with the inconsistent o-line play and Palmer's sporadic passing
but, you raise a good point with Chad/TO’s dropped passes & bad route running (though the latter is tough to determine whether it is on them or Palmer). When I look across the league and see less talented recievers succeeding with teams like NE and Indy, it’s obvious they are who really count. Just look at NE letting Randy Moss go in favor of the more dependable no-name recievers. I think we should look to the 4-7 rounds to pick up some more Shipley/Housh type recievers.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Keeping on that line of thought,
could it be questioned that some of Palmer’s locking onto guys this season is be b/c our gifted OC has been running designed plays in which 2 guys are decoys who just run way out of the way to take away defenders, a third receiver is a safety valve and the other is the main target? This would I guess sort of make sense, gotta get your playmakers the ball somehow.
Unless if Palmer truly just sucks (which he might) this seems to make some sense, I think.
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
I just watch the NFL soundfx replay of the game, aired Saturday night.
They happened to show the play of both Carson picks and the coaches (Brat included) reactions.
The pick that Carson threw into the endzone was a designed play and Gresham was supposed to run a 15 yard out route. But was bumped and ran into by a LB in his route. He was able to get open but it was a designed timing play so Carson didn’t wait to see if Gresham was going to get open. He forced it into the endzone when all he had to do is wait. Brat made it seem that it was Carson’s and Gresham’s fault. Carson’s fault b/c of a bad decision and Gresham’s fault for running into the LB. Brat said " he should have avoided the contact with the LB.
I think that Brat wants these guys to play like robots. With being stuck strictly on timing plays, it will get you the results you have with the above play. If the other team knows what play your running, they are going to try and disrupt the routes like they did with Gresham. The players are thinking way to much on the field and not playing football. They are trying to be too perfect as to the coaches instructions to why they are not playing good football. They are playing roboticball and one inconsistent maneuver that wasn’t practiced, throws the rhythm off. It’s like playing the arcade game “TRON” back in the day.
BTW, they (the coaches) were talking about Chad doing the same thing. Allowing himself to be bumped off of the timing.
I am going to say this again. Most of the best plays that happen are not practiced, they are b/c of talent and just knowing how to play football. Not asking the players to be robots.
The defense is doing this too. See Zimmers remarks after the Patrioits game. He said " he had them thinking to much".
is there a way to view that online?
I’d love to see that and I know ATDHE.net sometimes has NFL network on.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
I don't know, but I'll check around.
It’s a must see though. It explains a little of what’s going on. Not all but some.
I've looked and I don't think it will be replayed anytime soon. We'll have to keep searching into the future.
Although I can’t really find anything on the computer either. I know some Jets fans are eager to see it also. We’ll have to keep checking. Although I do have it recorded on DVR, I wish there was some way to download it and share it with everyone, b/c it is a must see. Sorrry!
haha, no worries
if you do find a way, I’d appreciate it if you let us know through a fanshot or something. thanks
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
I didn't see much of it, but I loved the Bratkowski replay nonsense.
He seems like a guy that gets anchored to his original idea. Thus, what he believes he sees on the field is what he is going to see on the replay. During the punt he immediately thought it hit Caldwell, and that appeared to be that.
Moreover, I can’t believe that they rely on a guy that heavily involved in the game to make replay decisions. Stupid.
Also the reason why they go so slow at times and have trouble getting the play off. When they went for it on fourth down, he seemed down right angry that they were going for it. He was bumbling along, rather than getting a play ready just in case, he was waiting to conform w/ Marvin that they were going for it. Can’t remember if this is true, but I believe he sighed or wearily put rubbed his hand on his forehead or something when Marvin said they were going for it.
Lo and behold, play wasn’t in quick enough, had to call a time out. IT’S TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE!
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
now I definitely need to watch this
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
some f'ing confidence there
the OC should always assume they are going for it.
Hell, he should always have plays that he knows his guys can do. He should always WANT to go for it and sigh when they don’t.
CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.
Hmm..
Scratch what I said about drafting Luck (though I do want us to look into prospects next year). Having Palmer off the books is really gonna help us keep Joseph and Hall, but I gotta say, I really want to see what Palmer looks like with a competent OC in the booth and see if Palmer’s issues are really just the extent of Bratkowski’s madness.
Robotic perfection. That’s insane.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
by Doc Scratch on Nov 28, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like we're not going to get LUCKy in the next draft...
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
would the Panthers draft another QB after drafting two last year
in Clausen and Pike?
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
First of all, Pike is garbage.
They’d have no problem parting with him.
The general consensus among Panthers fans (except a few) seems to be that they would love to draft Luck, see which one is going to be the franchise guy, and trade the other.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
But who the dick would actually have that much inexperience on the team?
That’s begging for failure.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
Miami Herald beat writer reporting GRUDEN will take head gig at The U.
Weird. I don’t believe it. He says he’s trying to conform it, but Miami? I dunno, guess it does fit Gruden’s persona.
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
I imagined that Gruden would want to return to the NFL...
But Miami is a pretty nice gig. I can see why he would want to take it.
I just wish MB had called him up earlier about filling the vacancy to see what he thought. Hell, maybe he did and it wasn’t publicized.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
Well, rumors just be rumors. Peter King reporting Gruden not going to Miami. Although not sure if this is fact or opinion.
How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?
Manning getting walloped
interesting how terrible a qb can look when his OL goes to pot
CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.
yea, that was ugly
4 interceptions
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Now Ratbirds fans will start comparing Flacco to Manning even more.
Sigh.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
by Doc Scratch on Nov 28, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Well, they actually have a legitimate basis for comparison. Each QB threw four INTs in one game this season.
Other than that, not much difference between them… /sarcasm
Put an @ symbol at the start and end of the line. Like so (but without the …):
…@ sarcastic stuff here@…
One warning, it won’t word-wrap, and the background takes extra space. So if you have a lot of sarcastic stuff to stay you’ll have to put in your own hard returns and space things out with TWO hard returns to get everything to show up. Like this:
The Steelers are awesome! They are such a great team that they can toy with another team
for over 40 minutes and still find a way to win the game!
Giving it a try.
sure, I now know how to do sarcasm
extra sarcasm line with new at symbol
and now with a hard line break
CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.
oops didn't like something
@okay, now just with just a blah blah
halb halb extra line break@
CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.
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okay, now just with just a blah blah
halb halb extra line break
CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.
dude, lay off the drugs
j/k
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
I like The Bears and Michael Vick
I’ll root for Da Bears and I like Michael Vick because he is a great QB. Sometimes I root for the Browns too, they are an ohio team and i like peyton Hillis and Colt Mccoy, but I dont root for them when the Bengals may make the playoffs but they arent this year. I would rather the Browns make it to the playoffs then the Steelers or Baltimore.
I guess my backup team is the Colts
Although I didn’t even actually watch football this weekend. I was just too busy. I caught part of the Bengals game on 700 on my way back home. I think a lot of people(coaches and players alike) are going to be finding a new home after this season.
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