The Monday Touchdown: Bengals Serve Up a Lame Duck on Thanksgiving
I can't pretend to say that I expected the Bengals to beat the Jets on Thanksgiving because I didn't. The Bengals did do to me what they've done all season long though, give me a feeling of hope that maybe, just maybe, they'll pull out the win. But, once again, the Bengals took that hope, molded it into the shape of a baseball bat -- a hopebat -- and then proceeded to beat the hell out of me with it.
No wonder I'm waking up sore on Mondays.
Instead of seven things that I liked or seven things that I disliked, this week I'm going to try something new. I'm going to simply state seven things that I know. Here goes.
Thing I know one: Carson Palmer is not Carson Palmer
I may be really late to the table on this one. I've given the guy the benefit of the doubt over the past couple seasons and was blaming everything and everybody around him but I didn't really blame Palmer. But when I watched Palmer throw that deep pass to Terrell Owens, who was surrounded by three defenders in the end zone, and then watched the pass fall about five or six yards short and end up in the arms of a Jets defender it was finally clear to me that something very seriously was wrong -- physically, mentally or both. It may have been one of the worst decisions/worst passes that I have seen Palmer make/throw all season long. I'm not jumping off the CP bandwagon or jumping on the IHCP (I hate Carson Palmer) bandwagon. I'm just simply acknowledging that something is obviously wrong with him. I hope it can be fixed.
Thing I know two: Jordan Shipley is the future of the Bengals
He's short, he plays guitar, he catches passes, your girlfriend/wife loves him, he's Jordan Shipley. He's in the right place at the right time, he catches passes in traffic and he has an extra gear when he catches the ball in space. Not only is he talented as hell, he's smart -- and it shows. Terrell Owens will likely be showcasing his talents in another city next year and if Chad Ochocinco returns to the Bengals next year, he's in the last years of his career. Shipley is the only receiver on the roster who gives me hope for the future.
Thing I know three: Jermaine Gresham has the ability to become an elite tight end
There never has been any question about his physical ability. Gresham possesses that rare combination of size, speed and agility that every coach wishes his tight end had. He can stretch the field, he can catch passes in traffic, he can turn tight end screen passes into 50-yard touchdowns -- he can do it all. Blocking is the only thing that he's not awesome at right now but that will come. Blocking is probably the toughest thing for a rookie tight end to learn how to do. When, not if -- when, Gresham becomes a better blocker, he'll be the complete package and by complete package, I mean Dallas Clark package. I'm not joking.
Also, remember that Reggie Kelly might be one of the best, if not the best, blocking tight ends in the NFL. Gresham couldn't learn the ropes from a better guy.
Thing I know four: I have no clue what I want the Bengals to do in the draft
Should the Bengals draft a quarterback and create some sort of Aaron Rodgers - Brett Favre situation? Should they go after a running back to replace Cedric Benson? Should they draft a new No. 1 wide receiver first? Should they trade away their top-five pick to receive as many draft picks as possible to fill the inevitable holes in the depth chart? I JUST DON'T KNOW!
I guess this shouldn't really count as something I know.... oh well.
Thing I know five: The difference between '09 and '10 is largely the bounce of the ball
There are a million differences. The defense was good last year while I'm fairly sure that they were all kidnapped by aliens in the off season and what we see now is actually just 11 pod-people. Unfortunately, these aliens come from a world where soccer is the only football (I just called down the wrath of every soccer fan in Cincinnati). The offense has also changed their game plan from Cedric Benson to a lot more passing with a little Benson peppered in. Obviously it hasn't worked as well as they had hoped it would.
Last year, the Bengals found themselves late in games down by a few points. Somehow, they managed to move the ball down the field and score winning touchdowns with less talent on the field and the same offensive line. What happened between then and now?
The ball just isn't bouncing their way this year. You can only get lucky so many times.
Thing I know six: The Bengals must be able to regenerate their toes
With all of the shooting of their own feet, it is amazing that the Bengals can even walk let alone play football. They must have a Wolverine type of power that allows them to grow their toes back when they shoot them off. And shooting them off is about the only thing the Bengals have been really good at this season. They had the ability to win most of the games that they played but, when push came to shove, they ended up throwing interceptions, fumbling the ball, dropping passes, missing tackles, calling bad plays, all of which qualifies as shooting themselves in the foot.
One more thing I know: No matter how much they hurt me,
I'm going to keep coming back. I'll pay out the nose for season tickets next year and I'll continue to write about the team that has done nothing but let me down this season. I'd be willing to bet that you will probably be here reading and commenting too. It just means that we both enjoy the pain and the Bengals seem to enjoy inflicting it. It's like a scene right out of Pulp Fiction involving Zed and the Gimp, only weirder.
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Well Said
What fun are the good times if you werent there for the bad times? I know our history better than most, but the this league REALLY IS set up for teams to make quick turnarounds. Kepp the faith. WHO DEY BABY
by CincyBengals4life on Nov 29, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions
It’s really set for teams to make quick turnarounds… yes. But for them to actually accomplish more than a one year flash in the pan, you can’t just take advantage of luck or a weak schedule. You need a plan.
You need a GM, or at least a professional-quality scouting department. You need an OC of at least above-average quality and ability. Whatever Brat actually is, he’s definitely not “above average”. You need a good DC. Not sure if we have that or not at the moment. You need somebody who can install a winning culture in some fashion or another, who can make the team believe they can win and hold accountable any bad apples. Marvin has — or at least had — the first part but he doesn’t have the second. And then you need to draft well, with a plan that you can stick to and build a team by design from the inside-out.
After you have all that, then you just need to get a bit lucky and you have a shot at winning a Super Bowl or two. But unfortunately we don’t have anywhere near “all that” and I don’t see much of any chance of us getting it soon until/unless Mikey steps down or otherwise is no longer in charge.
by FriarBob on Nov 30, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm more in the company
Of people who want to publicly embarrass Mike Brown like he has done to us the last 20 years. I think he should have constant reminders everywhere he looks at how dissatisfied we are as a fan base.
and as a community. He should constantly be reminded of how much the county has invested in his crappy product and how that crappy product is a direct reflection of his performance as a GM/Owner of the franchise.
by JamesShively on Nov 29, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Ah...more baseless Reggie Kelly love
Take a few things into consideration:
1. Year Reggie Kelly doesn’t play….team runs ball better than they have in years.
2. Year Reggie Kelly doesn’t play….team chemistry better than it has been in years.
Not to make the absurd statement that the return of Reggie Kelly has destroyed team chemistry and the running game, but if both areas were better without a guy whose calling card is blocking and leadership, what the hell is the benefit?
Kind of sad who we rank in the pantheon of Bengal greats, but I guess there isn’t much to choose from.
I...find it odd you blame Reggie Kelly for all of this.
If you’re going to use scapegoats, at least use mildly sensible ones. Please.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
by Doc Scratch on Nov 29, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
like no fullback
Reggie Kelly is one of the best blocking TE’s in the league…not one of the best blocking FB’s in the league…..and he’s one of the most respected players on the team (from the players’ standpoint, not fans)
Ironic thing
In an article posted today on this site they rate Kelly’s run blocking equal to Gresham’s run blocking. His reputation is masking the truth about this year. He’s average at best at blocking in running situations.
"One more thing I know: No matter how much they hurt me,I'm going to keep coming back"
If bratkowski comes back next year I am done. Refuse to cheer for incompetence any longer!
your "one more thing" point is so true
For here all are one
maybe carson should try throwing left handed....
Seeing carson throw the ball the way he has hurts like watching someone you care about slowly fade away into the depths of mediocrity. I just did this bobby bowden, now carsonoma? The guy has brought me so many smiles, ill take a few frowns, and I’m gonna be on
team carson till he doesn’t wear our uni any longer.
Here is my thinking… Carson is now a family man. He is wealthy and is set for life. Does he still LOVE football? Does he put in the endless hours like he did when he was 25? Maybe the “let it heal” approach to his elbow from our highly touted medical staff was the wrong path to take. His problems aren’t just physical or only mental.
Or maybe, just maybe lavernious coles was just that good…. Nah, couldn’t have been that, could it?
by Oxailis on Nov 30, 2010 12:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Thing I know
This offense was better with a true fullback.
"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski
Carson is fine physically, it's completely a mental issue.
And at this point, I think it’s more an ATTITUDE issue than anything else. He doesn’t care about winning here. He’s spent his entire career in an environment that really doesn’t seem to concern itself too much with winning. He had his youthful competitiveness to fuel him in his early years, now when he starts seeing his protection break down he just says “F it…tossing this one up there. Who cares if it gets picked off? I’m not getting another injury for this team.” He knows he’s gone as far as he’s going to here and it shows.
But I’m also amazed at how much Ken Zampese is let off the hook in the entire conversation. Yes, coming up under the tutelage of Bob Bratkowski is not exactly ideal for a quarterback, but everyone fell in love with Zampese because of Carson’s first few seasons but NO ONE blames him now for how ill-prepared, skittish, and often times outright DUMB Carson looks on the field. Add in that he has no one pushing him in the QB room except for baby bro who is more concerned about selling iPhone apps and I totally have a picture of a unit that just doesn’t care from top to bottom. Any other organization would jettison the entire staff.
I think it's physical
You could tell from the sound fx that he’s one of the guys that actually cares, but he needs surgery on that elbow or something. I’m going to be a cp fan forever but that “punt” throw he did was literally the worst throw I’ve seen a pro QB make in my life.
by Throw the ball on Nov 30, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Peter King said...
yes, I know I just said “peter king said” which is heresy, but on his article he stated that Carson has field vision of a rookie this year, then pointed out the triple coverage pass in the end zone.
Goes to show you sometimes the blind can see. Carson will be in Oakland next year.
That throw was horrendous.
But more than anything it was a bad decision. In fact just about every one of his picks this year hasn’t been from a slightly mis-thrown pass that could be blamed on a shoulder or elbow problem, they almost ALL have been just stupid throws into obvious coverage. No QB in the history of the sport was going to make that pass to a triple-covered TO in the back of the endzone.
A QB with serious lingering injury issues in multiple parts of his body doesn’t go back and forth from looking great to looking inept. When he feels like it, Carson has shown he’s perfectly capable of making every throw. He just doesn’t know or care when to make the good ones anymore.

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