Daily Banter: Could Bengals Sign New Place Kicker Tuesday?

by Josh Kirkendall on Nov 30, 2010 10:53 AM EST in Analysis

We haven't really had a Daily Banter all season, and since today's the team's off day, let's go through some things.

+ COULD THERE BE A NEW KICKER? You can assume that the team might be working out place kickers on Tuesday, with two possibilities being Jeff Reed and Kris Brown. The Bengals reached out to Reed after the Steelers released him about two weeks ago and Geoff Hobson conjectured that the Bengals could ask about Kris Brown. This comes on the heels of two missed field goals in four opportunities, including a 27-yard chip shot that would have tied the game against the New York Jets late in the third quarter.

None of this means that either will be signed. Aaron Pettrey very well could resume his kicking duties against the New Orleans Saints this weekend -- it's not like anyone is going to watch it anyway. At the same time, don't be surprised if the Bengals sign a new kick (Reed, Brown or someone else), before this weekend's game.

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+ PFF ANALYSIS ON BENGALS LOSS. I've always liked Pro Football Focus. Much like Football Outsiders, they take a detailed analysis of games and players, accounting the role of players with more than just raw statistics. Sam Monson examines the Bengals loss to the New York Jets.

We’ll start with the good news from the Bengals’ performance, because there isn’t much of it. Once again, left tackle Andrew Whitworth (+3.5)had a fine game, keeping Palmer completely clean in pass protection and making a couple of plays blocking out in front of screen plays. Whitworth really is an extremely solid player, and is clearly the Bengals’ best lineman in 2010...

With the Bengals starting to get some productivity out of DE Carlos Dunlap (+0.8), it’s difficult to see the argument for persisting in starting Robert Geathers (-3.1). Geathers has never been a pass-rushing demon, and he generated not a single pressure on his 26 rushes in this game, but he has started to fade badly against the run. He couldn’t set the edge during this game, being folded into the line by tight ends as well as Damien Woody.

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Reading Thorton's responses to people's comments on his blog.

Interesting one about Lewis leaving and who takes over for him:

Well he won’t leave unless he has to. I think this is his first choice. I wouldn’t believe rumors because that’s part of the negotiations. People leak things on purpose. But I would think Marv will have something solid lined up elsewhere if he chooses to walk away.
Not sure about next coach. I think Zimm would be cool. But he would want to change the whole staff. That’s where the prob could come in with the Brown family. So it will be interesting.

Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"

by Doc Scratch on Nov 30, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions

Thinking about it, I wouldn't mind if Zimmer and Lewis switched jobs.

Lewis is obviously one hell of a schemer and Zimmer is more of the motivation guy and would get that over on the offense now. A bit of role reversal could be insanely good.

And if Mike Brown thinks he can walk away with all the control in this, I think Zimmer would be the type of guy to walk right upstairs and spew long strings of profanities at him until he eventually listened. Considering his thoughts on Bobby Petrino…

Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"

by Doc Scratch on Nov 30, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions

there's no way in Hell Marvin would accept a demotion on the Bengals

but, it would be cool to see it happen, hypothetically that is.

Reading Thorton’s evals on the DT’s has me getting a little excited about the possibility of going there in the first. Hopefully Dunlap pans out and can start with Fanene so we can bulk up in the middle. Beyond run-stopping, with a stud DT getting penetration, that should have 2nd order effects in the pass rush as well.

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by Blue Steel on Nov 30, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions

I agree, not to many HC would accept a demotion within their current team

But I’d love to see him at DC with Zimmer at HC. It would help keep unity in the locker room and help Zimmer as he adjusts to being a HC.

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by Topher Doll on Nov 30, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions

Why in the (&)^ would anybody that was a fan or associated this team want any kind of continued unity?

If it’s broke, fix it. Don’t fix the dam w/ duct tape.

How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?

by Grizzlyfox on Nov 30, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions

Um I think you are very mistaken

Teams need to be unified, that’s not what needs to be changed. Unity is what establishes success, while we aren’t winning and changes need to be made, I’d love to see that last long successful team that liked to shake it up every 2-3 seasons.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Nov 30, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions

I guess I'm just confused as to where you see unity.

Sure, the proposition that unity establishes success is fine. Where there is no unity, you cannot continue it. And trying to establish it by juggling around the same people in the organization seems like an exercise in futility.

How will Chris Carpenter explain this to his children?

by Grizzlyfox on Nov 30, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions