Postgame Open Thread: Pittsburgh Steelers 27 (6-2) at Cincinnati Bengals 21 (2-6)
by jsl413 on Nov 8, 2010 11:51 PM EST
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PrintThe Bengals tried and they tried. The usually reliable Mike Nugent and Jeff Reed missed kicks left and left and left. When it was said and done, the game came down to mistakes leading to points. All 27 Steeler points came after either a turnover, a blocked punt, or a missed field goal. The Bengals scored 14 off turnovers, and the decisive touchdown off of a missed field goal. They overcame the usual suspects (turnovers, penalties) on this night and overcame a 20-point Steeler lead - the first time that's ever been done - and won a game I never thought they would. I wrote that last sentence at 11:42 EDT. That's how confident I was at 11:42. I'm going to leave it in the post-game thread, even if I'm wrong. What an ending!
What really happened? Chad caught a 15 yard pass on 2nd and 20. On 3rd and 5, Carson Palmer overthrew Owens, and it was time for the decisive play of the game. Will Jake eat his words? They go against everything he thought going into the game. He will. The Bengals couldn't close it out as rookie Jordan Shipley dropped the should-have-been-4th-down-conversion. Ballgame.
The Bengals had my heart pumping and my mouth dry and they had a chance to win. But as has been the story all year, the Bengals beat themselves. They played a clean game but didn't overcome the final holding penalty. They couldn't overcome early turnovers and missed field goals and a block punt. Plenty of blame to go around, but plenty of praise too. Terrell Owens played a hell of a game. Carson Palmer only made one mistake - and it was a bad one. Bernard Scott's fumble was a dagger, and so was Jordan Shipley's drop.
At 2-6, the playoffs are no longer a possibility, but this team showed some heart tonight. 6 losses and a -23 point differential. Trent Dilfer summarized the season in a nutshell: the Bengals have dug themselves holes all year they can't get out of. They clawed their way out of their 6-foot grave tonight, but suffocated before they got to oxygen. I'm afraid the same will be true of the season.
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heh
that pretty much sums up the season. we’re 7 – 1 this season in games where we don’t force the other team to take the win. we’re like the over polite gophers from the warner bros cartoons.
“nonono, you must leave without a win.”
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
by palewook on Nov 9, 2010 6:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so sick of being a Bengals fan.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
I Wished We Had Got Blowed Out
if we couldnt win it,Ias like some w that posted earlier,now Marvin Lewis will say,we are still in it,we played good and bad,we’ll work on it next week to get it right,blah,blah,blah,same ol crap he says every week when we lose,just tired of it,its like the nightmare 90’s,you would get all excited about all the hype,then you leave to heave,same crap,cant wait till next year when Marvin Lewis and staff goes bye bye,Im just tired of the crap guys..sheww had to vent!!
if we're going to lose to the steelers
be glad they couldn’t beat us, be glad that we had to give the game to the steelers. the steelers didn’t win last night. we lost. almost any other team in the nfl, playing the game cincy played last night, would have found a way to win (or not give the game away, repeatedly.)
as much as the steelers fans want to claim they owned us or how great the steelers are, would have to drink deeply of the kool-aid.
and its not like the 90s. in the 90s this team was never in games, never competitive.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I feel so sorry for T.O.
Being saddled with this team when he’s having a historically great year.
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I swear, if Marvin preaches fundamentals and execution one more gogdamn time, I'm starting a petition to Mike Brown to fire him and bring Gruden in.
When you preach it as often as you breath and yet your players REPEATEDLY fail to do this, it very obviously says things about your head coaching ability. It very obviously says you are not a good coach. Get him out of here. I want Gruden, whom I heard praising us all night for any reason he could find.
Also, goat of this game is very easily special teams.
From two missed field goals to a blocked punt to a kr fumble, you can’t tell me that’s not the reason why we lost.
Very tough loss
…but you just can’t cough up points on special teams the way they did tonight and expect to win. They handed the Steelers 10 easy points early and then whiffed on two FGs for good measure. Really it’s amazing the game was a close as it was, which is a testament to the heart the team showed in the second half. Unfortunately, that heart a couple bucks will get you a cuppa coffee and a jelly donut at Dunkins…
where is this at the start of the game. It baffles the mind how in a must win we come out flat. Everyone is to blame in this game. Palmer showed up in the 4th but where was the rest of the game. Chad again a non factor, I don’t see any passion from him early. ST with the block and fumble set a tone early that they were not focused.
Coaches have to prepare better and players have to exacute better early. Be pros, because we could have had this game.
Saw T.O. yelling at Carson after his int.
It made me feel good, I like the fire I saw, though there were for once a lot of things I like. Andre played a really good game as well, I think Dunlap was starting and the Bengals even came out in the no-huddle.
that was great
As much as I love Chad, he doesn’t look like someone with football as priority.
by LABengalsfan on Nov 9, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
must have missed that, but would have loved to see it
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Something Needs Done To Shake this Team Up
as much as you wished it,nothing will be done,we will get “work on it till we get it right” BS speech,but its time for change,I dont care if its giving the waterboy an atomic wedgey,do something!
This is the worst thing in my mind that could have haoppened
Marvin proves that he’s competitive enough to hold onto his job for th remainder of the year instead of just bring9ing in someone like Gruden RIGHT NOW to get situated with the team and start preparing them for next year.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
it was brought up several times in earlier threads
if he barely loses,Marvin sticks around,if hes blowed out,we get another coach by nightfall,if he wins,we still have hopes for the playoffs,and as a diehard Bengal fan,we get the worse option,he barely loses,and says we will fix it to get better next week speech,it makes you sick as a dog,but you been thru the 90’s and have thick stomach,see you guys next week,same ol crap,just a different day.
ughhh
I hate you because you point out the hard truth….. when will this end? Wjhy is it down seasons for the Steelers and Patriots are losing in the first round of the playoffs when those are our highlights? The next time I see Marvin Lewis’s face, I might throw up.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
It will end
when Mike Brown and his nepotism family die in a tragic gardening accident like the drummer in Spinal Tap.
Until then, they’ll suck on.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Nov 9, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
I know you guys are pissed
but it was a good contest as it always is between our teams. As much as I don’t like TO, you gotta hand it to him: he plays 60 minutes. The man is a baller.
Relax, have a beer and don’t jump off the bandwagon. Our division is tough~ we have no fair weather fans. Rest up and see ya in the ’Burgh…
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
With all due respect, Mr. Goodell... a 2 week notice will not be necessary. Get yourself a little box, pack your stuff and retire. There will be no party for you...but we're going to have a helluva party after you're gone. Buh-bye!
Tell that to my friend who gave up on the 2-6 Browns and was writing you guys off for this season
But suddenly is the biggest Steeler fan ever.
Agree
Totally agree, AFC North is the best and most competitive division in the NFL
by socalbengalfa on Nov 9, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
wait a steelers fan just suggested cincy fans ride the bandwagon. a team that is filled with bandwagon type followers just told the chicago cub fans of the nfl, not to fall off the bandwagon.
wow. irony.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
by palewook on Nov 9, 2010 5:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It would be irony
if it wasn’t coming from a fan who in 46 years, never cheered a down for another team besides mine. There are a lot more from beginning to end Steeler fans than you think, dude.
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
With all due respect, Mr. Goodell... a 2 week notice will not be necessary. Get yourself a little box, pack your stuff and retire. There will be no party for you...but we're going to have a helluva party after you're gone. Buh-bye!
I don't see the irony of that
it would be irony if a banwagon fan, not calling you a banwagon fan 1BlkGldFan :), told you to jump off the bandwagon, or at least thats what I understand
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Nov 9, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Inspirational performance on his part. I hate the bastard, but damn…if you had half your offense playing as hard as him, you’d win 11 games.
If it were me, I would seriously consider cutting Chad Ochocinco right now. He’s like the girlfriend you bring to a party, and she gets raging drunk and keeps trying to pick fights with people, and all you’re thinking is, “I’m gonna get her out of here tonight, and break up with her tomorrow.”
Just a gutless, heartless performance on his part. He’s a distraction. I mean, you had your right tackle yelling at him to get in position as if he was a bouncer tossing him from a bar. You can’t compete with that going on.
He should be fired- who has his career recordat Bungle land? Cant be good!
by CA_Steeler_Fan on Nov 9, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Shitty
but better than all the other coaches Mike Brown has hired.
Mike Brown on the other hand was the fastest owner in NFL history to 200 losses, and the slowest to 100 wins. In history. He beat the next runner up, the owner of the Falcons, by 33 games, or two full seasons.
But around in here in KoolAidVille it’s Marvin Lewis’ fault
Note to Koolaiders: I think Marvin Lewis stinks. But replacing him with the stinkers that would be willing to work for scumbag Mike Brown won’t make a damn bit of difference.
28 years since the last back-to-back winning season. 20 years since the last playoff win. 200 losses since 1990 (that’s averaging more than 10 per year)
by occams_tiger_teeth on Nov 9, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he stinks
The biggest thing that pisses me off is the repetitive nature of the game openings and the press conferences.
Yesterday was everything wrong with this team. Defense struggling (did well to hold, considering the shitholes they were put in). Normal offense not worth much merit. Express train offense looked good.
Palmer forcing the throw on third and don’tworryaboutit. Intercepted.
Adam Jones SORELY missed, throughout the game (defense and special teams). [I’m not going to fault the special teams too much for the whole season, but boy they hold the bag on this game.]
Then the unfortunate something that happens every game: Shipley couldn’t hold on that last play.
Gooble Gobble
Gooble Gobble
One of us
One of us
he dont care anymore...
No emotion and I didn’t see him one time talking to his players. Chad needed benched. What a crybaby.
by quickslant on Nov 9, 2010 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Marvin isn't going to stick around
And Gruden isn’t coming here. Mike Brown wants someone whom he can control somewhat. Gruden is that guy.
you pretty much hit on my fear
i do believe this season sums up marvin’s time in cincy. things he can’t control but handed down by brown hamper his team’s success on the field. asking for more control and not receiving it will be the reason marvin leaves.
and the idea that some coach, like cowher, with a pedigree of winning, will come to cincy and let mike brown dictate terms of employment to them, is not based in reality.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Take it easy on Marvin,
He used to live across the street from me back in the burgh, my family still gets christmas cards from him. Lol, anyway I definitely think its time for him to go too, with all the arrests and now the turnovers and mistakes it seems like he has lost control. But I think you guys should give him some credit for bringing you guys from the bottom of the league and into the playoffs a few times in recent years.
As for the game tonight, I have to give you guys credit for not giving up, like everyone including the announcers thought you would, after that last Steelers TD. You guys fought until the end and were pretty close to beating what I hope is going to be a Superbowl contender. I think with some better coaching and getting back to the basics, you guys will come back strong next year and compete for the toughest division in football again. Good luck to you guys and see you in a few weeks at the Ketchup Bottle.
all the arrests?
name some in 2010. name the steelers in 2010 as well. prove you are not trolling, type those facts out.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
So they all get erased from your record?
A former player was in trouble with the law, an allegation that never went anywhere. Then we had a quarterback who was accused of something, but never arrested.
Maualuga was arrested in 2010…
10/18/2009 Jeff Reed
10/18/2009 Matt Spaeth
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
you said
2010 lol not fair
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
by tannofsteel84 on Nov 9, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
blame it on the git that trolled the tread with his comment about how our arrests are contributing to issues with the 2010 bengals.
facts are simple, if any of the steelers fans in this thread know their team as well as they claim too or have followed their team as long as they’ve claimed they have. steelers wouldn’t bring up arrest records. seeing how since like 2003 the steelers are only 2-3 arrests behind the bengals.
he made an ignorant statement on 2 levels. one for not knowing the stats and for claiming it was part of a 2010 problems. fact is, it has nothing to do with the 2010 ailments in cincy. he was just trolling and got called on it.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
when it comes to a steelers fan daring to mention arrests and cincy in the same sentence. i will absolutely call them on it.
the ‘burgh doesn’t have choir boys and any fan of the steelers that thinks they do, just jumped on the bandwagon recently. when you have a blotter lineup nearly as long as the bengals, you learn not to bring it up in conservation unless you are looking to discuss it. notice how few of the hardcore steelers fans ever mention the arrests, its because they know better than to go down that path.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
btw,
I also think the steeler wagon is large but recent. I do think there are tons of genuine long time steeler fans… just some are as wavering or waffly as any other kinda-watch-fans.
I can’t really tell you what to do w/trolls. Although I don’t think he intended to troll (he being someone non-pittsburghy), I bit and got sucked into an hour long argument and it turned out that he just didn’t understand what I was saying and couldn’t vocalize what he wanted to say). Like mandarin and cantonese.
Gooble Gobble
Gooble Gobble
One of us
One of us
ergh
I meant it to sound like I would be a bit hypocritical to tell you what to do with trolls. I can always recommend :)
Gooble Gobble
Gooble Gobble
One of us
One of us
The point was
that in previous years he has lost control of the team off of the field and now it would seem he has lost control on the field as well. I’m not saying that the Bengals are playing bad because they had people arrested two years ago or whenever the offseason was that there were a bunch of arrests. I am saying that with all of the previous arrests, and the apparent lack of discipline it would seem that Marvin Lewis’s time is up.
Postgame comments
I appreciate Marvin Lewis and the whole team. Yes, they make us mad, but at the same time, they have Mike brown for an owner.But I was a little mad at Lewis during the postgame.
I think someone asked him why they took of andre smith and Lewis immediately replied that “Noone gets a right to play on the team and they have to work for it.” But later, when someone asked about Ochocinco sitting out, he replied that “he needed to air out his frustrations etc.” Seems like a doubleedged sword.
I don’t think the season’s over. I just can’t accept it. Call me a man in denial, but with the players still thinkin positive, I think a miracle can happen. Hopefully…
Despit not being perfect,terrible challenges and strange clock management,Marvin Lewis is all that stands between us and a Mike Fucking Brown Abyss
Gruden wont come here to work for a dufus,at least Al Davis had a winning pedigree. The best we can Hope for is marvin gets extended and Brown gives him more power…If Marvin Walks no new coach will have Marvins Clout(Limited as it is) and The new coach will be left to coach with one hand tied behind his back,Marvin has done this but is calling fuckheads bluff and doesnt want to do it anymore,If Lewis walks then forget about it,we are going down down down.
by pilks1075 on Nov 9, 2010 5:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i do agree that marvin is all that is holding back mike brown
marvin goes, there will be another lost decade coming to cincy.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Eh....
Look what Holmgren’s already doing in Cleveland. That team competes, and plays its butt off every game. I’m not saying they’re playoff-bound, but no team wants to play them right now, and they’ve got a rookie QB and something called Peyton Hillis leading the offense.
It’s not impossible to bring in someone who can steer the franchise in another direction. For as much as I respect Coach Lewis, I think he’s lost most of his team, certainly his offense. What Ochocinco did last night is completely inexcuseable and unacceptable. I’d cut his ass tomorrow if I had the reins.
exacltly on holmgren in cleveland
he’s the team president and calls the shots.
in cincy, if marvin leaves, nothing changes. brown will still be calling the shots when the next coach joins the bengals.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Agreed
I hope that Marvin stays, because that is the only chance we have for a GM.
I would like to see this same team get another shot next year with a new offensive coordninator. USe our top 10 draft pick to get a new LT, move Whitworth back to guard. Then bring more young blood to the defense, especially at Safety, DL and LB.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
this draft thing would work a lot better for us if we had.. you know.. scouts.
by pedro_oliveira on Nov 9, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
I think a GM would help. I think our coaches do a decent job of seeing talent. I think the gap comes from not getting players that fit well in the system. That said I also think scouts would help a lot, but I am willing to go one step at a time.
It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. ~ The Brain
the hallmark of the season
leaving points on the field and giving points away.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 9, 2010 7:09 AM EST reply actions
been rough to witness it
we’re snake-bitten in 2010. one week its the o-line, one week its the d-line, one week its the special teams, one week its the fumble, etc.
only consistent inconsistent factors in 2010 for us:
1) bratt
2) turn overs
3) under performance of d-line
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
One decision I can not understand
Nuge looked horrible on his first FG attempt, missing badly. Why not go for it on 4th down on his second attempt, which was virtually from the same distance. And to make matters worse, if Im not mistaken it was a 4th and 3, so it wouldn’t be a bad gamble.
I guess that’s what I get from expecting good coaching from this team.
I feel for the WRs
Maybe they should have taped Carson to his locker at halftime. Does Lefaveour(sp?) have anything?
All night long there were open guys but Carson only ever looks at one receiver for the duration of the play. He had 2 or 3 throws that weren’t pathetic, the rest took too long to get to the target and were off-target once they got there.
It’s sad when the announcers, who all still seem to think Carson is who he was in 2005, make comments like “If the Steelers leave Chad in isolation here, that’s where Carson’s going with the ball” and before the snap the safety moves up to blitz, leaving Chad one on one, and he beats his man soundly, and Carson never even looks to his side of the field.
On a happier note, Benson ran really well. It was nice to see him really attacking a defense.
What a joke of a post
No matter how we lose people will blame it on Carson.
I hope he gets out of this fucking terrible town.
by Throw the ball on Nov 9, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
What, you thought he played well? Watch a throw by any other QB in the league, then watch a throw by Palmer. Notice a distinct lack of velocity? Notice the WR having to leap or dive for the ball? Notice how the QBs head doesn’t seem to turn at all to find an open man, instead he just goes for the guy he locked onto before the ball was snapped? Notice how he doesn’t seem to have any idea when there are defenders closing in on him and displays absolutely no ability to move in the pocket and buy time?
by indesignkat on Nov 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Good games fellas
A gut wrenching loss. You almost pulled off a miracle. You have a good team and they fought hard, they just fought hard too late. I’m not sure what needs to be done for your team. But I send my condolences and hope you don’t take it too hard. I think with the right tweaks the bengals will be back next year. 2-6 is too hard to come back from this year unfortunately.
Steelers football is 60 mins. The final 15 have been re-constructed with re-enforced steel and ready to withstand punishment and deal out some itself. HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO.
This team will never be a contender until Mike Brown is gone...
I wish you could fire owners. To bad it runs like everything else and the rich men get to sit on the high horse.
sorry guys i went through the same pain this weekend as a bucs fan, i wish you guys would have pulled out the win, really besides the rb pass in the 2nd half you guys dominated
should have pulled out the win, you guys played way better in the second half and im sure the steelers were pretty nervous
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