Post-Game Open Thread: Bengals Break 84-Day And 10-Game Winless Streak, Beating The Browns 19-17
by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 19, 2010 4:20 PM EST
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PrintOn September 26, the Cincinnati Bengals beat the Carolina Panthers 20-7. Little did the Bengals and their fans know, the team wouldn't win another game for 84 straight days. Eighty. Four. Straight. Games. Or as Chad Ochocinco says, Ocho Cuatro days. Whatever you call it, it's a much needed win for Bengals fans edging ever closer to the cliff.
Then came the 75th Battle of Ohio on December 19, 2010. The Cincinnati Bengals held onto a 19-17 win over the Cleveland Browns, breaking Cincinnati's 10-game losing streak and bringing some Sunday joy to fans and players just before Christmas.
The Bengals finally went back to their character driven squad in 2009, with a run-first offense that dictated the time of possession, holding onto the football 37:38. Cedric Benson ran the football 31 times for 150 yards rushing that included an 18-yard touchdown run in the second quarter. Benson recorded his first back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons after Sunday's performance. Bernard Scott ran the football eight times for 40 yards in his biggest participation on offense in the season.
But it wasn't just the running game. The Bengals passing game was largely responsible. Palmer completed 14 of 23 passes for 209 yards passing, distributing the football to eight different receivers. Andre Caldwell led the team with 89 yards receiving, including a 53-yard bubble screen late in the game. Jerome Simpson caught two passes for 30 yards, both 15-yard reception, giving him a career game.
The Bengals recorded four quarterback sacks, led by Carlos Dunlap's two sacks. Pat Sims and Geno Atkins each recorded a quarterback sack.
The Bengals played a very good game overall. Enjoy it brothers. Now it's time to start over, finish the season strong and get ready for what could be a long and interesting offseason.
A few notes:
- Roddrick Muckelroy stoned Peyton Hillis on third-and-one early in the fourth quarter with Dhani Jones diving in and wrapping the running back's legs. The tackle prevented Hillis from reaching the Bengals four-yard line and forcing the Browns to punt, to reduce Cleveland's deficit to six points on what could have been a touchdown.
- Andre Caldwell's 53-yard bubble screen in the fourth quarter was in response to Cincinnati losing a two-possession lead, putting the Bengals back into position to retake a nine-point lead.
- Carlos Dunlap's second sack came on third-and-five, forcing the Browns to punt.
- Great job by Clint Stitser, perfect on all four field goal attempts.
- How cool was Cedric Benson running the football eight straight times in the third quarter, knocking 5:26 off the clock and eventually taking a nine-point lead.
- Bengals converted two situations in which they were stuck with 20 yards to go on first and second down respectively.
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Ummm, the Bengals could have had DeSean Jackson
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
yeah
Simpson’s got a lot of catching up to do
"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski
+1
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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Jackson would have been a disaster in Cincinnati.
Him and Chad would have killed each other by now and both would have probably driven each other’s contract demands through the roof and probably chased each other out of town. Jackson held out for an extension with Philly when they had basically no one else at receiver.
WHO DEY ON A BROWNIE BITCH
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
Oh man, that was GREAT
Screw the Carson haters who will inevitably bash him for some reason, screw the Luck lovers crying tears that the Bengals just pushed their way beyond him in the draft, screw the Jerome Simpson sucks talk, screw the T.O. love. I loved every second of that and Jerome Simpson and Andre Caldwell just made me believers. Throw in Chris Pressley and we’ve got a GOGDAMN TEAM. HELL YES
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
I'm still on the cut ties with Palmer bandwagon
One game just doesn’t do it for me
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
The salary, not only the player, has to be into the discussion
…he’s not worth the hit next season.
I’d sooner tie up Benson, JJo and others.
+1
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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
-1
"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski
Same.
Which is why I’d rather trade down or, if that’s not an option, take a not-QB in the draft. No need to pay two franchise QBs when we’ve got to lock up at least Joseph. It was nice seeing Benson dominate teams with a FB again though.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
it was the browns
i find it funny that just because we beat the browns you think carson is back, and simpson and caldwell are the future. I will say this, simpson looked good and he gave it his all on running plays as well. Caldwell looks better then he did all this year. I want to see what carson does when hes up against the the ravens. I still think palmer should go. Use the money for JJ and maybe benson. I do feel much better about the WR position though, maybe we get one in the 4th. although if we can’t get luck, what about replacing Chad with AJ Green and simpson and shipley on the other side.
Simpson
The kid’s just happy to be there.
Not sure he’s worth the wait. Nice to see Caldwell out of the doldrums. He can make plays, just wonder if his head’s in it as well (as Shipley’s really come in and just wiped the floor with him).
I've been saying that if we don't get Luck (which, at this point, we probably won't)
We should focus on positions of need and A.J. Green is a very likely pick given Mike Brown’s history. I’m not saying Palmer’s 100% scot-free but he looked good when the OLine gave him time.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
He had time on those pick sixes last week to
He just got baited into both of them and he shouldn’t have
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Again
Many of his mistakes have come without being touched. I guess you misremembered.
And really, wouldn’t all quarterbacks be better if they weren’t sacked? It’s a part of the game, and Palmer’s lack of mobility and tendency to freeze up under pressure are part of the equation.
Hm?
I thought he played a lot better with Andre Smith in the starting lineup. Sure, he’s made mistakes with Andre Smith in, but simultaneously, he also seems to be a lot better. Granted—two games—but y’know…
There’s also a difference between getting pressured and getting sacked. Palmer’s usually under constant pressure with the current Oline.
You’re right though, he does make mistakes without getting touched. I thought he improved tremendously without TO and Ocho starting, as Jerome and Caldwell allowed him not to focus in on one person. Maybe having T.O. and Chad demanded too much of the offense?
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
Carson was decent, but he did miss Shipley on two surefire touchdowns. I’m not ready to call 4 field goals and a touchdown against the Browns a breakout game.
Carson supporters can’t have it both ways. Last year he sucks because his receivers suck. This year he’s surrounded by talent, but can’t perform because he locks in on T.O. When will the planets align for Mr. Palmer?
Ha
I knew “Overreact to an insignificant win against a bad team” Guy would show up.
Congratulations, sir. You’re how the Brown family will continue to trot out a lousy product year after and string fans along for the ride.
I’m glad one person is enjoying himself.
Right, because it's clearly the fan's fault that the Bengals are 3-11 this year
You’re how the Brown family will continue to trot out a lousy product
If only we wouldn’t enjoy the games, then they would be good! But wait…if we didn’t enjoy the games, then who would be fans??? It’s a vicious cycle that you’re painting.
This is our year!
Overreacting?
I’m not allowed to enjoy victory? To enjoy not having to listen to “haw the bengals lost” for a week? To enjoy something good about my team for once this season? Jesus, why are you criticizing people for this, slippery slope or not?
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
Yea, one game he does okay and you think all is well in Bengaldom?
by James Schmid the great on Dec 19, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
No? I'm simply just enjoying the win.
It’s a hell of a lot nicer than all the bitterness and bitching after a loss.
Kinda like right now. :\
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
Rivers
Did he pick up an injury? Didn’t show up on any tackles charts and missed a couple (again) today. Dhani doesn’t look the weaklink at LB.
Rivers looked terrible today
Maualuga just disappears at OLB
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Quick first half review...
Jones gave up a pass and a foul on their opening score; Rivers missed a potential pick six and Rey was on two or three plays but clearly confused on their TD play (scored by a TE on his side of the field where Hall looked caught because he was focused on Cribbs).
Second possession, Rivers missed two tackles on the first two plays.
Third possession, Hillis beats Rey on a pass play, and then Royal was tackled by Geathers on Rey’s side (unsure why Geathers was there and not the LB). Watson then on Rey in space as McCoy spread it nicely again to the TE.
Clearly it tightened up later, and taking Hillis out of the game has something to do with it, but they were chasing shadows at times.
Too bad the Saints choked the game away.
I really, really, want the Bengals to knock the Ravens out of the playoffs in two weeks.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
would be lovely
at their place too
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
The Jets and Bengals should meet every season like the Colts Pats rivalry
if the Bengals could actually win a few vs the Jets it could become a nice rivalry, an annual Thanksgiving day game would be sweet
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
T.O. ot I.R.
I know its probably just a coinsidence, but they looked much better without T.O. I think they should use Owens injury as an excuse to place him on Injuried Reserved. Let J. Simpson play the remander of the season to see whether he’s a keeper or not.
depends on how we want to do things
I’m cool with putting T.O. out of the way, but if we want to run it, we gotta keep Caldwell in. Caldwell is really the person who puts the running game over the top, he can block so much better than T.O. and it gives Benson a bit more breathing room once he gets past the line
Heeeeey, Ochocinco, he's a good guy, no?
I thought the same
I think this season with all the TO hype and Dynamic Duo crap that Carson has forced an awful lot to Chad and TO, and chemistry got screwed up. To me he seemed more comfortable and decisive. Plus it allows more weapons to get involed. Chad, Caldwell, Simpson, Shipley, and Cosby all caught passes fron the WR spot. Gives Defenses more to think about. Also with Gresham, Leonard and maybe Coffman can contribute we can have a nice Offense. I want to see some more of these young guys with Palmer.
by Bengal Brian on Dec 19, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I agree. Carson has TO in his ear, so he forces balls to him. Want to see the young guys from here on out. One stat people ignore with TO on the team is the number of wins. Look at the past two teams Owens has been on and their success level.
How can we have a governor of Ohio that roots for the Steelers!!
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
I agree
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
re-election
that would be an amazing campaign.
“How can we elect someone who doesn’t even support his own state, but instead turns to Pittsburgh, WE HATE PITTSBURGH” I’m random politician and I approve this message
Heeeeey, Ochocinco, he's a good guy, no?
+1
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
What kind of football-loving state does that?
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
He probably didnt reveal it until elected
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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Detroit won as well
still in line for that #2 pick
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
Oh yeh, that's partially why I'm so happy.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
now with this win mike brown will tell the fans. see there i told you guys we dont need a coaching or qb change next year just bring everyone back
by bengalinflorida on Dec 19, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
that is scary
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Should be the most interesting off-season since TJ left
should be exciting
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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
For sure...
…but really because the season wasn’t.
It would be great if September to February was a bit more interesting, especially considering the talent.
lets hope that mikey boy makes it interesting
by bengalinflorida on Dec 19, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
i'm sure he will
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
The only way Mike Brown will truly make it an interesting offseason is if he announces his retirement.
Unless that happens, it’s mostly just going to be redundant.
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
by Doc Scratch on Dec 19, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
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by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
let's hope someone lights a fire under his ass
He needs to settle the coaching situation before he can decide on personel moves. Plus, the coaches do most of the scouting review before the draft. finally, he’s going to be flustered becuase he doesn’t know if they are even going to be playing football next year and he’s bound not to make any new contract commitments before he knows what the rules will be.
"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski
Goodbye Andrew Luck
We can’t even lose properly. Luck is the only no-brainer QB in the draft.
its not over just yet carolina won today as well
by bengalinflorida on Dec 19, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
You expect Carolina to beat the Falcons and Steelers?
Joe Reedy: "Supposedly Marvin could not find his flag to challenge the call. I am not kidding. #bengals"
you never know
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"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
It´s a damned organization.
This win just put us out of contention for the next Peyton Manning.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
Done
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
by TennBengalfan on Dec 19, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm ok with this
No T.O.=more focus on the running game
No T.O.=less tunnel vision from Palmer
While he is a beast, he taketh more than he giveth, in my opinion
Heeeeey, Ochocinco, he's a good guy, no?
Honestly I think our offense clicked because TO didn´t play for most of the game.
Even Palmer played better without him. Unbelievable.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
that and Caldwell was in
Caldwell makes better blocks than T.O. but doesn’t get the credit cause he isn’t a spotlight kinda guy
Heeeeey, Ochocinco, he's a good guy, no?
I think there may be something to this theory.
Let him walk next year. Not that he’d want to come back anyways, but I don’t have a problem with that.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
Good riddance
My three favorite things in the world in no particular order: My wife, sex with my wife, and The Cincinnati Bengals
alright you guys see you Sunday
I’m going to watch football on a real TV
"In Zim We Trust"-TennBengalfan
"You don't live in Cleveland, You live in Cincinnati"-Sam Wyche
in regards to andrew luck
the bengals will find ways to lose even win they win.
by bengalinflorida on Dec 19, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions
Dont need Andrew Luck
And why is everyone so enamored for a Redshirt Sophomore. We dont know if he’s Manning or Leaf?
The thing on his side above others is the intangibles.
Meaning work ethic, intelligence, passion, etc.
These intangibles are the very reason the Colts picked Manning over Leaf, as a matter of fact.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
well that could be said for every qb coming out every year you dont know, but he is the best prospect out there.
by bengalinflorida on Dec 19, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
this doesn't mean a thing though
If Carolina snatches him up first. Honestly, Carolina really needs a qb, or they need to dedicate themselves to Clauson. I wonder what they will do when they have probable #1 pick… hmmmmmmm
Heeeeey, Ochocinco, he's a good guy, no?
I dont think that is the way to so thats why we debate
I still say if done correctly we can win with Palmer.
Oh, I agree Palmer can still be alright at QB and can win games.
Luck is the ONLY QB I would take with the 2nd or 3rd overall. If he isn’t there I say go a different route. (DT, maybe? I’d like Dareus or Fairley.)
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
I think we have the talent
I doubt that anyone is broken beyond fixing, it seems to be more of a moral and coaching thing. We lose because we get out-schemed and we are used to that. The draft isn’t going to be our big solution, getting our heads out from the designated sitting end will be what turns this team around
Heeeeey, Ochocinco, he's a good guy, no?
Cedric Benson
I dont care what you all say about Cedric, he went over 1,000 yards again with a poor offensive line in front of him. Even though the O-line did look good today. Palmer didnt get sacked once.
He's nothing special.
If he realizes that and it reflects in his asking price, by all means resign him. If he wants the money of a star let hi walk. HBs like him are a dime a dozen.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
Anyone else see Ben miss a wide open Wallace a few minutes ago.
LOL.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
I know i will be attacked for this
but i like the Jets. They play hard and they are a good team, if there is any team that i would want to go Superbowl (since we aren’t getting there this season) i would want the Jets to.
don’t hurt me, I promise i have no emotional attachment to the team, just intrest in their talent
Heeeeey, Ochocinco, he's a good guy, no?
I'm excited to get a win but.....
I’m sick of the Bungles. TO is bad for team chemistry. I want Luck, but I believe he’s not in the picture. Mike Brown sucks, and the Bengals will always suck with him in power. I want a change for Christmas!
And the best part is it doesn't effect our draft position at all.
Buffalo, Detroit, and Carolina all winning – we get to enjoy beating the Browns and still have a shot at Luck.
One thing obvious to me now is that we do NOT need to go after a pass rusher in the the first round. Dunlap is an unleashed animal and he’s only going to get better, and I swear I never see Atkins play a snap where he isn’t at least pushing a lineman back into the QB’s face. Hand the reins over to Dunlap/Johnson, stop pretending Robert Geathers is a serviceable DE and the pass rush is fine. At this point we’re probably going to be picking #2 or #3. If Luck is gone, AJ Green would make a nice replacement for Chad for the next 10 years. Then pick up the best available QB in the 2nd and pick up a Kitna-esque guy in FA to mentor him for a year (NOT Carson…he still has an arm, but the last thing he needs to be doing at this point is tutoring a young QB.)
Game ball goes to Mckelroy
My god what a stop on 3rd and short. And it was Peyton the ram truck Hillies needles to say.
What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.
by jimbasa on Dec 19, 2010 6:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Dammit, the Steelers are clutch.
They just converted a 3rd and 24.
They find ways to win. We find ways to lose.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
Jets win!!!
Ben did a great job buying some time on the last play, but his receivers just weren’t open.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
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