Dave Lapham: Carson Palmer Looks Happier And Energized
by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 28, 2010 11:22 AM EST
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PrintAs you can imagine, after the Bengals dominating 34-20 win over the Chargers Monday evening's Bengals Line on 700 WLW was far more upbeat than it's been in the past, where guests like Joe Walter wonder if Carson Palmer hasn't been shell shocked like David Klingler became.
I thought you guys might like this. During the show's opening moments, Dave Lapham talks about the pregame routine well before the game started this past Sunday.
"You know it started in pregame warm-up, two hours before the game. There's some snow squalls blowing through Paul Brown Stadium, blowing right across the river. Carson Palmer is out there with Jordan. And Jerome Simpson and Andre Caldwell are out there. As well as Quan Cosby. They're the only guys out on the football field. And Carson Palmer and Jordan Palmer are throwing passes and Jerome Simpson and Caldwell and Cosby are running routes that they're going to be running during the course of the game, get timing down and they are like watching nine-year old kids having fun in the snow.
"And I looked at Carson, I'm thinking, he looks happy. There's a smile on his face, a bounce in his step, instead of looking tired, everywhere you can be tired, physically, emotionally, you know mentally."
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If Chad plays
I want to see Carsons face in this game. Is he going to look happy? I bet he starts forcing the ball too..
jordan shipley wasn't out there??? he's a team cancer. we need to release him.
by GrooveLeg on Dec 28, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I am not certain but...
I believe he was off fighting Lex Luther at the time.
We should trade him for Mardy Gilyard. Damn him for his lack of caring :-)
Just kidding….but it was probably just because he’s be practicing with him on timing and routes in the same role all year with the first team. And where was Jermaine?? Trade him too…. :-)
i have always been one of Chad's biggest supporters
and he’s still one of my favorite players. Additionally, i don’t like making up my mind or opinion based off 1 game, but after watching what we did to the Bolts, and seeing Carson’s complete change in demeanor/behavior/play without Chad and TO in the line up, something clicked inside me. I honestly think that Chad’s antics, and self-centered (not selfish, self-centered) approach has gotten to be too much for Carson. He always says the right things to the press about his relationship w/Chad, and the homer in me always wanted them to be best buds and shit on and off the field so I think i just bought in and believed what Carson was saying……until now. Now i think (IMO) it’s very clear that Carson either doesn’t like Chad (atleast not at the level he’s led us to believe through sound bites) or that Chad’s attitude/focus/antics pre-game & during game wore Carson down. If that seed of doubt bury’s itself in your head about a teamate and you start to lose confidence or just generally start disliking the guy only bad things will come- then throw in the fact that he’s basically forced to work w/the guy and throw to the guy to prevent his 5 yr old tantrums and I think the end result is the “okay/mediocre/average” Palmer we’ve seen much of this year. You get the Palmer who forces passes into unrealistic coverages, the Palmer who looks like he hates life and doesn’t enjoy football. Soooo with all that being said, if my new thought process is accurate, I’m more than okay with letting Chad go, b/c I want the Carson Palmer we saw Sunday to be our QB of the future. He still has the arm, the skills, and decision making when he has confidence….and i’m starting to think that Chad sucks the confidence right out of him and in it’s place leaves embarrassment and distrust….
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by TruWhoDey on Dec 28, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
I think we underestimate the charecter and class Palmer has, which has dissembled all the behind-the-scenes issues you alluded to over the years. Part of me wonders if the main reason Palmer requested TO was a way to drift from Chad – which ultimately (IMO) blew up in his face.
Adding onto your statement, I think Palmer is a very non-confrontational guy who, as Cbyers would claim, gets “punked” easily by guys like Chad. I don’t remember Kitna taking shit from Chad. In fact, I distinctly remember Jon Kitna pointing out the extensive amount of passes he threw to Chad along with his dropped catches after Chad complained about not getting the ball enough. I’m not sure what goes on behind the scenes, but I have the feeling Palmer let’s guys like Chad (and TO, Housh, etc.) get away with crap and simply takes abuse – and I wish he’d stand up for himself a little more. But if he can’t, then we need to get rid of Chad.
We should use NE as the standard. They released Moss and we should follow their lead.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
and remember gresham yelling at carson in an early game
who taught gresham that was o.k.?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Dec 28, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Being a good wr or not
We had personalities (TO and Chad) sucking the confidence out of him. Sometimes this really happens to people. Even in a normal work place for regular people. I’ve experieced it at my work and it’s easier for me to go into work now, now that there is no more drama b/c he’s gone. Some people are just like that. They don’t mean to be, but it’s their personality. It’s a shame but true.
+1 on the Personality Clash
I think Chad needs to go. Everyone keeps saying we need to keep him for 2.5 million, but frankly it starting to seem like Chad’s a liability and costing much more than that.
totally agree
I think Palmer has lost confidence and some focus during the games due to everything going on off the field, which was part of the reason I wanted to see us let him leave Cincy for his own sake.
I don’t think you can put all of it on Chad, though. I think Carson also has shown more frustration in the coaching this year, in his own way, than he ever has. The number of times that he’s walked to the sideline with a pizzed look on his face after Marvin burns a time out, you can just tell sometimes he wants the reigns and he’s not being given them.
I loved seeing the team play the way they did on Sunday, but unfortunately I don’t believe anything changes next year in our results unless at LEAST Brat is gone. At this point it almost doesn’t matter who the new OC is, Carson just needs some new making the game plans.
As much as I want it to happen
We should get new blood at the QB position. BUT its not going to happen..We will keep palmer and make him one of the highest paid players next season and we will have no receiving corps again he will have another abysmal season.
I cannot stand by a QB who is getting paid this much to post an 82.7 Passer rating this season with 6 games with under 70.00 passer rating.
Hue Jack for head coach
Well...
He also has 6 games with a passer rating above 90 and 4 above 100.
All this proves is that his play is inconsistent, and that’s been a problem with this whole team. Not sure it’s fair to blame him alone.
by Throw the ball on Dec 28, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Let me put it into a better perspective for you that are in Palmers corner
part of piece I just read:
The fact that Palmer needed both receivers to be injured to relax enough to play quarterback properly is a huge red flag.
He is the quarterback he shouldn’t bow down to anyone. Not T.O., not Ocho or anyone who is pressuring him for the ball. Ever since he knee was destroyed in the playoff game against the Steelers, his nerves are rattled by the slightest thing.
Don’t make excuses for Palmer. T.O. and Ocho are talented players, but they didn’t have a gun to Palmer’s head saying throw it into double coverage. If Palmer is more scared of the wrath of Ocho and T.O. than making the proper play for the team’s success, who is really the problem?
While there is truth in the statement not having TOcho around made Palmer a better quarterback for a day, it shows he isn’t a leader for the future.
Hue Jack for head coach
Some people are just cancers
T.O hasn’t been able to have a stable relationship with a single one of his QB’s. I thought it was going to last in Dallas and then he started crying saying that Romo and Witten were secrelty trying to get T.O less touches.
Say what you want, but a QB who has lost it doesn go over a 100 rating 4 times in 15 games. Just doesn’t happen.
by Throw the ball on Dec 28, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
and also from that piece..
The quarterback is the leader. Not the WRs, not the RBs and not anyone on the defense. If your quarterback isn’t a leader no matter how good the other parts are you will fail as a team. In essence the quarterback is like a head coach but he is on the field.
If your quarterback can’t handle stress and difficult players then he isn’t the leader you want controlling your squad.
Terrell Owens is a difficult player to manager for coaches and quarterbacks. Ignoring his stint in Buffalo which quarterback handle T.O. the best?
Donovan McNabb?
McNabb couldn’t co-exist with T.O. and was the main reason he was booted from the Eagles, but since T.O. left how has that worked out for McNabb?
Tony Romo?
Jerry Jones never wanted to get rid of T.O., but Romo couldn’t handle T.O. either so he was let go and how have things been working out for the Cowboys?
Jeff Garcia?
Garcia didn’t give a crap about T.O. antics, called him out on it and threw the ball to who he thought was open regardless of the situation. Garcia was never as talented as Romo or McNabb, but he garnered a lot of respect.
You take someone like Tom Brady who had to deal with Randy Moss for four years. If you think Moss just started acting up this year, you are being naive, but Moss respected Brady, because Brady, “Ugg Passion” and all commands respect. Either you get in line or you get out.
Hue Jack for head coach
Slim
Your either a Carson hater or related to Ocho and Owens reps,your non sense goes on def ears,it was obv Carson was relaxed and having fun and feeding off the Young Guns,and not hearing the cryin an whining on every single play,and it wasnt just Carson,the whole team was feeding off the positive energy,that was a top defense with very good corners fighting to win a playoff spot,you cant deny that Carson looked so relaxed and able execute game plays,instead of whining and complaining,the onlyyy reason Chad wants to play is that he seen the Young Guns get publicity and wants to put himself above them so he can get paid after this season,no matter who he throws under the bus to get it.
We will see this weekend..
I’m assuming chad will play so if carson sucks you will probably blame it on him. As stated NOONE holds a gun to his head and forces him to telegraph his passes into double coverage.
I’m one mans opinion and laugh at all of the people who are back on his side after one good game.
Hue Jack for head coach
so
By your reasoning it’s the qb’s fault at every stop T.O. has had.
It couldn’t possibly be TO’s knack for throwing his teammates , qb or caches under the bus at every stop?
Everyone knows to he gives 100% on every play.
Everyone knows he will go over the middle of the field to catch balls.
Everyone knows he doesn’t get alligator arms.
Nope it’s not T.O, it’s the quarterbacks fault.
as a matter of fact
Yes I am blaming them. He was fine in buffalo, Tom Brady can keep people in line.. since Cryin(corey) Dillon and Moss went there, you havent heard a peep from them. And when you did, moss got shipped the f out. Some QB’s can handle it, and obviously CP9 cannot
Hue Jack for head coach
thats a reflection on Belicheck not Brady
plus Brady knows he’s the golden child there, and Belicheck has his back.
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I disagree
The rumors have been out there for a long time that Palmer and Ocho have behind the scenes issues with each other. This is not news. Palmer cannot make his receivers run proper routes. He looks hesitant because both T.O and Chad have hung him out to dry all season long. Palmer has made bad choices as well,but every QB will do that throughout a season. I have said it before and I will say it again,give Palmer a group of receivers who will run a proper route every time and he will go back to being great. I think Chad can play within the system again. TO will never play in any system that doesn’t revolve completely around him and even then it’s never TO’s fault it’s always someone elses.
Other QB’s can mix and match wide outs and never miss a beat. Why? Because the replacements come in, run good clean routes. It’s what every QB needs and it’s what Palmer hasn’t been getting all season long.
Soo
what about last year? You saying Coles didnt run his routes? or (RIP) Slim didnt run his routes?
Hue Jack for head coach
Coles was done in this league
and once we lost Henry there was no deep threat.
2 completely different seasons.
by Throw the ball on Dec 28, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
actually you can track many of the problems on O to slim going down
they were never as explosive after Henry left the Baltimore game, in part because there wasn’t balance to the routes that the receivers were running
go back and look at the game winning touchdown at home against the Steelers that (IMO) really launched our season last year. The reason that Caldwell was able to settle down into the open zone right at the goaline was that 2 Pit defenders went to the back of the endzone to defend Slim
the problem is two fold. Brat runs a complex passing offense that requires precision in routes where one route opens another. One of the biggest problems Palmer has shown in the past 2 years was not progressing well enough through the reads, but part of that problem was due to WR not being in the spot they are supposed to be and so he just lost faith in guys (see Coles, Laverneous)
I think we all agree that he is not an individual threat like Vick, or improviser like Big Ben or Brees, but he still has all the skills he needs to put up wins IF he is part of a winning organization.
I hate to sound like a broken record but you could put Brady, Manning, Brees, anyone in this team with Mike Brown making the personnel decisions and Bratloser calling the plays and they would become very mediocre too
so, are you blaming Brat, Palmer, or the recievers?
the problem is two fold. Brat runs a complex passing offense that requires precision in routes where one route opens another. One of the biggest problems Palmer has shown in the past 2 years was not progressing well enough through the reads, but part of that problem was due to WR not being in the spot they are supposed to be and so he just lost faith in guys.
I think the key to your statement which gets underlooked is Palmer not progressing through the reads. I used to agree with your assessment on the assertion that any QB in this system would put up tantamount numbers – however I no longer buy that. Put Manning or Brady in this offense and they will succeed much better than Palmer has.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Eh....
if you’re system is built around throwing to a spot before your receivers makes his break (like ours) and he goes the wrong way it doesn’t matter what QB is in there they will be serving up picks all day long
by Throw the ball on Dec 28, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I have a hard time buying that argument
I mean… shit. Am to believe that after 10 years, Chad is still running the wrong routes? Maybe he does every once in a while, but how do we know Palmer isn’t the one confusing routes? As a QB, he has to know where 5 different guys are going – as opposed to a reciever who only needs to focus on one route. I’m not making any excuses for Chad on him verbally abusing Palmer on the sidelines, but if Chad was running the wrong routes, I doubt he’d have a leg to stand on – and Palmer wouldn’t be dumb as a lamb during this incidents.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
One specific play that this reminds me of....
It was on the first drive of one of the games, Ocho was supposed to run an out. Carson was under duress, threw the ball towards the sideline.
Chad wasn’t there b/c he attempted to deke the defender w/ an in cut before going out. Had he just gone out, he catches the pass. So it’s not even so much running the wrong routes, as compared to just not being where you are supposed to be or taking plays off.
maybe, but why can't Palmer compensate for that?
unfortunately, I can’t watch a video clip of the play you’re referring to so I can’t honestly assess everything that happened inthe play. But, I wonder if plays like that are what really frustrate Chad – ones where good QB’s would be able to read the defense better and be in sync with Chad when he improvises with a juke move to get open.
Sure, it’d be easier to just run the route exactly as it is called, but then again, you’re not adjusting to how the defense is covering you.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
RE: chad running wrong routes
it’s not so much that he runs “wrong” routes, its that he free-lances and improvises routes too much. (thinking Palmer is paying attention to his everystep and seeing when he makes a “different” break than he should- then the balls off target/behind him/over him)
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This makes the whole "staring down" receivers thing make sense.
Palmer had no clue where they would be if he looked at the whole field because he couldn’t see Chad or TO doing his own thing and would miss that route.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
that's actually a really good point
I never really thought of that before
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
I never thought about it until just now.
That’s kind of what TWD was getting at.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
the question I have though...
is whether or not Palmer should be able to anticipate what improvisions Chad will do with his routes based on the defensive looks. I know with Manning, he and his receivers will literally tweek their routes based on hand gestures and assumptions – which requires a great deal of chemistry and intelligence.
Years ago when Palmer and Chad would drive all the way to Indianapolis just to watch the Colts, I think they tried to simulate their style, but not sure Palmer quite has it mentally (which was overshadowed by everyone’s enamoration with his physical gifts).
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
It's hard to say.
We don’t really know how smart Chad is, either. I also wish Chad would show up to the freaking voluntary workouts consistently to help build that relationship.
I just came up with another theory. Maybe Palmer has a better chemistry with the younger guys because they were the ones working with him at OTA’s? TO wasn’t on the team yet and Chad was off being Chad. The young guys were working with him.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
if Palmer hasn't spent his entire pro career with Chad, I might buy that
though, I don’t imagine it would hurt for Chad to show up. Here’s a caveat to another of my theories….
If you remember the fanpost I did a while back on “Carson’s issue: mental, not physical”. The “brain doctor” (whatever his name was) mentioned about how Carson would become easily flustered and become “stiff” when he attempts throws. His recent success with Chad and TO out of the picture would support this theory in that Palmer is less stressed with younger guys like Simpson, Caldwell, and Shipley who aren’t going to be complaining to Palmer when their jobs are on the line (with the exception of Shipley, but who doesn’t seem like the complaiing type).
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
Even Peyton and his receivers (even Reggie Wayne, who he's been with forever) need offseason workouts to build their chemistry.
I remember reading an interview with Peyton about the possible extended season where he said he was upset that they would maybe be taking time off of camp. He says he needs all that time AND all of the offseason workouts (which is why he hates when guys don’t do offseason workouts) to build his chemistry with the receivers. Chemistry can pretty easily go away, especially with physical abilities of the players changing with age and the reads they need to make on defenses changing.
I honestly have no clue exactly what the problem is. This is speculation.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
maybe this guy knows...
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Exactly right on Chad improvising his routes.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 28, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
yes
the point was that all three are to blame, not just Palmer.
Carson definitely has been locking into receivers and that is ultimately his fault. But go back through his career and you’ll see that wasn’t a problem earlier, so why all of a sudden? this is just a theory but it goes something like this.
Brat has been calling the same passing offense for a decade so defenses have adjusted and have a much better idea of what we are running based on down, distance, and formation. So the concept of one route opening another is failing because we play against really smart D’s in this conference and they are wise to it.
That’s meant that there has been an even greater emphasis on smart route running because if the D already knows where they are going then the WR have to know the right adjustments. Well, that’s not happening. So Carson throws more incompletions & INT when he makes a read that is different from the receiver.
So what happens, Carson trusts the WR less and instead of looking off and and expecting the WR on the backside to be in the right place when he spins around, he locks into one side of the field and tries to squeeze the ball into coverage because at least he can tell where the WR is going.
Again, this is just theory but it is backed up by the slow progression we keep seeing into a less and less effective passing game with (mostly) the same players.
interesting breakdown
this is just my theory (not really supported by strong evidence), but dovetailing off your argument about the defenses becoming smarter, I think a lot of them have switched from playing man-coverage to zone defenses which are obviously harder for Palmer to read – plus a lot of teams have adapted to the 3-4 scheme which is also more confusing.
Earlier when defenses played a lot of man-coverage, Palmer could rely on his elite receivers (Chad, Housh, Henry) to get open. Now with zone coverages, Palmer gets out of wack.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
can't say you are wrong but....
I still think it is more a function of the playcalling & execution rather than Palmer’s ability to read a D.
Here’s all you really need to know about the state of our playcalling. The reason that Brat & Marvin gave for not using a FB for the first 10 weeks of the year was that if we had a FB in the formation it would give away that it’s a running play.
Huh?? I mean a 12 yr old could figure out how to put a FB in and have him block while you pass, or just have him run a pattern without any intention of ever throwing it.
There is NO new thinking in our play calling, which means we are starting behind the 8-ball against smart D’s that have a good idea of what play is going to get called.
Look at the stark difference between the no-huddle & the red-zone offense. All season the team has looked so much better in the no huddle because it adds a measure of unpredicatbility when Carson is getting them to the line and calling plays based on coverage. They are definitely seeing a lot of zone in those situations and he was still completing a passes.
On the flip side, once the team gets into the red zone Brat takes over and runs that thing into the ground. Just the same 6 plays with the occasional shotgun formation shovel pass thrown in for good measure. With less room to operate the D locks into the 2-3 routes they know are coming and just sit on them.
ehhh
first of all, most teams have gone away from using the FB – because the position is too limited, offensively, which hinders an offense against defenses (though of course it can still serve a purpose, as it seems to be now ). Partly why I think the fullback is helping us is because it simplifies things for Palmer. Not only does he have one less offensive weapon he has to keep track of, but having a FB in the backfield typically draws one more defender into the box. Fortunately for us, our linemen are actually pretty decent run-blockers, so the running game works more to our benefit.
In regards to the no-huddle, I think it works because the defenses don’t have time to make complex calls against it. They are often forced to remain in a basic set which prevents them from easily confusing Palmer.
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
RE:
It’s in my belief that EVERYONE is to blame. Palmer stares down his star receivers, linemen are very inconsistent at blocking, Cedric’s low center of gravity is gone, wide receivers running improvised routes, Brat, etc…
This offense has rarely done it right on a single play and when they’re in sync, they put together games like they did against the Chargers.
I mean, if San Diego proved anything, it’s that they are more than capable of putting together awesome performances. It’s just that they haven’t been able to be on the same page — and I mean the coaches and all offensive players.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 28, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Love that movie
But where am I wrong?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Dec 28, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
wasn't necessarily saying you're wrong
I really just wanted to whip that out…
Moisture is the essense of wetness, and wetness is the essense of beauty.
and honestly....
if you think for a second that a street FA or God help us rookie QB is going to come in and win more than 4 games for this team next year then you haven’t been watching the same Bengals organization as I have for the past 20 years.
Palmer hasn’t been the solution to our problems the way we all hoped when he was drafted, but he hasn’t BEEN the problem either.
Yes and No
I loved the way the whole team looked on Sunday. They looked a lot like the 09’ Bengals. I think Carson is better off with a group of no-name receivers who aren’t demanding the ball every time they come back to the huddle. He just throws the ball to the open man. I think Carson force feed TO too much this year to keep him happy. Also they threw the ball way too much and got away from what made them successful in 09’. At this point in his career Carson is better off in a run heavy offense where he only throws the ball 20 to 25 times a game. The big difference last week is that we didn’t abandon the run when it wasn’t working. This allowed Carson to run play-action and rollouts. I’m not in favor of bringing back either TO or Chad. Their acts have worn thin. It is time to have football players and not entertainers. That being said, I’m not sure that after one good game that Simpson and Caldwell are the answers at WR either. As good as they were last Sunday lets remember that they are playing with fresh legs whereas the guys that are trying to cover them have played a full season. I want to see what these guys perform next preseason when they are being covered by guys as fresh as they are. I’m not saying Sunday was a fluke, but lets keep it in perspective.
But actually if you look back
at the preseason games this year, the same kids were playing and were good and showed it.
+1
If Sunday was a preview of whats to come,I like the product,but I cant see one reason to bring Chad back to stunt the growth another year when hes not gonna be in that plans whatsoever after 2011,those guys have been here 3yrs already,why take another year away from them,to see another year of Chads antics? I dont know about anyone else,but I was very excited watching the Young Guns energy and everyone,I mean everyone including Mikey feeding off it.
+2
I cannot wait to see how the young guns perform Sunday too!!! It is good to be excited about Bengals football again after a miserable season.
+3
Ok then,someone tell me if it wasnt antics of Chad and T O not playing,why that team played so well vs a very good team fighting for a playoff spot playing a team not playing for anything and with 2 WR with no starts?
Carson also got Brady amounts of time in the pocket.
I only saw him force one pass because of the rush.
by Throw the ball on Dec 28, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
for me
I will take a couple young kids, who will give me 100% every play and fail, before I will take a couple vets who give 90%, put up decent numbers and we still fail.
Simpson and Caldwell have more to prove,and want to prove it, than Chad and T.O combined.
I said this in like week 3
completely agree. I’ll take 110% effort over pure talent every day of the week.
by Throw the ball on Dec 28, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Simpson
I felt bad for him and posted about it constantly on here,hes drafted to take Chads spot cause Chads going nuts on the Bengals and does real well in preseason,and onlyyy taught the X spot,so they keep Chad,and hes held back, the next year,Simpson works his butt off to be flanker,looks good in preseason,but the Bengals sign Coles instead,held back again.so we come to this year,everyone says how good Simpson looks in workouts,but the Bengals sign Bryant,then T O,what does the guy gotta do to get a shot,he never goes off,never complains,actually works harder,and lets not forget when Simpson was gonna start in Coles spot,that Carson goes to management and wants Purify to be active instead of Simpson,the guy has paid his dues waiting,its actually the way to build a team,you build on youth to replace the old thru the draft,but you dont see a negative out of Simpson,even after they drafted that many WRs this year and bringing in Bryant and T O,its his time now,and vs a very good corner in Jammer,he showed hes ready to step up.
not just a better O
I thought the problem was the plays inserted for the bobsy twins. Instead of ocho play one or TO play number 5, it was generic out of the playbook play 1 or play 5. The two not being there forced Brats-on-skis to call a better choice of plays. But thinking about the game I changed my mind. Not only the the O do out of this world better but so did the D. and the O-choor do not call the D plays. Palmer was not the only person out there having fun and making plays. The whole team was making plays both O and D. The only explination I can find for this is what ever has been draining the joy out of them in the locker room was not in the locker room.
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Fellow Bengal fans
I’m excited for this weekend. I really hope CP9 can prove me wrong. Obviously I’m the odd man out, because everyone seems to think 81/85 are the problems, and not CP. Agree to disagree and lets regroup and get an AFC north title next season! WHO DEY!!
Hue Jack for head coach
We get similar results against the ravens that we did against the chargers
and I’m sold Palmer is fine
by Throw the ball on Dec 29, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
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