FanHouse Report: Decision On Marvin Lewis Could Come The Week After The Season Ends
We've spoken at length recently that the Cincinnati Bengals could be without a head coach soon, with Marvin Lewis' contract expiring after this season. Check that. After this weekend's season finale against the Baltimore Ravens.
Will Mike Brown capitulate to Lewis' demands, most notably an indoor practice facility and more generally speaking, additional projects and ideas that would modernize the team? Or will Lewis find that he won't be able to progress under this organization and move on? The most telling in all of this is that Lewis is entering the offseason without a contract, which is rare for a head coach and his team if a future is desired by both sides.
Then again, we wrote last week that there's still a pretty good chance that Lewis returns, based on our own speculation. When asked before Cincinnati's upset win over the San Diego Chargers if that would be Lewis' final game at Paul Brown Stadium, Lewis simply said, "I don’t think so. That's not the plan."
Marvin Lewis spoke with FanHouse's Thomas George, saying that plan's immediate future could be determined as soon as next week.
"I think we'll know something there by Monday or Tuesday," Lewis said. "We (he and Bengals owner Mike Brown) talk every day about the future. About the football team, the players and the personnel. We've got to decide how it is going to be. His vision of the football team and mine. There are certain things he wants to emphasize with me. Things that are important to him. I expect to hear those."
Lewis also said that Bengals owner Mike Brown and he will hold a discussion on how to move forward for the future, which could make make Lewis the most critical person in helping shape change for the future of this franchise.
"I probably would be surprised," Lewis said of the notion that Brown might simply, abruptly tell him he was fired. "We planned to talk more about the future after the season was over and that's what's next. I think we all know when you get in this business, there is going to be an end at some point and time. It doesn't have to be negative. You never look back or sideways, you go forward. You learn. You are always talking to the players about preparing for the future, for their last play. It is the same for coaches."
Putting aside your own opinions for a moment and knowing what you know now, do you think Marvin Lewis stays or leaves?
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I think we all know when you get in this business, there is going to be an end at some point and time. It doesn’t have to be negative. You never look back or sideways, you go forward. You learn. You are always talking to the players about preparing for the future, for their last play. It is the same for coaches."
I think this is the most significant part of all this. It basically says I’m going to sit down with his stubborn ass and we will probably not make a deal happen.
He walks
If they were going to do a deal, it would have been done months ago.
I think he stays
and gets some of what he wants (ie: more personnel control, and his choice of OC and coaches) I don’t think he gets the indoor facility, maaaaybe more scouts.
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When asked if he thought Brown would just bluntly tell him he's fired.
“I probably would be surprised,”
This would be the only thing that would indicate your correct except for the word “probably”. “Probably” would indicate to me that he hasn’t got much confidence and he wouldn’t be surprised. I think this part of the interview was just being media friendly and when dissected also indicates he’s leaving.
by JamesShively on Dec 29, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think he walks
I think MB would love to have him back ,but I think Marvin has gotten to the point he realizes he can go no further with the team unless he is given more power.
MB won’t do that.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
Marvin is getting more control is our only hope...
If Marvin leaves, MB will not replace him with a high profile coach because that coach willl not work for MB. Young guys like Harbaugh from Stanford won’t work with him either because Harbaugh has better options. So what type of coach will bite the bullet and work for MB? Someone who previously failed….. Singletary, John Fox, Jim Fassel, Bellick??
Bengals are the worst team in the NFL for the past TWO decades!
If that's the case then give me Dom Capers over any of them.
He seems to have a specialty with expansion teams (since we play like one) and was successful in getting the Panthers off the ground quickly. He’s also a Ohio boy so I think he’d enjoy the opportunity to come in here and make a difference.
by JamesShively on Dec 29, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Capers....
One playoff appearence and a .375 winning percentage.(wikipedia) O god no!
Bengals are the worst team in the NFL for the past TWO decades!
Okay so if your philospy is correct who is better?
They’re all going to be unsuccessful and Dom was never given a roster already stacked with talent like ours. The others have and have failed.
by JamesShively on Dec 29, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
No one!
That is what I am afraid of. If Marvin leaves, we are on the cusp of a 1990’s like Bengal depression.
I want Marvin to stay because MB can’t get anyone better. Maybe Capers could win. He doesn’t seem like a coach who can get us our first playoff win in 20 years.
Any other canidates?…
Bengals are the worst team in the NFL for the past TWO decades!
Personally I wish this meeting was recorded.
His vision of the football team and mine. There are certain things he wants to emphasize with me. Things that are important to him. I expect to hear those."
I would love to hear exactly what Marvins vision is and what the hell Mike is thinking right now.
Heeeerrrrre's Brat
Marvin moves on and Brown’s Butt Buddy BRAT is in. Can everyone say perfect yes man. Makes you want to vomit.
I'm switching up my pick. And it has little to do w/ the back to back wins.
If Marvin wasn’t coming back and MB knew that, Marvin wouldn’t be coach today. Wouldn’t have cost Mike a dime to promote Zimmer or Bratkowski for the rest of the year 5 weeks ago when I thought it was going to happen.
He didn’t, and the only good reason to not do so was b/c he wasn’t sure what he was going to do about the coaching position. Throw in this 3 game winning streak to end the year including back to back wins against pretty good teams, and Marvin’s likely proclivity to fold on some issues (I think Marvin’s statements indicate more of a game of chicken then anything else), and Marvin stays. My problem w/ this is that it also seems that Brat will be staying. I’m not for that, but if Marvin and Brat are here then it’s much more likely J-Jo, Palmer, and Benson return. And while I’m not the biggest Benson fan, I think they can win w/ him.
So basically, I think Marvin will push for as much control as possible, but will back down to anything MB isn’t going to give on. Nobody’s giving Marvin a head coaching gig next year, and I don’t think Marvin’s stupid. He recognizes the young talent and the schedule next year. He’ll be back if MB gives him any chance to come back, which it appears that he will.
I actually think that we will get another OC
I think that Brat will be promoted within the FO to help Katie and coaches with player personnel. He’s actually good at spotting talent. Oh shit! Did i say that Brat was good at something…
I agree with everything else you have said.
Brat is actually good at spotting talent??
Link? Book? Article? Anything to prove this crap. He cant design plays for who he has now? Playing them out of position; ie: Gresham, no (REAL) fullback etc, etc,etc, I just dont see that Brat can judge talent.
by James Schmid the great on Dec 29, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
As long as he's not OC
I could live with it.
by BonnieBengal on Dec 30, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Do you mean like Jerome Simpson playing right away? Trading back two places to get Chris Perry instead of Stephen Jackson? Andre smith? Peter warrick? Jerome Simpson over desean Jackson?
Where is he good at identifying talent?
by ddbumpus on Dec 29, 2010 10:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Chad, TJ, Whit, Walter, Steinbach and others
Carson was a no brainer but was still a pick that was in his tenure. Simpson hadn’t got on the field b/c of Marvin or b/c of unknown circumstances. If he does pan out to be a great WR then of course he’d be in that list. And although everyone thinks Chris Perry was a bust you could blame a lot of what goes on to Mike Browns crack medical staff. Injuries don’t make a player a bust. (And there were a lot of injuries that have ended careers here in Cinci, speculating the medical staffs is at fault b/c miss diagnoses.) A persons inability to learn and make plays makes them a bust. (See Akili Smith) Also, Brats incompetency of being a true OC doesn’t help any players either. (You said that) MB trusts Brat a lot, hence that’s why he’s here still. I would assume that is why he’s staying, like him or not, MB does…
It sad
That only 1 of the 5 players are a lock to be on the team next year, and 3 out of 5 are doing something elsewhere.
It seems we’re better at picking out diamonds in the rough rather than supposed sure things in our 1st round picks. It kind of sucks!
We have a 3-game winning streak?
Awesome! How badly did we beat the Ravens?
Lewis to be offered GM role to cost up to Mike who retains some sort of say...
…New Head Coach to be appointed from outside. Zimmer retained as DC. Brat fired as OC.
They were strong tea leaves!
by wiseking on Dec 30, 2010 11:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions
MB is the boss
But as a fan I don’t want to give a sub .500 coach a new contract. I’d like to see someone else at the helm. Brat absolutely must go as OC. Why not promote Zim to head coach? This solves MB’s power issues. I would not expect Z to be much better than Lebeau was, but who knows? MINIMUM I would accept as a fan, is a new OC, if MB were to keep Coach Lewis. We were close to losing the ‘BUngles’ moniker, thanks largely to Coach Lewis, but this year has seen it return with a vengeance. I want to be alive to see the Bengals win a Super Bowl. A dynasty would be nice, but I would be happy with a fluke. A .500 record or less, doesn’t even get you a ticket to the dance, so to speak. So MB please, whatever it takes. Indoor practice facilities, and more scouts seem like a good idea, regardless of coaching changes. Nice draft last year, and a decent free agency. Do that again. And let’s hope this is the last year I have to go into a room and sheepishly say, “haha, I’m a Bungles fan!” The dynasty begins when Mike Brown decides to make it happen. Not the Brown family dynasty, which regardless of Mike will be at least three generations long but the Bengals dynasty. Perhaps 2011. Call Bill Cowher and ask ‘How much to return and coach our team?’ Then spend whatever you have to, lol. But the statement does make my point.
GO BENGALS! Beat the Ravens!
God bless and keep all of Bengal nation, and our Nouveau Dynasty healthy!
Doean't matter who
I don’t see the upside in changing coaches . A new coach will have no power and thus will be as handcuffed a Marvin is. I bet Marvin would love a new OC,but he can’t control that. With no control over that aspect then nothing will change. Thus we would be right back to square one!
"Next season will be better" circa 1990

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