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Marvin Lewis: Carson Palmer Doesn't Need To Worry About Calling Time Outs

The use of the team's final timeout against the New Orleans Saints has come under a lot of scrutiny during the past few days. With 22 seconds left in the game, a four-point deficit and 51 yards to win the game, Carson Palmer connected with Brian Leonard on a 14-yard screen pass. With direction to spike the football, rather than using their final timeout, Palmer brought the offense to the line. As they were still lining up, the Bengals finally called a timeout with eight seconds left in the game, watching between 7-8 seconds tick needlessly away.

Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis called in at Dickmann's during Bengals Line on Monday Night. Lance McAlister asked the reasonable question, "Coach, is it reasonable then for fans to wonder how a quarterback in his eighth year who is the face of the franchise making $100 million, doesn't call timeouts?"

"Because he doesn't need to worry about that," replied Lewis. "He needs to go on to the next play because he's directing guys to get lined up. And for him to have to worry about 'do I need to call a timeout or not' he's not looking at the entire picture of that whole situation. There's a lot more into it than that and that's the way we've always practiced it and that's the way we go about it and frankly, that's the way every team in the NFL goes about it."

The question before, Lance asked if the coaches have always been the ones that called timeouts. "That's always been the case, yea," said Lewis. "Coaches can call timeouts, so it's much easier for him not to worry about that. We'll give him direction of, as we told him as we went in, anything in bounds we want to clock it so we can maintain the timeout and the opportunity to get the next play off."

Dave Lapham followed up the questions about timeouts about the fact that there was only one left. "When you talk about timeouts," Lapham said, "I know that you probably wish that there were others that you could of had at the end of the football game and for various reasons they weren't available to you. That had to be frustration."

"Well, they weren't available and that's part of it, Dave," said Lewis. "They were used at other points in the game to get other things done and straightened out. That's part of the game."

Lewis has said this week that the lack of timeouts was mostly substitution issues. However, not allowing your quarterback to call a timeout because he's already tasked with lining everyone up is borderline absurd. Maybe we were wrong. Maybe Palmer's issue isn't one of leadership. Maybe Willie Anderson was right when he said: "A lot of time leaders on those teams were told to stand down and down get on certain players becuz it would mess up Chemistry!"

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If your QB doesn't need to worry about that

then why don’t you put in an Android QB who has no brains and just throws with a mechanical arm, which by the way would perform much better than our current QB.

What do you do when there's no way out? Find a way to get deeper in it.

by jimbasa on Dec 7, 2010 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly!

Yeahhh…I’m gonna have to go ahead and…disagree with you there, Marvin…

I don’t think a certain Sony and MasterCard spokesman has to get on the horn with Tom Moore to ask if it’s okay to call timeout on the field. Doesn’t need to worry about that? Sometimes I think the players on the field have a better idea of clock management than the coaches on the sidelines do!

by TheWalrus1971 on Dec 7, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

at least the coaches on the Bengal's sideline

"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski

by featherman on Dec 7, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Lewis needs to go

I started to fall out of love with the players like palmer and chad this season because I thought they were the problem. But over the last few weeks after hearing about play calling problems, coaches not listening, and a QB not needing to call time outs, It shows more then ever that lewis is shit coach and his staff and him must go. tell me of another coach that doesn’t want his QB to call a TO. What a joke. He is making a fool of himself.
I bet it was palmers idea to get chad more involved in the second half not brats and look how well that worked out. I bring up the no huddle again, palmer can run that so he must be able to run a game. Why not give him freedom to have input manage a game.
The staff has to go and chad and palmer are not the big problems we thought they were at the start of this streak.

by BigJungle on Dec 7, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

this whole time out issue is a coaching problem

Sorry for all the Palmer haters out there, but you can’t hang this on him. Clock management has been a consistent issue since Marvin and Brat started here and unfortunately they’ve just failed to get it straightened out.

Go back and watch earlier in the game when Carson wanted to hurry to the line for a third down play and they called a time out from the sidelines instead because of a substitution error. Palmer was visibly PO’d as he walked to the sideline and then, what do you know, they end up false starting when they do snap the ball.

A lot of this comes down to sideline communication issues pre-snap, its why they are always late getting to the line and then running out of time calling protections,etc.

I love a lot about Lewis but at the end of the day this is a coaching failure by both him and Brat.

by swebbIL on Dec 7, 2010 2:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

True

Bratkowski is the main problem offensively, but Marvin is at fault as well.

I can’t really blame Marvin though because he delivered the goods in 2009 and made some demands for his contract extension so that he could do better than 10-6, presumably more scouts, control of coaching personnel, an indoor practice facility and more. He has shown his ability to motivate and build a winning team twice already despite massive obstacles and so asked Mike Brown to remove some of those obstacles for him to continue to succeed. The fact that Mike Brown didn’t acquiesce to those demands in the offseason was a show of bad faith and a lack of commitment to Marvin and to winning. After all he’s done for this team it’s got to be depressing to see Mike Brown stall on this constantly throughout the season. It’s an unnecessary distraction for everyone and yet another example of the futility of hope under the management of Mike Brown.

by Alex Marshall on Dec 7, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep Marvin under two conditions.

He gets what he demands in more scouts, better facilities,and personnel control.
As he gains responsibilities in those areas we ask for in trade that he give up control of timeouts to someone who has and idea of clock management. Also he must give up control of that little red flag you throw when you disagree with the refs:)

by JamesShively on Dec 7, 2010 5:03 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That little red flag is

b/c Brat can’t see the freakin play right on TV. If you noticed it takes him the same amount of time to tell Marvin to throw it or not, as to the same amount of time that Brat finally calls down a play to Carson. Always to late and wrong.

by WHYUS!! on Dec 7, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

player told to stand down becouse of chemistry problems?

yeah becouse the colts, pats, ravens, steelers all have chemistry problems huh. Maybe its just the bengals leadership ( or lack there of ) starts with the owner and shit rolls downhill. Maybe they should not even have team captains for crying out loud.

by bengalinflorida on Dec 7, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

If Carson doesn't need to worry about calling timeouts,

are you proclaiming yourself as the idiot Marvin?

MIKE BROWN STEP DOWN!!!

by D-Day77 on Dec 8, 2010 2:07 AM EST reply actions  

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