Question of the Day: What position should the Bengals draft?
One of our projects recently was to react to Mocking the Draft's first round selection for our respective teams. MtD picked tight end Jermaine Gresham. Our task was to write up why this is a good selection for the Bengals, how he fits with the team and alternative players or positions. This, of course, got me thinking. If the Bengals elect to look over tight ends in the first round, which I believe is far more likely than not, what position would the Bengals address?
Would they simply just draft the best player available, regardless of position? Or would they draft someone in a position that's in dire need for an injection of talent?
While answering all of the questions, I wanted to present to you the question of the day. This isn't about what you think the Bengals will do, rather what position do you think the Bengals should draft this year?
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i chose d-line for a few reasons
1. i think a good DT or DE is going to fall to us and be the best player available when we pick
2. we need more depth there so that at the end of the season we aren’t just sticking bodies like orien harris and frostee rucker in the fold
3. i don’t want to give gresham 1st rd money if he has so many health questions
4. i think all the good safeties will be gone
5. i think the only true 1st rd receiver (dez bryant) will be gone and we would be reaching to take anyone else
6. o-line could be there but see no. 1
7. boobs
Sonny my pitched my wild
Especially the "boobs" part.
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by KentuckianaBrowncoat on Feb 23, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
didnt they go this route last year
with the drafting of Andre???
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Feb 23, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
lol
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by Josh Kirkendall on Feb 23, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
add to the fact that...
our pass rush needs help… and our big 3 interior guys got a whole 2.5 sacks for the entire year combined… 2nd worst in 4-3 teams by only .5 sack to the 1-15 rams… and we only have 2 pairs of boobs signed right now, we need 4 pairs
I agree. Although I am on record as liking A. Benn with the pick , taking the 330lb DT from Tennessee (Williams?) or DE Brandon Graham would suit me just fine. If they do go a pass catching position, I would like see it be one of the high ranking big bodied play making WRs. Benn or Demaryius Thomas – skillwise is the closest player to Chris Henry in the draft and at 6’3’’ 225 is a big boy at WR
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Feb 23, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
not Benn at 21
that would be a reach
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 23, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I go with Best Player Available
The Bengals had a pretty good year last year and should continue to build a foundation by getting the best player out there, besides quarterback or running back.
Wide receivers are too risky and the only tight end worthy of being picked in the first round didnt play last year and has had health problems. Dez Bryant might be worthy of the 24th pick, but I would rather see them keep building a foundation rather than getting a possible play maker.
I would love to get D line, I liked everything GrooveLeg had to say except that I think there will be a safety available at the time the Bengals pick. I just dont think they are worth first round picks.
Building up our offensive line wouldnt be a bad idea either, especially if Bobby Williams leaves. I dont think Whitt is the answer at Left Guard.
I agree… maybe gilyard will be available in round 2… and we still have the chance to sign TO
by tim-from-germany on Feb 23, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
everything looks set up to sign TO. I do not think the Bengals will draft a WR to start right away. Guard, DE, DT or S seem more likely. I do think that they will draft a WR early, but will be # 3 at best, and 4 is more likely.
Also don’t over look RB. Benson is only signed for 1 more year, and Bernard Scott’s main contribution is returning kicks. The Bengals could take a 1st round RB to back-up Benson, and be prepared to take over.
I think the only TE the Bengals would draft high is Moeaki from Iowa. One scenario I see is the Bengals trading back with SD, who wants a good RB, and taking Moeaki, who looks to be the closest TE to starting for the Bengals. The Bengals have a project TE (Coffman) and a back-up TE (Foshi) pplus depth on the Street to sign incase of Injury (Coats) The Bengals will most likely sign Reggie Kelly or someone else (Ben Watson) to start.
i'm not against that to be honest.
i could see jahvid best or jonathan dwyer being there when we pick. i think i like that idea.
only if there isn’t a good DL though… :)
Sonny my pitched my wild
Position of need
Safety is probably our biggest hole on defense unless R. Williams can stay healthy. If there’s nobody left at safety though worthy of a first rounder, then I agree with Grooveleg, and say that I’d rather go for a DT or maybe a solid DE. If there isn’t anybody solid at DT or DE left, then I’d look at Offensive lineman.
This is our year!
unless of course
Mike Brown wants to spend franchise money on J Peppers.
yes, that was a joke.
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on Feb 23, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
TE
TE is clearly our biggest position of need. The only TE we have under contract is Chase “Never seen a down in the NFL unless its lying face down” Coffman. (I need to shorten that nickname somehow…).
where are all the genius' that want a WR??
hey, if were lucky maybe he’ll be as good as Heyward Bey.. cmon people.. it takes WR’s way to long to develop, we need impact players who can play now. We can pick up WR’s in the later rounds.
Best defensive player on the board..
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Feb 23, 2010 11:09 AM EST reply actions
Honestly
I think it just proves that we’re not exactly sure what the Bengals will do. It wasn’t like last year where the consensus was offensive line. Now we could make an argument for several positions.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Feb 23, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Feb 23, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Six WRs were drafted in Round 1 last year
Crabtree, Maclin, Harvin, Nicks, and Britt were all more productive than the Bengals second leading pass catcher. According to most draft analysts, DHB didn’t have a first round grade and everyone except Al Davis thought it was foolish to draft him in the position he was drafted in.
Going back the last few years, rookie WRs are much more productive coming into the league now that they ever were, including Calvin Johnson, Dewayne Bowe, Santonio Holmes, and Roddy White are all examples. The common denominator of the first round guys who have not been as successful is they are all speed guys who wowed at the combine and really never had the resume of a guy who could make a big catch or at least a polished college WR. DHB, Craig Davis, Ted Ginn, Troy Williamson, and Matt Jones are all included in this grouping. Jones actually caught 5 TDs as a rookie with 36 catches. Braylon Edwards just flat out couldn’t consistently make the routine catch in college and this has translated to the NFL, so his pick of #3 overall has always eluded me.
I’m not dead set on a WR with the first round pick, but recent history has shown the guys at the top of the draft (who arent head scratching draft picks – Mike Williams, Ginn, Williamson, DHB) come in and contribute right away.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Feb 23, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Desean Jackson
great rookie
CB85......Collaros for Heisman
by TennBengalfan on Feb 23, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know who is winning the poll..
which is why I called all the WR guys out, no body was explaining their choice. So if I understand you point right, we are putting faith in Mikey Boy to draft a WR in round one who will produce like some of the picks in recent years.. Riiight. We have done such a terrific job drafting WR’s in the past few years I don’t know what could go wrong. Oh wait..
I can see as early as round two, but I still gotta say best defensive player available or a beastly O-line guy who has fallen to us..
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Feb 23, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Why I would take a WR
While I don’t disagree that adding a DL, DB, or an OL in round one would be smart, my feelings are that adding a big bodied, fast play making receiver would give the biggest boost to the offense next season. Let’s take Demaryius Thomas and plug him into what Cincy currently has. Thomas’s skill set is similar to what Chris Henry’s was in that he can make plays deep, plus Thomas is a bigger body. It gives the offense a dynamic that will help get it to the next level sooner. Beyond the top few draft eligible guys, there are not a lot of taller playmaking WR’s that offer this dynamic. Also, looking forward 3-4 years, this guy may be the top WR on the team with other guys getting older or moving on in the league and that has to be considered.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Feb 23, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Six WRs were drafted in Round 1 last year all more productive than the Bengals second leading pass catcher.
Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline, Mohammed Massaqui, Austin Collie, Johnny Knox and Luis Murphy were also as productive and taken after the first round. There are a lot of recievers who can contribute right away, and Coles while being a year older will have a yera more player with Palmer, Caldwell is progressing. We have guys who can contribute, what we need is a down field threat. I would prefer Cartlon Mitchell in the THird round coming in to take Chris Henry’s place to Tate, Gilyard, or shipley coming in to fill the same role as COles, Caldwell and Cosby.
Well said
If I was being picky, I would say that we need to find a free agent WR instead of drafting one.
I don’t think we fill any need by drafting somebody to fill the same role as 3 or 4 guys on this roster already do (Cosby, Coles, Caldwell). If there is a pure deep threat in the draft then take him.
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on Feb 23, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
you really want to draft an injured WR in round one?
who is this? Mike Brown?
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Feb 24, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
AFC North
Bengals need to draft a safety. I’m all for giving Carson weapons, but I think we can address that in the later rounds. If you look at our division, Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu directly contribute to the success of those two franchises. If we are going to be consistent and also be a force in our division we’re going to have to compete at the safety position.
I don’t know about drafting a TE. Brat has never really utilized TEs in his play calling (hell he doesn’t even have his receivers run a slant or a screen) in years past.
I’m not opposed to drafting a DE, but they need to do their homework and draft a play maker.
by sgiridharan1982 on Feb 23, 2010 11:18 AM EST reply actions
Safety
I do think the Bengals need a safety, but I am not sold on it as a first round need, but rather a need in the 1st 3 rounds.
Ill only take Earl Thomas at 21
nobody else is worth it
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by Joe Goodberry on Feb 23, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Best defensive player available
The Bengals need to draft the best defensive player available because it seems that defensive players can make an immediate impact and offensive players take time to transition to the NFL. If Earl Thomas from Texas is available when Cincy picks then he should be the guy. He is the cover Safety that Zimmer talked about looking for in the last draft. If he is gone then Brandon Graham would be a good selection. Marvin has tried to use the hybrid/lb before and I think Graham is perfect for this role. He could play strong side lb on the first and second down and then move to the DE spot to rush the QB in passing downs. I live in Ann Arbor and have watched this guy for a few years. Despite being on a pathetic defense he was always making plays and was constantly in the back field and he has motor that doesn’t stop. If he too is gone then possibly Dan Williams Tennessee or a DE, I just have a feeling that the top DE’s in this draft will be underachievers. I wouldn’t be to upset if Gresham was the pick but I think TE and WR should be addressed via free agency.
by The Natti Daddi on Feb 23, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions
I chose offensive line
Maybe I’m stuck in the 90’s/early 2000’s still but I really want the bengals to solidify the offensive line. If we could give Palmer (and for that matter whoever takes over for him in a few years) enough time to throw, any receiver would be open. I also thought of choosing a defensive lineman/passrusher because as long as the nfl has been around, if you can control the line of scrimmage you can win.
NO TE
I think a TE in the 1st round is a waste. Gresham has already torn an ACL in high school and sat out all last year. Get a Safety or a good defensive player. It’s as simple as that.
Doc, have you been reading my posts? Welcome to my position. LOL
Other than QB the Oline strength is the biggest common detonator in winning football. If you have a strong Oline keep it intact and shore it up. If you don’t build it until it is strong. Iutapi is my first choice because I think Chase is going to come into his own this year. I would look to FA for the stretch the field WR as long as he is big, fast and sure handed with plenty of tread n the tires. Go someone like Shipley in the 2nd for the slot, Caldwell is a pedestrian receiver with questionable ball security and safety in the 3rd. Go BPA for the rest of the draft and hope to find a couple of gems in WR or D. Stronger Oline means more time and comfort for Carson and that gives the WRs time to get open and that means improved downfield production. Chase and Shipley (or McCluster) will give Carson 2 additional receivers who can catch the ball.
People are giving up on Chase a bit too early. He was a project from the start as Kely and Utech were supposed to be there . He had an injury coming into TC and should be completely healthy this year. People forget how good he was in college. Hard Knocks gave everyone an unfair impression of him. There is more than one way to free up Chad. A good possession receiver who won’t give up the rock can do that and Shipley is a definite Welker type. TJ seldon went deep but he drew enough attention to free up Chad. Shipley can do the same thing but he is more elusive and wil out perform TJ in YAC. That is two additional prime dependable receivers for Carson.
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by JUNGLEJOHN on Feb 23, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
completely agree
I still say that carson was rushed to throw all year long and solving that problem would have solved our “passing problems”, I’m with you JungleJohn
you do know...
1. the saying is Defense wins championships… not Offense wins championships
2. I am a big believer in your lines are your foundations but there is a reason that guards and centers are damn near never drafted in the first….
3. our run blocking was excellent and our pass blocking was average… a healthy Andre Smith upgrades the pass protection (more so than Iupati would)
4. Our head coach said the three main priorities this offseason are… stopping the big plays on defense, improving our pass rush and improving the passing game… He never once said anything about the line, it was all about “putting weapons around Carson” and "taking shots down field… picking Iupati doesn’t help any of those 3
5. Iupatis strength is run blocking, he actually had a mediocre showing pass blocking-wise at the Senior Bowl because of his problems in pass blocking… run blocking is waaay down the list of needing help
I think Iupati will be at minimum a solid starter but if B. Williams resigns they he isn’t even going to get significant palying time… We need help now, not later
I agree with point 3
Which is why i doubt that M. Lewis will go for a O lineman in rounds 1-3. Remember that last year almost all of the pressure came from the right side, where Andre will be lining up. Whit gave up like… 1.5 sacks last year?
Draft trends
Marvin has drafted players in the first round who are expected to start early. He has never had a receiver start early barring injury, nor a TE. The Bengals are very willing to start a guard or tackle very early. A guy to watch is Bulaga from Iowa or Iupati, who can start at left guard but can back-up left tackle, as Whitworth and Steinbech did.
The positions at which the Bengals can most improve are Guard, TE, Safety and WR. SInce those are the areas which can be most imporved, and are therfore most likely to start early, and the Bengals will not start a young WR and probably TE, I see a Guard as the most likely with Safety second.
LB is a possiblity as well
A LB to replace either Maulga at SLB (if he moves to the mid) or Jones is a real possiblity as well.
if u r looking for someone to give palmer more time to pass liupati is the wrong man for the job and that was clearly shown in the senior bowl the potential is there but if u want a true pass blocker for palmer look at guard vladimir ducasse from massachusetts and he could maybe even be there in the 2nd rd in which we could draft someone else in the 1st rd like demariyus thomas or earl thomas
DRAFT
I GOT A FEELING DENVER IS GOING AFTER A QB WITH THERE PICK. IF THIS HAPPENS THEN DEZ BRYANT COULD FALL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO US AT #21. BRYANT HAS THE DOWNFIELD SPEED AND ALSO IS A GOOD RETURN MAN. HE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. BUT IM WITH THE REST OF YOU, IF HE’S GONE I THINK WE GO DEFENSIVE OR OFFENSIVE LINE.. GUYS LIKE DE/LB B.GRAHAM MICH , DE E.GRIFFEN USC, LB/DE S.KINDLE TEXAS, DT J. ODRICK PENN ST, DE C.WOOTEN OF NORTHWESTERN AND OFFENSIVE LINEMEN LIKE G/T M.LUPATI IDAHO, OT B.CAMPBELL MARYLAND AND THE ONLY OTHER WR THAT MAY BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE IN THE FIRST RD IS D.THOMAS FROM GOERGIA TECH. NOW WITH HIS FOOT INJURY WHO KNOWS. I THINK DT D.WILLIAMS WILL BE GONE BECAUSE HE IS TOO GOOD VS THE RUN AND HE’S 330 LBS. I HERE MIAMI HAS AN EYE FOR HIM AT #12. TAKING A G OR T WOULD BE FINE WITH ME. I THINK WE DEFINATLY NEED A LEFT GAURD BUT UNLESS IT’S LUPATI NOT IN THE FURST ROUND. SO IF WE TAKE A TACKLE THEN WE MOVE WHIT BACK TO LEFT GAURD. WE NEED TO FIX OUR LINE AND ADD DEPTH. PASS PROTECTION WAS NOT GOOD AND ROLAND COULDN’T PASS BLOCK MY GRANDMOTHER SO LETS HOPE SMITH STEPS UP THIS YEAR.
BPA
The Bengals are in a really good position to draft the best player available. We have a solid team across the board with few gaping holes. We need to look at the draft not as a way to fill immediate needs but as a way to build a strong team into the future.
One thing that is important to understand is that first round draft picks are hardly a sure thing. Bengals fans should know this more than anyone—therefore drafting for position rather than talent is hamstringing yourself on the hope that a 22 year old can turn the team around and raises the potential of passing on more talented guys that could really help the team in the future.
Regarding Gresham. I wouldn’t be upset if the Bengals drafted him, but I don’t think its really the right move. We drafted a TE last year in the 3rd round. Unless there is a real reason to believe that he won’t be NFL ready this year, he is our future starter. Drafting Gresham, a guy that missed his entire senior year with an injury, and expecting him to step into a starting role is a little quixotic. And worst case scenario, neither Gersham or Coffman are ready and we end up like we were last year. For that reason, I say we pass on Gresham and sign a veteran TE to split time with Coffman as he gets up to speed.
Early in the draft, the Bengals do need to address the positon of DT and Safety (not necessarily first round, but first day). At both positions we need depth and need to prepare for the future changing of the guard.
Should the Bengals draft an offensive lineman? Yes, the Bengals should always draft an offensive lineman. Mid round pick and develop him. Right now I think our starting line will be Whit, Mathis, Cook (Luigs as a darkhorse), Collins and Smith. Exactly where they will be playing I’m not sure, but those are our best guys in my opinion. (Assuming Williams goes).
Should we draft a WR? By all means, the Bengals should always draft WRs. I don’t think it makes sense to force it in the first round, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see one selected in the 2-4 round.
Running Back. Honestly, I say yes if one is available and seems like a bargain. I’ve said before, in the unlikely scenario that Spiller is available, the Bengals would be insane to pass on him. The Bengals need playmakers on offense—position is less relevant. Personally, I would like to see the Bengals draft a speedster RB, cut Jeremi Johnson, and simply go without a FB. We can use Foschi, Roland, Leonard or Coats as an H-Back if we need an extra body in the backfield.
please don't mention Coats as a possibility for anything
by smoormandiddy on Feb 24, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Coats will be good for the team next year
Like Shaun Smith this year it gives us a guy on the street wwho knows the offense and could be brought back on a moments notice to play next week. Kind of like a practice squad player that doesn’t take a PS slot.
The thing with coats is...
…they were converting him to H-Back last year then all of a sudden he was our first string TE. I don’t mind having him back if he is going to be H-Back and a third string TE. We just have to make sure that we have a veteran starter and Coffman in front of him on the depth chart.
best player available and consider character
and let’s hope they highly consider a character guy and not a risk. rey slipped to the 2nd round last year for a reason…other teams knew he wasnt done partying.
i want a guy that wants to play football and make it his career, not his means of living the high life.
Pass Protection is key
If you want a pass threat we need to buy Carson outstanding time.. Teams with highly successful passing games give there QB’s extraordinary time.
Carson needs time in the pocket and a few Wr
It seems the recipe for having a good offense is the o-line…grab a guard with the first pick(get t.o. for cheap) and a wideout, te, and S can come after.

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