Open Thread: Super Bowl. Saints vs. Colts

by Josh Kirkendall on Feb 7, 2010 2:37 PM EST

Welcome to the Cincy Jungle Super Bowl open thread. That's right. The final game-related open thread of the 2009 NFL season. What's this mean? Anything, really. We're all friends. So talk about the game. Talk about commercials. Talk about the Bengals. Talk about Jack Bauer, Joseph Adama, Jacob or whatever you want. Today is the final NFL game of the year, so let's go out with a bang. Check out SB Nation's coverage of the Super Bowl. If you want to talk to Colts fans, head to Stampede Blue. Want to talk to Saints fans, head to Canal Street Chronicles.

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your SB Menu?

Buffalo wings, Nachos w/Chili Cheese dip, and mini sausages
Drinking Miller Lites

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Feb 7, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions

skyline dip

for starters…then a nice salad….then new york strip with baked potato

by Howie Feltersnatch on Feb 7, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

skyline dip…….why you do this to me? I have only 3 cans left of skyline before I can get back to Cincy

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Feb 8, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions

Sam Adams Winter Lager

Who’s everyone rooting for? I wanna see the Saints take it.

by Jaegner on Feb 7, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions

pulling for the 'aints

but mostly want to get some dough from this office pool :)

by Howie Feltersnatch on Feb 7, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions

I'm at work!

But when I get home I’m going to make something tasty. I just haven’t decided on what yet…

by jsl413 on Feb 7, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions

Wow

That Colston drop was embarrassing.

by Jaegner on Feb 7, 2010 6:52 PM EST reply actions

Sean Payton is awesome! Onside kick against Manning takes guts.

Hope Marvin Lewis was watching and seeing a team play to win, rather than not to lose.

by Mike Boyd on Feb 7, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions

NO KIDDING. Man, I love Sean Payton anyway, but Marvin and Sean are friends. Please let this be a lesson to the entire Bengals coaching staff.

by FriarBob on Feb 7, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions

really?

the onside kick has about 4-1 odds against. It worked this time, but you know what they say about the sunshine and a dog’s ass. You really want the Bengals to take a cue from a team doing an extremely low percentage play with a potential for HUGE downside in field position when they’re only down by 4 and there’s 30 minutes left on the clock?

Like I said, it worked this time, but that doesn’t make it a good play.

by indesignkat on Feb 8, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions

Actually...

AdvancedNFLStats reports that about 60% of unexpected onside kicks are successful. (Remember the Dallas game last year?)

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/09/onside-kicks.html

by Todd G on Feb 8, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions

Even IF you were right about it being 20% chance, it would STILL be worth it. Why? “YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.”

You have to take at least SOME chances. And of course you have to get lucky on some of them as well. But you still have to have the guts to take a few.

Add in the fact that you are NOT right about it being 20% odds (as Todd points out), and yeah I do want them taking a cue from him. Not on boneheaded no-chance plays of course. But smart gambling, which for all his reputation is really far more what Sean does, yeah I very much do.

by FriarBob on Feb 8, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions

Also, Payton claims that, in his film study, he had noticed a specific tendency of two members of the Indy return team to “jump” the kick and start running back early, and so was trying to take advantage of a specific weakness beyond the element of surprise.

by Todd G on Feb 8, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions

And if you go back and watch the replays (gotta love GameRewind for this if nothing else), you can see that they did start moving back on cue this time as well. And those lost 5 yards were too much to overcome when trying to go back to get the ball.

Add in that A) the guy had pretty much all year long kicked nothing but deep right kicks yet here they kick short and left, and B) that in his entire year (which also happens to have been his entire pro career) he had never attempted a single onside kick, and the odds of success go up even higher.

by FriarBob on Feb 8, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions