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Which Tight End should the Bengals draft?

Last season was a pleasant surprise in which the Bengals were able to not only make the playoffs, but win a second division title in five years.  Despite the surprising season, a growing concern surfaced at the Tight End position.  It started during training camp when Reggie Kelly and Ben Utecht went out with injuries and Chase Coffman had troubles learning the offense leading to poor performance during the preseason, leaving Dan "lead hands" Coats and J.P. Foschi to man the position.

Heading into this off-season, it was felt that the Bengals would address the situation by either signing a free agent or grabbing a tight end in the draft.  The Bengals felt that despite Coats' inability to catch and hold onto the ball, he was worth of another year in burnt orange and black stripes.  Realizing that this did not solve the problem, they are reportedly mulling re-signing J.P. Foschi who would actually be an improvement over Coats.  There is now much speculation that they will use a high draft pick on a tight end to help the situation and several potential players have been mentioned.  If they do decide to draft a tight end, who should it be and which round of the draft?

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Many prognosticators have indicated that the Bengals will select Jermaine Gresham from Oklahoma who missed all of his senior season due to injury.  He is known as a pass catching tight end and had a breakout season in 2008 finishing with 66 catches for 950 yards and 14 touchdowns.   At six feet six inches tall and 261 pounds, this would make him a viable target in the red zone.  Are the Bengals willing to change their philosophy for a position which they consider to be more important for its blocking than its receiving, however?

Florida Tight End Aaron Hernandez was selected as a first team All-American last season and become the first SEC tight end to win the John Mackey Award, given annually to the nation's top tight end.  He decided to forego his senior season after leading all tight ends in the nation with 68 catches, 850 yards and five touchdowns.  At 6-2, 238 lbs, he is one of the smaller tight ends in this year's draft but he also possesses the speed to be a deep threat with a 4.5 40 yard dash time as well the athleticism to make people miss.   Like a number of pass catching tight ends, his weakness is blocking.  Jordan Palmer, who works out with Hernandez in SoCal says "He's freaky. This guy has great yards-after-catch ability.  He's a better Kellen Winslow [Jr.]. The problem is he's never blocked in his life."

Another tight end that has the Bengals eye is Anthony McCoy of USC.  He was named Honorable Mention All-PAC 10 the past two seasons and led all tight ends in yards per catch with an average of 20.8.  He finished his senior season with 20 catches for 450 yards and one touchdown.   His overall strength is blocking, which has always been a requirement for Bengals' Tight Ends.  What may hamper him is that he is considered to lack elusiveness and to have average speed and quickness.  His 4.72 time in the 40 may not seem like a threat to stretch the field, but he is considered a good route runner and runs hard after the catch.  His durability could be called into question as he spent time on the injured list during his college career with ankle and hamstring injuries.

These are the tight ends that have been mentioned by the Bengals as interests.  Each player has pros and cons.  So now it is draft day and one of the team's goals is upgrading the tight end position.  Since I now bestow the position of General Manager upon you, I ask who do you select and how do you go about that selection?  Do you sacrifice blocking skills for a pass catching tight end even though Chase Coffman was drafted a year ago, or do you select a tight end for his blocking skills that may not be able to catch and run, a la Coats. 

Do you continue to work the free agency market, making a trade for a tight end?  The position demands a balanced skill set of a blocker and a receiver, which is hard to come by.  Few players clearly possess a balance of both skills.

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It needs to be addressed in the first 3 rounds

If its in the first – Gresham
If its in the 2nd – McCoy
If its in the 3rd – Jimmy Graham

by Jaydolla on Mar 17, 2010 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

McCoy

Without a doubt. There should be better choices than Gresham in the first, and we need a TE who can block. If they do actually change the offense up to incorporate a pass catching TE more, well, we’ve got a guy for that already. Aaron Hernandez would just be duplicating effort.

by Jaegner on Mar 17, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

agreed on all points.

This is our year!

by Carsonorbust on Mar 18, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, me too

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by GrooveLeg on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

2nd rd that is.

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by GrooveLeg on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definately agree.

We need someone who can block. If the tight end is catching passes, it is usually on the option, so we need someone with the ability to catch short passes and not fumble the ball away. We don’t really need a downfield guy as our TE. That’s why we have recievers.

Look at Dallas Clark. Indy never lines him up as a blocker. If he is on the field, everyone knows he is running a route. They aren’t fooling anyone, and neither would we.

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by kazahani2 on Mar 22, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a 58 Olds that needs an overhaul I’d sell real cheap. But getting back to the TE question. We drafted our TE last year. For the life of me I don’t understand why they didn’t/don’t trade for a TE. Last September NE had Dave Thomas available. NO traded a #5 pick for him. Good blocker and can catch. He helped them make it to the Super Bowl. The Bengals were high on AFasano. Dallas took him just ahead of CB in round 2. Tuna left for Miami. Traded a #4 pick for him. He’s a restricted FA but I bet Miami would trade him for a 4-5th round pick. That would be the safe way to solve the problem.He can block and he’s a decent reciever. He’s only 26.They can still develop Coffman.

by redberkey on Mar 17, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Signing Foschi

Can someone tell me why they haven’t resigned Foschi but have resigned Coats. This doesn’t at all make sense. Foschi beat out Coats last season and did pretty well. I wouldn’t mind seeing him and Reggie play together.

by benbengals on Mar 17, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I can think of a few reasons

Coats had fewer options to explore, so he was easier to sign at a reduced salary.

Coats is probably also better suited to being the third-string tight end, if that makes sense, behind some combination of Reggie Kelly, Chase Coffman, or a draft pick. Foschi is mediocre at everything, while Coats is a one-dimensional specialist who can’t catch very well but who can block. Plus, they may still have plans to try him at fullback.

by LooseCannon on Mar 17, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

TIGHT END

I think we must take a tight end in the 2nd or 3rd. If Gresham or the kid from Arizona is there in the 2nd rd we should pick one of them. If not, take the best available in the 3rd, Mccoy or Hernandez probably. I also feel that we must take the G Mike Iupati from Idaho in the 1st rd unless someone spectacular drops. WHO DEY!

by diehard fan on Mar 17, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I give Foschi a bit more respect

He was also playing in a less than ideal situation. He was on the field with 3 other receivers 2 of who the defense didn’t respect. They didn’t draw coverage and with the Bengals dependence o the running game the D clogged up his area of the field. I actually think he is a good TE – not great – but good. If Bryant can play like he has and Caldwell can mature and improve the coverage in the area of the field where Brat usually reserves for the TE Foschi will probably be much improved. His situation is not all his fault. Yes he dropped a few too many passes but he also came up with several key receptions. He had over 80 yards in one game and some of the plays he did make were very important first downs that could be considered game savers.

I do not think the TE situation is a critical as some here. 2nd round critical at the most. If we improve the Oline by signing Bobby and can somehow grab Iutapi or by a miracle one to the OL guys projected to be taken higher who might drop to us it will pay major dividends. McCoy in the 2nd I would be OK with but it all depends on who else is available. There are TEs available later who are probably as good. I would be surprised if Coats is here when the season starts if we grab a decent TE. I hate it when Coats is on the field because Carson is sometimes tempted to actually throw him the ball with frequently disastrous results.

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by JUNGLEJOHN on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless I'm not remembering correctly...

Foschi got signed after training camp. He didn’t have time to learn the system, and the system sucked last year anyway. Give him a training camp and some time to sync up with Palmer, and he would be adequate for this year while they continue to evaluate Coffman. If you ask me, our offensive ineptitude last year was more because the OL, not really TE.

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by kazahani2 on Mar 22, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Bengals continue to insist on a TE who can catch and block, forget Gresham. The guy may be able to learn to block but, with so much uncertainty surrounding Reggie Kelly, I don’t know if they can afford to take another project TE. Hernandez can’t block and isn’t even a TE-he’s an H back,or a bulky WR. McCoy is a pretty good player, but not worth a 2d round pick-don’t reach for need. The best bet for the Bengals in the first 2 rounds is Rob Gronkowski IF his back is okay and he has a good workout. If not, the Bengals shouldn’t take a TE until rounds 3-5. McCoy would be good value in Rd 3. Tony Moeaki or Colin Peek would be doable in Rd 4 or 5. These 3 guys are all top blockers and above average receivers.

by virginiastripes on Mar 17, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Peek is a sleeper

I think peek would be a great addition… Moeaki not so much, he is a walking MASH unit and undersized to boot…

by Jaydolla on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Gronkowski in the second, but he’d better have an awesome workout, not just a good one. McCoy would be OK in round 3 (we have a second pick there, right?), and Graham if he’s still there in the 4th. I’m not sold on the rest.

by Mr. X on Mar 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe they should try and get the TE from Arkansas. 2 yrs ago he led the team in receptions, last year he was used as a blocking TE. Sounds like he can do both.

by SRought on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Just Curious

How ’bout Tim Tebow for TE?

by Welsh on Mar 18, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I couldn't handle Tebow and Thom Brenneman in the same city........

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by btcoop71 on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't think that just because Tebow is such a great athlete and competitor

that he can play any position you want him to. Has he ever taken a snap at TE? How is his blocking? Can he even catch the ball?

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by kazahani2 on Mar 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

tight end/coats

right on loose cannon. coats was signed cheap( not nessacarily just a bengal thing ).he has value both …please carson no more passes to coats in the endzone…as a last ditch tight end and a reasoable 2Nd string fullback. also maybe special teamer???we have a very good project at TE in coffman.sems silly to use a 1,2 or3 pick on another.we have bigger needs and none of the picks at TEseem to be both blocker and pass option.good free agent TE are gone. given coffmans record in college and his injury he deserves another shot i think hes as good as anyone in this years draft.

by stripenut on Mar 18, 2010 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Jimmy Graham is the pick in the 3rd

he is actually bigger then Greasham just didnt play last year

by FSUBENGAL on Mar 18, 2010 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Needs more Pitta

You don’t take a TE until round 4 or a supplemental pick at the end of 3, unless McCoy or Hernandez slip to the first 3rd round pick. Then you look at Pitta from BYU or Peek from Alabama. Also if the player value does not match where you would be reaching for them I say grab Jake Ballard in the 6th or 7th round. He isn’t a classic receiving TE but dude can flat out block, sometimes taking on the other teams top DE in run blocking. He also has atheletic ability that tOSU didn’t use, he can leap, see the rose bowl catch, and he has great hands. Jake is 6-6 and over 250. I say grab him late, him and Coffman can make the hands/blocking duo for Bengals TE’s going forward.

by JoseOle on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Pitta = Coffman

pass-catching TE in a spread offense scheme. wouldn’t mind Ballard late. he’s a great athlete and he blocks really well. i don’t think Ohio State used him enough in the passing game but i’ve seen him play basketball and he’s a freak.

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by GrooveLeg on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

waste of a draft pick

bengals already have their young te project in coffman. no point in grabbing a te prospect before the 5th round, unless he can start for them, this year, not someday.

cut coats, sign a blocking te free agent, resign foschi, sign a veteran te (there are a ton of FAs available), get coffman ready to play this season. if coffman doesn’t show signs of being the answer this season, draft a TE next year.

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by palewook on Mar 18, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Draft an tightend in the second or third round IF they need one.

I just don’t think the bengals need to draft a tightend this year,they have Chase Coffman,and should really consider resigning Foshi,and go in free agency and sign a veteran tightend, to make an instant impact for the offensive.NO more rookies for Carson to count ON, his window of playing is closeing slowly this is his 8th season.So I feel the time is NOW for the Bengals,they have a legit running game,Chad needs help,which he has gotten with the signing of Bryant ,and Jones,they should still sign Terrell Owens,that will make the Offensive top three in the N.F.L even without a pass catching tightend,who would be double coverd,whoever it is would leave one on one coverage for Coffman & Caldwell & Jones.

by kingbengal on Mar 18, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Common knowledge says that

wide recievers take 2-3 seasons to develop fully, right? Well guess what? The same thing is true about pass catching tight ends. Not only do they have to learn how to play against professional DBs, but they also have to learn how to block blitzing safeties and linebackers. Give Coffman a chance here, folks.

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by kazahani2 on Mar 22, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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