Holmes: If the Bengals want Mardy Gilyard, they'll have to take him in the first round
by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 18, 2010 12:01 PM EDT
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PrintIf the Bengals are dead set in drafting Mardy Gilyard during next month's NFL draft, they'll likely have to do it in the first round. Gilyard would most likely be off the board by the time Cincinnati picks 54th (second round) in next month's NFL draft, writes Carlos Holmes.
Gilyard has been worked out by Denver and New England and has a visit lined up with Tennessee. New England owns the 44th, 48th and 53rd overall picks.
Gilyard is an interesting pick, but there's questions. First of all, we highly doubt that Gilyard would contribute to a role more than special teams in 2010 with Chad Ochocinco, Antonio Bryant and Andre Caldwell being the team's first three receivers. Secondly, you'd have to ask yourself if there's other positions that the Bengals could address that would give the team a vast upgrade.
But the points for drafting Gilyard are compelling. "The team is in need of a young play-making receiver to groom behind Chad Ochocinco." Gilyard (6-foot-0, 187 pounds) and Chad (6-foot-1, 192 pounds) are nearly equal size. Both are fast and quick. Like Chad, Gilyard is a play-maker. If you're looking for someone to help this year, picking Gilyard in the first round probably wouldn't give you much. But if you're looking beyond this year, then Gilyard might be worth checking into. And if he's there in the second round, which seems unlikely (which was thought of with Rey Maualuga too), then you might have to pull the trigger and take him.
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We got our WR in Free Agency
And between Cosby and Scott, I don’t think we need a return man. It would be a mistake to use our first round draft pick on this guy, even if he is an Ocho clone. If he’s around in the second, then maybe, but it would be nice to be able to draft a TE in the second. McCoy perhaps?
This is our year!
We have alot of depth already.
Couldn’t we trade some of our later round picks and move up in the 2nd to get him? I know the Bengals never do draft day trades, but this makes sense to me.
by New Red Machine on Mar 18, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
no WR till the tird round at least
with chad, bryant, caldwell, simpsonh and whoever the fifth is there is no need to take one that early. I would wait till the fourth.
I'm not sure
we should draft a receiver at all. If Caldwell continues to develop and if Jerome is going to be given a serious chance, I think we might stay put with what we have.
Really?
Andre Caldwell is going to keep anyone off the field?
RE:
I actually snickered. I agree here. We could make the argument that Caldwell was a big disappointment. But we’d get trashed because apparently WRs actually start playing in the NFL during their third season.
Though Caldwell had a good start to the season. Where did he go in the second half of the year?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to say. Doesn’t get the separation you’d like to see from a guy with his size and speed. I know TJ had some big years for us, but a guy’s not hitting at least 10.5/11 YPC he’s either a tortoise or doesn’t understand the nuances of the position. Florida receivers look great on paper, but an overwhelming majority flop.
or
we had an offensive system last year that never had Caldwell running deep routes….ever. I know that everybody is frustrated with the fact that our passing game was weak post Henry, but I don’t think Caldwell is the guy we need to point fingers at. I can only remember Palmer going deep to him one time last year (Jets game maybe?). He had separation, and was slightly overthrown, but dropped an admittedly catchable pass….(sigh)
He’s a legit #3 guy in my mind, but if he struggles at the beginning of this season, I think Cosby, Simpson or Jones might be able to fill the void. I’d love to see Gilyard in stripes, but I don’t think we need to draft him in the first round to become a special teams guy.
This is our year!
IF we do
If we draft a receiver in the first 3 rounds the you can say goodbye to Simpson. He’s the only guy that doesn’t have a role. With Quan Cosby returning kicks and Caldwell playing in the slot, what good is keeping him on the roster?
On a side note, does anybody know what Simpson’s wonderlic score was? How does it take a guy with “all the physical tools” 3 years to learn to run a route? I’m ready to label him a bust and move on.
RE:
Theoretically, if they drafted Gilyard, they’d more than likely use him on special teams as a returner, which would all but knock Cosby off the roster. And Gilyard is badass on special teams.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
A swap from Simpson and Gilyard makes more sense...
Cosby’s KR-blocking and PR-ability would not be sacrificed for Gilyard. Remember how many people he blocked for Scott’s KR TD against Pittsburgh? Well say goodbye to that TD if Cosby goes. Gilyard isn’t physical enough to replace Cosby’s KR-blocking.
Plus Simpson plays Chad’s spot so if the Bengals did get a WR to be his heir, they’d replace the one whose in that spot currently.
by Sheffieldbengal on Mar 18, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not a good value where they pick
End of story.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Mar 18, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
100% agree
he wouldn’t be worth the talent they would be skipping over. That pick would be a big fat reach and good teams avoid reaches (even if they kid is a hometown boy)
by Sheffieldbengal on Mar 18, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What
I’m telling you this kid is nothing but a playmaker he is a guy that will put the team on his back and go if the Bengals let him get away it’ll be a huge mistake the kid wants to play here that doesn’t happen everyday he’s very familiar with the team already as he is a friend of chads and most of the wr’s
by Henson58 on Mar 19, 2010 1:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree.
We need to take this kid. He wants to come here and will be a big playmaker on special teams his first year, and longer term he will be a replacement for Chad. We are gonna kick ourselves later for not taking Gilyard, just as we did for taking Simpson over Desean Jackson.
Take Gilyard.
by BonnieBengal on Mar 19, 2010 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions
it's not like we're taking another receiver over him
and we have more pressing needs than wr. there are 2 or 3 guys like gilyard that come out every year. how is he going to make plays if we can’t protect carson for long enough for him to get gilyard the ball? or what good is his playmaking going to be when teams are throwing it over our safeties heads?
RIP Slim.
Bengals second round pick & Gilyard
Gilyard may get picked up by Carolina at #47 to be the replacement for an aging Steve Smith or New England coould take him with there second pick in the second round #48 and at #50 Kansas City is an option but I don’t see the Bengals passing up players like S C. Jones of LSU, G V.Ducasse of UMASS, G J. Asamoah of Illinoise St, S R.Jones Georgia. These are inpact players at a position of need. With the pick up of A. Bryant and M. Jones I think this pick goes to a differant position.
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