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Holmes: Taylor Mays would "flourish" in Mike Zimmer's defense

While you guys were severely irritated at me making the suggestion that the Bengals should draft Eric Berry (if he's there), who will (barring unforeseen circumstances) be gone before the Bengals 21st overall pick, the Bengals could elect to pick up another safety that's far more likely to be around. Even then, Holmes writes, he could be gone after he had a "show-stopping performance" at the Combine last month.

Mays will have to make it past the Seattle Seahawks with the No. 6 and No. 14 overall picks for that to happen. The team is in the market for a safety since releasing Deon Grant. I think this pick is a no-brainer. No one knows Mays better than Seahawks new head coach Pete Carroll, who coached him for four seasons at USC. Not to mention his former position coach Ken Norton Jr., who also joined the coaching staff this offseason.

Should Mays slip past Seattle, he could be there for the Bengals at No. 21.

While Holmes believes that Mays would "flourish" in Mike Zimmer's defense, which encourages safeties to jam the box to "support the run or blitz the passer", he notes things about Mays that aren't all that awesome.

Mays’ questionable instincts and poor change-of-direction skills in coverage could be headed down the same path. The player tends to take bad angles in coverage and would rather make a big hit than make a play on the ball. Mays will need to be more consistent making plays on the ball in the pros. Presentation may be something else to improve on.

According to sources, Mays could see his stock dip on draft day if Seattle fails to pull the trigger. I’m told that Mays did not interview well with some teams at the Senior Bowl and combine. It was also stated that the player came across as arrogant and with an over-inflated ego.

Mays has been brought up several times . One of which was an article written by Geoff Hobson after the Bengals signed Antonio Bryant. "Another thing (signing Bryant) does is crack the first round of next month's draft wide open. Get the tight end in the second round, the wideout in the third and the Taylor Mays and Mike Iupati factions can start dreaming at No. 21."

Mojokong championed Mays during a post written earlier this month.

If Iupati is no longer on the board once the Bengals are on the clock another option could be Taylor Mays, the overgrown safety from USC. Before last season, many scouts had Mays as a top-five pick, but he has since slipped based on his inability to cover slot receivers one-on-one. Yet he made up some of that ground running an astonishing 4.26 unofficial 40-yard dash time at the Combine. That kind of speed, combined with his 6'3''/230lbs. size, would give Mike Zimmer a legitimate freak to work with. Zim developed another big safety, Roy Williams, into a pro-bowler; who's to say he couldn't do the same with Mays?

Mays is a safety/linebacker hybrid type who could help the run defense become even more stout while also being the imposing head hunter striking fear into receivers' hearts as they cross the middle of the field. After drafting Keith Rivers and Rey Maualuga in recent years, the Bengals seem comfortable taking former USC defenders. Selecting this Trojan would allow Zimmer to become even more creative with his scheme and also give him a defensive back that can match up with the bigger receivers in the league. If Iupati is gone and Mays is still there, I think this pick is a no-brainer.

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When is the last time the Bengals traded up to get a true game-changer?


Anyone? Anyone know the answer to this?

Polamalu = Game-Changer.
Reed = Game-Changer.
Mays = ???

If it makes sense to have Mays in Zim’s D, why not trade up to keep him out of Seattle’s hands? At the very least, if they don’t take him at 6, then trade up to 13 or higher. Shouldn’t take that much, right?

by TheWalrus1971 on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

so could a lot of other teams

there are drafts where we really missed and i’d be angry, but we took palmer in 03 and levi jones in 02. and jones and palmer are major reasons cincy was so good in 05.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Mar 18, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Mays is a game changer

The guy is more like a workout warrior type. He lacks the football instincts. Look at how Stanford ran all over USC. Heck so did a lot of teams. If Mays was such a game changer how come USC’s defense was so bad (for them) last year?

by occams_tiger_teeth on Mar 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

He also wore a brace on his leg

 b/c of his knee. That restricts him and his mobility. Look at his prior year tapes/videos and he’s all over the receivers, like a blanket… That is why he had an outstanding combine, the knee is healed 100%.

by WHYUS!! on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mays

played center-field in the USC D and was employed mainly defending the long ball. The problem with Mays wasn’t his instincts (he was often in the right spot – though like Rey he can be overaggresive) but that he went for the big hit rather than attack the ball in the air. He missed out of plently of deflected passes so that he could be the big bad enforcer. He is worth the risk if Zimmer agrees with the pick. The one person in the Bengals building i have full faith in is Zimmer and i’m sure he’d love to have Roy Williams with speed

by Sheffieldbengal on Mar 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love for the Bengals to draft Mays

Because I don’t think he’s an impact player in the NFL. He runs fast, jumps high, can lift 225 lbs. over 20 times but where’s the instincts for the game. How many interception did Mays get at USC? Where’s the change of direction skill required to be a top-flight safety in the NFL?

A lot of USC players get over-drafted because of the USC name. It will be interesting to see where Mays lands.

by Ravens One on Mar 19, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love for the Steelers to pick him

I think he’s way overrated. He’s maybe the fourth or fifth best FS in this class.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Mar 19, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

I’d like anybody draft him but the Ravens. He’d fit right in Pittsburgh because he can’t cover in space. The USC skill guy’s (WR’s, RB’s and QB’s) come up short and disappoint in the pros and I expect no less from Mays. He got special team demon written all over him.

by Ravens One on Mar 20, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eric Berry

Why not just trade up to take Berry. If you want a game changer, go get him.
Opp’s this is mikeboy..never mind

by Crazycat518 on Mar 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

They might not have enough trade bait to get that done

it’s a big move up to get Berry, probably.

But yeah, Mikey Boy has never shown the ability to pounce on draft day. That’s why Darrelle Revis is a Jet. The Bengals could have jumped in that draft but instead stood pat and got Leon Hall, who is a good player but is no Revis Island.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Mar 18, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

because

he could go as high as 3 or 5 and to get up that high, basically we’d have to give up all of our other draft picks.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Mar 18, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't move up!

Well to move up to get Berry it would take 2nd and 3rd this year and picks next year so no thanks. Then most of the draft grades are such that there isn’t much separation between pick 10 and 30. There are guys that would be first rounders most years that are projecting into the 2nd round and some will fall into the 3rd. You don’t move up in this draft unless it wins you a superbowl. The Bengals should stay where they are and see what happens. Then maybe trade down if nobody is there, or take the best dline or oline prospect. I like Mays as a big tough run stopper, but isn’t that what Crocker and Williams already are?

by JoseOle on Mar 18, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

RE:

This is kind of ridiculous because you never know. But if Berry was the Ed Reed/Troy Polawhatever of this class, wouldn’t that be worth trading several picks for? I know, I know. Dumb. Because for all we know, Berry could be a bust. Still, interesting thought…

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 18, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it depends

i mean, let’s take 2003 for instance, the year polamalu was drafted. and for argument’s sake, let’s say arizona wanted to trade up for him.

and so they trade their 1st in 03 and 1st and 3rd in 04. that means they traded boldin, fitzgerald, and darnell dockett for polamalu. and while he’s incredible, would he be worth those 3?

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Mar 18, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

"but isn’t that what Crocker and Williams already are"

Yes. However, I wouldn’t depend on them. Williams hasn’t had a full season in some time now. We need more youth, IMHO. Crocker is good, but if we still need depth and if there’s someone that’s better than Crocker out there…….

Blogger at CincyJungle.com -- SB Nation Cincinnati Bengals blog.

by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 18, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

even if these players are similar, a drafted player would be younger, faster, and more upside. we dont want to see Nelson or Hebert play with the regular D

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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 18, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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