Bengals Banter: Mike Brown to vote against overtime changes

by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 22, 2010 1:00 PM EDT in Analysis

Joe Reedy mocks that the Bengals will draft Jermaine Gresham. I'm still not sure that the Bengals will draft a tight end in the first round, or even the second round. I agree that the team needs someone to make a difference in the passing game, but have the Bengals ever shown an urgency to really showcase a tight end for more than blocking someone? Again. I agree, Cincinnati needs an effective tight end in the passing game. However, I just don't think the Bengals will draft someone in the first round to achieve that.

Mike Brown will vote against any overtime changes during this week's NFL Owners meeting.

For those of you that actually have the idea in your heads that the Bengals will draft a quarterback to eventually replace Carson Palmer this year, let me put your mind at ease. Not going to happen.

Geoff Hobson writes that the Bengals will likely get two compensatory picks. "Stacy Andrews left for a big enough deal that could give the Bengals a third-rounder. And with Ryan Fitzpatrick starting eight games in Buffalo, is that enough for a fourth-rounder?"

Former Bengals linebacker Landon Johnson signed with the Detroit Lions to solidify their special teams.

While some suggest that the Bengals haven't ruled out signing Terrell Owens, Aaron Wilson writes that the "door appears to be completely closed." It's being reported that Owens wants $5 million a year.

Bengals running backs coach Jim Anderson was in Stanford during their Pro Day, working with running back Toby Gerhart.

Chick Ludwig likes the idea of drafting Tim Tebow for his leadership and "literally willing his team to victory". Me? Not so much.

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I know it's what he's "supposed" to be doing, but...

…I like the fact that Gresham is shown clearly looking the ball all the way into his hands. I don’t know that much about him, otherwise, to know how technically sound he is, but if the Bengals draft him, that alone would give Carson some good vibes in the flat on 3rd down.

by TheWalrus1971 on Mar 22, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions

It's so juicy, like a perfectly cooked steak

I can’t help but feel that Mike Brown is going to fight to select Tebow. I’m not sure why, nothing to prove it, but I hope it doesn’t happen.

We don’t need him in 2010. We need at least 3 of the draft picks to be READY TO PLAY this season. We need a Safety, an OG, a DT, a LBer (back up ready to play) and we need a TE.

I’m not saying don’t draft a QB and a WR, just don’t do it in the first three rounds.

That said. I have zero confidence in JT O’shiti’minagain and Palmer ultra light going in if Carson goes down. We do need to get ready for life without Carson Palmer.

by UpStateMike on Mar 22, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions

I agree

we do need to get ready for life without carson, but not yet, right now this team is actually pretty darn good, we are still the division champs with everyone coming back, and healthy, as I see it, we are carson or bust for the next 3-4 years at least, I am dreading the day we draft another qb to take over, heaven help us if we go through another round of David Klinglers and Akili Smiths, that being said, we do need a solid backup, seeing that helmet swallow JT’s head like he is a 6th grader with his older brother’s equipment on sickens and frightens me to no end

by whodeydoc on Mar 22, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

as I see it, we are carson or bust for the next 3-4 years at least,

I agree

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Mar 22, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Just throwing this out there

I’ve posted here before that I think carson is a mess. Throwing balls 2 ft over receivers heads, messed- up mechanics, not going through all his reads, etc. He looked unsettled and confused and shockingly bad at times last year. I understand it can’t all be on his shoulders with our pass protection and receiver play being what it was, but what do you all think about this: if Carson is bad, or shows his skills have eroded even further, do the Bengals go QB early in next year’s draft?

by Bengals NFL Champs on Mar 22, 2010 2:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

yes

I agree that if his skills erode quickly we should go for another qb, either by draft or free agency at that time, but I’m not sold on him being the problem at all, maybe its because I have a #9 jersey and I’m cheap and don’t want to have to replace it any time soon, but after watching last year, I saw an offensive line that was tremendous at the run but was very shaky at pass protection, I know you can throw the low sack stats out at me, but Carson rushed a lot of his throws last year, that and he still won’t plant his damn foot down, those two reasons cause the high throws, even with the tough schedule next year, I see the Bengals being a force in the AFC, I just want them to get over the hump and I see Carson being the guy that eventually gets us there

by whodeydoc on Mar 22, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope you’re right. I like Carson a lot. Watching him come back from that knee injury & play the very next season, when all of his
ligaments looked like someone put a stick of dynamite in his knee, was one of the most amazing things I’ve seen in sports. He should have been done with football and walking with a cane for the rest of his life.

I hope we make the necessary improvements in protection—and maybe this is psuedo-intellectual nonsense—but he just doesn’t look right to me. When I watch Brees or Manning or Rivers, I see guys playing with an edge, completely dialed-in and confident that they have the defense on their heels. I don’t see it with Carson. I see him afraid to plant that front foot just as you said, panicking after his first read (even if there’s still a pocket around him), etc.

I worry that the Bengals are building a really good team around him, with playmakers on offense and a top 3 defense (Zimmer will be here 2 more seasons max), and we’re going to watch them bow out of the wildcard round for the next three seasons because Carson will flash but ultimately fail to deliver.

by Bengals NFL Champs on Mar 22, 2010 2:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

No 1st Round TE, Drafting a QB

I also agree that we won’t/shouldn’t draft a TE in the first round. It seems like the top TEs in this draft are great pass-catchers with questionable blocking skills. What the team needs is a good blocker who can catch and run basic routes. Otherwise, it’s just another Coffman.

As for drafting a QB, I think Cincy is should draft someone within the next 2 years (but not now) to groom as Palmer’s replacement. This year will be telling, but I figure Palmer’s got 4-5 years left on him.

by Whokebe on Mar 22, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions

Why not?

Why shouldn’t Cincy draft a project QB? Why shouldn’t they take a guy who can sit down and watch carson do his thing for at least 4 more years and when it’s time to move on he can compete for the starting job? I think a guy like Sean Canfield or Matt Nichols should be drafted. In this scenario the guy can see limited action( barring another incident like 08), Develop as a QB, and when Carson is gone atleast we can have a guy to hold down the fort if the bengals want to draft a replacment high up. The good part is that its a 7th rounder. If he doesnt turn out roll him send him out the door.

"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant

by cincyboy on Mar 22, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Hobson

Hobson states that Coles and TJ cancel each other out. Coles was cut so the Jets don’t get compensation for letting him go so do the Bengals lose compensation from TJ?

by JoseOle on Mar 22, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions

Again, considering the performance of this offense the past few years, how is Bratkowski justified in bucking conventional NFL wisdom and excluding a receiving TE from the gameplan? He hasn’t been successful with this approach since 2006. Why insist? Are the Colts and Chargers suffering with Clark and Gates?

Please share your renegade philosophy with the rest of the league, Bob. You are the shining beacon of offensive innovation. Don’t bother looking outward. The league should hit the books and study what you do.

by bodacio zk on Mar 22, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions

Is it a possibility that we draft Toby Gerhart

if we did we could switch him to fullback. It would definitly be a upgrade over Fui Vakapuna and I doubt we’d see Jeremi Johnson put on a bengals jersey ever again.

"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant

by cincyboy on Mar 22, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions