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Bengals release veteran wide receiver Laveranues Coles

Sometimes vindication is so bitter sweet that I bask in a swimming pool of french vanilla cappuccino with a big stogie. In late February, I made the super-intellectual and logical observation that when Marvin Lewis spoke of Coles, he spoke in past-tense, clearly offering up a hint that Coles won't be with Cincinnati in 2010. So, thank you for recognizing my mastery observational skills of the English language. Then on February 24, it was written that the Bengals regretting signing Coles. In all seriousness, every subtlety hinted towards the Bengals moving on.

On Thursday afternoon, the Cincinnati Bengals released Laveranues Coles. Along with age, as well as Marvin Lewis' backing of (thus-far disappointing) wide receiver Jerome Simpson, Coles' lack of production in 2009 likely caused the Bengals to cut Coles before he was due a paltry roster bonus, or the $4.6 million he was scheduled to earn in 2010.

Coles had his worst season in 2009 since his rookie season, recording only 43 receptions for 514 yards receiving and (albeit decent) five touchdowns.

It should be noted, however, that based on the existing contract, the Bengals could sign Coles back on the flip side of the free agency gun at midnight on Friday that's very team-friendly. Because we can't imagine that Coles will get anything close to the four-year $27.5 million deal he received last year.

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By cap I mean how much money will we owe him?

I wonder how much money Mr. Brown is going to spend?

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

Well, figure that he received $9.75 million in guaranteed money. $7.7 million of it was given to him his first year (roster bonus and signing bonus). But I’m not exactly sure about the other details.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 4, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t think the uncapped year started until tomorrow. Well tonight at 12:01 AM or whatever. Which is why I was expecting all of these moves tomorrow morning at 8am-ish, not 5pm-ish today.

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 4, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

All bonuses paid on the first day of the new league year would be paid at 4pm tomorrow afternoon. So that can’t be it.

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 4, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

My bet is that we had enough room under last year’s cap to just go on ahead and cut him so we did to help our chances of getting a compensatory pick for TJ.

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 4, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Good riddance to kind of bad rubbish

I am with Josh though. If we could bring him back on a 1 year deal at about 2.5 mill, I wouldn’t be terribly upset.

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by Kabash on Mar 4, 2010 4:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

agreed

my problem wasn’t so much with his production as his production per dollar.

by jim0ijk on Mar 4, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this means

That the Bengals will test the WR free AGent Market. I could see Walter, TO and Brandon Marshall getting a sniff. While I think the Bengals could draft a WR pretty early, they will not expect him to start this year. the other starter could be Jones, Simpson or Caldwell, or COles could come bak. BUt I think the Bengals would have hed on to Coles longer if he was their first choice.

by jim0ijk on Mar 4, 2010 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed Jim

One of our main points against signing T.O when it was the hot topic, was that the Bengals wouldn’t sign another aging wide receiver. If we brought in T.O., then Coles had to go. But I think the reasoning for Coles’ release is simply cost. He wasn’t giving the Bengals the results with the investment they made in him.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 4, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Kirk, I think you used your sixth, maybe even seventh sense on that one.

Good Eye Tiger

by The Dealio on Mar 4, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Walter already been here

Doubt he returns under same coaches

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Does this mean

We are now in the Market for FA WR’s? I hear Arizona want’s a 3rd round pick for Boldin.. This is a no brainer.. Get Anquan in town now and sign a long term deal..

by JamesShively on Mar 4, 2010 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

I agree it is a no brainer to trade a 3rd round pick for Boldin

I wouldn’t mind having both, Imagine Marshall, Boldin, and Ocho…..WOW! If Palmer sucked then he would have no excuse

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't read too much into it.

I actually don’t see this move as a result of signing or shopping the FA market for another veteran WR. Like I said earlier, I believe this move was cost-related only — but if they choose to sign someone, they’re in a better position to do so. But I’ve been wrong so many times before; no reason to believe the English-awesome Demigod that is me. :)

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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 4, 2010 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Boldin

is a proven #1 WR in the league.. We will not find that in the draft… If they want to make this team good long term they should look in to this deeply..

by JamesShively on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

You’re banking way too much on.

1) Boldin is actually available for a third round pick.
2) Bengals can satisfy Boldin’s demand when he gets a contract extension
3) Boldin won’t complain when Chad makes more money
4) That Chad won’t complain when Boldin makes more money

All things considered, would LOVE to have Boldin. I just very much doubt it happens.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 4, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree with James

I think that Boldin is a great # 2. He has had FItzgerald with him most of the time, and only had 100 catches twice in 7 years. He also wants more money than MB will be willing to part with in my opinion.

by jim0ijk on Mar 4, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m really tempted to disagree with you here, but the last time I disagreed with you about the whole “past tense” thing, I looked like a fool.

That said, if I were Mike Brown, I’d be really nervous about falling behind Baltimore in the Free Agent race. There is talk about Marshall and/or TO going to Baltimore. This move creates space for us to at least keep pace and go after one of those A-level WR’s that are out there.

That said, I’m not holding my breath either.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Mar 4, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why

we need to draft a top tier receiver and not get another #1 veteran receiver via FA to avoid the drama with Chad and keep the house in order.

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Mar 4, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree.

We can do both. If we get TO signed to 1 or 2 years, then we could draft a top flight WR and “develop” that talent.

by The Dealio on Mar 4, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

...

I have faith in Caldwell and believe it or not, Simpson. Plus Cosby looks like a good slot candidate, Coffman looks like is going to contribute to the passing game. We have three pass catching running backs, and if we add a top tier WR through the draft, I think we might be ok.

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Mar 4, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and something else...

Reedy wrote:

During the past two weeks, coach Marvin Lewis talked about how Coles brought professionalism to the locker room and helped serve as a mentor to Chad Ochocinco and other receivers. But, there was no mention of his on field performance and Lewis kept referring to Coles in the past tense — two leading indicators that he was as good as gone.

Yea. See? It wasn’t just me. I want all of you guys that gave me crap about it to respond to this comment saying I’m awesome. And after that, the matter is dropped. ;-) (of course I’m teasing).

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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you Jake.

I appreciate it. :)

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by Josh Kirkendall on Mar 4, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Kirk = Awesome

Just because I might have given you crap about it before, but I’ve slept (I think) since then.

by TheWalrus1971 on Mar 4, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I just got bitch slapped

lol. Good call Josh, you are the new master of observation.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Mar 4, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy! We’re scum! We suck!

- Wayne’s World

by The Dealio on Mar 4, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

okay i was one of the people who didnt get the same feeling as you on the past tense being used by lewis. and i’ll apologize haha. Your awesome!

by Whodey85 on Mar 4, 2010 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

O wow! this is great!!

Does this mean we make a play for Brandon Marshall? midnight tonight! who else will be up to see?

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

not,

and I live in Central time. Bengals will do nothing tonight. Maybe tomorrow.

by jim0ijk on Mar 4, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yea it would be 11 here also

We could try for Boldin! all Arizona wants is a 3rd round pick

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

you never know

you didnt think coless would just have been gone either

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not surprised!

I’d be surprised if the Bengals make a big move tonight. Mike Brown never acts when the clock ticks to midnight.

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I know

Always a first time… And if you are asleep you will miss it! Thats ok you can read it in my fanpost tomorrow :) (If we did something)

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

simpson and caldwell

I think this shows how much marvin likes those two. I don’t see us getting a big name WR so i think we can expect one of these guys to start on the other side of chad. I would think marvin wants simpson there. We prob draft a guy but he prob wont start off the bat and no other people are good enough to start that are on our roster.

by BigJungle on Mar 4, 2010 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

AZ WR

Cincy would probably target is Breaston.

As for other FA targets, I would imagine Bobbie Williams and one of the TEs available are the targets. Just becasue it is an uncapped year doesn’t mean every team will break the bank. There was also a minimum cap and it wouldn’t surprise me if Cincy is $10-15M below it come the start of training camp. Of course we can still dream that a superstar receiver is coming via trade or FA.

by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Mar 4, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You can get Boldin for a 3rd round pick!

I bet that is why Coles is gone

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

He’d only have to play for us on third down anyways!

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Mar 4, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait hold up!!

he had his face shattered and played like 2 weeks later
Our LINEBACKER has his Jaw broke and sits out the season!

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

no one is getting boldin for a 3rd round pick. If that were the case 2/3 of the teams are going after him. There will prob be a bidding war for him and could end up being a 2 and 3 or something.

by BigJungle on Mar 4, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

teams dont want to give up draft picks this year

Scouts say this is the deepest draft since 1983, and teams want their picks more than ever

www.fantasydaddy.com

by Joe Goodberry on Mar 4, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

correction they say its the deepest defensively if you look at it from an offensive perspective its a downer year

by trussell70 on Mar 4, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to say

WR is very deep, not at the top. But there is value even in the 3rd-4th rounds
TE is deep you can get a starter even in the 4th round
OT is deep at the top of the draft
RB is deep, look for 6 RBs in the first 3 rounds

www.fantasydaddy.com

by Joe Goodberry on Mar 4, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I agree....

It’s very likely we use these two guys a lot more this year… assuming Mikey Brown stays in character and doesn’t spend big in free agency.

by The Dealio on Mar 4, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Coles

obviously didn’t know the system very well.. Now with a year working it maybe we bring him back for less money.. I still think he has potential to make an impact.. I’m just not willing to break the bank like we did last year..

by JamesShively on Mar 4, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

We ARE Marshall....

Brandon that is.

No Anquan please. He is an Injury train that doesnt bring it or even play in the postseason. We need Marshall and Marshall only. Big, fast, good hands.

Pleas Mike Brown, MAKE IT HAPPEN. A big WR is all this offense needs

Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson

by Benson on Mar 4, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

Bengals FA's in top 50 free agent list

Coles not listed :)

Bobbie Williams 27
Shayne Graham 35
Tank 47
Larry 42
Jeremi Johnson’s 43

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

I'd like to see us keep Tank.

Replace Johnson with McClain depending on the tender.

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody for Antrelle Rolle? need a cover safety?
10. Antrel Rolle, S, Arizona Cardinals: Rolle was due a $4 million roster bonus this month. He is a safety with corner skills. He can match up on wide receivers and hybrid tight ends that cause problems in the slot. He is excellent at baiting quarterbacks and playing the ‘robber’ role.

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

Busiest men on the planet today

Adam Schefter, John Clayton, and Chris Morteneson

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

jsl413

(if only I had a press pass and their reputation..)

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it

have all the inside info

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I just noticed a minor detail.

Coles’ contract was terminated, he was not released. This means that if he goes to another team, we are not going to be eligible for UFA loss compensatory picks. He’s technically not a UFA, if his contract was terminated as James Walker wrote, he is already allowed to talk to other teams.

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

Also, given that they still owe Coles about 2 million in guaranteed money...

and he was due 4.75 this season, that amounts to a pretty decent savings.

I, however, am sick that we paid Coles 9.75M for that garbage performance. He should come back for 2M for a year to make up for it, or maybe even 1.5M. Ugh. First rate money for a third rate WR.

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

because we released him today

it may help us get a 3rd round comp pick for losing TJ

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by Joe Goodberry on Mar 4, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you guys want an open thread for Free Agency discussion tonight?

I’ll update it with news I see and discussion can happen there.

For example, update #1: Nothing close on the #bengals resigning OG Bobbie Williams. He will test the market

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

yes

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok I'll get one up momentarily.

I don’t have much to put on it yet and I think I’m going to go grab some dinner shortly but I thought some people might use it.

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

no rush.... ESPN says:
Cincinnati already was in the market for receivers, but look for that to be even more magnified following Coles’ departure.

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Esiason: Bengals should dump Chad
“Former Bengals great Boomer Esiason isn’t buying what Chad Ochocinco is selling. I happened to briefly tune in to the Pro Bowl on radio just as Esiason was talking about the Bengals and Ochocinco. Esiason said that he’s “not a fan of Ochocinco” and that Chad is all about Chad — not the team. He went on to say how he believes Chad’s antics leading up to games each week — like trash-talking defensive backs — get other teams focused because they don’t want to be shown up. He said the Bengals should part ways with Ochocinco now, but pointed out that head coach Marvin Lewis probably doesn’t have the authority to cut or even properly discipline Chad because of heavy-handed owner Mike Brown."

And some of you guys wonder why I hate on Boomer

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 4, 2010 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, he's been anti-Ocho for the longest time.

Despite teammate and coach testimony that he has improved his work ethic and attitude. Whatever, screw Boomer’s opinion. He sits next to Bill Cowher anyways.

by jsl413 on Mar 4, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Just more proof

Cutting Coles is just the icing on the cake on how the Bengals screwed up on the TJ Housh decision a year ago. Just beating a dead horse here but we need a GM more than anything. Boomer has a lot of fire for this organization…How about Boomer for GM?

by Vman in Germany on Mar 5, 2010 7:33 AM EST reply actions  

I think your forgetting

Mike Brown runs the organization. There will be no GM in his lifetime.

by sgiridharan1982 on Mar 5, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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