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Free Agency Day 1 Recap: Lots of Quiet Noise

The Bengals made little-to-no noise on day one of the free agency period. Here at Cincy Jungle, we suggested that T.O's most likely destination would be in Cincinnati, but that move is probably a long way off, if it ever comes.

Then, we moved on to the future. The Bengals reportedly are talking to Roy Williams, who, if healthy, can be an enforcer in the running game. When he was injured last year, the Bengals defense was tangibly different.  This seems to be the most probable FA signing of the day. Additionally, with the potential departure of OG Bobbie Williams and low tender on Evan Mathis, the Bengals are also said to be interested in Houston Texans free agent Chester Pitts, entering his 8th year. Mostly a left guard, Pitts has started 114 straight games and has also drawn interest from Miami and Detroit.

Anquan Boldin, as you know by now I'm sure, was traded to Baltimore and extended for 3 more years, the Ravens guaranteeing only about $10 million and giving up a 3rd and 4th rounder to pick up Boldin. Some of us were peeved that the Bengals front office did not at least try to make some noise with Boldin going to a division opponent. Drew Rosenhaus then tweeted that Tank Johnson would be making visits early next week, implying that rumored negotiations for re-signing with Cincinnati broke down quickly.

Update: Kevin Walter agrees to terms with Houston. UFA WRs sure did thin out quickly.

Finally, addressing an area of need with a guy that I think could be a solid addition to the team, the Bengals are going to bring in TE Chris Baker for a visit early next week. He could be a solid contributor to all phases of offense, a hard working veteran that knows how to run routes and block when he has to.

All in all, it could have been worse today for Cincinnati. But I think letting Boldin go to Baltimore uncontested was a bad move by the Bengals F.O. Potential options remain on the table, but adding Boldin was adding a huge weapon for whoever pulled it off, and the Ravens did so on the cheap. Cincinnati could have, and should have made an identical offer. Our draft position is slightly higher than the Ravens, thus our offer would have probably won the grand prize of Pro Bowl WR production.

Joe Reedy's recap of day 1 provides some excellent first-hand information, check it out here.

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who is next?

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

I have no idea.

Baker, Pitts, Williams are the only guys I’ve heard of.

Haven’t heard of anyone inquiring about Bengals RFAs.

Of course, it’s only day one.

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe.

Supposedly the Bengals put out a “feeler” to his agent. But he’s kind of a prima donna and can lose focus like Chad.

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Miami

working on a deal with him

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Miami

who did you hear that from?

by vottoholic on Mar 5, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The internet

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Hobson
They made a lot of phone calls Friday to the wide receivers, particularly a high-profile one to Terrell Owens agent Drew Rosenhaus, but it was pretty much just to check in.

They didn’t appear to do much with their own free agents, either, although right guard Bobbie Williams sounded optimistic about re-upping in the near future.

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

Bobbie's good news.

Still would like to see Pitts sign too.

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry
A Williams re-signing would take off the radar Texans guard Chester Pitts, a player that reportedly has drawn interest from the Bengals

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

shoulda made a fan post....o well
But it appears the Bengals have also made a call on Antonio Bryant, who has been on four teams since the Cowboys took him seven seasons ago in the second round of the 2002 draft. The 6-1, 192-pound Bryant struggled in Tampa Bay’s horrendous offense this past season with 39 catches for 600 yards. But he’s also just two years removed from his career-best season of 83 catches for 1,248 yards and seven touchdowns, also with Tampa Bay. Agent Lamont Smith had no comment.

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

may just end up re-signing Colesaw
Also on the Bengals radar, as they say, is believed to be Buffalo’s Josh Reed.

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

go to 80%’s fanpost Antonio Bryant.

by WHYUS!! on Mar 5, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Interestingly -

Walter’s five-year contract is worth over $21 million, according to NFL sources with knowledge of the situation.

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

I sense sarcasm

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, that's a fair contract.

Honestly I think he’s best suited to play the best in Houston too.

I just want something to happen. I don’t want Josh Reed. I wouldn’t mind Coles for 2 mill a year for 2 years or something, but obviously we need someone else.

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

What does this mean?
if they sign an unrestricted free agent to any kind of a deal at all, they lose a chance to get a third- or fourth-round pick as compensation.

For instance, because Coles was cut last year before free agency, he doesn’t count in free-agency compensation. Since the Bengals lost wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh, right tackle Stacy Andrews and quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick last year in free agency, Coles doesn’t count against that and they should emerge with an extra third-round pick and maybe a fourth as compensation

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

RE:

Pretty much, Coles doesn’t count as being on the roster. So it’s like we lost TJ and got nothing back (no Coles) but players we drafted before.

We might wait, then, until after compensatory picks or even after the draft to sign a WR. Who said that?

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Hobson

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Which ties in to my opinion on TO. If he sits out there for two months and nobody wants him except us he’s going to come in cheaper and with a stronger desire to prove 31 other teams wrong.

Ideal? No. Could it work anyway? Absolutely. Will it? Have to wait and see.

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 6, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't want Josh Reed either

Boldin’s in Baltimore…great for a 3rd and 4th…what the hell
Chris Baker coming in for a visit…what the hell
Tank probably won’t come back…what the hell
And the Bengals do absolutely nothing on day 1…what the hell

" I don't lie, I tell a different version of the truth."

by Purple City Middie on Mar 5, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Chris Baker would be a good pickup.

I don’t know how to make this clear, lol.

He’s 30, a good age for TE, he can block, he has great hands, and he’s refined his route-running and he’s pretty damn good at that too.

We never do anything early in FA. If we’re reserving a WR signing for the above mentioned compensatory reasons, that makes sense.

Losing Tanks can be accounted for via the draft. It’s exceptionally deep at DT. This FA period has a lot of good DT talent too.

Boldin – don’t sweat too much. I would have liked the move had we acquired him, but it was never on the radar.

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of people named Reed

PIT used the franchise tender on K Jeff Reed. LOL.

No I’m not cool with Josh Reed either.

I’m staying awake until either the Bengals do something or I pass out

Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Mar 6, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

IIRC

PIT fans talked smack to us when we used our franchise tender on a kicker last year.

Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Mar 6, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Praise the Lord

And pass the No-Doz. "I’m staying awake until either the Bengals do something or I pass out "

You’re gonna be up for a while friend.

"Shiny. Let's be bad guys."

by KentuckianaBrowncoat on Mar 7, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

If it helps..

Prisco: Strange perception: Marshall bad guy, but Boldin a good one. Not so fast with that. Boldin is a baby. Ask Cardinals front office about him

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

Boldin’s primary problem was money. He’s also a competitor, plays hard including risking injury (and paying for it), and he is a team guy in many ways. You should go look up the sound-FX clips from the Saints-Cards playoff game this year. There’s a couple of shots of him trying to help pump his team back up after the Saints landed some haymakers.

Few WRs are ever going to qualify for the Walter Payton award, but he’s not half as bad as he’s made out to be. Which is why I have to agree with Josh, I really would have preferred that he wasn’t in our division. Then again, we’ve got corners that can handle him if we can get a decent push up front so they don’t have to cover for 10 seconds. So I’m not exactly heartbroken over it either.

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 6, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just saying if you are going to bring in a TR from NE why not the one that started?

The draft would make up for losing tank but wouldn’t make up for the experience lost

" I don't lie, I tell a different version of the truth."

by Purple City Middie on Mar 5, 2010 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Drew

is the agent for T.O. and obviously doesn’t get along with our F.O. Does anyone think this play’s into us getting T.O.?

by JamesShively on Mar 5, 2010 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Well, he also represents Chad Ochocinco.

And I thnk some other Bengal. The offer for Tank must have been offensive-or it’s a power play.

by jsl413 on Mar 5, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He does represent Chad

and if I remember correctly he was IMO a big part of Chads “I want out” campaign

by JamesShively on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Dansby a Dolphin

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

I want Mardy Gilyard more and more

each time I hear or see this guy he impresses me

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

after I just heard that radio interview

I would trade down in the second for him or maybe even trade down in the first because he wont last long

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the receivers will last longer than we think.

There are too many of them with close to the same value.

by smoormandiddy on Mar 6, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been saying he could be a T.J. type of guy.

Not the quickest guy in the world but he is just an excellent “football player”

by JamesShively on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

Update VIA ESPN
Hearing mixed reviews on T.O. I’m told the Bengals don’t have nearly as much interest in Owens right now as it’s being portrayed. We’ll see

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by TennBengalfan on Mar 5, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Now the question remains, is this a negotiating ploy or not?

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 6, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Tank

Tank was solid and played hurt most of the year. He stayed out of trouble. I would hate to see him go. I think part of the problem with the Bengals is they are one of the youngest teams in the league.You need some experienced players.Whether they sign Tank or not I hope they go after another DT early.

by redberkey on Mar 5, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Chris Chambers!!!!This cat tore it up with KC last year.

Yes he is 32, five years younger then TO, but he can stretch the field, he never gets injured until 07 when he hurt his ankle, and Miami cut him. This cat is a young 32 and will play on a one or two year contract and will open up the field for Chad immediatly. This guy is scary and no one is talking about him. I am willing to bet Mike Brown is on top of this, just watch.

by FSUBENGAL on Mar 6, 2010 2:55 AM EST reply actions  

He's not as tall as TO

but the dude is rock solid, and can line up anywhere.

Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Mar 6, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks the FA frenzy is way too overrated?

Teams scramble around to overspend on mediocre players that their previous teams no longer wanted. Notice that the good teams stay clear of FA and build their team from the draft. I would much rather resign our RFA’s like B. Johnson and K. Cook or extend the contracts of guys like Hall and Joseph than overspend on some overhyped FA.

Most of the big name FA’s are busts. The cheaper FA’s usually work out much better. If they can sign Chris Baker or TO fairly cheap, I say go for it but no “marquee” deals please.

by smoormandiddy on Mar 6, 2010 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

What are you talking about?

" Notice that the good teams stay clear of FA and build their team from the draft."
All the good teams pick up FA’s all of the time. Patriots, Vikings, Green Bay, Indy, Dallas, Philly, and somewhat Miami, Shitzburgh, and NYG. The Bengals rarely ever sign FA’s. If they do, they usually sign the likings of a Matt Jones. They never give up any draft picks to obtain any good players and always try to build their team through the draft. That is Mikey for ya and good teams here in recent years obtain good FA’s. The cheaper FA’s don’t work out unless you pick them up off of a rebound b/c of some character issues.
Although, I agree with you on signing Hall and JJ to extend their contracts. Seems like that is what Mikey Boy is going to do, sign Baker and go after Chambers , TO, or Bryant. Whom ever is there at the end and is cheaper. And there probably won’t be anybody to sign, after the smoke clears. Then he will sign Hall and JJ.

by WHYUS!! on Mar 6, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re both part right. And part wrong. Because either can work, but you have to get lucky, either in grabbing a FA nobody else wanted who turns out to be great (like, say, Drew Brees), or drafting a sixth or seventh round player who nobody else realized would be great (like, say, Tom Brady? or Marques Colston? Or Bernard Scott, we hope?).

But in order to build through the draft, you have to have a functional scouting department. We’re better than we used to be in that regards, after all, we found Scott in the 6th and TJ and others in late rounds as well. But so far I don’t think we’re good enough to SOLELY build through the draft. Yet, at least.

For those who can't remember the uncapped FA rules, this link's for you.

by FriarBob on Mar 6, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this is the problem with the Bengals under Lewis in particular.

They’re generally inept at developing RB and WR talent (and unlucky w/ Chris Perry and Kenny Irons) and even choosing the right skill players to draft. Last year, with FA acquisition Cedric Benson, we played to our developmental strengths – building an offensive line and defensive identity that was sustainable and strong enough to lead to a winning season.

But absent the ability to draft well, when other teams in your division are making the right moves, you have to do something in free agency to level the playing field, in my opinion anyway. I wrote that the Bengals should have picked up Boldin to both fill the need and keep him away from Baltimore, or at least have made a play. That deal is pretty advantageous to the Ravens if Boldin contributes for more than one season.

by jsl413 on Mar 6, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

when I think of teams that are always big FA spenders, I think of Washington, Chicago, etc. I wouldn’t say that Pittsburgh or Indy do a lot of heavy shopping in the FA market. Just a few reasonably priced contributors.
Maybe it’s my general perseption of being a Cincy sports fan. We never get the big names in football or baseball, I guess I’m just getting used to it.

by smoormandiddy on Mar 6, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That is why I said

somewhat Shitzburgh, Miami, NYG and I guess I should of put Indy in the somewhat category. These teams have spent money in the past on big names FA’s, but not in the recent past. Indy acquired Freeny, Sanders and Vinatieri. That is when they started winning. Then they didn’t have to shop for FA’s anymore. They used the draft after they established their foundation. That is what winning teams do.
And your right, we never get the big name players, unless your owner here in Cincy is Marge Schott.

by WHYUS!! on Mar 6, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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