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Drafting a quarterback to backup Carson Palmer makes sense

We wrote on March 22 that the Cincinnati Bengals will be hosting Holy Cross quarterback Dominic Randolph on April 13; a date that encompasses several schools near the Tri-State area. The team's need for backup quarterbacks was brought up earlier this morning in our Bengals Banter, when a post writen by Marc Hardin wrote that "J.T. O'Sullivan (9 TDs in 8 starts in 8 seasons with 6 teams) and Jordan Palmer (12 career attempts, 25.3 passer rating in 2 seasons) are the current backups." I don't care what anyone says. That doesn't inspire much confidence if Carson Palmer goes down.

While it might seem pessimstic, unfortunately you have to prepare that Palmer, and every other player, could suffer a season-ending injury on any play. Hell, if Bill Gramatica can tear an ACL jumping in the air celebrating a field goal, no one is safe.

I don't want to suggest that there's a question of durability with Carson Palmer. It's not like he doesn't play when he has a hangnail like a former Cincinnati Reds center fielder in the 80s. Palmer is tough as nails. During the team's 2005 Wild Card game, he suffered a nasty left knee injury that resulted from a "unavoidable" hit by Pittsburgh's Kimo von Oelhoffen. The hit forced the league to establish a new rule that defensive players can't hit quarterbacks low when the hit is avoidable. Note to Tom Brady fanboys: it was Palmer's injury, not Brady's that brought awareness and a rule change. But it was Brady's injury that actually forced the league to call the infractions. No respect for the striped ones.

One doctor described the injury as potentially career-ending.

"It's not just like it was a torn ACL," (Dr. Lonnie) Paulos said Thursday, in a phone interview from Houston. "It's a magnitude more difficult to recover from and repair. It can and has ended careers, without a doubt.

"However, I feel very comfortable with Carson as an athlete and the heart that he's got. In the end, that's the bottom line. I can see the look in his eye already. He's ready to get going," he said.

And Palmer didn't miss a beat. When training camp started and he emerged on the practice field for the first time, fans collectively applauded Palmer's return. Sitting out the first two games of the preseason in 2006, Palmer completed nine of 14 passes for 140 yards passing and three touchdowns in his first action since suffering his injury only six months earlier, kicking off a 48-17 blowout over the Green Bay Packers. Palmer would go on to record his first 4,000-yard passing season of his career, winning the Pro Bowl MVP with two touchdown passes, 190 yards passing on only eight completions for a 127.1 passer rating.

Now that's a comeback. Shred your knee in January. Recover. Play every game and win the MVP in the NFL's All Star game. Other than winning a Super Bowl, can you make a better comeback than that?

But injury has followed Palmer. Suffering a knee ligament strain in week 14 against the New England Patriots, Palmer sat for the last three games in 2004. In 2008, New York Giants' defensive back Corey Webster hit Palmer in the first quarter, eventually causing enough problems with the elbow that Palmer would miss 12 of the next 13 games to cap off 2008.

In the six seasons he's played (he didn't play in 2003), he played a full 16-game schedule in four. And 2009 wasn't a season void of injury. Our crazy tough quarterback decided to play through it. Against the New Orleans Saints in the preseason, Palmer suffered an ankle injury that kept him out for the rest of the preseason, forcing enough worry that he wouldn't be ready for the season opener against the Denver Broncos. He played. Then in the first game against the Baltimore Ravens on October 11, Palmer suffered a sprained left thumb. He taped it, put on a glove and spent the rest of the season FREAKING ME OUT with awkward handoffs with his right hand. All of his handoffs were solid. No problem.

The injuries Palmer has suffered are serious enough that any man would be unavailable to play effectively. So is durability a question? No. Not in my mind. When the Steelers take Palmer on their way towards a Super Bowl, there's not much Palmer can do. When a ligament is strained, or an elbow forces one to lose strengh and throwing power, there's not much Palmer can do.

This brings the point that the Bengals need to upgrade the talent behind Palmer. It's not a method to replace the million-dollar man. No. If Mike Brown is paying the man, the man is starting regardless of struggles. No. But if Palmer's luck continues, and his season is limited, if not shortened by an injury, then the Bengals HAVE to do better than J.T. O'Sullivan and Jordan Palmer. And the Bengals have to do a better job drafting a quarterback, grooming him into a viable backup, unlike the miserable failure that is Jeff Rowe. Is this a desperate need? No. It's not. Is this a need to be addressed that makes sense? Yes. Will the Bengals eventually need a very good backup to keep the team on top of the division? Hell yes.

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I've said this all offseason

They need to draft a QB relatively high, who was a decent college QB. I’d like to see them draft Tony Pike or Dan Lefevour in the 4th or 5th rounds.

by Anthony Cosenza on Apr 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

...

Zac Robinson in the 6th.

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Apr 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Rowe, WTF?

I did not like the fact that the Bengals left Troy Smith on the board and took Rowe just because Rowe was 6’5" tall even though Troy can play football. He had the starting job before getting sick and getting Wally Pipped by Flacco. He will be a starter in the NFL book it, Troy not Rowe.

My question is if Jimmy Claussen is available at 21 do you take him, a la the Packers taking Aaron Rodgers and letting him sit and learn for a few years? If they have him rated as the truly best player available do you take the heir, or pass on him for depth?

by JoseOle on Apr 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

My God, no.

1.) Where exactly would Troy Smith be starting?
2.) They are NOT taking a QB at #21. Especially not dipstick Clausen.

by Anthony Cosenza on Apr 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well.........

In my opinion Troy Smith is better than any QB in Cleveland, St. Louis, San Fransisco, Oakland, Pittsburgh if Big Ben is in jail for raping chicks, Denver, Carolina, Miami, Seattle if Hasselbeck is hurt, Buffalo. He is probably one of the if not the best back up in the NFL because he can come in and win a game, which he’s done in the past at the back up. I wish he was here instead of Ryan Fitzcrazylegs the year he got to play the majority of the games while Carson was down.

by JoseOle on Apr 1, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fitzpatrick didnt have a team around him

Id take Quinn(Denver), Thigpen(Miami), Henne, Pennington and white over him. you just seem like a ohio state fan who wants your old qb to turn into something… unlike most of there qbs COUGH COUGH craig krenzel Cough

"There's no substitute for guts."
-- Paul "Bear" Bryant

by cincyboy on Apr 1, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andre Caldwell and Matt Jones used to be Quarterbacks….just sayin

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven’t been too impressed with JT(Just Turnovers) OSullivan. What would be the downside in signing a JP Losman or Kyle Bollar. Before someone responds, “they suck”. I already know that. However, both are still relatively young. Probably could be signed realitively cheap,if there is such a thing with QBs. Both are former first round picks, so someone thought they had potential. Maybe they aren’t future pro bowlers but could they be groomed into a servicable back up ? Personally, I don’t know. But I will ask the question again. What would be the downside in signing one and bringing him in to compete with JT. They would only keep one. This is an uncap season. So the one they do cut wouldn’t hurt the salary. Bollar is still StL property but he will be let go as soon as the draft is over.

by redberkey on Apr 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Drafting a QB

I would guess the thinking is it’s not a top priority but if one of the prospects is still available from the 4th round on they would probably pull the trigger. If they do draft one fairly high then I would take that as a signal that they aren’t too high on Jordan. Personally I think a veteran back up is a higher priority than grooming a future QB. Pardon by redundancy, but I’m not too impressed with JT.

by redberkey on Apr 1, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t we teach Shirley to play QB?

by Todd G on Apr 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I know that has been suggested before, possibly by me, but I think he’s clearly a more natural fit at QB.

by Todd G on Apr 1, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

My preferences

I think Dan LeFevour will be gone much sooner than anyone thinks, so Zac Robinson or Sean Canfield will probably be our most realistic options.

But you have to wonder…what if Colt McCoy is still there in the fourth? I don’t think it’s likely, but it could happen.

by Big Sky Bengal on Apr 1, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Pike could still be there too

I think he would be a great pick in the 5th
Note: I am a Buckeye, not a Bearcat so there is no homerism there.

by jim0ijk on Apr 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Pike would be a good pick.

But that guy needs to bulk up, or he’s going to get cut in half in the NFL.

by Jaegner on Apr 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he already did for his pro day...

besides, sitting on the bench he’ll get nice and fat, don’t you worry

by The Dealio on Apr 1, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

LeFevour will be gone probably before McCoy and TimT. McCoy is interesting to think about, but we’d have to burn a high pick for him. I agree with the fellow that suggested qbs already in the league. Is Kitna available? And really, Jeff Rowe? It years later and that still confounds me. WTF?

by Welsh on Apr 1, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT???

No way LeFevour will be gone before McCoy ot Tebow. Not that I think highly of either one but both are going to go way higher than LeFevour.

by smoormandiddy on Apr 1, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, yer probably right

But I think he’ll go in 2nd, top 3rd. I think the first statement was also a way of saying the other two are overrated. And I think LeFevour is a little underrated. He’ll get snatched up.

by Welsh on Apr 1, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree.

The backup situation has never been good since Kitna left. It isn’t a knock on Palmer, its about setting yourself up to still win if Palmer goes down.

by goffchile on Apr 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was Martin Gramatica that tore the acl

I know there was 2 or 3 of those pesty Gramaticas running aroung

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Apr 1, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

There are, but it was, in fact, Bill who was injured as described.

by Todd G on Apr 1, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, it took me way too long to figure out what you were doing.

by Todd G on Apr 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha sorry

the way you responded originally made me think of a game show

www.fantasydaddy.com

by Joe Goodberry on Apr 5, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

the best and worst thing about draft a mid round QB

you could waste a 4th round pick on a player like Jeff Rowe
or you could draft a Matt Schaub and get a 1st round pick back in 3 years

www.fantasydaddy.com

by Joe Goodberry on Apr 1, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

well said

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 1, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 hahahah

Big Ben playing back-up to Carson…

Sweet, poetic justice.

by Jaegner on Apr 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

I’d make Ben our starter and Palmer the back up.

Just sayin’

If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't

by trotanoy on Apr 1, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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