Evan Mathis Remains The Only Unsigned RFA: Could the Bengals Be Placing Guard As Biggest Need?
The deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets with another team is midnight tonight. Once 12:00:01 passes, teams will hold exclusive negotiation rights with their restricted free agents. With Brandon Johnson (finally) signing his one-year tender for $1.759 million Thursday afternoon, the Bengals are left with one restricted free agent player that hasn't signed his tender yet. Offensive guard, Evan Mathis.
Here's how it works. If Mathis is looking for another team to offer him a contract, perhaps for some long-term stability (and who doesn't want that?), he has until midnight. After that, he's locked into signing with the Bengals either with the one-year tender or through a contract extension. There's also a financial point that Mathis should be aware of. If he doesn't sign his tender by June 15, the Bengals could reduce the tender to 110% of his 2009 salary.
While he's sitting on it, let's talk about an interesting dynamic that could result (perhaps indirectly) from Mathis' indecision.
First off, we're not here to suggest that the Bengals should be prevented from drafting a guard like Mike Iupati simply because Mathis signs his one-year tender. That's just crazy. Mathis is a good run blocker, but the position is one that's been identified as a need across the board -- it was always a matter of who they drafted and when.
We're pretty confident that the Bengals will draft a guard this year at some point anyway, but if you look at the roster, Bobbie Williams, Nate Livings and Jason Shirley are the team's only guards signed in 2010. That's it. One has to think that if Mathis doesn't sign by draft weekend, the Bengals could identify guard as the team's greatest need. That's right, greatest. First of all, Iupati could become the team's starting guard as soon as the first week of the season. Second of all, the team has no real long-term solution at the position. Why not settle the issue and draft a guard like Iupati if he's available with the team's 21st overall pick? There. You have a starter, as well as a long-term solution to a question that was barely asked.
This much, I know, all of you know. I'm speaking to the choir, rehashing the same things that each and every one of you have thought. Am I right? Our point here is to project what the Bengals might do.
And drafting a guard in the first round is something that they don't do. The team's 2003 second-round pick, Eric Steinbach, is the earliest any guard has been drafted by the Bengals (33rd) in franchise history. You read that right. Cincinnati has never drafted an offensive guard in the first round. Will that change this year? Will Mathis sitting idle push the Bengals to do something they haven't done before? I agree. Why not use the same arguments to draft Iupati, regardless of whether Mathis signs his tender? Simply put, the Bengals haven't historically put much value on guards. Aside from it being a need, the team likely thinks they can get a good long-term guard later in the draft -- and they might be right.
However, if the team identifies Iupati as the best guard available, and if he's there when the Bengals are on the clock, then the team should weigh the fact that they have no long-term solution at the position. Bobbie Williams is signed through 2011 and Livings is signed through 2010. Yet, there's no long-term prodigy and the team will be faced with a bigger need down the road. Furthermore, one could argue that there's really not another starter outside Williams. I like Mathis and Livings. I like big offensive linemen that can run block and keep Carson Palmer upright more.
Could guard be the team's greatest need? That's debatable. The team's situation at safety presents the same arguments that there's no long-term solution manning the position and the depth could use help. It's why Taylor Mays is in the discussion. One could argue that Tight End is a need, therefore putting someone like Jermaine Gresham at the top of one's debate. Could Mathis waiting to sign his tender push the Bengals into drafting Iupati? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, if the Bengals drafted Iupati with their first round pick, it might not be as sexy as Dez Bryant, but it would be a need addressed.
Like I said, it's an interesting dynamic.
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Our biggest problem last year
was not being able to get the offensive to do there job as good as the defense .. Our biggest problem on offense was not being able to pass the ball… The reason we couldn’t pass the ball effectively is because we didn’t give Palmer the necessary time to find open receivers and he smashed his thumb up because of it (so we ran the ball first instead).. YES, YES, and YES offensive guard is our biggest need even over safeties and a tight end..
This is one reason I did a fanpost on LT''s..
If Iupati isn’t there then we still need the BPA at OL. Possibilities across the board with drafting a LT. This is what the Bengals seem to do anyways. Never signing a G in the 1st round, but a LT though…..
Move Whit back to G
Use the new player at G
But you can bet your A** that they will pick up more OLineman in the draft with the short contracts given out and pick up Mays in the 1st.
Underrated
is my opinion of Mathis. I read where he didn’t give up a sack. Considering the lack of a threat from the TE position. The lack of talent at WR. The fact that we have a QB who is not known as a scrambler and Off. Cor. who rarely uses play action or roll out plays is it a wonder they didn’t give up more sacks then they did. The objective was to be a run first offense. They succeeded in that. Even when Benson went down a rookie 6th round pick and an aging RB each had 100 yard games. I’m surprised Mathis hasn’t gotten more interest. I think WHYUS has a good point, there no doubt will be a solid OT when they get to 21 but my hope is they take the best player available, hopefully a defensive playmaker.
Wow Kirk...
That was a Iupati love fest…. you said they could pick one anywhere in the Draft but only mentioned Iupati by name and in multiple paragraphs. And talk multiple times only about the first round.
I’m guessing you want Iupati…. Mitch Petrus, Brandon Carter and Jon Asamouh are just as good options in later rounds
Our talent at guard is defintiely better than TE…
Our Safeties are over 30, one is on a one year deal and the starters haven’t played a full season since 2006… both of them
WR is just like the guard position in that we got a older guy holding it down but will be done in a couple years (as far as productivity) and the rest are ?’s behind them…. so they both need a future guy to be groomed there… WR wins because its higher on the important list than guard as far as picking goes…
How many pro bowl guards were picked in the mid rounds… History has shown you can get a great guard in the 2nd or 3rd. Guard will never be our biggest need until were picking in the 30’s.
And just like you don’t think TE is going to be picked high, you should be thinking the same thing. Guard isn’t high on the importance totem pole and we rarely pick them high.
RE:
Actually, that wasn’t my point at all. I just used Iupati as an example IF that’s the direction that they want to go. But they’ve also shown interest in Iupati, so love fest or not, the Bengals could be looking in that direction.
And we’ve talked about Asamouh in several posts before. Just not THIS post.
Our talent at guard is defintiely better than TE…
Yep. But you have to consider that the Bengals use guard more than TE. Rating talent or importance based on your assumption isn’t enough. You have to consider and weigh how they use that position or how important a position is.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 16, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Shirley
Isn’t Jason Shirley already out for the season with, what, an Achilles tear?
by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 15, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
RE: Shirley
There’s been no official word on Shirley. All we know is that he’s having surgery and that a time frame could exist that he returns by October. So, no. He’s not officially out and at best, he’d be placed on PUP to start the season. Of course, he could be out all season too. Who knows?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 16, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Cincinnati has never drafted an offensive guard in the first round.
And how has that worked out for them?
They were very lucky that Steinbach fell to them, then very unlucky that Hutchinson got a mega-deal that opened the doors for Cleveland’s huge offer. I’d love to see the Bengals start drafting decent o-linemen, but worried that they wouldn’t be able to pay to keep them anyway.
My view of our needs
1. Free safety. This is a key position, in my view, and we need a long-term answer. Madieu was intended to be this, but that didn’t quite work out.
2. Guard. The trio of (now older) Bobbie, Mathis, and Livings is perfectly fine—even elite, at times—but there’s room for long-term improvement.
3. Pass rush. I don’t care if it’s from a DE or SLB (though I suspect we’ll get a SLB in the first four rounds), we need it desperately.
4. TE. I know we’d all love to have one, but TEs aren’t as important as pass coverage, pass rush, or being able to give the QB time with just five guys.
If Earl Thomas isn’t there, I say we take Pouncey. I think he’s more polished than Iupati, and he’s allegedly a better pass-blocker, as well.
by Big Sky Bengal on Apr 16, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
No to Pouncey
A bunch of people like Joe Reedy have said it perfect… We need a G\T combo like Scott koostra. We have our center and our C\G in Luigs. We need a guy like Stenbach that will play guard or tackle
Yes to Pouncy
He is a great combination player. I really like Cook. He is the unsung hero of out Oline, but behind him we have Luigs who gives me the impression that he cannot play the center/guard combination. I realize that he was only a rookie but I have huge concerns about him. Pouncy is a center who can play well at guard and will solidify the Oline. I would settle for Iutapi as I like him a lot too and I think either would improve us.
But if one of the two excellent safety prospects, most likely Thomas fell to us we have to take him. He is a hitter who has the speed to cover. I won’t compare him to Polomalu as that is a huge leap but he could have a similar effect for us in a division where we play against some stellar Safeties and have a pass heavy schedule coming up. I am not so concerned with the back end of our secondary but without a trio of really good pass defending LBs, we some help in the 10-20 yard deep area. That is our biggest area of weakness on D IMO. Fix that and we go from a very good D to a great one.
"Coincidence is God's way of staying anonymous"
I meant to add........
There are good player at all positions in the first 4 rounds where we have 6 picks. All of the skilled positions who are likely to fall to us have some risks. When in doubt solidify and improve the Oline as you Oline is never too good. A great Oline make everyone else on the team better, even the D as long sustained drives keep the D rested and the opposing O off the field.
"Coincidence is God's way of staying anonymous"
Never draft a guard in round 1
Good ones can be had later. It’s just not good value for the pick, almost always.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Apr 16, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions
We already have good players. Good players play for good teams. I want more than that.
"Coincidence is God's way of staying anonymous"
we need mathis... he was one of our most reliable OL last year.
that would be dumb of us to let him walk.
Running out to frontyard laughing! -Fat Vegas Alan
RE:
No, he won’t walk. Unless the Bengals pull their tender, all Mathis has to do is sign. And now that the deadline has already passed, Mathis has no other choice but to sign with Cincinnati if he wants to play football. I’m sure he will.
Still, it will be interesting to see how the Bengals react. Will they want to go out and draft a guard in the first round in response to several concerns — one being lack of depth, the other being long-term starters?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 16, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
you said
“pull their tender”. Uh-huhuhuhuh.
I get the feeling the Bengals FO pull their tender often.
Oh, real mature Mike.
:)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 16, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Best available
DL, DB/S, OL in that order. I’d realy like another DT for the rotation and there are 4 or 5 worthy of first round consideration this year. The defense was not as stout at the end of the season when Peko, Tank, and Sims had their injuries. Good middle defense will let the linebackers and DEs make plays.

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