If the Bengals draft Dez Bryant, do you worry about the so-called "red flags"?
The question about Dez Bryant right now is this: if he's there, do you take him? Why do we ask about such silly things? Especially now, when the topic has been raised several times. Fine, don't answer it. You've probably made the choice up in your mind and like most of you, expressed that in other posts. Earlier this week, it was reported that Bryant will visit with the Bengals. We didn't know when. And after what was reported as an average workout that, if anything, made Bryant available with the Bengals 21st pick all the more possible. Have you read the mock drafts? Notice how Bryant is falling, falling, falling?
I like the idea personally. I like the idea of our passing offense having a trio of threats at wide receiver, reminiscent of the days with Chad Ochocinco, T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chris Henry. In fact, it makes me giddy. We have the league's fourth best defense from last year with our starters returning. With eight more picks in the NFL Draft and most experts claiming this to be a defensive-heavy draft, we can still improve those spots. But a top prospect at wide receiver playing as the team's third receiver in three-wide formations? I'm giddy. Think of it. Chad finds himself increasingly back in single-coverage. With the team's rushing offense, play-action becomes twice as nasty. We could actually be where we thought we should have been in 2005 when we were excited about the team's future that went nowhere. Except this time, you get the feeling that our foundation and core is far stronger. Repeat champions, this time with a killer passing offense again? I'm to the point that I don't just think we will, I'm starting to expect it. Is that right? Yea, I'm giddy.
But I'm giddy at the idea of Bryant, not necessarily the fact that there's several weeks to go before the thought will even take form. And there's always the very likely chance that Bryant is drafted before the Bengals 21st overall pick. Teams like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers hosted Bryant. Dallas, who is interested, could always jump over the Bengals in a draft-day trade. The Miami Dolphins, who pick 12th, are going to meet with the receiver.
And there's the whole questionable character thing that's been brought up. Most of you guys know me. I put far less value on "character" than most. I'm not talking about guys that break the law and run the risk of being suspended by the NFL. Obviously if you can't trust players to make the right decisions, worried that they'll miss critical division games because they're suspended, then they're not worth taking a flyer on -- especially if you're using the draft pick for a spot on the roster that's critical. Does Bryant fall in that category?
Charles Robinson writes.
At first, the grumbling about him amongst talent evaluators made you think about Michael Crabtree(notes) last season. But Bryant’s buzz definitely seems worse in recent days. Failing to take part in the NFL scouting combine rubbed some the wrong way. And personnel departments were already touting stories about Bryant’s tardiness in college when the news came out that he was staging his own “private” one-man pro day. That move wasn’t exactly well-received in some league corners, and it didn’t get much better when he produced a less than stellar workout, forgetting a pair of preferred cleats and clocking around 4.6 seconds in the 40-yard dash. Add in his lengthy suspension his last season at Oklahoma State for lying to the NCAA, and you have enough red flags to line the United Nations. Not to mention a perceived top 7 status that is slipping into the 20s.
I like Charles Robinson, but aren't we getting a little full with ourselves? OK, forgetting a pair of cleats on a day that you're basically interviewing for a job doesn't bode well. I get that. But is the risk within the team, or just the player? Lying to the NCAA? Have you seen their standards and over-zealous rules? They're unforgiving and if you admit to anything, you'll face a suspension or your school faces penalties anyway. In a way, the NCAA promotes lying, especially when when you lied about your interaction with Deion Sanders. Big deal, right? Late to class? Who hasn't done that? Are we looking for academia or professional football players? So he elects to have a private workout rather than take part in the Combine. Again, what's the risk to the team? We're Bengals fans. We know red flags when we see them. Bryant isn't a red flag.
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after much thought....
This dude is a beast. If he falls to us we should not even hesitate. picking him would instantly have the CBS and defensive coordinators losing slEep at night wandering how to defend us. Also everyone says we need to improve our secondary to cover our divisions increasing passing attack, but boy would this turn the tables on that notion. Insted of reacting to them let’s make them react to us.
by quickslant on Apr 2, 2010 11:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
RE:
The question is like this.
Does Dez Bryant improve the offense more than any defensive player would improve the defense?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 2, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
great question
I ’d really like to see him on our squad….
yet another question remains, at what point in the 1st Round do the players lose bargaining power and make it easier on the Bengals to get them to camp on time?
Since 20 teams passed up on him – thus “it’s over with” for them – he should have been a Top 5 pick and deservedly should receive a $68.8 Million contract, $68.3M of which is guaranteed?
just curious, lol
3 yards and a pile of dust
by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 2, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Mayock
Has Bryant listed as the best offensive prospect in the draft, ahead of Bradford. I think he’ll help just fine.
It depends
on who falls to us. If Thomas fell to us, which looks less and less likely every day, then I think his addition would solidify the defense for years to come, but if it’s a guy like Brandon Graham, then Dez would make the bigger impact.
This is our year!
Hmmm
i think you could argue that, because we have a probowl quality QB who didn’t look like one last year…. we need to fix two things:
Pass protection, WR ability.
Dez adds to one of those… so the risk is warranted. I’ll add another question to yours
does Dez improve the offense enough to give the defence more time to rest and more points to defend? We have a top notch running game that gives the D resting time… but add another red zone target and playmaker and we might turn us from an 18-20 points per game to a 23-28 points per game team
by Sheffieldbengal on Apr 2, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That depends if Carson can get him the ball
If I have to choose between him and Mays (assuming Thomas is gone) I am taking Bryant, So we can have 2 Bryants ;)
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by TennBengalfan on Apr 2, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the red flags can
be summed up as a general mark of immaturity in Dez. He just sounds like a kid lost in a ruthless business world. I think if we had nothing at WR (no Ocho, no Bryant and no Caldwell) then this would become a bigger issue. If we needed a WR like mad (kinda like the Dolphins etc) then his inability to get the business of football would become more important.
But with our decent stable of WRs we can make him fight for everything (ala unlike Crabtree who was handed everything) and let him watch how guys who work hard (Ocho) or have realized later in their career how important hard work is (Bryant). This will let him emerge later and become more mature than other teams who NEED him to play from day one.
Letting him emerge at the right rate will let us get another weapon for the second half of the season and also get him mature
by Sheffieldbengal on Apr 2, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Great points
Plus with this team, he could mature within the team and grow. This lockerroom today is one of the reasons I don’t mind the risk on “character” issues — even though I think the “character” question on Dez is overblown. Immaturity, yea. That’s a better description.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 2, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Dez is a good pick
and I wouldn’t be mad at taking him, but I’d still take a S or a OL if they were available, Otherwise, I’d take Bryant no doubt. If a S or OL is taken in the first, there’s always hope for Mardy, or Damien in the later rounds. Or maybe turn McCluster into a WR. That guy is unstoppable in space.
Picking up
Dez Bryant at that point in the draft would be a steal. He has size, speed, and of course, hands. He would a a great addition to this squad and I would love for us to pick him up.
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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Apr 2, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
bryant
randy moss sliped to 24 or something because of red flags and he broke out. i think if bryant slips to us we need to grab him he could be really good. we will all be pisses if someone els after us takes a chance and he turns out to be a monster.
I'm 100% Convinced
that there is NO WAY Dez Bryant gets past Seattle at #14. I know its sexy right now to talk about his off-the-field issues, but he will mature and he will, I think, be torturing D coordinators for the next ten years.
by Bengals NFL Champs on Apr 2, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
Earl Thomas
is probably the only player I’d take ahead of Bryant (out of the players we could reasonably get, of course). Whoever said immaturity is dead-on. He’s not a bad guy, he’s a 21 year old guy under more scrutiny than most people will ever experience.
Dez Bryant would be our eventual replacement for Ocho, of that I am as sure as I can be.
Terminology
Dez clearly doesn’t have character issues—he got suspended for a ridiculous reason—I’d say they’re more personality issues. True serious criminals in the NFL are rare; personality problems are more common. I’m thinking along the lines of Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Jeremy Shockey, Julius Peppers. It doesn’t necessarily mean they can’t contribute, but I want either a key value position (not something fungible like WR) or a leader in the first round.
And given Sheppard’s failure to develop WRs, I’d rather take someone self-motivated. Sure, all we have to work with are vague rumors and concerns, but there are guys that are free of those, who we can get later on.

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