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Pre-Draft Open Thread

The NFL Draft starts in seven hours, give or take a few seconds based on the accuracy of the SB Nation and official NFL Draft clock. As the clock ticks down and anticipation builds, the Bengals massive scouting department is assuredly arguing vehemently as the draft board cements into place. As you and I, we, the fans prepare for this year's edition of wild speculation and sometimes unfounded player projections and prognostication, here are some fun things that we can look at.

"For each team's picks from 2000 to 2007, Footballl Outsiders calculated the Games Started Above Average (GSAA), a weird-science metric that compares the number of starts a player had during his first five seasons to the starts of a baseline player of similar draft value. But we also factored in the draft history, expertise of decision-makers and overall efficiency of every operation to get our 1-32 ranking."

29. Cincinnati Bengals

Team president Mike Brown oversees the league's leanest scouting operation, while coach Marvin Lewis occasionally weighs in. Their record includes quality corners (Leon Hall, '07, RD1) and linebackers (Rey Maualuga, '09, RD2). If only Cincy's picks spent more time with the team than with the cops.

 

 

GSAA: Minus-1.15

 

Today, the first round of the draft starts at 7:30 PM. There will be 32 selections, all of which will take approximately 10 minutes, but based on last year's first round that took 3 hours and 23 minutes, all 320 minutes (over 5 hours) may not be used. Then again, since the first round now has an entire night to itself, it might be a little bit longer this year. 

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Lets Get This Party Started!!

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope when it all comes down in about 11 hours when we select, I hope “Dez Bryant WR/Oklahoma State” gets announced for the pick by the Cincinnati Bengals.

The thing that scares me is that a team like Baltimore trades up to Atlanta and selects Dez Bryant if he were to fall into our laps.

Going into the draft here is how I think our big board looks like.

1.) Earl Thomas
2.) Joe Haden
3.) Dez Bryant
4.) Jason Pierre-Paul
5.) Taylor Mays
6.) Jermaine Gresham

I just don’t think we will go with Gresham, and I think Gronkowski is our TE of choice followe by Dorin Dickerson and one of these two will go in round 2 to us

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see Baltimore chase Bryant, either

If Bryant’s gone, of those guys you listed, I think it’d be a waste to draft Gresham with the plethora of 2nd round TE talent that will be available, between Gronkowski, Dickerson, McCoy, etc. I’m afraid of Taylor Mays’ coverage. If Thomas falls that far, I’d be ecstatic.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Earl Thomas won’t fall, I just do not see it happening, Dallas Cowboys will trade up to get Earl if he slips past San Francisco.

I agree with your statement, I think it is a waste of a pick to draft Gresham, I think you put him on 50% of the other teams, he puts up 7-8 TD’s this year, on the Bengals he gets 2-3 with 400 reception yards at best.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who are you? You write for the Enquirer?

Or is that a joke?

I think, at 21, the Bengals will be looking at Mays and Gresham of those guys. I don’t see anyone else slipping. At that point, maybe you trade down. I don’t think Demaryius Thomas is a first round talent, his lack of pro-route experience makes him Jerome Simpson #2 to me. I think Kindle is a reach. We’re just going to have to pray, I think, for someone to slip unexpectedly to 21.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

JSL

Nope, 100% serious, I write for the enquirer.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, pray

I also have been Fasting (HaHa). Would be shocked if we traded up. After all, since we are going for depth and BPA, trading up is “but a dream.” Just hope they don’t pick a no name, since they are not looking for a starter

by justRick on Apr 22, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ESPN Draft had Mays falling

I think that Mcshay and company mocked Mays to fall to the 49th pick in the draft. That’s second round. It’ll be an interesting draft that’s for sure.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Apr 22, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you don't believe me

Click here. You might need ESPN insider to see it.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Apr 22, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flip Flop...

Pierre-Paul in to the #2 spot and exit Haden all together,and add a surprise name RB CJ Siller

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Pierre-Paul

is another Vernon Gholston. Period.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

I don’t know how I feel about that, because you are probably 100% true. I just don’t know if that is a good statement or a bad one.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson still has a promising career ahead of him.

Pierre-Paul reminds me of him. A lot.

I watched JPP against UC, but that’s the only time I saw him play. He could be great, but I think there are surer things.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh No You Didnt..

just cause Gholston was a workout warrior,doesnt make everyone that has a great workout is Gholston bust

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he played one year of division 1 college ball

and his stats weren’t out of this world. he’s largely considered to be the biggest bust risk in this draft.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Apr 22, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vernon Gholston stats:
37 Tackles
25 solo tackles
14 sacks
(his Junior year)

Pierre Paul
42 Tackles
26 solo tackles
6 sacks
1 INT

While he only played in what 7 games, those stats are pretty incredible. But 7 games is all we are basing him off of and that to me is WAY too scary and he shows bust and athleticism like Vernon.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

if you look at J-PP’s score in the combine he isn’t exactly the most athletic around and for someone who is seen as a pure-physical prospect that worries me. I wouldn’t draft J-PP in the first and i don’t think he will be by the Bengals… but you never know.

by Sheffieldbengal on Apr 22, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember...

This is Ceds last year on his contract,so you must put a surprise pick of RB CJ Siller in your top 6 at #21

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spiller

isn’t really a good choice to take over from Benson… we need a bruiser to replace Benson when Brown cheaps out.

by Sheffieldbengal on Apr 22, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Myself Want S Earl Thomas

I think the safety spot is like the TE spot,alot a ? marks and health issues

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing that might piss me off in roughly 9 hours:

The Bengals might only have to give up their 1st and 3rd rounder, or even 1st 4th and 5th to move into a position to draft Thomas. Or Bryant. Or whoever else.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dez Bryant is the pick

you heard it here first

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Al davis will make a ridiculous pick

and things will go nuts from there

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just kidding.

But I think it could be hilarious. I hate the guy.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

whew

jsl you’re scarin the hell outta me

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be here all night. And tomorrow night. And Saturday morning.

And then I’ll fall asleep of boredom/exhaustion in the 6th round.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Does The League..

I mean where does it say you cant drink with a woman and hope shes got bud blindness till 6am? haha

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Read Jerry Jones..

is fielding calls on veteran players,Bennett perhaps?

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

alright yall

lets see what ya think of this:

Dexter McCluster 2nd round (thus bust)
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah and Anthony McCoy in the 3rd

MEGA guess… Clifton Geathers in the 6th?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see McCluster either.

I can definitely see Owusu-Ansah in the 3rd though. I think that’s a pretty likely pick. McCoy would be awesome as well – either him or Gronkowski.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll stop, just let me get this out of my system

I love Samoan players, if things worked out I would love to have more

by Rocket_Man_G on Apr 22, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Tyson Alualu in the 2nd

He’s not exactly Samaon but a Pacific rimmer none the less…

Would create the Pacific Rim Triangle with him next to Peko and Rey when he moves inside

by Jaydolla on Apr 22, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whos Your Surprise Pick?

Mine is RB CJ Siller with Ced in his last year of his contract.

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I just don't think he'll be there.

My surprise pick is anyone we haven’t heard of.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok Jake..

IF hes there,do you take him?

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

surprise pick

Odrick

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember..

we have shored up some WR issues,and dont forget we still have Simpson (who I like alot given a fair chance),but this is Ceds last year,and Scott is a change a pace back and showed last year he was able to handle the big load game after game.

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see some Spiller|Scott similarities

I think the Bengals probably like Gerhart too. I don’t see Spiller at 21. I also wouldn’t be shocked if the Bengals drafted him.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gerhardt

is exactly who I was going to say for surprise pick. He’d pick up right where Ced left off.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Football Outsiders
FO_BBarnwell
  
Biggest fallers from this time last year: J. Gresham (#5), C. McCoy (#6), A. Ulatoski (#9), C. Black (#11), G. Atkins (#12), G. Selvie (#16)

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

has anyone been watching the jon gruden camp pieces

on espn.com?

made me fall in love with thomas and spiller.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Apr 22, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

saw some slivers of the

qb ones….

you say The Earl was on there?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it went up yesterday.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Apr 22, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soooo...

What happen to Marvin Lewis’s talk on shoring up the TE spot before draft day,more smoke?

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

got memory....

yeah…smoke smoke smoke….

you never get anything out of Marvin:

“we’re looking to make our football team a better football team with higher football knowledge and so on and so forth, and that’s a good thing”

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK I am officially anxious now

I took two vacation days from work so I could listen to all the talking, now i am ready

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, lets get this over with so

we can start researching the new players, right?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Also Believe Fridays Draft Day..

will be the most exciting of the 3 days of coverage.

by Primal on Apr 22, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have info

on Myron Rolle-S. Mid round pick?

by featherman on Apr 22, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

projected 2nd or 3rd rounder, i think.

Rhodes scholar that opted to forego the draft to pursue a Masters at Oxford(?)

pretty nice Safety from Florida State

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Myron Rolle is a 5th round graded prospect who could go as high as round 3.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

some folks I'd really like to see us get somewhere in this draft

Earl Thomas
Demayius Thomas
Dorin Dickerson
Joe Webb
Carlos Dunlap
LeRoy Vann
Geno Atkins
Jameson Konz
John Jerry
Mike Iupati
Tyson Alualu
Koa Misi
Myron Rolle

by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 22, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't see

Clifton Geathers on that list

Jumpy Jr’s bro……. arrested……. that’s got Mikey written all over it, what say you?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a South Carolina fan

I never could get behind Geathers. I never saw a player that big, make so few plays. He will be overdrafted by a 3-4 team as a DE. He just doesn’t make me think he can play in the NFL.

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the analysis. I’ve been wondering bout this guy.

I def agree with you that he seems to be an ideal 3-4 DE.

just saw brother of current player, arrested…. ya know where i’m goin

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah no doubt

If we pick a SC guy, I want the high effort Eric Norwood, or in like the 5th round SS Darien Stewart. Stewart brings the hammer and Norwood has a relentless motor. Norwood is just a liability in coverage.

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strong-side 'backer

How about A.J. Edds, Iowa to take over outside when Maualuga moves over to the middle? Seems like a solid player we could get in the middle rounds.

by Heywood on Apr 22, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

My first-round list

1. Earl Thomas, of course. But I think he’s either going to go in the top ten, or someone will trade up to get him (and I doubt it’ll be us).

2. Kyle Wilson. Look at our last few first-round picks…Leon is theoretically a number two corner (I think he’s our real number one), Rivers is a WLB, Andre Smith is a RT. We haven’t usually gone after key positions in round one, so I can see us spending our first-rounder on a number three CB.

3. Maurkice Pouncey. I think he’s underrated, and we do like our offensive linemen to be versatile.

4. Dez Bryant. It may seem strange to have him this low, but I’m a bit worried about his personality. Could be meaningless conjecture, could be serious. But I’m very risk-averse.

5. Nate Allen. In this scenario, we’d trade down. I can’t imagine him falling to us in the second, I think someone will grab him in the late first/super-early second.

As for players I’d like us to get in later rounds…Moeaki or McCoy, Norwood or AJ Edds (great SLBs), Taylor Price, and some sort of workhorse RB.

by Big Sky Bengal on Apr 22, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like a few people are high on Edds.

I hope they don’t drop a pick on a 3rd CB.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

should say first round pick

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

…I’m high on Morgan Trent, and I don’t think that David Jones is as bad as some people have made him out to be. But if Thomas and Bryant are gone, I think that Wilson is a safer bet than Gresham, Mays, or Iupati.

by Big Sky Bengal on Apr 22, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

How bout Roddrick Muckelroy?

if anything for the name

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

John Thornton

Nope. Top 5 talent RT @werdnADucker: would you pass on Dez for Mays?
JohnThornton (JohnThornton),

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

alright, how do we feel about Dez Bryant vs Earl Thomas? who’d you pick?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Thomas and it is not even close

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, ok

damn, not even close, eh?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the WR class is deeper

Plus Thomas is just a ridiculous ball-hawking safety that we don’t have

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, guess you're right

guess i’m surprised. no issues, Dez is a Top 10 Pick. And the “issues” are BS, man, he lied to NCAA, but what else?

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and his lie was about something that wouldn’t even have been a violation. It seems weird that the media has pegged this guy as a problem child.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Apr 22, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you guys think it's just that

the media has pegged him as a problem child? Or do you think there’s truth to the notion that a significant amount of teams see him that way too? I agree that the perception surrounding DB is very strange.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think its the media…. anything to stir up some drama…. effin media

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow…. srsly Jaegs?

Can’t believe it yall.

9 needs someone to throw it to.

Remember: 2 Bryants are better than 1

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha I'm all about Dez, man

don’t get me wrong. It’s a close call, but like Kabash said, Thomas brings that playmaking ability to our secondary. I want us to have our own Ed Reed.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way he drops past the top 15.

I just can’t see it because he looks pretty freaking special.

by IFChris on Apr 22, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

aright yall: i give you, Pat Kirwan vs Peter Schrager:

Kirwan
@#54 Tyson Alualu
@#84 Myron Lewis
@#96 Eric Decker

Schrager
@#54 Morgan Burnett
@#84 Mardy GIlyard
@#96 Thaddeus Gibson

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on Apr 22, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I am assuming Gresham @#21

I love Burnett at 54, and Gilyard at 84, I don’t like Gibson though.

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What up, suckas?

It’s draft day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by IFChris on Apr 22, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

long time no see guys

Im so excited for the draft

www.fantasydaddy.com

by Joe Goodberry on Apr 22, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Gonna have to go with Dez Bryant

he has got to be raring to go after having to sit out last year. He is an elite athlete and playmaker. It is hard to guess how long Ocho will be in Bengal stripes so Bryant would be a great replacement. He should be able to contribute right away as well.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 22, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, where did Primal go

I didn’t mean to scare him off

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone besides me plop down $27 for the Mel Kiper Draft Guide

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I sure didn't!

But I look forward to the insights from it you’ll share with us ;)

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

will gladly provide it on any obscure picks it may help with

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once we get passed the 3rd round, I'll be clueless

That’s why I’m glad we have people like you and Thundering Turtle (hopefully) on draft day!

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet he is man, I would be

They’re costing him a lot of money. Luckily, they may also help him get on a good team. Like the Bengals.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

With him and Chad

we could have the league’s two most misunderstood wide outs.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

Honestly, I can’t blame him. But at the same time, he needs a crash course on how to let this stuff slide off his back. A little thick skin, ignore the media, etc.. what else can you do at this point?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

Whining is just gonna make it worse. But I feel for the guy

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he whining or simply responding with his side?

I’d be pretty pissed if these guys were asking misleading questions just to see if I’d get mad or putting diva reports out there.

by IFChris on Apr 22, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

sh!tbag roethliberger

big ben goes to raiders for 8th overall and mcfadden or 8th overall,3rd and 5th. heard it here first, put it in the book. glad he`s out of our division

by tbarber64 on Apr 22, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i gotta good source from pitts office, so we should see soon. heard hes gonna go, rooneys are more than pissed and no one is safe

by tbarber64 on Apr 22, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting. I hope you're right.

Adam Schefter just tweeted that it’s “highly unlikely” that Roethlisberger is traded. I’d love to see him out of the division on some terrible team like Oakland, but I’m not optimistic that it’ll happen.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read Detroit offered the 66th pick to OAK

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

For McFadden??

Wow, way higher than I would want to give!

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just heard from a reliable inside source, that Jermaine Gresham and Dez Bryant are the two people we have been debating back and forth upon drafting with. Taylor Mays is not in the top 5 on our big board, but we have

1.) Gresham
2.) Bryant
3.) Iupati

as our top 3.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Not much of a surprise

Even though I still hope Earl Thomas drops somehow. Just don’t see it.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right about that.

I like that top 3, and I’m not high on Mays either.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still think not much of a drop off in the 2nd and 3rd round tight ends.

And who knows how far Anthony McCoy could drop. Reports are he failed a Urine test at the combine. Could knock him into the fourth.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

he tested positive for pot, I personally think if Dez Bryant is there it makes more logical sense to get him then Dorin Dickerson or Rob Gronkowski in round 2, but I also heard we might wait until round 3 (comp) to select Riley Cooper WR/Florida.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dez Bryant is there we take him, I think.

We can get a TE in rounds 3 or 4. Gronkowski was there in round 2 then yea we could pull the trigger in round 2.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh

I heard Mike is leaning towards Dez and Marvin wants Jermaine. Should be interesting.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I trust Marvin, but I would rather have Dez. Just me though!

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So this is what I heard and it makes little sense to me.

We are wanting to run the ball more this coming season and this is why we are drafting Jermaine Gresham the second we get the chance.

So once again (2nd year in a row) we are drafting a primary pass catching TE and trying to turn him into a blocking threat.

This angers me.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got some sources

The reason why more are weighing in on Gresham because they want to want him to primarily a red zone threat and a blocking TE instead of stretching the field.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

Sounds reasonable.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a huge waste of a pick.

If you want a TE for a Red Zone thread only, you don’t draft him in the first round. That’s what Gronkowski, etc. are good for. Gresham is a gamebreaker. If he’s goin to be primarily used as a red zone guy, it’s a waste to me.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m on the Gresham bandwagon, but if they’re not going to use him to his full potential, then just draft a TE later.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gresham above Bryant is disappointing

only due to the plethora of TE talent available later. Although, if Gresham is a phenom, I won’t be complaining.

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

not bad, failed urine test only drops ya a few rounds these days. sign of the times

by tbarber64 on Apr 22, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Who would jump on Anthony McCoy in the late 4th?

Its possible with the urine. Most had him projected as a 3rd rounder. Especially if we hadn’t addressed TE by then. I’m not sure we will wait that long though.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude

If they haven’t picked up a TE by round 4 and McCoy is there, they better take him, or I will fly all the way from the UK to pay the Bengals war room a visit.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possible with the Bengals.

It all depends on how the Tight Ends start coming off the board. you may be in round 3 with only 2 TE taken. I say BPA. That being said wouldn’t be the first draft that we are wondering what Mikey is thinking.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy Moss had weed issues as well....

he turned out to be pretty good.

From what I have read, a larger portion of the potential draft picks has tested positive somewhere along the way. This is getting to be a bigger issue than in years past. It seems most teams are getting over it and taking them anyway. I would.

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by SevenRings on Apr 22, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Surprise

I bet someone very surprisingly good will fall to us at 21 a la Oher lat year to Baltimore.. Maybe Dan Williams the St from Tenn.

by quickslant on Apr 22, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I would personally like to see Rolando McClain

drop to us. I seriously doubt he will and I don’t know if the Bengals would take a LB in the first. However, I think he will be stud in the League for years.

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by SevenRings on Apr 22, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be upset with that pick.

I think we could do a lot worse on the pick than that.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Taylor mays man,..

taylor mays… OR, bpa

85 + 15 = 100...

by Trevor Long on Apr 22, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sold on Taylor Mays

I’m still not sold on Taylor Mays. I’d rather see Earl Thomas. Earl Thomas and Roy Williams. Gives us the ball hawk and the hard hitting enforcer. I wouldn’t be entirely upset with Mays though. Depending on how the 2nd and 3rd play out.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would anyone be upset if we selected Iuputi?

I hope someone better falls but this would not be a bad selection. What does everyone else think. I see NC 17 had him number 3 on our big board according to his source.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Definitely would not be upset.

There’s a few guys I’d take over him but Iupati would be a solid pick up for sure. You can never invest too much into the o-line.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda my thoughts.

Very solid pick. I think we are all hopeful that someone very surprising falls to us. A Great draft could propel us to an elite team.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My 1st round pick, for what it's worth...

There are four guys I would trade up for: DT Gerald McCoy, FS Eric Berry, DE Derrick Morgan, MB Rolando McClain (in that order). I don’t see those happening…If we stay at 21 and DE Brandon Graham is there, that would be my pick…If not, I would trade down and take DE Everson Griffen…Everybody else in the first, I’m not sold on other than OT Okung, OB Weatherspoon, CB Haden, CB Robinson, and CB McCourty but I don’t think the need is there for those guys…

by huntnevachey on Apr 22, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone can bust.

I think that has been proven over the years. I really don’t see Earl Thomas being a bust though. Been wrong before, but I would be ecstatic if we were able to get Thomas. I seen somewhere they are rating him above Berry. Kirwan I think.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take Berry.

I personally would take Berry without hesitation.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't think so either,

in my mind it’s a no-brainer though. I agree with what a few people on here have said – that we’re only a few players away from being a perennial playoff team. If we need to throw down multiple picks in order to acquire one elite player (especially one that fills a need for us), then do it!

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as a FS.

I like him as a corner but we don’t have the need in the first.

by huntnevachey on Apr 22, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like him as FS

Can also play Nickel Corner. Love the versitility too. Love to Thomas as our Safety.

by C1ncy4Life on Apr 22, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

The Draft starts at 7:30 on ESPN

What time do you think the clock will start for the first pick?

And what time (approximately) do you think the Bengals will make their selection? Before 10:30?

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by SevenRings on Apr 22, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

9:30ish

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope I get off work at 10:00 o'clock

And Thursday is College Night at the local night club where I’m at.. So I want to know the pick before 10 !

by JamesShively on Apr 22, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

After taking it all in..

I hope we somehow can get Earl Thomas. If trading up would not cost us the ranch, I say pull the trigger. Even though I like Mays, am worried he’s another Marvin White.. going for the destructive hit rather than the sure tackle. In the NFL, players don’t go down as easily as in college. In light of this, I would do more back flips than Jason Pierre-Paul if we could get Dez Bryant with our first and Nate Allen with our second. This would amp things up quite nicely. Beadles or Render might still be there in the 3rd, and we get our Left Guard. All systems go!!

by justRick on Apr 22, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Possible picks? Being heard at radio city

Rams will take Bradford
Redskins take Berry

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

My 2nd round pick, for what it's worth...

I think we’ve gotta go TE…Not sold on Gresham in the first…I would take Dennis Pitta, Aaron Hernandez, or Ed Dickson…I have them rated higher than Gronkowski and I’ve got Dickerson and McCoy rated as 3rd rounders…

by huntnevachey on Apr 22, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha seriously

I feel like I’ve typed the same comment about a thousand times now. 2 more hours.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengals Trivia

Who was the Bengals defensive coordinator the last time Cincinnati went to the Super Bowl?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

That was my guess

and then they bumped him up to HC when they got rid of Wyche?

by huntnevachey on Apr 22, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

That was the start of Dave Shula era. Anyone want to guess the defensive coordinator in Shula’s first year?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

I’ll give you a clue, his name was Robb.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

DING!

Too easy? Thought some of the younger farts would find that interesting.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

Well, the other day I was walking in downtown Dayton and saw a total babe. So I spun around to check her out and my back has been sore since… just saying. :)

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

New question:

Who is the defensive coordinator for the Bengals’ next Super Bowl appearance?

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jaegner.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Brown

I also believe that he will be the OC and HC by it is all said and done.

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by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trivia question for us old farts..

What former Bengal QB went to the Chicago Fire of the now defunct World Football League?

by justRick on Apr 22, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Virgil?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!!

Akili defiled his jersey number

by justRick on Apr 22, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've had lots of Virgil Carter trivia in the past.

He’s always good for a few questions. :)

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm new to this blog

Thought he was pretty decent, but perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me

by justRick on Apr 22, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that will happen 11-20

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by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of chatter.. Seem's the Browns are wanting to make moves

as well as the Broncos.. I think it’s going to get interesting.. That’s one thing the Experts never try to predict.. Trades up and down..

by JamesShively on Apr 22, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE

To be honest, I remember the same amount of chatter last year in the hours leading up to the draft.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN

is talking about the Eagle’s trying to trade up to the 12th pick. If that happens I bet they’ll take Earl Thomas.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

GEEZ

Days have gone by quicker than the past two hours.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

no kidding

My three favorite things in the world in no particular order: My wife, sex with my wife, and The Cincinnati Bengals

by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thread

Hey guys, we’re going to have a new open thread opening up at 6:30. This will be our “official” open thread.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Dez

Are the Broncos the only team to worry about RE: Dez?

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Broncos will go down the Brandon Marshall route again, I think they are looking defense or offensive line, Seattle (even though they are out for Dez supposedly) and Pittsburgh are the two scariest teams to go after Dez

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by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 22, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

Unless they trade Big Ben. :)

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

Adam_Schefter: The more I hear, the more I believe that Florida QB Tim Tebow is going to be a first-round pick tonight #nfldraft

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats wussup!

Hopefully this is an indication that Dez keep’s falling..

by JamesShively on Apr 22, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holmgren declined to delve into specifics as far as his offer to the Rams, but indicated he would be willing to part with most — but likely not all — of the Browns’ 10 picks and perhaps a pick or picks next year for the consensus No. 1 quarterback in this year’s draft. Holmgren, however, is not optimistic that the Rams will pull the trigger on a trade. “They shouldn’t do it,” he said. “They need a quarterback more than anyone in the world.”

by JamesShively on Apr 22, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

God. This is about as big a smoke screen as one could get

No way that Holmgren would part most or all of the Browns picks. They have way too many needs. You can be successful in this league with a management quarterback.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Todd vs. Mel

Stoooooooooooopid.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahaha

It’s getting heated.

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

Whenever it gets to the point that they have to preface everything with “I respect you,” then you know it’s either going to be really good, or really bad. Either way, it’ll be nothing about the draft. Lol.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all of this draft hype

Quan Cosby is thinking of going to the Reds game.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

So he can watch them blow a lead

and ultimately get stomped by 8 runs? :(

by Jaegner on Apr 22, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't even start with them...

Frickin Harang blaming last night on “bad luck”… WOW

by Jaydolla on Apr 22, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

Next thing he’ll say is that he had bad luck all month.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So whose going to make the biggest (or dumbest) splash in the first round

Its easy to pick the Raiders

I got my money on Tebow around 10….

by Jaydolla on Apr 22, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

RE:

I’ll go with the Browns just because it seems so right to respond with that.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Lacanfora says the Browns are leaning to Kyle Wilson

with the 7th pick

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by Kabash on Apr 22, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN Commerical

Love the New Jersey Devil in the elevator commercial.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

ickey Woods

Did we draft him. If so what round and from wha school?

by quickslant on Apr 22, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

'88, second round...

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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 22, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Simulcast?

Is ESPN, NFL.com, or anyone else gonna be showing the draft live online?…In the process of moving and my sat is turned off and tv packed…

by huntnevachey on Apr 22, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Official 1st round thread is up.

This one is much prettier, though. Apparently the picture I chose didn’t show up. I’ll be fixing that shortly.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2010/4/22/1437350/open-thread-first-round-of-the#comments

by jsl413 on Apr 22, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

NFL.com

its nfl.com/live

I download the free Akamai Netsession for better quality

by Jaydolla on Apr 22, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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