What Are They Saying: People That Think They Know Stuff Grades the Bengals Draft
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ESPN and Scouts Inc devised a formula, as an alternative to using letter grades, that judges a team's selections after the NFL Draft. The forumula is explained as follows:
While we made sure to factor in team needs, we felt value was more important and weighted it more in our formula. Our feeling is that getting value has a bigger impact on a draft class than addressing, and possibly reaching for, team needs. And unlike most draft reviews, we wanted to make sure we accounted for the year-round use of draft picks.
They ranked the Cincinnati Bengals as having the seventh best draft, writing:
The Bengals landed the only player in this draft who was a value at their most-pressing need when they brought in TE Jermaine Gresham. They were then slightly ahead of the curve from a talent standpoint with their next five picks, though DE Carlos Dunlap is the wild card at No. 54 because of maturity issues.
CBS' Pete Prisco grades the Bengals with the arbitrary "B+" write, "I really like the haul they had in this draft. Getting tight end Jermaine Gresham will really help the passing game. So will Shipley. The Bengals' drafting as of late has really paid off."
Fox Sports' John Czarnecki also gives the Bengals a solid B:
Bengals QB Carson Palmer will be excited with Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham who can stretch the field and has been given a clean bill of health after missing all of last season with a knee injury. Most mock drafts had Gresham landing here. The Bengals typically select some risky players, but they claim that Carlos Dunlap’s DUI charge prior to the SEC championship game was an aberration. Dunlap was a great pass rusher at Florida and he has drawn comparisons to Julius Peppers because he’s 6-6 and 277 pounds and very athletic. His nickname was “Baby Freak” because he drew comparisons to former Gator Jevon Kearse. Dunlap had 26 tackles for losses and 19 1/2 sacks in his three-year career. Texas WR Jordan Shipley was very productive in college with at least six games with 10 or more catches. He’s a physical, deep-threat receiver. Wake Forest CB Brandon Ghee has been compared favorably to current Bengals starter Johnathan Joseph. Ghee started 33 games, but came up with only one interception. The steal of their draft could be WR Dezmon Briscoe of Kansas who ran poorly at the Combine and has some off-the-field issues but once was considered just a step behind Dez Bryant in the Big 12 Conference.
Mel Kiper liked the Bengals draft... we think. Here's what he wrote about them.
Everywhere you look on the Cincy draft board, you see players you assumed could go much higher. But that also means they took risks on guys. At No. 21, the Bengals got the draft's best tight end in Jermaine Gresham, but he didn't play in 2009. At No. 60, they got a potentially significant talent in Carlos Dunlap, a guy at one time considered a lock for the top 10. Problem is he rarely played like it, off-field issues aside. Poor Brandon Ghee was the last guy in the green room, which means most thought he could be at least a second-round pick. The Bengals nabbed him at No. 96. Roddrick Muckelroy is a decent pick at No. 131, and I also like the Dezmon Briscoe pick late in the sixth round.
So obviously, Mel was impressed enough to give the Bengals a solid "C".
Rob Rang of NFL Draft Scout gave the Bengals a C+:
The Bengals invested a third-round pick last April in tight end Chase Coffman but were disappointed with his inability to make an impact as a rookie. This year's first-round pick, TE Jermaine Gresham, gives the club a big-play threat down the seam that Carson Palmer can exploit when defenses attempt to load up to stop the Bengals' powerful running game. The Bengals were impressed enough with the toughness of former Texas' receiver Quan Cosby, an undrafted free agent, that they drafted a faster version of him in another former Longhorn, Jordan Shipley. Shipley isn't an elite athlete, but could develop quickly into a reliable slot receiver and returner for the Bengals. The Bengals gambled on athleticism with defensive end Carlos Dunlap and cornerback Brandon Ghee, two players with terrific upside, but only mediocre performances in the SEC. Of their third-day picks, Texas linebacker Rod Muckleroy and Kansas wide receiver Dezmon Briscoe fill needs.
Note: It should be pointed out that while they could have been disappointed, Lewis pointed out last week that they weren't expecting Chase to make an impact in the first place. And I doubt they drafted Shipley because they were "impressed" with Cosby.
Clifton Brown gives the Bengals a B+:
QB Carson Palmer needed more weapons, and they were they provided. Jermaine Gresham was the draft's best tight end. Jordan Shipley should be a reliable slot receiver. Defensive end Carlos Dunlap has serious potential as a pass rusher if he becomes more disciplined.
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All I read everywhere is that Dunlap needs discipline...
Over and over…“If Dunlap can be disciplined, he could be elite.” Well is there anyone else in the world you’d rather have on top of that than Mike Zimmer? If we had anyone else running the defense, I might be worried. But Zim’s going to turn this kid into a monster. And as much as it hurt to miss out on our top safety prospects, the pass rush and exploitable secondary go hand in hand. If we couldn’t improve the secondary, the next best thing is to drastically improve the pass rush. Exactly what we did while still getting great value at practically every slot. Homer Gilyard-fandom aside, I can’t think of much I would have done differently in this draft.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
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is the second coming of Jesus Christ… at least that’s what the “experts” will have you believe. If you switched around the Ravens’ and Bengals’ picks, positional needs aside, you’d hear the pundits raving about Gresham as an immediate force and Dunlap as a huge value, and they’d be questioning Cincinnati for dropping out of Round 1 to take an injury-ridden pass-rusher and an overwieght nose tackle. So don’t listen to those clowns. They’re used to Baltimore drafting much better than Cincy (maybe for good reason – the past supports this), but they don’t live int he present. Right now, the Bengals are drafting well, and if no one wants to recognize it, fine. They’ll prove it on the field once again.
by Pardon_My_French on Apr 25, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
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What I liked: The Bengals got the best player in the draft at their only real glaring position of need in taking Oklahoma tight end Jermaine Gresham at No. 21. Can’t argue with that.
What I didn’t: Not much. The Bengals also found a way to get a pass-rushing candidate (Carlos Dunlap), slot receiver (Jordan Shipley), and cornerback (Brandon Ghee) with talent. Solid draft for this franchise.
Moving forward: If adding weapons like Antonio Bryant and Gresham can help Carson Palmer regain his Pro Bowl form, the Bengals could be in the mix for a second consecutive playoff berth, which hasn’t happened in the Queen City in years.
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good breakdowns
Bengals got a ton of value and 5 players that are good enough to start
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
We could have done much worse I suppose
We could have freaked out and signed Tebow in the first round. WTF Denver? LMAO!!
Draft grades are funny
Here are the letter grades for the division from site I don’t have to pay to read.
Rob Rang CBS Sports/NFLDraftScout.com – CLE B+, BAL B- , CIN C+, PIT C+
Pete Prisco CBS Sports – BAL A, CIN B+, PIT B-, CLE C
John Czarnecki – FOX Sports – BAL B+, CLE B+, PIT B+, CIN B
Clifford Brown – Sporting News – BAL A-, CIN B+, CLE B, PIT B
MeL Kiper ESPN BAL A, PIT B, CIN C, CLE C
Who Cares What Mel Kiper Thinks
Thank God I have the NFL Network so I didn’t have to listen to Mel Kiper and Steve Young all evening. Don’t those two ever shut up? I think even Tom Jackson was getting pis*ed off with Young’s motormouth.
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I also thought their coverage was better, they don’t focus on the big city teams.
I think the Ravens had a great draft but that is dependant on how you look at it.
Yes they got some great players, especially considering that the didn’t have a 1st. You could say Boldin is there #1 pick. But other than Boldin did they really upgrade and of their starting positions above what they normally have. TE maybe but Heap has always been good, until he just got over used abd beat up last year. The drafted a LB and NT, both excellent picks, but they already have excellent players there. Their biggest weakness is a CB and I don’t see a lot of improvement there. They will be very tough – better than last year but we drafted not only talented players but players who will all upgrade their positions right now. Except for Safety where after the top 3 left were such a fall off in talent that they aren’t convincing upgrades over what we have.
Is Marvin can get 3 things we will be very strong:
1. A veteran backup QB who can come in and not lose the game for us. Older is OK as he probably won’t even play or if he does only for a game or two. Let’s face it if Carson goes down so does any SB aspirations anyeay.
2. A good veteran Safety who can come and play right away – especially if he is good in coverage as well as the run.
3. A dependable kicker. This will be the hardest to find. I would rather have – gulp – Graham than what we have now.
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Give Nugent a chance
He was injured at the end with the Jets. Some kickers need a change of scenery before it all comes together as well. Think Neil Rackers! He couldn’t hit extra points for us and went to Arizona and consistently hit 50+ yarders. I say we give Nugent a chance. If Rayner beats him out then GREAT. That means he’s better. Nugent has a HUGE leg though. He could potentially provide us with something we haven’t had before. A Kicker who we can count on to hit clutch FG over 40+yards consistently. With a team built on Defense and the Running game this would be HUGE.

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