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Open Thread Question of the Day: Cincinnati is a Reds town or a Bengals town?

This has always been one of those senseless debates. With opening day behind us and the Reds playing their second game of the season Wednesday night, I wanted to create a topic of conversation for the day. Even as a Bengals fan, it's hard to suggest anything other than the Reds dominance on the city for a long time. Maybe not consecutively. The Bengals took a chunk of the town's pride in 2005, which in a way reestablished the debate. And the Reds for as much as we love them, struggle as much as the Bengals some seasons and you wonder why we cheer for either team. We do though. That's what do.

As an honest fan of all sports in Cincinnati, would you say that Cincinnati is a baseball town or a football town?

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Bengals town, and I say this as a diehard fan.

The reds don’t draw as much attention as the Bengals, and that can be seen when you go to the Reds stadium.

Have you ever been to a Reds opening day game? I would say 1/3 of the people leave before the 6th inning regardless of score.

The reds have problems drawing people into the stadium, and probably average 23k over a year when the stadium holds 47k.

There are no draft parties for the Reds, there really is never any anticipation for free agency with the Reds and the jersey sales favor the Bengals as well.

uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Apr 7, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

REds

The Bengals play 8 games in a season, compared to 81 games a season. Actually every city that has an NFL team, their jerseys will sell more than any MLB team other than maybe the Yankees.

by James Schmid the great on Apr 7, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

bengals town for sure.

ohio is a football state. yes, we love our reds, but football is the topic of conversation year round and it has a collection of the most die-hard fans i’ll ever meet. in my opinion it’s no question—football trumps baseball in this entire state let alone just cincinnati.

to comment on “Mr. NC-17”s post, there are no draft parties for baseball, period. the draft is in the middle of the week during business hours and until recently wasn’t even televised. the NFL draft will always be infinitely more appealing to viewers than the baseball draft but that doesn’t mean much in this conversation. other than that, i agree with everything.

Running out to frontyard laughing! -Fat Vegas Alan

by GrooveLeg on Apr 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

????

I don’t know the answer to this question, but I would bet if the reds played 8 home games per season, they would sell out just as many…..

by Bengalsnbucks on Apr 7, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll bite

Reds town.

Admittedly, I’m more of a Bengals fan, but c’mon, the Reds were the very first professional baseball team. Yes, perhaps sometimes the Reds have trouble filling seats, but they have like, what, 90 more home games to worry about? And I think to this day people still remember The Big Red Machine more than they do a specific Bengals team/group (I could be totally wrong, I was born long after BRM was dismantled, and was too young to remember either Bengal Super Bowls)

by Rocket_Man_G on Apr 7, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to agree

But I believe it’s switching over with the younger generations. Why do we have to choose? I’m a Reds and Bengals fan :)

CB85......Collaros for Heisman

by TennBengalfan on Apr 7, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said “more” of a Bengals fan :) I love the feel of a cool summer evening down on the river front, eatin’ stadium food, watching the Reds play. What a great feeling!

But to back up your point, my dad always has been the biggest Reds fan I know, since he was a little kid growing up in Norwood. He even went to a game at Crosley field, awesome.

by Rocket_Man_G on Apr 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am also a Reds fan and always will be,

I do remember the BRM and the 90’ WS win. Wire to Wire. I carried a broom through the streets of downtown that night. I remember the two SB appearances too. It was a great feeling to have. Where in the hell has it gone. I mean all of the winning and everything associated with it. Which reminds me to write a post about the winning traditions of Cincy sports and how it feels.
My grandfather was the head grounds keeper at Crosley field and at the riverfront stadium till 74’. That is where my true feelings on both teams came from. I am depressed about no winning since 1990. Except one year 1999 when the Reds lost a play-in game. We still lost… along with the Bengals loss’ in the first games of the playoffs.
This sucks to be in Cincy right now. I hope things change soon. Who knows, this might be the year…

by WHYUS!! on Apr 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well sellouts are a bad indicator.

You can’t compare selling out 8 games vs 82. Otherwise I would say well the Reds draw 1.5 million fans per year and the Bengals only draw 500,000. The stadiums are also different sizes so, so there are too many things that go into attendance. Other teams fans will buy up open seats in Paul Brown because they don’t get a chance to see their team but once every 3 years or so, sometimes longer. If you’re a Mets fan then you get a chance to see them every year so you may not go the park.

I honestly think the majority of Cincinnati fans in general are bandwagon jumpers with their money up for grabs. The cash goes to whatever team is winning. You couldn’t get people to fill UC’s stadium 5 years ago with $5 tickets, now they are good and suddenly the city is behind them. It’s the same for UC basketball, now you watch them on TV and there are open seats in the gym. When Kenyon Martin, and Nick VanExel was there the whole town loved them some bearcat basketball. When the Reds challenge, not lately then the park is full. The year they played the play in game against the Mets. I went to Riverfront Stadium on a Wednsday to watch them play the Cards. The pace was packed…. because they were winning. Cincy has seen so many bad teams the money, and “loyalty” goes to whoever wins.

It’s not a popular view but that’s how I see it. Oh and I’ve been a Bengal fan and a Reds fan my entire life.

by JoseOle on Apr 7, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

it depends

-uc football, yeah, i agree there. but you can say it’s just not a football school. that doesn’t mean people won’t get caught up in the hype, it’s just the way it is.
-uc basketball – i know a lot of people were pissed about huggins being fired. i personally was. the president of the university didn’t consult with the fans at all. she made the decision on her own and i refused to support that decision.
-reds games – there’s 82 home games a year. i lived in philly the past few years and their stadium wasn’t full all the time. and they won/went back to the world series. it’s just hard to get people excited when they can see a team every 4 days.
-bengals games just sell out because there are so few of them. that’s the nature of football in cities/states that are all about football.

i agree more people turn out to teams that are winning, but that’s true anywhere. there’s not a fan base in the world that doesn’t have bandwagon jumpers.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Apr 7, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reds

If the Bengals ever field the equivalent of the Big Red Machine, then we’ll talk. For my money, championships trump trendiness.

by IFChris on Apr 7, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Depends on your age

I’m 30 and have seen sadly more good Bengals years than Reds years, yes, the Reds had the championship 20 years ago and the Bengals have none, but all in all, I think it is a generational thing and a winning thing, I’d love to share it with championship for both teams, but i think the way to answer this would be “who would you rather win a championship in 2010, the Reds or the Bengals”? Honestly, would choose the Bengals. I love baseball, but Who Dey!

by whodeydoc on Apr 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

well im from charleston sc and im a die hard bengals and reds fan….how ya loooove that

by rawdawg78 on Apr 7, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Reds

The Reds lend more legitimacy to Cincinnati’s contributions to sports history.

by Jaegner on Apr 7, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on! This is obvious.

Cincinnati is a baseball town. Always has been. Now, that could change in the future if the Bengals ever amount to anything. The Bengals need to win at least two super bowls within a relatively short amount of time to overtake the Reds city. The Reds have too much history and when they start winning again you will see just how much of a baseball town Cincinnati really is.

by Brian Self on Apr 7, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

This is obiously a baseball town historically..

No one can argue the fact that the Reds were the first professional baseball team even before the turn of the century… Taft was the first president to throw the “first pitch”… Our ancestor’s had GREAT pride in baseball in the city of Cincinnati…With that said the football boom across the enitire country the last 60 year’s has brought great pride to our fathers and grandfather’s about the having professional football in the city.. which has trickled down to us.. The big red machine gave the city a lot of pride right around the time the Bengals were getting off there feet and also gave us the 1990 WS… For the younger generation’s like my self the Bengals are more exciting because of the sport they play… However for our father’s and grandfather’s the Reds were more exciting due to the lack of football and great success the team enjoyed… Until the Bengals are over a 120 years old I have to vote this is a Reds town even though I enjoy the Bengals more.. We can’t forget all the people the walked our street’s before us and there are many more Reds fan’s than Bengal’s fan’s when that is considered..

by JamesShively on Apr 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

This sparked my curiosity

The Red’s actually originate back to 1866 but not being officially a “professional” team until 1869… This is a good read guys check it out…This in my opinion put’s to rest this question..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Red_Stockings

by JamesShively on Apr 7, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that this takes care of it...

We love our Bengals and it’s a Reds town.

by WHYUS!! on Apr 7, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

What really interest me

Is the thought that these guy’s went from your what was your average mens softball league back then in to what is now “The Great American Ballpark”. Those guys had no idea what they were starting and what it would amount to today…

by JamesShively on Apr 7, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

As a football fan first and a baseball fan second

Cincinnati will always be a baseball town. Right now football is garnering more interest because the Bengals and other NFL teams have a much more equal playing field than the Reds compared to other MLB teams. I remember the ‘90 Series win. It made me feel really good about my fanhood. Especially with some of the heart breakers we have endured as Bengal fans. In 1990, I was still in elementary school. Now I’m 27 going on 28, and I’m hoping both of the city’s professional sports franchises can get in the playoffs this year.(Ok so with the Reds that might be too much to ask this season, but I’ll be happy with a winning season). But the history and tradition of the Cincinnati Reds is matched by very few teams in any professional sport, and to me that is why Cincinnati will always be a baseball town.

Slim 15, you will be missed. RIP Chris Henry

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Apr 7, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Neither

both teams have sucked for so long.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Apr 8, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

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