Farewell Performance? Chad Ochocinco, Cedric Benson, Johnathan Joseph All Eye 2011 Free Agency
Once again, it's May, and once again, the NFL doldrums are upon us. Though the Cincinnati Bengals are doing their best to make sure their fans have something to talk about during the league's annual dead zone (see: Jones comma Adam comma "Pacman") the fact is that fans and writers are both just killing time until training camps open up. So I'm going to take a step back and look a little further down the road than the upcoming season. My question: what's the plan?
The Bengals have a number of important players whose future in stripes beyond 2010 is in doubt. On the defensive side, the big name is CB Johnathan Joseph. The conventional wisdom is that the Bengals won't be able to afford both Joseph and CB Leon Hall (whose rookie deal expires after the 2011 season), but after those two players, there's no other starting corner on the roster. And before someone chimes in, Pacman hasn't done bupkis at corner since 2006. If that changes this year, I'll be happy to feast on roast crow, but I'm not counting on it, and the Bengals shouldn't, either.
On the other side of the ball, there's RB Cedric Benson, who in his short time in Cincinnati has become second only to QB Carson Palmer in importance to the offense. While the team has some talented situational backs behind him on the roster, including Bernard Scott and Brian Leonard, there's no "bell-cow" in sight. With relatively little tread on his tires for a 28-year-old (in 2011) back, Benson seems a good candidate to re-sign, but for the same reason he may also draw competing offers in free agency. Certainly, if he puts up another 1,000+ yard season this year, he'll garner more interest next March than he did in 2009.
And, of course, there's WR Chad Ochocinco. Chad will be a free agent in 2011 unless the Bengals exercise a $6 million option which would extend his deal for one more year. That has disaster written all over it. Players chafe at playing under one-year franchise deals. Anyone want to take a guess at how Chad will react to playing under a one-yer deal that's roughly 60% of the franchise money for wide receivers?
Yeah. Exactly. 2008 redux. And again, there's no clear successor on the roster. Would-be replacement WR Jerome Simpson appears to be a flop, and free agent WR Antonio Bryant, who in theory could take over as the No. 1 wideout, has yet to take a snap as a Bengal.
In short, the Bengals are looking at the No. 1 wide receiver, No. 1 running back and (arguably) No. 1 cornerback all being free agents in 2011, with no real alternatives in sight. That suggests that the plan is, pay the men, but handing out three sizable new deals isn't the Bengals' style. Look at 2006: once Levi Jones and Willie Anderson signed, the till was declared empty for Eric Steinbach. So figure at least one of the "big three" moves on.
Who? If I had to bet, I'd say J-Jo. I can actually see the Bengals giving Chad a new deal, something like the front-loaded pile Laveranues Coles got last year. It will be a three- or four-year contract giving Chad about $10 million in the first year -- but only amounting to about $4 million more than they would have had to pay him anyhow. Benson, too, I think they get back. Top dollar for RBs isn't anywhere near what it is for WRs and CBs, so he's the easy signing.
That leaves Cincinnati with Joseph, the prospect of Hall hitting he market the following year, and what looks to be a reasonably good draft for defensive backs coming up next April. Obvously, a lot of things could change between now and March 2011, and equally obviously, the NFL and the players have to reach a new labor deal, which will probably include some version of the franchise tag. In that case, it's easy to construct a scenario in which the Bengals sign Benson, exercise their option on Chad and tag Joseph, but again, that doesn't seem to me to make for a couple of happy, highly paid stars. More importantly, it's not a plan; it's just kicking the can down the road.
Oh, you want my plan? Well, if I'm Mike Brown (and I'm not, though I do drive a crappy car and wear cheap suits), Joseph is the one guy I don't let get away. Moreover, I pay Hall, too. It doesn't do a lot of good to draft and develop talent only to let it go at first opportunity. Over the past few years, the Bengals have built a damned good defense, and I don't want to see that given up without a fight. In the Chad vs. Cedric battle, I give Chad the slightest edge simply because it's proven so difficult for the Bengals to find a No. 1 wideout, either through the draft or free agency, to replace him. On the other hand, they seem to do a good job with running backs, and the run-oriented offensive line ought to be a boon to anyone they bring in. If Bryant shows something this season, I might be persuaded to revise my opinion. But Benson, as much as I like him (I think they ought to have extended him this year) ends up as my odd man out, for now.
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That’s how I see it. This is kind of the same conversation we had previously w acquiring high dollar free agents. We are beginning to show signs that we can draft and develop talent and that is what we need to do to be a great franchise.. Not just short term. however I would find it strange to see Ocho without stripes while he may be the wisest one to let loose. Hey Bengals fans let’s get excited for this season. We have a great team w great players and coaches. Ill take 30-1 this year…WHO DEY co life…untill a lockout then I will be a little bitter.
by quickslant on May 10, 2010 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
buy low sell high
That’s how I see it. This is kind of the same conversation we had previously w acquiring high dollar free agents. We are beginning to show signs that we can draft and develop talent and that is what we need to do to be a great franchise.. Not just short term. however I would find it strange to see Ocho without stripes while he may be the wisest one to let loose. Hey Bengals fans let’s get excited for this season. We have a great team w great players and coaches. Ill take 30-1 this year…WHO DEY fo life…untill a lockout then I will be a little bitter.
by quickslant on May 10, 2010 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
In the meantime....
We could ahem sign OfftheMarcus Russell and teach him how to play NT for pennies on the dollar and then sell him back to Skeletor for more $$$. Mua-ha-ha-ha!
JJ and Chad
I would have to tjink we keep these guys. Chad is still good for two to three years till we can get someone to replace him and with a good year I think he would want to come back. I like JJ more then hall. I like his speed better then hall. But i do think hall is better playing the ball. Sign both corners to long term deals because it is a passing league now. Running backs are a dime a dozen in drfts and can geta good one in the draft if need be. Keep the corners and the WR and drop the back.
Chad want's a larger media market..
I don’t think he’d have a problem leaving Cincinnati after a good year..
by JamesShively on May 10, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, and I think it's ok, too
Look at some of these “used up” WRs and RBs. Once the kings of the league, like Westbrook, and TO and LT and LJ.
LT was traded and got a good value for the Chargers. But if the Bengals are proactive and if Chad definitely wants out, then that’s fine. Get top dollar for a older, but still productive WR.
by UpStateMike on May 11, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Want to add
If you sign JJO that gives you atleast another year with the two together. Plus it ensures you do not lose both of them. If JJO goes then you are in a position that you HAVE to sign Hall, IMO. Signing JJO ensures that you have atleast one of them locked up long term and it keeps them together for another year. Depending on what happens during the new collective bargaining agreement then they could possibly Franchise Hall and gain atleast another year of the duo together. I would only do this if a window on a Super Bowl run was closing. I would assume sign them both but it probably won’t happen. IMO JJO and Hall would be my number 1 and 2 concerns. I would sign them even before an aging Ocho and Benson. Just my opinion, though.
This is exactly the reason
why so many of us were CRYING FOR BRANDON MARSHALL. He would have fit perfecty in the Carson Palmer career timeline and made the eventual loss / retirement of Chad Ochocinco less of a problem. That would have also bought a LOT of time to groom other recievers down the line.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
marshall might have solved an issue to come in 2011
provided marshall wasn’t a headcase once he came to town. we’ll never know which wr he would have been for us.
hope the bengals keep chad, probably won’t happen, its not the way brown works. chad playing under a 1 year deal will be another justin smith disaster year. maybe the bengals can exercise the option then trade chad for a 4th/5th round pick in 2011.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
P.S
Dont let J.J go. having 2 stellar CB’s is a luxury that this team’s defense is built on right now and the point made about developing young talent only to let it go at first opportunity is a good one
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Defense wins championships
Ergo, JJ HAS to stay. Chad will be old as shit then. Ced Ben could still be really good.
Keep 2 = 1) JJ, 2) Ced Ben
Done.
come on man
dont throw chad under the bus like that,.. Chad keeps himself in GREAT shape, he could play at a high level for another 3-4 years IMO
he wants to keep a 30+ year old rb
how often does cincy do that?
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Benson
Benson will command more than the Bengals will pay.
He’ll have taken a lot of hits and last year we had 3 running backs with over 100 yards. Mike B will think they could put anyone behind an unbalanced line and get the yards.
So look for a bargain buy instead.
Let Benson go
A New contract for Benson takes him into his thirties, and RBs have the shortest shelf life of any position. Resign Chad, Leon and Joseph and let Benson go, then draft a RB in the 1st and 4th rounds and let one earn the starting spot. O-line is as big in getting 1,000 yards anyway.
agree that benson
is no big deal. as long as cincy has jim anderson, cincy always develops running back talent. we’ll be ok at rb. and benson will be getting old.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
MY guess is
Benson would be happy to run out his career here for the most part.
Bengals gave him a golden opportunity and although he himself has stated this is a business, I think he’s happy here and wants to suceed.
by UpStateMike on May 11, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Chad not at risk of leaving
His club option of $6mil is an easy decision – but I doubt they just invoke their option rights. Instead, I’d look for them to extend him with a big number deal that also protects the team in case his production starts to rapidly drops off as he gets older.
J-Jo is a tough one. He really hasn’t played like a Top 10 corner to deserve such a huge contract, but his production has improved every year. So if that trend continues, he certainly will be in line for a big-money contract. Hard to say if the Bengals are ready to pull that trigger, especially since you could argue Hall is as good or better than J-Jo.
Benson is still young enough for another contract – especially since he didn’t see that much playing time before coming to Cincinnati. His running style will hurt his longevity, but as long as the team gets production out of him (and he gets paid), both win.
Everybody else is a typical free agent – good enough to re-sign but not so good that we can’t find a similar guy on the market.
j-jo vs Nate Clements deal
49ers paid 30 million so far to Nate Clements for 7 ints 160 tackles over 3 seasons. the Nate Clements deal could be what forces cincy to step aside when it comes time to talk to j-jo about another contract.
49ers paid 80 million for an 8 year deal with 22 million guaranteed to a guy now producing 2.3 ints a season, 53 tackles a season, and 9 passes defended per season. Granted his numbers might go up with a few productive complete seasons. Although he’s 30 now and got another 5 years left at 10 million per season.
the bengals could be scared of making that sort of commitment to 1 corner and getting similar results for their money.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Math
Benson will be 30 soon, what other team keeps 30+ year old RB’s? None. He had a tone of carries this year and is starting to look to me like Rudi Johnson when he started to break down. Let Benson play out this year and then bye bye. I wouldn’t give Chad more than a 1 year deal and point to T.O. while doing it. If he thinks he is going to get Fitzgerald money I point to the fact that Fitz is in his mid 20’s after 2011 Chad will be in his mid 30’s, not good. I put all the cash into 2 $7 million per year CB’s. I also hit the signing/roster bonus right now on JJ so it won’t affect the cap later. I would give them both cash now, and then have a wide open cap coming out of the strike. The days of 30+’s getting multiple years and crazy money are over, keep the young guys.
Benson
Man < I dont know which team you were watching, but I was at that playoff game and the only one that showed up was BENSON. When did Benson break down? I know he was hurt for 3 games, but break down? Nope didnt see it.
by James Schmid the great on May 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 Agreed
I think we may have to watch for that to happen if he signs another contract. Not during this one though. He will be fine this year. Sure every RB gets injured but I see no sign that he is looking like Rudi did at the end of his career.
They will
Franchise tag J-Joe or Benson and then re-sign the other to a long term deal.Chad will walk. There is a good possibility that they let Benson walk because you can find serviceable backs all over the draft, but then again other teams may take the same viewpoint and won’t want to pay Benson what Cincinnati would. J-Joe stays one more year and Benson stays for 2 or 3 more while Chad walks.
by Anthony Cosenza on May 11, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Right now....
Its not a guarantee there will be a Franchise Tag with the new collective bargain. Most assume there will but its definitely not certain.
Chad has resigned a few times
I don’t assume that Chad will walk, nor demand too much money. I think a lot depends on how we do this year. We won’t franchise Ced, that would pay him more in one year than he signed for for 2 years.
J-Joe could be Franchised, but I could see him extending for all our dislike of MB, he has a history of extending players who perform and are key (ie Big Willie,DIllon, Chad, Rudi, Carson, Levi, Jeremi Johnson, Geathers). Look back at those contracts at the time and you will find that the garuanteed money is in line with contracts of the day; however, MB never adds unrealistic extra years and ego money. He gives contracts he expects to pay, he just won’t overpay.
I wouldn't let Chad walk.....
if I were the Bengals.
I’d try to work out a 3 year extension with him, and I’d tell him if he doesn’t agree to an extension, that we’re going to excercise his $6M option. At that point, he can play for one more year, or we’ll try to trade him.

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