JaMarcus Russell to Cincinnati?
OCNN (Ochocinco News Network) broke what could be the biggest news of the Bengals off season today via twitter.
Jamarcus Russel, you on twitter, if not its cool ill see you in #minicamp , ooopsss, did I just leak that info #ocnn
That's right. Chad is saying that Russell, who was released recently from the Raiders, is going to be Carson Palmer's backup this season.
This story isn't just based off the ramblings of an eccentric wide receiver/dancer/news anchor. It actually has some legs.
According to NFL.com, NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora reported that the Bengals have been in contact with the only quarterback who makes Ryan Leaf feel better about himself according to league sorces.
Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com wrote of the possibility of Russell making his way to Cincinnati:
In response, ESPN's Adam Schefter claims that the Bengals and others have called Russell, but that "there are no plans for him to be at any minicamps now."
If the Bengals sign Russell, it fits with their M.O. of finding bargains. Though the Bengals have a franchise quarterback in Carson Palmer, some think that an elbow injury that plagued him in 2008 was still bothering him in 2009.
Florio does pose an interesting question. Would the Bengals motivation for talking to the former first round pick and currently jobless (847 pound) quarterback be Palmer's elbow? It sidelined Palmer for all but four games in 2008 and he didn't have it surgically repaired. Even though Palmer, and everybody else who has ever looked at his elbow, say it's all better, the rumors of bringing a former first round pick to back up Palmer could say otherwise to some people.
The current quarterbacks on the roster other than Palmer are J.T. O'Sullivan and Carson's younger brother Jordan Palmer. Needless to say, it's going to be an interesting couple days.
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Completely disagree
Bigger, better arm, has starting experience. It’s just adding depth. JaMarcus never had the talent in Oakland that’s currently on this roster. Let’s be honest, if Carson goes down, they’re screwed anyway—JaMarcus would just get them more wins than if JTO Speedwagon or Jordan “I’m the other” Palmer were in there.
by Anthony Cosenza on May 11, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Carson is shaking in his cleats
The pressure of having a talent like Russell behind him must be a frightning thought
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
by Derftron on May 11, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How can you say J.Russell has talent?
The man has let himself balloon to over 290 lbs as an NFL QB.. That weight is unacceptable for RB’s and LB’s in this league let alone a QB… I’d rather have J.T. just because I think he’s at least dedicated to being in the NFL..
by JamesShively on May 11, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I been over this in other posts but I think what people mean is...
That he has physical talent. Some people would call it measurables. It hasn’t translated to “on the field talent” however. In my opinion its not going to, unless he makes some serious changes and some serious commitment to being a Pro Football player. I would assume look at other QB’s the Russell. Sure he does have “physical talent” but with his work ethic I would assume keep Palmer and O’Sullivan. They work to improve themselves and help improve the receivers. Russell is already made enough money he shouldn’t ever have to worry about money in his lifetime. That concerns me that he will EVER truly dedicate himself to doing the type of things needed to improve into even a solid backup Quarterback. I think a player like this is more damaging to a locker room then someone like Adam Jones. If players see a player like Jordan Palmer cut who is always working hard and preparing himself and helping prepare others for a player who sleeps in meetings, is always the last one in the building and the first one to leave, then this can cause issue’s in the lockeroom. He may be more dedicated then what is being reported, though.
If I was going to sign him I would basically do the same thing they done with Adam Jones. Make him work himself into shape and prove he is committed BEFORE signing him. Then I would make it clear to him that he only makes the team if we see a true commitment and that he will not be the last in and first out. He will work harder than anyone else. First time he doesn’t I would let him know he is cut. PERIOD. All that being said, I personally would look elsewhere to find QB depth.
I would like to refer to
the Ken Griffey Jr. situation in Seattle. Being lazy and sleeping during games. Other players had enough of it and went behind his back and told the media. Caused turmoil in the locker room. Being lazy is the worst disease in the locker room….
I agree
Thats what most of my posts say. I guess the last paragragh is simply saying that if they did sign him I would, as I always do, root for him and hope for the best. That being said I would much rather look at other area’s to address the QB depth or for that matter stay put.
urm jto was a starter in san fran
not saying it makes either of them good, just that jto and russell both have starter experience.
would sooner have the guy committed to being game ready on sunday as the backup. jto is a qb weight. russell at 300 pounds, just don’t care about the game and he’s not game ready. man has to be winded just walking to the huddle.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Agreed with going with the player that is going to work hard
This impacts not only the player working hard but the entire locker room. It definitely helps get the receivers prepared for the games. Carson can’t work with every receiver for the amount of time all the receivers probably won’t to work. So I take the guy willing to work hard and help get himself and the rest of the team prepared. I would look at QB depth, just not at Russell, personally.
If you think Russell will get you more wins
you’re on drugs. The Raiders released him for a reason. He’s unmotivated and apathetic. He never worked on his accuracy and finesse. Always overthrew or underthrew.
Raider Nation won’t miss him. You want McFadden too?
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
McFadden’s a different story…
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on May 11, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome. Just what we needed: a Fat Akili Smith
by BeerRun on May 11, 2010 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
They contacted Vick last year. No reason not to think they wouldn’t at least kick the tires. They really need to bring in another vet to compete with Just Turnovers. Why not JP Losman ? I bet he would sign for MB’s price, the league minimum. I gotta think he would be an upgrade to JT.
You might be right...
but the fact is Losman has started more games than JT and Jordan have played in. Starting experience is better than coming in at the end of a game. How many street FA QBs with starting experience that aren’t over the hill (JP is 29) are out there ? Again, what would be the downside of bringing him in ???
Whatever...
I guess it’s alright, if they sign him for cheap. I love the theme of creating competition in camp. I think they should challenge Carson a little more. I just don’t know if JaMarcus is the guy. Personally, I’d rather have Gradkowski, he beat us when he was in Tampa Bay a couple years back. I know Gradkowski isn’t an option, just a thought. I know Russell has an arm, but I don’t know about this one.
Gradkowski beat you last year too....
you can’t have him though. I’m pulling for him over Campbell.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
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by KentuckianaBrowncoat on May 11, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
dont take it too far MB
I’ve been in favor w the new aquisitions but this would be reaching. Trust me there will be better veterans available in due time.
by quickslant on May 11, 2010 9:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Heavy weight Russell to Cincy?
Now why on Earth woudl brass bring Russell to Cincinnati? I don’t see it. They must have known everything about Russell, since joining the Raiders, including his release and why he was released. SO, this being the case, why would they even think about Russell being in a Bengal uniform? 85, youz full of it.
Making a difference.
:)
That’s all I will say.
Take it for what it is worth.
uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?
nah.
Rather see if Mark Bulger has anything left as a backup.
Bulger, Orton, Garcia, etc...
There are multiple QB’s out there that could help us add depth. I would rather see any of the guys I mentioned above, but I really would rather pass on Russell. Oh and I’m sure I’m leaving out a bunch of other guys I can’t think of right at the moment.
But what if
we need someone to throw a pass sixty yards from their knees? ; )
by IgnatiusJReilly on May 11, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
Okay move
Maybe Paul Alexander can convert JaMarkus to guard.
Bad, but is he improving?
My impression is that JaMarcus did better the end of last year. Maybe he could be one of the first fullbacks that can also pass? :)
He did better at the end of last yaer
because he sat on the bench.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Who said he could pass?
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on May 11, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
Bengals on bargain shopping. Probably can have Russell for $400,000 a year. What is the veteran’s minimum these days? He is not necessarily a poor man with what Oakland had paid him before he got dumped. A good bargain.
Fools Gold. That’s all he is. He might shine like Gold, but he aint Gold.
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on May 11, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really a bargain
If we’re lucky, we pay whatever we pay him to sit on the bench, hopefully without breaking it. If Carson gets injured, we’re completely screwed with Russell on the field: ask the Raiders, who only started winning when they benched him. The fact we got him for peanuts wouldn’t be any consolation in that scenario. I’d much rather pay a premium for Bulger… wait a minute, this is Mike Brown’s team I’m talking about. Forget that last sentence.
I just burst out laughing
I’ve never done that before aside from cracked.com. Good job Mr Garrison.
by New Red Machine on May 12, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
SERIOUSLY
I’m not a Jamarcus fan… but he came to training camp in the best shape of his life. the 300lb thing was a rumor. please stop spreading it. there are plenty of reasons not to like him, but don’t use his weight.
RIP Slim.
Ok, 290lbs
That is still huge for a QB and 290lbs wasn’t a rumor. That is what he weighed last year at camp. Though he did lose some throughout the season. I think it was just easier for people to round the number up….
Take it easy fella. 10lbs is not that big of a deal, when you are talking that kind of weight.
Here again I am sticking my head in the lion's mouth but.....
Russel failed in Oakland. No doubt. But he has only played one place and in a very bad environment. Their coaching staff is probably the worst in the league. Hell fist fights and discord really don’t inspire greatness. No, I am not letting Russel off the hook but the man is physically gifted and was smart enough to play for a pretty good school. Yea, I get all of the disdain but he wasn’t exactly put in the best situation. If he didn’t have the tangibles that can’t be coached I would not even try but this kid just might be salvageable.
It wouldn’t take much to improve over what we have. JTO and Carson Jr. are simply not good. Fitzpatrick was better and he sucked. I don’t see how Russel could do worse than what we have, he will probably play cheaper than JTO and with a strong group of guys and better coaches in a different environment he just might start realizing his potential. Here again, nothing to lose and everything to gain.
JTO and “the other white meat” Jordan just might elevate their play thinking they might lose their job carrying a clipboard for seven figures. It’s all good. Whats the down side? Our rep? Hell I say in for a penny in for a pound.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Well stated John
I was thinking the very same thing. He’s a young QB that was in a terrible situation and never got a good chance of learning how to be an NFL QB. Add in his front like was about as resiliant as wet paper grocery bags and how can you not get crushed, both physcially and mentally.
So, we grab the kid. We check out his condition. Get him some hot soup and some fresh gear. Have Carson Palmer and the coaches work with him and get him into shape. Who knows? Maybe that’s what it would take and we at least have a backup QB worth a shit.
boo. I’m sorry, but if JR had shown even a glimmer of talent over in Oakland I would be all over this, but the fact is he sucked. He was so bad that when they brought in a journeyman QB to play for the Raiders, they looked like an average team again. I’m all for bringing in talent on the cheap, but Russel was flat out the worst, most embarrassing QB in the league last year and if Carson went down, he’s the last player that I would want to take the reins of the Bengals.
And there is a whole host of QBs out there who could out perform Russell in a an emergency situation. Bulger/Garcia/Orton (if he comes available)/ Lossman / etc.
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on May 12, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want Russell from what I know however
If we sign him I will have to trust the Coaches. Like I said going off what WE know is a lot different then what the coaches know. Russell does have A TON of talent. Anyone who says he don’t is wrong! He may not have shown it on the field but he definitely has physical talent.
If the coaches sign him then we must trust that they have made it clear that sleeping in meetings, being the last player in and first one out, and the overall “lazy” perception will not be tolerated. Not even for 1 day. Going off of what WE know then I say we should look elsewhere but, like I said if they do sign him I am going to trust that they saw something that told him he finally “gets it” with what type of commitment it is going to take to be successful.
I guess my point is that you can't throw away that kind of physical talent just because...
he didn’t make it in just one situation – and a bad one at that. I really don’t see the risk. I don’t understand how so many here seem to hate giving a guy a second chance. He is only a backup after all and what we have is simply sub par.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
He’d only be a backup, but he’d be a backup to the most important position on the team. In the event that Palmer got hurt you can’t tell me that Russell is the guy that you want to come and step in.
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on May 12, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree Carsonorbust, but what we have now in JTO is abysimal as well
At least with Russel there is a chance he can be better than that. JTO has probably peaked. I am not sure Russel has.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I agree with that
I would just rather them look at other options that would seem to upgrade the position more. That being said I am one that has routinely been onboard with giving second chances. I think they just have to be careful here. A guy who plays hard and got into a little trouble at age 24 is one thing. A guy who is just flat out lazy is another. Who knows though, you may be right. If I had to play for the Raiders I would give up almost all hope too. I guess bringing him in to give him a tryout wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Like I said above I would make it clear what is expected of him and if that expectation isn’t met then we would cut him QUICKLY. I guess there isn’t any harm in that. I would just rather them look elsewhere and truly upgradet the position.
Kitna for a 7th rounder?
Somebody brought this up when we were talking about this last week. Why not? Carson loves the guy, so do the fans and coaches. Let him finish his career here and transition into a coaching role. He would just be a good all around guy to have in the organization. Plus I think that he could still get it done as well if not better than JTO.
I would love them to bring in Kitna
I would even give up more than a 7th, personally. I don’t see it though.
I ahve posted many time that Kitna would be a great pick up.
If we did that I would also say no to Russel. The worst thing we could do in the QB area is stand pat.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Kitna isn't leaving Dallas
They know he is a great back-up, and have no intention of letting him go.
I agree
Like I said if it were possible I would definitely make that move. I wonder if they have even made the call though? I would love to have Kitna for a couple years and then transition him into an assistant. I think he would definitely be good at that. Anyway I’m with you I really don’t think that will happen.

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