Bengals Banter: Say Hello To Your First Place Cincinnati Reds
by Josh Kirkendall on May 17, 2010 9:47 AM EDT
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Happy, happy weekend, indeed. Let me just say, first place is sweet. No one can beat us. Not the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Cleveland Browns, the St. Louis Cardinals, the Milwaukee Brewers, the Chicago Cubs, no one. After winning two of three against St. Louis over the weekend, the Cincinnati Reds take first place. How sweet that is. We've dealt with so many seasons in which the Reds and Bengals were disasters at the same time. In the past six months, the Bengals won their division and now the Reds took it to the Cardinals to take first place away. Who knows if it'll last. But right now, it feels damn good.
+ Antonio Bryant is getting comfortable with the Bengals offense and, more importantly, Carson Palmer.
"With him it's about precision and timing, and that will help me pick my game up. That's something I've lacked for the most part everywhere I've been," Bryant said. "He's almost got it down to a science. I know what to expect because it's been consistent so far."
+ Chick Ludwig vehemently defends Bengals offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski, saying that Bengals fans should get off his back. My response: No.
+ After some rumor that the Browns are looking at signing Terrell Owens, the Browns have ruled Owens out.
+ Today would have been Chris Henry's 27th birthday.
+ A month after his debut, Jerry Rice could be retiring from his one-month long professional golf career.
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Who Dey think gonna beat dem reds!?!?
I look to the Reds to keep me interested until after the allstar game b/c then the Bengals can start to pick me up a little, hopefully the Reds can keep this up though, I’d love to see a Cincinnati sweep this year for the World Series and the Super Bowl
bobby b has earned every negative word
ever written about him times 1000. He’s useless. Utterly. Completely.
Useless.
Here’s a somewhat depressing thought for your Monday morning: If we have a top five offense this year, saddle up for another decade of this clown as our OC.
by Bengals NFL Champs on May 17, 2010 10:10 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's the same problem
with cheering for the Reds this year and having Dusty Baker on his last year of his contract.
Wake up in the clubhouse feeling like Ken Griffey.
www.nextyearisouryear.blogspot.com
Amongst other things Brat has no creativity
We do not see Brat doing things we commonly see other O coordinators do. We do not see enough motion. We do not see Brat maximizing the talent he has by putting his players in the best position to showcase their strengths. Look at the other side of the ball with Zimmer. He is moving Michael Johnson to SAM. Why? Because it works to MJ’s strength and it helps the Bengals D tremendously. It will allow Johnson to get favorable matchups while rushing the passer. It will also benefit other players because they don’t know if he is going to rush or drop back in coverage. These type of things we never see Brat try.
I know that I'm going to get killed for this, but....
Ludwig has a point, and that is that there wasn’t a whole lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball last year, especially after Henry went down. And I know that most of us credit Lewis for transforming this team into a running team last year, but it was Brat who was drawing up the plays.
And please, before you throw rotten eggs and tomatoes at me, let me unfold this umbrella.
This is our year!
by Paul Cannon on May 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I admire your courage, sir…but by the end of the day today, I suspect you may need to see a grief couselor.
RUUN, FORREST, RUUUNN!!!!!!
by Bengals NFL Champs on May 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd say i'd agree with Chick to some extent
Not saying Brat is good or bad, but looking over the last couple season’s there has not been a lot to work with. Injuries to C, QB, and a lack of a consistency as a whole out of the WRs and TEs have really hurt the offense since Braham’s career ended.
This offense hasn’t had the personnel to be too dynamic in 4-5 years.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on May 17, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
While I see your point
Brat still doesn’t do anything to help either. He hasn’t had a lot of talent however, he hasn’t maximized the talent he has had either. Like I said above where is the motion? He doesn’t do anything creative to get favorable matchups. He has NO excuse this year and we will see what happens. Obviously I hope he is amazing but I don’t think he will be amazing. At best he will do “OK”
He put Roland in motion quite a few times… :)
Of course, my point isn’t that we should keep Brat, my point is just that he takes more of the blame than he deserves. Should we find a better OC? Probably – but when Dan Coats, JP Foschi, an aging L. Coles and an ineffective Caldwell are the tools that this team had to work with, then there probably isn’t a O Coordinator in the league who could have gotten much out of that group. Don’t forget that the offense was going pretty well when Henry (RIP Slim) was still running with us.
I’ll put it this way – If our offense doesn’t get a top 15 finish with the tools that we’ve acquired this year, then Brat is probably the first person that should be shown the door.
This is our year!
Well, where in the hell (heres an egg for ya)
was the creativity that you need when your offense was f**ked up. He ran the same plays and if it wasn’t for Carson calling audibles and running the no huddle in the last minutes of those games (Which wasn’t Brat ), they would have lost 3-4 more games. Then they wouldn’t have made it to the playoffs…
I think Carson makes Brat look good. Remember “run, run, pass, punt…” I don’t know how many times I called this during a game day thread and how many threads. If I had the time, I’d look it up and tell you.
Watch out for the head of lettuce…..
nobody complained about the offense in 2005
But in 2005 we had a few great WR’s.
The offense is not unyeilding, but fluidly changes to match the players we have (which is good).
If we try to run the 2005 offense with the 2009 WR’s, we don’t win the division last year.
In 2009 we had only 1 good WR, but had a great run blocking line, and a good power runner, and a very good defense. So we ran ball-control, power football (just like NYJ did), and it got us a division title.
This year we still have the 1 good WR. But added a decent WR (Bryant), and have a few young WR’s (Shipley, Briscoe, Caldwell). Plus we finally have a TE who can catch (Gresham), plus Coffman this year.
We still got the power runner in Benson, and the good o-line.
So before we crucify the O-Cord, let’s see what he actually does w/the tools he’s been handed this season.
keep making excuses for Brat...
05’, Carson was the one that was running the no huddles and calling audibles. Wake up people. As long as Brat continues to call the plays as he’s done for 07, 08, and 09, we will see run, run, pass, punt. Brat might be (i doubt it) a pretty good designer of plays and the players can execute the plays well, but when you don’t use the plays that you have designed and don’t change as the game changes, it’ll bite you in the ass. That is what has happened here. He did what he had to last year, but it very well could have been a lot better. If he opened the play book past page 6, we would have won a few more games….
Not really true
Even in 2005 they did things that were predictable. Just couldn’t be stopped as easily.
by occams_tiger_teeth on May 17, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Who gives a F about baseball?
And if you do, then go to another blog site.
If you don't live like you wanna, you live like you shouldn't
Nice to see...
Blog writers talk about more then just their team, but the entire community in which their team supports. I for one love baseball and glad to see someone smacking Pujols and STL around!
by TCfromDubVee on May 17, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Reds usually do well until the All Star break
if they are 1st or 2nd when the trainwreck of a game known as the All-Star game rolls around, that’s a fine and good and such….but let’s see if they can actually keep up that pace for a whole season, for a change.
The Reds
were pretty damn good last 2 months of the season last year. But we fell so far behind right after the All Star game, in July and August, they couldn’t recover from the deficit.
MY 'Stros...
Are sucking huge donkeydick this year… And wer’e thinking about trading oswalt :-/
Yonder Alonso and Travis Wood for Roy Oswalt.
Write it down.
Or don’t, cuz it prolly won’t happen…
No amount of prosperity is sufficient to eliminate all misfortune, and sloth is impervious to opportunity.
Hello first place Reds ..... Goodbye first place Reds.
Call me when they are still there after 120 games or so. I have been burned too many times. I used to love Marty’s voice on the radio – now it makes me cringe.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
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