Bengals Banter: Reggie Kelly Begins Mentorship of Jermaine Gresham; Adam Jones Impressing Everyone With Humbleness
You know I'm in the middle of a growth spurt when I decide not to rip into the Dayton Daily News within a soapbox post. Maybe it's because their latest embarrassment highlighted a positive outlook on the Bengals, citing other teams as "worse with NFL arrests". Alright, it's only positive comparatively speaking of course. While the piece shows that other teams in the NFL have "problems" with "off-the-field" conduct from its players, the point is that the Dayton Daily News can't get past this. They're infatuated with it. Whether it's criticizing the team for signing Adam Jones, or Matt Jones, or drafting guys like Carlos Dunlap (character related to work ethic), they're stuck in the mud on anything that the Bengals do off the field. Honestly. I think they thrive on it.
It concludes:
The fact is, every team has its share of problems, and players are getting arrested at an alarming rate.
This is an NFL problem and not just a Bengals problem.
Right. So why the hell are we bringing this up now?
+ One of the more encouraging notes during this week in OTAs is how quickly Reggie Kelly is taking Jermaine Gresham under his wing. It's not that we didn't expect it; it's why Kelly returned. But knowing, seeing and hearing about that camaraderie between mentor and apprentice is awesome. And Kelly likes what he sees in the rookie Tight End.
“Looking at his body type and how physical he is, he’s going to be an every down tight end. I have to make sure I nurture him and bring him up the right way. We’ve been working. After practice yesterday make sure to work with him on a couple passes. I just made sure to tell him that he doesn’t have to be like every tight end in the league. He doesn’t have to be one-dimensional. He has the opportunity to be able to both catch and block. When you have those capabilities maximize them and be the best you can be and that can set you apart.”
+ On Tuesday, Jermaine Gresham went to the weight room on the fist day of OTAs, sought Reggie Kelly and introduced himself.
“That’s a sign of a guy who’s humble. That’s the sign of a guy who wants to learn,” Kelly said after Wednesday’s practice. “I’m going to do what it takes to help him along.”
+ Carson Palmer relates the Kelly mentorship of Gresham to when he came into the league and Jon Kitna took him under his wing.
“(Kitna) taught me how to study, how to prepare and how to take care of my body besides how to play football,” Palmer said. “Reggie will rub off on all those things. He’s played more years than anyone would expect him to play. It’s not all athletic ability and God-given talent. It’s the things he does away from the game and how he prepares himself. The respect he shows to coaches, teammates and opponents too. Those are all little things Jermaine will pick up on. He’s a sponge and wants to learn. Combining him and Reggie it’s going to be great.
+ Joe Reedy listed Chase Coffman as having one of the more impressive catches during Wednesday's OTA.
+ Bengals rookie defensive lineman Carlos Dunlap "could have had three straight sacks on contact" during Wednesday's OTA.
+ Adam Jones sat with the media, saying all of the right things, hoping to write a future that's very different than his past. Even Chick Ludwig was impressed by Jones, writing "I must admit I was impressed with how he handled himself. He was humble, polite and confident — not cocky."
+ Pat Kirwin thinks that people are underestimating the Bengals again, writing that last "year they built a solid running game and they added some real talent in the pass attack this offseason."
+ Baltimore Ravens Pro Bowl Fullback Le'Ron McClain remains unsigned as a restricted free agent -- and he wants a long term deal.
+ Cleveland rookie safeties T.J. Ward and Larry Asante were getting beat over the middle, according to Dawgs by Nature. However, newest quarterback Jake Delhomme was reportedly accurate during 7-on-7 drills.
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So what's Coffman chopped liver?
Why the hell didn’t Kelly take Coffman under his wing last year? Why didn’t he show the kid the ropes and get him ready to play TE in the NFL? The way I see it Kelly has a job to mentor BOTH young TE’s so they can be a force in the future TOGETHER.
Coffman was so last year
Actually Kelly did take him under his wing and my assumption is he is still a mentor to Chase. Since Gresham is the snazzy new first round pick, he will get all the attention from the press in this capacity.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on May 20, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
in fact
check out this Reggie Interview.
The team carries three TE’s. Notice in the interview, Reggie repeatedly refers to “Jermaine and Chase”.
Everyone wants to hear about Gresham, but Reggie is a TEAM player. Trust me, he’s been working with Chase more than any of us will ever know.
3 yards and a pile of dust
by Hudepohl Dey on May 20, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Laughs
All of this “under the wing” and “mentor” jazz is pretty hilarious. Once again, Reggie Kelly’s value to this team is ridiculously overrated (10-6 without his wings for baby birds to cuddle under). Although success is never guaranteed, a first round pick generally has a pretty good idea how to play football. Kelly won’t run TE drills and won’t call the plays. He’ll give Gresham and Coffman a few tips on how to block(both are already better receivers), then it’s really up to them to carve out their own niche from that point forward. We’re talking about grown men here. Not troubled teens or babies that need spoonfed.
And a big congratulations to Pacman Jones for not being a total piece of human garbage. Welcome to the rest of society, where most people aren’t patted on the back for not punching a stripper. Keep in mind: both he and Slim were always considered to be personable, mild-mannered dudes in the clubhouse. Don’t assume he’s turned the corner just because he hasn’t told Geoff Hobson or anyone on the coaching staff to eff off. Proceed with cauton, playaz.
+1
I realize we’re supposed to be positive about Jones now that he’s here, and I do wish him success on and off the field… but walking the walk is what counts, not these semi-scripted interviews. What we see from him over two weeks doesn’t matter; two years will. After all, it’s not like he imploded his first practice in either Tennessee or Dallas.
do people really not try to call on personal experiences before they post
did you ever play a sport? if so, you would realize that people who are really good at what they do (and you’d be hard pressed to find someone who believes there are 3 better blocking TEs in the NFL) can help people grow as players. 10-6 without the baby birds to learn, but how did our TEs do all season? yeah, top of the charts… i’ll take kelly who is at least a step up in receiving from dennis roland in the jumbo package and blocks just as well. not every TE is supposed to be Gates or Clark or Winslow. Sometimes, a very good blocker is what you need at that position and if he can help Gresham do that, then he’s well worth the contract and our TEs will be better. Not to mention he’s a leader in the clubhouse and can teach the young guys how to be a pro.
but i agree on the jones paragraph. i haven’t punched a stripper in days and no one has even said good job.
RIP Slim.
Yeah, I’ve played sports as I think most Bengal fans have. Has nothing to do with Reggie Kelly or my ability to form an opinion on what he means to this team. Sure, he’ll help, but not nearly to the extent that some of you suggest. We’re not talking about a Hall of Famer here or even a Pro Bowler. Reggie Kelly: Good guy. Good blocker. Not a great overall tight end. Mindless drooling over a marginal player. Gresham seems like a mature dude. He’ll listen, but but I don’t see him holding Kelly’s hand and following him around all day. Unless he’s gunning for 20 catch, 250 yard seasons.
BTW, the defensive line played horribly last year without John Thornton’s hugs and kisses and the Reds are still reeling from that Sean Casey trade.
it's not just us
it’s palmer, lewis, willie anderson, john thornton and a ton of people who were in that locker room. you need a solid veteran presence in order to develop MOST rookies. I won’t say all, but most rookies need a veteran to lean on and help them out to truly be the best they can be. Ask TO about playing with Rice, Young about Montana, etc. And I don’t think you can get a more ringing endorsement than kelly got from rex ryan. but apparently you’re only into TEs that put up big receiving #s. because that’s done a lot for the bucs and browns with winslow. why don’t we just get rid of TEs and linemen all together and run with 9 WRs a running back and a QB. we’d be unstoppable. think of all those yards and TDs.
RIP Slim.
But how good were we and how well did we run the ball 2006-2008? I’m not saying Kelly is terrible, but his influence is highly overrated. Yes…TO….Rice…. Montana…Young. Hall of Famers. Reggie Kelly has not made a single Pro Bowl and is a virtual unknown outside of Cincinnati, where we’ve been hearing he’s such a great guy and great blocker for so long that no one dares challenge the thought.
Winslow is a quality player stuck on shitty teams. Very bad analogy. How about Dallas Clark? Antonio Gates? Jeremy Shockey? Jason Witten? I’m pretty sure their teams aren’t sucking it due to the fact they know how to catch a football and aren’t glorified tackles.
Food for thought: If the Bengals thought so much of Reggie Kelly and his production, why for the love of god have they been trying to replace him with Ben Utecht, Chase Coffman, and now Jermaine Gresham?
“The Bengals prefer blocking tight ends.”
Pure, unadulterated bullshit. They’ve been looking for a receiving threat for years and finally got one that’ll be a stud with or without Reggie Kelly’s cuddles and kisses.
Replacing Reggie
I don’t think they tried to replace Reggie with Utecht or Coffman, I think they tried to expand what they can do at TE.
As for why to replace Kelly with Gresham, Reggie is 33 and coming off a torn Achilles, while Gresham was the best TE in the draft. It is time to replace him.
I think we are all drooling over a Gresham, Kelley, Coffman combo… as an upgrade over Coats, Foschi, and Roland. As for Kelly, he is a stable, reliable presence… who was the surefire starter after last year before he got hurt, he is a great blocker, good pass catcher, provides veteran leadership and maturity, and will help us win some games this year. Not sure why you’re hating on the guy
Hating and saying someone is overrated are different things. I do like this year’s crop of tight ends much more than 2009. Let’s just get off of this infantile talk of “wings” and “mentoring”. Gresham’s a man who won’t need any degree of coddling to succeed.
Mentoring is not coddling
Mentoring can be showing what is different in the NFL vs College that the coaches can’t. Subtle things we don’t see, but are important. Reggie Kelly as you say has average talent but lasted in the NFL for 12 years. You do that with preparation and work, and if he can pass those aspects to Gresham it could help Gresham go on to be a Hall of Famer. Menotring isnt following someone all day but being there when he asks for advice, or pointing something out during practice or after a play. But they will be together all day because this summer, they will eat together, do drills together, be in TE meetings and offensive meetings together and wait on the sideline for the next TE to be called between plays together. I don’t know that they will hold hands all day, but they will be together.
Fullback Le'Ron McClain - Sounds Good?
Besides being a Pro Bowl caliber player, it may help to get some more inside info on the current Ravens team. Same with Gibril Wilson on any insider tips on Miami and maybe even from the Steelers with the Mendenhall connection, though that’s a stretch.
"Humbleness" (see article title)
The word you’re looking for is humility.
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