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Bengals Banter: Super Bowl in New York/New Jersey Shouldn't Set Precedence

The NFL announced Tuesday that Super Bowl XLVIII will be played in New York's newest stadium in 2014. Or New Jersey. Whatever. Many believe that this could set a precedence, bringing the world's biggest game to other open-aired venues in cold-air cities in the future. Think of it. Snow, cold, all of the epic images form which football was born. Plus, each city that hosts the Super Bowl would see a massive injection of capital into their respective economies. Think Cincinnati could use between $300-400 million for hosting the Super Bowl? Maybe the Banks Project would be completed before we colonize Saturn's moon Titan.

I spoke about this for a bit at the Washington Post's The League, writing that while it would seem awesome for the city that hosts the game, along with the imagery of the big game played in the snow, I'm not certain if moving the big game to open-air cold-city venues is the best move. It's not really about the fans because let's face facts, who could reasonably afford Super Bowl tickets among us and not feel the sting of the purchase? No, it's more about the game. Would the product on the field suffer if the elements were bad. Bad weather games are no more entertaining than games played in ideal conditions. In fact, a game that ends in a 3-0 win with a last minute field goal because no one could generate an offense in those conditions would be quite boring. That's not to suggest that we're always embattled with snow storms every day of every winter. We're not. We get a few good ones, but it's also very unlikely that a snow storm would occur while the game is being played. And at that point, is there much of a different between a torrential rainstorm and a heavy snowstorm? Both are bad conditions and both could led to a very bad and boring product.

There's good arguments for it and good arguments against it. Either way, in the end, I really want the Super Bowl taken out of domes. Please. No more domes.

+ Jason pointed out Tuesday night of Jerome Simpson's OTAs this week. Coaches, media and the players are impressed so far with some ridiculous catches. It's great that the kid is growing and he's finally coming around. But I'm still cautious. Aside from the consistency, which is big, we've heard and seen great Simpson receptions before. But if he's going to make an impression, he's doing it right.

+ Dave argues that the Bengals offense has to do a better job adjusting.

+ The owners elected to table a vote of changing overtime rules for the regular season.

+ If you missed it, a playable version of Pacman was on Google's homepage on May 21 and May 22. As a result, a study concluded that Pacman cost companies $120 million in lost productivity.

+ Chad Ochocinco reportedly injured himself trying to "squat 420 without a warm was dumb of me."

+ A Florida high school coach was fired after he sent his girlfriend an inappropriate picture on his phone. The mother of the girlfriend sent that to the coach's boss and he was fired as a result. Let me break it down. Adult male sends an "inappropriate" photo to his adult girlfriend. Adult girlfriend's mother sees picture, tattles on the adult male and he's fired, most likely because EVERYONE overreacts to EVERYTHING these days.

+ Jared Allen cut his mullet. Noooo.

+ Mike Leake was DOMINATING again for the Cincinnati Reds. Unfortunately, Drew Stubbs lost a fly ball in center field that led to the game's first run last in the game during the Reds 2-1 loss to the Pittsburgh Pirates.

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I think it should move around a bit more

I understand that you don’t want the “weather” to decide the game. I also understand that you want a place that has some tourist appeal. At the same time, it’s football.

Personally, I would like to see a system where the game is rotated around giving every city a chance to host—not saying that every city will necessarily play host, but it shouldn’t be based on good weather or a dome. It should be based on whether or not a city can provide the amenities (hotels, tourist attractions, extra events, etc) necessary to host such an event. Honestly, I don’t see how Indianopolis “rates” where Cincinnati does not (other than the dome thing).

It would benefit those cities as well as the NFL but generating more community interest around the spectacle.

by goffchile on May 26, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

"Adult male sends an "inappropriate" photo to his adult girlfriend"

Yes, you are technically right. They are both adults. No crime has been commited. However the coach is 32 and the girl is 20. She was a student at the school 2 years ago, when the courtship likely started. Would you want that creep around your kids? I get it, most 20 year olds tend to look a little hotter than most 30 year olds.
“overreacts”? I would call it a reaction. The community should have the right to set a quality standard for the character of the men coaching and shaping the minds of their kids. Shlong pics to last years cheerleaders might be legal however they might not be a good idea.

by steve whodey on May 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever, dude.

The law dictates that at age 18 a woman can participate in this sort of activity. That decision has been made – its not up to you or anybody else to decide that 20 is still too young. If you’re going to disregard the legal age of consent and choose your own based on your own subjective moral code, then how young is too young? If she was 21 would it be a problem? What about 22, 23?

What exactly makes you think that the relationship started when she was still a student at the school? If that’s the case then obviously there would be an issue with a faculty member dating a student, but there’s nothing to indicate that that was ever the case. To just assume that the type of man who would date a 20 year old high school graduate is also the kind of guy who would screw around with high school students of borderline legal status is a pretty big reach.

The parents are not out of line for wanting to influence their daughters relationship choices. They don’t agree with her dating a 32 year old (or at least this particular 32 yr old), and that’s okay. Where they did step over the line, however, was in involving his employer. The school is absolutely out of line.

by Jaegner on May 26, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice vid.

Dukes said the exact same things we’ve all been saying.

by Jaegner on May 26, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

more like

hundreds of dollars each hour…lmao

3 yards and a pile of dust

by Hudepohl Dey on May 26, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dmanit chad..

GREAT JOB!!!! not…

85 + 15 = 100...

by Trevor Long on May 26, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

OK Josh, that argument makes no sense.

Let’s see if I have this right (maybe I don’t?)…

Bad weather games are no more entertaining than games played in ideal conditions. In fact, a game that ends in a 3-0 win with a last minute field goal because no one could generate an offense in those conditions would be quite boring.
Either way, in the end, I really want the Super Bowl taken out of domes. Please. No more domes.

Isn’t this an inherent contradiction? If you don’t want horrid weather turning two teams that are supposed to be the best in football into the equivalent of slugs sllllooooowwwwlllyy crawling around on a leaf, why then would you be opposed to a dome? I’d think you’d want MORE dome games, not less!

by FriarBob on May 26, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

"Isn’t this an inherent contradiction?"

Oh yea. I just hate domes, but not for the weather. I believe football is an outdoor sport. I kind of put the point in as a detached argument — which isn’t completely outside the norm for me, you know this. :)

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by Josh Kirkendall on May 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Google thing is a weird coincidence

seeing as we’ve got our own Pacman who will likely cause a steep drop in productivity from quite a few passing games.

by Jaegner on May 26, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Playing a cold weather Super Bowl

I think it’s a great idea. This should be something they do every year. Football is played outside all year long in weather. They say weather shouldn’t decide games, well why not. They play every game in the regular season in weather unless your a dome team. They play meaningfull games in the playoffs in bad weather. Remember Patriots vs Raiders AFC championship game and the famous tuck rule BS. That was a great game to watch. Bengals vs Chargers AFC Championship game Below zero. There are a lot of great games played in bad weather, so I think it’s a good idea. It favors fast teams to play in domes with turf ala the St louis Rams over pound it out teams. Doesn’t anybody else get sick of all of the east coast teams in college football having to go play in the Rose Bowl VS USC on there home field, Florida Played Michigan a few Years ago at Florida’s home field. Ohio State plays LSU in there Bowl game in Louisiana. And this is all because of the weather. I would kill to have USC come to Ohio State and play us in a so called neutral site like Paul Brown Stadium in January and see if thats fair for them. Play the game like it is supposed to be played outside. This isn’t baseball it’s football not weather permiting. The better team will rise to the challange and make the adjustment to the weather. It’s like there trying to be the NBA and make sure they score lots of points and have no defense. Just play football.

by POGO94 on May 26, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

First Question: When did Ohio become a cold state? I’ve lived in Ohio and am currently in Minnesota. Ohio winters are like a tropical paradise compared to where I’m living now.

Second Question: Doesn’t playing in a dome favor a certain type of team (especially in today’s pass happy NFL)? And if that’s true isn’t it a bit unfair?

Third Question: Does anybody care how uncomfortably cold the ultra-rich would be while attending a super bowl? The best football fans go to cold weather games all the time – it’s just part of football.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on May 27, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

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