Mike Zimmer on Adam "Pacman" Jones: "I’m not going to let this kid screw up our chemistry."
It's a matter of time, writes most sources. Adam "Pacman" Jones is likely signing with the Cincinnati Bengals, which got me thinking. Do I need to write Adam "Pacman" Jones every time? Can I just say Pacman? Mind you, it took me a year after Chad Johnson changed his name to Ochocinco before I started writing the name. I hate marketing through the change of one's name. But if I say Adam Jones, it doesn't necessarily have that same impact of the player we're getting when I say, "Pacman". It's a minor thing, I know. When the balance is upset and there's no order, I lose my mind.
Speaking of ______ Jones, Mike Zimmer weighed in on the possible signing by reinforcing a point that most of us kind of knew already, though didn't express much during yesterday's insane realization that the team might sign the guy that's perceived as the Mecca of character issues. And if Zimmer doesn't calm your fears, nothing will.
He’s not coming in to start, Zimmer told Jones. He has to play with more discipline than he has shown in his career. He won’t put up with anything that hurts the chemistry of a defense that has grown so far so fast.
“He looked me in the eye and shook my hand,” Zimmer says, and in his world of a man’s word, that means a lot.
Zimmer has spent a lot of time talking to one of Jones’ patrons, former cornerback Deion Sanders. The two remain close after Zimmer coached Sanders in Dallas. Zimmer has liked what he has heard. Sanders has told him, “He’ll play for you.”
Sanders, it can be assumed, has told Jones what to expect.
“If we sign him,” Zimmer said, “I’ll be on him at all times.”
Here's the best part about what Zimmer said.
“We’ve got a bunch of strong character guys on defense,” Zimmer said. “I’m not going to let this kid screw up our chemistry."
Trust in Zim. That should never be challenged.
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why it works from a football standpoint
The multi year deal makes sense. It will be reasonably priced and probably include some playing time incentives for the years after 2010. If he rekindles his playing ability and contract negotiations with JJ or Hall falter, Jones would create a bridge in moving on without one of those guys (and in a worse case scenario, both if something crazy occurs). If he not a good player, he can be cut. All of that being said, I do not want a player with his baggage to be signed by Cincinnati . . .ever.
I’m not going to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves he has matured, but he is a couple years older and has seemed to have stayed away from trouble since leaving Dallas. The locker room has leaders and there are guys in it who have turned their lives and careers around (Tank and Cedric come to mind). If Jones is serious about it, he may be in the right locker room and with the right coaches in Marvin and Zimmer.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on May 5, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
Ever
you said ever so why did you continue with the post? Ever means Ever !!!!!
by James Schmid the great on May 5, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
the guy is a no good thug
that being said, he can play, the nfl, for the most part, is not filled with the most respectable people, if he can somehow keep his head down and play well, this time next year we’ll love him
i think so too...
he’s a talented dude. we are lucky to have him as a backup. i am sure he won’t stay out of trouble off the field but he’ll stay disciplined on it. that’s all we can hope for with the amount of money we’re paying him.
"Laynce, hit a homer here, I will never, ever say another bad thing about you." - Ash
To calm your fears about the nickname...
Adam did, after all, try to drop the nickname in ’08 while he was with the Cowboys…
Why not help the guy out with his new NFL persona and just call him Adam?
unless zimmer is going to handcuff himself to pacman 24/7
theres nothing zimmer can but deal with the aftermath of an issue that pops up. saying he won’t let it happen is just lip service unless zimmer plans on physically addressing the situation before it can occur.
dallas hired a full time bodyguard to babysit pacman and that 24/7 baby sitter didn’t work out. Hope zimmer has more in his bag of tricks than just words. he’s going to need them.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
here's Zimmer's take on your concern
"If it doesn’t work out, if something happens, that’s it and we move on," Zimmer said. "It’s no different than signing any other free agent, but of course he’s going to get the attention."
3 yards and a pile of dust
by Hudepohl Dey on May 5, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
seen here
“I’m not going to let this kid screw up our chemistry.”
pro-active
“If it doesn’t work out, if something happens, that’s it and we move on,”
reactive.
meaning if pacman screws up, cutting him after the fact will be to late to stop effects on the team chemistry.
hence my point of zimmer’s plan as little more than lip service.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Not exactly. Cutting him after the fact stops him from getting in trouble again as a Bengal.
Whether or not he has an effect on the locker room, however, really has nothing to do with whether he actually gets in trouble with the law or the commissioner. Only his behavior in the locker room can affect team chemistry, and if he causes problems in the locker room his butt is food for Zimmer’s pet tiger.
wish i lived in the world you describe
because anytime a bengal gets arrested (or a former bengal for that matter) in the place i’m from, the national media starts the blitz bs coverage of the convict bengals all over again. which is exactly the sort of crap that does affect the locker room.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
really?
if your coworker got arrested, would you stop working hard?
if so, i wouldn’t hire you.
RIP Slim.
Do you think our locker room is really affected by this?
I mean maybe a few years ago but the players we have now I think use this as a reason to play harder and give even more effort. I think Zimmer has definitely used this as motivation and it seems to work. For the most part I think our locker room does have enough character guys that it will not affect the locker room. If anything its just another way Zimmer can use it for motivation. Hopefully we won’t have to worry about this though.
2006 & 2007
weren’t that long ago.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I guess we're already toast then...
If we are that weak then we have far more trouble then we are already aware of. I mean Purify just got arrested so I guess the locker room is going to crumble? If thats all it takes then we weren’t going anywhere this year anyway. I believe that we are a lot stronger than than. I believe Zimmer provides us with a very strong leader at the top. I believe the players will follow his lead.
its not about purify and 1 arrest
its about gambling on a guy with 6 arrests, 12 run ins with police, and 1 that should have been both (the assault on the bodyguard the cowboys hired to babysit him. which was never formally written up nor charged).
even daugherty’s not in favor of the move.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Negative
You are so negative.
by James Schmid the great on May 5, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry if you consider being cynical of pacman negative
a player that needs a 7th chance should be wiser now and everyone else should stay positive about his situation….
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
PLEASE!
Please for the love of football, don’t get into trouble while you’re with us, Adam. Please!
Play serious ball, show your talents
I’d stand up and listen when Zimmer is willing to back up Pacman for whatever talents he still has left. This Adam Jones should be grateful that there are still organizations willing to listen to his crap. He’d better be focussed on playing football only, stay clear of alcohol if he cannot handle it, get a cab rather than getting a DUI citation, get rid of all his guns, look after his own body by getting lean and mean, manage his own tempers and personal life in accordance with a good citizen’s code of conduct. There is no more margin of error here. One wrong flick and all the Bengals fans will send you out of town. Do what you know best in football and we may appreciate your talents. There are lots of warm bodies out there that can do what you can do.

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