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A Matter of a Case Being Closed: Bengals Have The Best Cornerback Duo In The NFL

Do the Bengals have the best cornerback duo in the NFL? The homer in me says, "hell yes!". The NFL fan in me says, "yes". The passive man in your work place -- let's call him Bart -- that's so uninterested in sports that he calls a hockey puck, the ball-game-thingy even responds, "I know my depression is linked to non-sports love, therefore I say that the Bengals have the best cornerback duo in the league." Bart, you're a good guy, no matter what creepy stories Meagan from accounting has told.

Even creepy guys find love.

Countless times we've examined both cornerbacks. We always call them, "one of the best duos in the league." It gives us wiggle room, allows us to say it without actually saying it. Maybe it's time we just go ahead and say it. Johnathan Joseph and Leon Hall are the best cornerback duo in the NFL. Would it be a little too fanatical to put "all time" at the end of that? Alright, alright. One step at a time.

NFL Analyst Mike Detillier asked 12 scouts, NFL coaches and directors of player personnel which cornerback duo in the NFL was the best. Of those 12, the Bengals duo of Johnathan Joseph and Leon Hall received the most votes. The New York Jets' Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie came up second with the New Orleans Saints' Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter rounding out the top three.

“You asked for the best starting cornerback duo and I would have to go with the Bengals,” an AFC personnel chief said. “For pure talent, consistency, the ability to play tight coverage and also play the run I would go with Jonathan Joseph and Leon Hall. At first glance many might say the Jets because Darrelle Revis is better than anyone other than Nnamdi Asomugha with the Oakland Raiders, but I am not that excited about Antonio Cromartie. He is very inconsistent, not technically sound and a big time guesser out on the field. There are some good units out there, but I don’t think anyone has the talent and production out on the field that Hall and Joseph had last season.”

Joseph and Hall were back-to-back first round picks in 2006 and 2007 respectively after the Bengals passing defense routinely finished worst in the league before both cornerbacks settled in with Cincinnati. Since then, the passing defense slowly went from 26th against the pass in 2007 to sixth in 2009. Thanks to stellar play by our cornerbacks, as well as the cursing mad scientist that calls himself Mike Zimmer by day.

  Yrds/Game % Of Passes Result in 1st Down
2005 223.1 (26th) 35.6% (t-29th)
2006 238.6 (t-31st) 37.1% (32nd)
2007 230.4 (26th) 37.0 (t-29th)
2008 205.4 (15th) 33.4 (t-15th)
2009 203.1 (6th) 30.2 (2nd)

We showed this last week. But since it looks so nice...

Ranking amongst other NFL cornerbacks and comparison to the league leader
  NFL Leader Johnathan Joseph Leon Hall
Interceptions 9 6 (t-5th) 6 (t-5th)
Pass Defensed 37 26 (6th) 30 (3rd)
Tackles 88 69 (13th) 71 (15th)
PFF - Overall 28.6 10.8 (6th) 14.9 (3rd)
PFF - Coverage 31.0 9.4 (8th) 15.9 (4th)
PFF - Rush D 15.0 2.4 (t-23rd) 3.0 (t-13)

Last year, Joseph intercepted a Ben Roethlisberger pass for a touchdown early in the third quarter, cutting the defict against Pittsburgh to four points, which basically gave the Bengals enough momentum to eventually win on September 27. Soon after, against Cleveland and Baltimore in back-to-back weeks, Joseph intercepted passes near the goal line, killing both possessions that could have swung either way. In the same October 4 contest against Cleveland, Hall stripped the football from running back Jerome Harrison and watched Robert Geathers scoop it up, running 75 yards as best as a defensive lineman can, for a touchdown and an early 14-point lead in the second quarter. On October 11, Hall intercepted a Joe Flacco pass with four seconds left in the game to shut down the Ravens.

It makes sense that the Bengals want to start negotiations with Joseph now to get them out of the way with so when Hall's negotiations come, they'll be that much closer to keeping the band together. After all, I'm sure the Bengals don't want to become the NFL version of Yoko Ono, do they? That'd just be creepy.

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This only get's better...

I think that we’ll have a lot better pressure on opposing QB’s with a healthier deeper batch of talent on the d-line… If this happens these guys will get a lot more opportunities to make big plays.

by JamesShively on Jun 21, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Off topic but...

That is some hella-nice side boob in the picture

My three favorite things in the world in no particular order: My wife, sex with my wife, and The Cincinnati Bengals

by Kabash on Jun 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

someone please send this to the haters at PFT

I’ve been arguing this for months over there!!!!!

it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter

by TruWhoDey on Jun 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd be a creepy guy too if

that woman was lying next to me, all alone on a beach, with her bikini top off..

by WHYUS!! on Jun 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jun 21, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

our cornerbacks are the side-boob of our Defense...

even if you only get to admire them from afar, they are still worth every man’s attention

it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter

by TruWhoDey on Jun 21, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Typo???

How can JJoe be 13th with 69 tackles and Hall be 15th with 71 tackles???

by Andy Johnson on Jun 21, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there an echo in here?

I asked this very same question the last time these stats were posted. I never received an answer, but I too was wondering how more tackles lands you further down the stat sheet..

by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Jun 22, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Patty Cake anyone??

The bengals have a great duo at the cb position with some solid safety play in the secondary, but things can take a turn for the worst. Say crocker was to get inujured, and Nelson got to play and didnt really live up to what the coaches wanted to fillin, lets just say its miami all over……You guys face Manning , Brees,Rivers, Brady the secondary will be harrased all day, not to mention linebackers too…. I pray to god this doesnt happen

by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Jun 29, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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