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Bengals Banter: TGIF Edition; Terrell Owens, Injuries, Odom's goal

+ Injury Update. Antwan Odom, Reggie Kelly and Chris Crocker are all on the field after either suffering a serious injury last season, or after having offseason surgery. Adam Jones sat out with tightness in his hamstring, Bernard Scott twisted his ankle and Dez Briscoe, still dealing with muscle soreness, should be back by minicamp. Maualuga had a cleanup procedure that will likely sideline him during minicamp, but should be ready for training camp.

+ The Bengals will need to cut at least nine players before training camp.

+ Antwan Odom's goal this year is to average two sacks per game. I like it.

+ Michael Johnson is Chick Ludwig's "breakout player of 2010". Hard to argue, but I'm not so sure. Johnson is learning a new position, while doing a bunch of shifting around between outside linebacker and defensive end. There will be an adjustment. But if I had to pick one, he's as good a choice as any.

+ Readers respond to James Walker's "Take Your Pick" between Carson Palmer and Joe Flacco. Note: Walker had ZERO Bengals players listed in the Top Ten of his top-40 AFC North list. Zero. I guess that's a good thing. Kind of shows that this team is a team.

+ Terrell Owens, the receiver that's third all-time with 144 receiving touchdowns, is still out of work and many suspect he'll remain without a team until an injury forces someone to pick him up.

+ The newest addition of his Playbook series, Matt Bowen breaks down the Inside Zone running play (stretch play) on offense.

+ John Clayton writes five rookies he expects to breakout in the 2010 season.

+ Jeff Chadiha writes five moves that will work and five moves that won't.

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It's like Clayton et al do their level best to ignore the Bengals anytime they write anything.

Unless it’s about off-field trouble. They then develop short-term memory loss and can’t get past 2006.

by Craig Conrad on Jun 4, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

How credible can a guy be when he lists Odom as a LB?

It looks like he just mailed this in. I don’t have any trouble with his basic rankings. He did rate Carson pretty well above Flacco and I definitely agree with that.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jun 4, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

the list was produced almost immediately after the season when holmes was a steeler. It was based on production during the ’09 season.

by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Jun 4, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK I will give him that about Holmes, but Odom certainly was not a LB in 09

Maybe it was just a brain fart but I expect a pro to be better than that.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jun 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK!

I’m watching this national Spelling Bee and I’m the dumbest person in the freakin world.
Jesus Christ! I couldn’t spell samizdat, revirescent, fustanella, sautoir or even brummagem… My spell check couldn’t even do it.

by WHYUS!! on Jun 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

each ones are different origins to English

 So they said they were English words.
Except for samizdat that’s Russian and it’s the only one that actually comes up on my spell check. Go figure…

by WHYUS!! on Jun 4, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you could spell those words you would be the dumbest person in the world....

why waste your time learning to spell stupid words that you will never use?

by Diesel2405 on Jun 4, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

clearly you want to learn to spell certain words

but who the hell uses the words he was talking about? dumbass

by Diesel2405 on Jun 5, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calm Down Diesel...

You’re gonna have to let that 8th grade spelling competition go at some point… You did the best you could

by The Dealio on Jun 5, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walker is a hack

I wasn’t as down on him as most Bengals fans are until I read that article. No respect for the Bengals. Maybe after this year he’ll show some love.

by JungleJ on Jun 4, 2010 12:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

the top 40 list was from early in the year, not really recent

so I am not sure why he even cites it.

However, this goes along with all of the other media not giving the Bengals any props for their quality year.

I was in the shopping checkout line and there was a NFL 2010 preseason rag that of course said that hands down the Ravens are the very best in not just the AFC North, but for the entire AFC! REally??? Oh, they were #1, Steelers #2, Bengals #3. I LOVE IT!

By mid year we should be able to brew up a nice hot cup of SHUT THE F**K UP!

by UpStateMike on Jun 4, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

To be fair,

Walker has said that the AFCN will be a close two team race between Cincy and Baltimore. It’s hard to argue with that.

by Jaegner on Jun 4, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Also last year,

he said that the Bengals would exceed most people’s expectations and he was right about that…sure he didn’t pick them going 10-6 and 6-0 in the division, but how many Bengals fans did?

by Jaegner on Jun 4, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont have too many problems with the list

other than Ray Lewis being at #6. Dude was not even the best linebacker on his team last year. He is slower, misses tackles, and cant cover anybody any more. Carson, Cedric, Hall, or J Jo should have been in the top ten.

Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge

by Derftron on Jun 4, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Odom vs Palamalu

How can you list Palamalu (or whatever) #1 when he did so little last year. Odom had 8 sacks in 6 games. Palamalu was good when he played, but missing that much time takes you down the list in my opinion. Odom won at least 1 game more or less singlehandedly. I don’t hink Odom should be #1, but he did more against Green Bay than Lewis or Palamalu did against us. I would put Ed Reed 1st, then maybe Harrison and Roethlesberger, then Joe Thomas but after that I could see any of Odom, Palmer, Benson, Ochocinco, Halll, or Joseph. Joseph picked off Rothelsberger to seal a game against Pitt. Odom beat GB by himself, and Palmer destroyed Chicago. Show me a game that Ray Lewis won this year, and I will show you him singlehandedly lose on against us with personal fouls.

This post turned iinto a pure rant.

by jim0ijk on Jun 4, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

a horrible play call

with a miniature RB (sproles) and a team that couldnt run for shart lost that game.

it was a nice tackle, but lets not forget the other 15 games of mediocrity

Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge

by Derftron on Jun 4, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray also made two very bad plays in a row to hand Cincy the win

First he went for the Sportcenter moment and hit Chad in helmet to helmet contact and blew Chad’s helmet 20 ft. in the air. The penalty change a 4th down to a 1st down. ( I think)

Then he bit on a play fake and move out of position allowing Caldwell to make the TD just a couple of plays later. Fans seem to remember his great plays but completely ignore his bad ones.

Ray is probably the if not one of the best MLBs of all time. If he simply played solid and stopped trying to intimidate people.there would be not question about it. What many fans love about Ray don’t impress me at all.

Ray Lewis did not beat San Diego the Ravens team did. One player cannot win a game but one player can lose it.

Another example. A couple of years ago Ray went for the big Sportcenter tackle and body slam on TJ who just bounced up with the completion. Ray hurt his shoulder and was out for 3-4 games. Everyone cheered the tackle and oohed and awed until they watched Ray holding his arm a walk slowly to the sideline. What looks good is not always good.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jun 4, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why no love for Jermaine Gresham?

Dude was an absolute beast at TE in college. I have no reason to believe it will be any different in the NFL. He runs fast and hits like a truck. Its going to be fun watching him smash corners all year who try to tackle him. He is my favorite bengals pick in a long time, other then Rey Rey!

by Diesel2405 on Jun 4, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I will give them Gresham. It is extremely rare for a TE to make a huge impact as a rookie, and he was injured last year.

by jim0ijk on Jun 4, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will have a HUGE impact as a rookie for us!

If Bratkowski( who is a Retard ) uses him like he should be used dude is gonna have a huge year. I can see him being Offensive Rookie of the Year if they use the M F-er right. Bradford was the #1 pick because Gresham made him so much better. He runs over corners and linebackers are to slow to keep up with him. Him and Rey Rey are the only two picks that have ever seriously made me believe that Marvin is in control of the draft. Just wait and see what this kid does for our offense. Its gonna be a great great year for this offense. Only if the above mentioned retard uses him right

by Diesel2405 on Jun 4, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he will too

however, it won’t be popular to predict because of of the reasons I said.

by jim0ijk on Jun 4, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't put any rookie on the list

Until they do it in the pros they all can just as soon be busts as starters.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jun 4, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Bryant

I don’t see Boldin as a better move than Bryant, but I think that ESPN is intentionally hyping Baltimore. Baltimore plays 3 monday night games (one is preseason), Cincy only plays one. The writers could be toeing the party line to hype teams with multiple appearances.

by jim0ijk on Jun 4, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

you know

aside from the fact that baltimore is going to have a very good team this year.

i still think we own them until they prove me wrong. carson has always torn them apart. and ced ripped them up last year. their corners aren’t good and ed reed apparently dropped weight. oh, and how old is ray lewis?? 134? the guy played middle linebacker for the union army.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Jun 7, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

“For all the experience Weis and Crennel have had with general manager Scott Pioli and head coach Todd Haley over the years, the fact still remains that players win games.”
- Jeff Chadiha

Yeah, but coaching can lose them, which indirectly gives them the power to win them.

by hachigo! on Jun 6, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

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