Best recieving corp. of all time?
by anderk8 on Jul 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT
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So after the news today of the Bengals signing Terrell Owens my head almost exploded. I wrote a post earlier in the preseason giving my reasons for why I think we now have the best WRs in the leauge. Now that we got TO I really don't know what to think. Before this there were many possible WR combinations for the field.
1.OCHO
2. Bryant
3.Shipley
4.Caldwell
5.Jones
6.Simpson
With two/three of those guys being possesion recievers and four deep threats with Ocho, Bryant, Jones, and Simpson.
Now the line-up can go so many ways especially with Chad saying he'll play the Robin to TO"s Batman, does that mean TO is the #1. Doubtful. That job should still belong to Chad but we will see what happens. My projected line-up, which can be very flexible.
1. Chad
2.T.O.
3.Bryant
4.Shipley
5.Caldwell
6.Jones/Simpson
Now that is some line-up on paper. To think that four of these guys Chad, T.O., Bryant, and Matt Jones have spent the majority of their carreers as Number 1 wide recievers on their respective teams. Throw in a guy like Simpson who was supposed to be our future(NOW) number one, whos been steadily improving. And guys that just flat out make the tough catches Caldwell, Shipley, hopefully Gresham and Coffman. And your looking at what has the potential to be the best WR class EVER seen. And if you play fantasy football, you'd be wise to draft #9 this year.
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Maybe in '05...
Back then TO and Chad would have been absurd. Now that TO is 36 and Chad is getting older at 32, “best ever” is a REALLY big stretch.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
Negatory
Owens is old, Bryant is unimpressive so far, Ocho is good, and a bunch of unproven rookies. SO to answer the question in your title, No it’s not.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
disagreed...
Two HOF WRs on the field at the same time. Unproven rookies? Maybe. I think Caldwell proved himself against the Ravens and the Steelers last year. Personally I like Matt Jones, but his chances are diminishing. We’ll have to make this decision after the season.
You think Ocho is a HOF WR?
LOL…..
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
But… the jacket said so.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
Let alone TO? If Cris Carter, Tim Brown and Issac Bruce are not in, TO and especially Chad stand no shot.
20 catches in a game is pretty good, no? And if he can get a ring this year to solidify his career he’ll be in the HOF.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
Does not even hold the record anymore.
And if he can get a ring this year to solidify his career he’ll be in the HOF.
I Lol’d.
+1
That’s a huge “if”
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Your all dumb. T.O has the sixth most receptions and third most TD receptions in NFL history. That gets you into the H.O.F.
Issac Bruce has a Superbowl ring and more receptions than TO, and he probably won’t be in the HOF. Hate to break it to ya, but 1,000 receptions is not going to keep getting guys in the HOF with the way the game is changing. I can name you 5-6 guys in the league right now who are most likely going to end their careers with 1,000+ catches.
To mention TO in the same breath as those in Canton is utterly stupid. TO has been a great player, but has single handily killed teams.
TO is in the HOF
POINT BLANK PERIOD. Dude is like in the top ten in every major receiving category. No way TO does not make the HOF.
Oh, and atleast Cris Carter will be in the HOF one day.
So, if Hines Ward has more yards, TD's, playoff games and Super Bowl rings than T.O....
Does that mean Hines goes in BEFORE T.O. or after?
Just wondering.
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Hines as of right now is the only active HOF WR in the league IMO.
by Mr MaLoR on Jul 28, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec this
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hines Ward/T.O.
I hate the Steelers(and everyone else in Our Division)But I will give credit where credit is due.Hines Ward and T.O. will both be H.O.F.‘ers one day.T.O. could make a step toward that cause if he would tone it down with the talk and go on a mission to wreck all D.B.’s he comes up against this season.Same for Johnson.Play ball and talk to the D’B.‘s while on the field.Don’t talk garbage and let other coaches tack their comments up on their club house walls.It would light a fire under our butts when i played.And most of the time it would lead to Us beating those teams.Talk on the field and not in the media!Play to Win always.
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Old time redsfan
by Oldtime redsfan on Aug 16, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!
If they want to talk football with at least some degree of perspective IMO that is cool but ask yourself just how often does that really happen? They are like a stray dog that you feel sorry for and throw a bone. They will never go away until you stop feeding them. These posts are not worthy of a response. It just encourages them yo come over here and stink up our board. Steeler fans are better guests.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
And pleeeeease....
Stop selling the trolls your tickets to Paul Brown Stadium home games…it just encourages them to visit and spend their money here in the City of Queens…
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Nope.
IMO TO isn’t the TO from few years ago. I don’t think he has the break away speed but will be a good redzone target.
As for best wr core in history? Nope.
As for the current league. I think Indy has a better core IMO.
Wayne, Collie, Garcon, Gonzalez.
Jets have a good one too.
Edwards, Holmes, Cotchery.
And Ravens
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahhahahaha
kick rocks nerd
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
We'll see
If TO was any good, he would have been signed by now. Even the Rams said he wasn’t good enough to join their roster. That’s pretty bad.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true at all
He just wasnt a fit for most teams. And Mike Lombardi made a good point at NFL.com. The fact that he still got 850 yards on a Buffalo team with no O-line and no QB is still impressive.
Ocho, TO, Bryant, Shipley, & Gresham >>>> Boldin, Mason, Heap, & ????
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
He just wasnt a fit for most teams.
Yea, perfect character for your team. Here is the list so far.
Cedric Benson supposedly participated in a bar-room brawl in Texas and has had several other incidents.
Rey Maualuga was arrested on drunk-driving charges.
Antonio Bryant has found himself on a number of different teams due to character issues.
Matt Jones is a recovering drug addict and has had his share of problems in the past.
Tank Johnson and Adam Jones were two of the worst behaved NFL players before joining the Bengals.
Chad Ochocinco could be the biggest headache.
Owens could prove an even bigger headache.
People deserve second chances, right?
And if they screw up again after the Bengals give them a second chance, their ass is gone.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
Uhhhhhhh
Ray Lewis was involved in a MURDER
Flacco had a unibrow
and I guarantee the Ravens have plenty of knuckleheads. These are football players afterall
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
oh, I forgot to mention that Stallworth killed someone while drunk
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Ray didn’t do shit, I’ll take a unibrow over your hooligans, and Stallworth stayed with the man and tried to keep him alive, and he actually served his time unlike some of your criminals.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Your arguments are lazy
Every team has players that cause problems, your team is no different whether or not you want to see that. But have fun living in denial!
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Your team is like a freakin half-way-house
We only have a couple players who have gotten in trouble, you guys have like what 8-10?
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and your arguments are in shape and always doing something i suppose? you’re the one with a flimsy argument.
Ummmm....right.
People deserve second chances, right?
And if they screw up again after the Bengals give them a second chance, their ass is gone.
Please tell me how many teams Owens has now signed a contract with.
That’s what I thought. His chances go far beyond seconds.
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you have 2 people who have killed folks currently on your active roster
Cedric- drinks on a boat…who doesn’t? and gets sucker punched/jumped in bar
Maualuga- has turned his life around and has been sober since the incident
Bryant- heresay…nothing to back that up
Matt Jones- Loves the nose candy, but won’t make the team anyway
Tank and Pacman—- the past is the past (right Ray, right Donte?)
Ochocinco….child please
Owens—again the past is that past behavior wise….
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
I’m not even going to bother on this one.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll break it down nice and easy for you.
Ocho>Boldin
TO<Mason
Gresham<Dickson,Pitta,heap
Shipley<<<<<<<<<<<Stallworth, Clayton, Reed
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldnt agree.......less
I say Ocho and Bolding are a wash
I say TO and Mason are good at different things, but basically a wash
Dickson is really good (I am a Duck Alum.) but I see no reason to think he is any better than Gresham. they are probably both about equal (although every scout had Gresham as the top TE). Heap is finished.
and I would say that Bryant, Shipley, and the other backups are better than Stallworth (who hasnt done anything in 4-5 years) and Clayton
We all get to find out in a few months though. It probably comes down to Palmer vs Flacco anyways
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
David reed is looking 10x better than Shipley
The coaches are saying he has only dropped like 2-3 passes out of the 100 reps hes been getting in minicamp and training camp so far.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
10x better! The NFL better watch out!!
Too bad every writer that covers the AFC North has tabbed Shipley as the best value pick and the breakout rookie…….not Reed.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Oh? So because some guy who thinks that, and types it up and calls it true makes it true? If that were the case Frank walker would be better than revis.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The most important thing
is that we have top 10 corners that can cover your recievers, while you are bringing the same bums back that blew multiple games for you last year.
The Bengals are bringing back a young and improving D while the Ravens are bringing back a declining and elderly D. See you clowns in September
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
The bengals only gave up 203 yds per game through the air last year, and the ravens gave up 207 yds per game can you believe that?!?!? 207!! those 4 yards are the difference between elite and utterly useless right?
They gave up more passing TDs than the ravens (cin- 18, bal – 17) and picked off fewer passes (cin – 19, bal – 22). opposing QBs also had a better passer rating against them. your corners have name recognition; awesome….don’t care. they didn’t do their job any better than the ravens.
Mr Malor
It’s easy to make Points when your only considering your point of view/opinion!!! stop being a jackass
Well Deftron’s vie/opinion is skewed. Just because I throw the stats out there to show him he is in the wrong place to make a statement like that does not make me a jackass, so don’t come at me with personal attacks because I have done nothing of that nature.
Your CBs
were the ones that let game winning drives happen over and over again last year, remember? Or need I remind you of what Cincy and a few other teams did to you in the 4th quarter.
And listing team Defense statistics dont accurately reflect the quality of you DBs. Your front line was a little better and I would say your LBs were too, but other than Ed Reed, your DBs werent that good.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
I got this MaLoR
This one word is their Cryptonite,“Revis”……
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He shut down everybody
Including San Diego the following week
You do realize that the Ravens lost 20-3 in their final game last year dont you?
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
To the colts who ended up going to the superbowl
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
true.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish everyone would STOP with the REVIS
He received constant safety help when playing Chad. Watch the film.
And he won't have that luxury this year
Unless of course they want to let either TO, or Gresham, or Caldwell, or Shipley, or Bryant just go uncovered for that play. That’s cool too.
2010 - The Year of the Tiger.
by UpStateMike on Jul 29, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
EXACTLY
Point is I’m sick of hearing that Revis shut down Chad when they were on an island. Revis had a safety over the top almost every play.
That’s just ignorant. Revis shut-down receivers much better than Chad all season without safety help, and in the Bengals game, he shut-down Chad without safety help. Maybe YOU should watch the film…
Revis intercepting without safety help and covering Chad one-on-one.
He's the jackass? HA!
MaLoR posted statistics. Hmmm…I think I remember reading somewhere that someone said statistics are not opinion, they are fact.
Can’t take the heat…Well, you know the rest. :)
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
TEAM DEFENSE STATS
lets flip it around on offense.
Is Tony Romo a better QB than Drew Brees because Dallas scored more points? No
The Ravens secondary isnt good once you get past Ed Reed and anything they do get is usually because of pressure coming from quality players like Suggs, Ngata, etc.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Why thank you fair Steeler's fan
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
How many of those ints were by Reed?
The guy is carrying his leg over his shoulder and there is a distinct possibility that he won’t hit the field at all this year. You cannot lose a great player and plug some pedestrian in and expect the same result.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Leave them alone
Their rookies that were going to turn the team around turned out to be too fat a stupid to make it on the field yet, so they need to degrade someone. Just let them be. (As a disclaimer, I do think it is unfortunate and pretty terrible what happened to Kindle, and don’t really think he is stupid.)
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
I'm not spouting off on their board
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
Actually only 3 of them were by Reed
So still you guys aren’t convincing me of anything.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
MaLoR's "Opinion"???
Dude spits out hard cold stats, things that actually happened, measurables that your very own “Top 10” cornerbacks/defense laid on the turf like so many turd eggs last year, and you want to call his assertions “Opinions/Points of View?”
This is why I think that some fans are retarded.
Please, Anderk, comment solely on what I just said. Nothing more. And tell me how MaLoR was speaking about his opinions. How did his point of view dictate how your defense played. He laid out FACTS.
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Ouch.
Derftron, you better just stop now.
Your “Top 10” corners just sprung a leak statistically. Wow.
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Stats only show one side of the entire story...
Cincy was playing with a lead most of the year. Thus teams were passing more against us. So his assertion that the stats can be skewed is actually correct.
The funny part is that I had a discussion on this board about Leon Hall, and certain members over here were arguing that Hall was a top-five corner because of his statistics. I said that Hall’s numbers were a product of the Bengals’ system and that the statistics “only show one side of the story” as you just said. They thought that concept was laughable because they wanted Hall to be a top-five corner so badly.
Now, the Ravens’ pass-defense statistics are meaningless because they favor the Ravens and the Bengals are (so-clearly in your minds) a better pass-defense? Jungle John came on our board several times and criticized us for being irrational when it can to the Ravens. I don’t know, John… It looks like you have the same problem over here.
bryant hasn’t done anything… ever. and now that i think about it, shipley has a whopping 0 career receptions.
I think i like you. You get it.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
That might be the most unrealistic breakdown I’ve ever seen.
- - one of the TEs you listed isn’t going to get on the field unless you start using 3 TE sets.
- - You’re comparing 4 of our players to 8 of yours.
- - I can’t believe I have to explain this.
This is our year!
Whats wrong with the Baltimore Warrior???
You really are living in denial. FIrst on your comarison you forgot Antonio Bryant so let me do your diagram again
Ocho>Boldin
Bryant>Mason
TO>Stallworth
ShipleyReed
Caldwell>?
Grehsham, Coffman, Kelly>Dickson, PItta, Heap
Gotta love being a fan of your team right? We think Ravens WR > Bengals WR and you think otherwise. That is what is supposed to happen.
And we are right
Now lets, let them figure that out in a couple of months.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
anderk8, piece of advice - never try to use logic with A Raven fan
They think their cheerleaders and grounds crew can beat anyone and their waterboy is a better QB than Carson. Too much sewage in their drinking water when they were kids. Feel sorry for to tham but don’t encourage them
Arguing with them is like wrestling with a pig. You just get all muddy and the pig likes it.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Is sarcasm really the only way you ever respond to anything these days. Holy crap man, these blogs are for telling each other why 1 team is better than the other and we did that and you get all pissy about it. For someone your age, you may need to grow up.
When your name is in all Caps, you tend to be a little immature.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
BW you are just adorable.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I just enjoy getting your panties in a twist MaLor - it is so easy
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
A Cincinnatian talking smack about water purity?
That’s rich.
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comparing tight ends at this point in time is stupid. coffman sucks, gresham hasn’t played, two of the raven’s tight ends haven’t played and we all know heap is on the way out. you might as well not even count him.
ocho > boldin? i’d call them about even and they’ll probably put up similar numbers this year.
bryant > mason? you’re smoking some good stuff, pass it here. you fail to recognize mason doesn’t have half as many injuries as bryant and bryant has never consistently… done anything. he’s approaching (some would say he is already there) over the hill and still is looked at for his potential. youre as crazy as mike brown signing him for that ridiculous amount.
“caldwell > ?” is pretty accurate, because nobody knows who this guy is better than. he’s trash for the most part.
comparing to to stallworth is relevant how? TO will not be lining up number three.
and i’ve never heard of shipley reed.
Caldwell would be compared
To Clayton, who is also clearly better.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
T.O. is a joke.
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LOL
You guys are like super-homers aren’t you?
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe...
But that doesn’t change the fact that the Bengals are set to contend, while the Ravens, after all the hype, are falling apart.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 27, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you Kidding me?
Falling apart? How in God’s name are we falling apart?
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the Bengals know so much about how to build winning teams when they haven’t won a playoff game since before you were born BW. Trust them, they know all about good football and going far in January.
I will enjoy watching your weakass corners get burnt by Chad, TO and Bryant (if healthy.)
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
You should see how our
“Weak-ass Corners” are looking. I can’t wait to see TO get shut-down by Carr.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually that;s not too bad of a stretch. From what Bruce and MaLoR saw in Training camp, Webb has really bulked up.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
He actually is a good CB. He’s a hard hitter that has great break-away speed.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Ravens are such GREAT team builders
Then I would have thought they would have built a team to WIN the division.
Well let's see...
1. Ed Reed
2. Cary Williams suspended
3. 10 Ravens going on PUP at least for camp (7 from defense, and 5 of those from the secondary)
4. Kindle
5. Negativity from multiple players about the Bulger signing
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 27, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
1. both of their backup safeties could probably start for you. roy williams, seriously? this isn’t 2002 anymore, safeties have to cover, ya know?
2. cary “very important” williams
3. how many of those are starters or projected starters?
4. wasn’t going to get more than spot playing time anyway
5. fuck off
by klompus on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Couldn’t agree more.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you ever hear of Cary Williams before he got suspended? Exactly. That is the equivalent of me bringing up your 5th DB and saying it is a reason your team will suck this year.
I know Right?
That’s like saying, Jalen Parmele has a hang-nail so we will go 0-16
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Falling apart.
Hmmmm….
Baltimore Warrior, if a Bungles fan lets you know your team is falling apart, you should take him seriously.
After all, who would know better than a Bungles fan?
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Teams with Better receivers than the Ravens in no particular order (and I’m not even going to include the Bengals since you won’t agree with me on that no matter what):
- - Saints
- - Colts
- - Vikings
- - Jets
- - Eagles
- - Cowboys
- - Texans
- - Packers
- - Patriots
- 10 – Chargers (with V. Jackson)
On a side note, the “LOL” gets a little tiresome when we all know that you’re not actually laughing.
This is our year!
MaLor thinks everyone that isn't a Raven or a Raven's fan id poo-poo
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
No, just you. Get a grip dude, you really let us shove something up there over an internet argument about football? Wow man…
He acts like he went through some traumatic experience with ravens and resents them now or something like that. It sounds like some shitty Movie….
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I respect your team just not your trolling smack.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Texans only have 1 good receiver
Saints are all overrated.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that one player is a superstud that most of us would give up two of our receivers to have on our teams.
This is our year!
He wasn't a problem for us in '08
when we beat them 41-13
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
How can the SB champs be overrated?
Especially with the Offensive Numbers they put up? Give me the STATS to back that up!
On a side note, the "LOL" gets a little tiresome when we all know that you’re not actually laughing.
It’s called sarcasm.
"Modesty goes a long way, but confidence goes farther" -Me
by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
On a side note, the "LOL" gets a little tiresome when we all know that you’re not actually laughing.
Or…
“On a side note, the Bungles get a little tiresome when we all know they’re not actually very good.”
Cue up the tired “But we swept you last year…we swept the AFC North…we swept the whole league…we swept the CFL and WNBA too…we made it you didn’t…we are amazing…we have the best WR’s, DB’s, RB, QB, Def Coordinator in the history of all sports, not just football! We RULE baby!”
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Nope
The only player that the Ravens have the Bengals are worried about is Ray Rice. Other than him we’re going to dominate you this year
Ooook
You keep saying that.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
we dominated you last year....unless you have stats that say we didn't sweep you or the rest of the division
what has changed? We got better, you got older and more injured….and honestly don’t try and say that you really truly believe your WR’s are better than ours….or your Corners for that matter….i’m more of a homer than most, but when your wrong your wrong and you have to admit it, unless you like getting people riled up with your tough typed words (which is probably most accurate) stop thumb thuggin’ and go back to your blog where everybody thinks you know what you’re talking about
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
Stat's?
30 years of inconsisent back to back winning seasons. DO you honestly think you are going to sweep the division this year?
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
even if we don't sweep we'll still take the AFCN crown again
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
dez briscoe will take that 6th spot cuz they won’t wanna lose him…. just sayin
3 yards and a pile of dust
You think you guys will keep 6 WRs?
That would make up about 1/8 of your roster, theirs no way thats happening. 4 maybe 5.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
we’ll keep 6….take it to the bank
sorry for the double post….can’t contain myself
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
and as for Best EVER
no way….just being honest….let’s wait and see how it actually shakes down before crowning that one…they might not be the best in the league let alone EVER…specially w/our focus on the running game (which just got way better too)
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
Besides Bernard Scott developing, how did the running game get way better?
My dumb ass is probably missing some big signing or something but I can’t think of anything.
Or are you talking about how TO provides a threat down the field, opening up the run?
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
ANDRE SMITH
Andre will be a starter this year….i can’t believe i’m suprised you overlooked that but wow….oh yeah, and we’ll get back one of the best blocking TE’s in the league in Reggie Kelly…..
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
respect the WR
you know how defenses have to respect WR w/appropriate coverage? it’s something they do on every football team from gradeschool to the pro’s….w/Ocho, T.O. on opposite sides that means there will be more running lanes opened up….you tard
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
You have way to many other positions that need depth, there’s no way.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
They’ll keep six and that’s that. We had 4 halfbacks and 2 fullbacks at the end of last year. Why is 6 receivers such a stretch?
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"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
I'll let MaLoR explain this one for you.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
WR don’t take nearly the beating that Backs take, so keeping 4 is smart. The Ravens had 5 halfbacks and a full back last year on the roster. I wouldn’t say 6 WR is a stretch, but go ahead and run through your roster picking your final 53 including 6 WR and you will most likely get to a point where you feel that Caldwell, Jones, or Simpson just has to go.
Yes, and any of the three would make the Ravens team
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Yeah Practice squad.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Clayton is a 500-600 yd WR in his prime
Pedestrian at best.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Do you guys just have to argue with everything?
If it is comparing the Ravens to the Bengals, fine, whatever. It’s all an excersize in futility anyway. But arguing about roster spots or composition? Just leave it alone!
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
MaLoR's right.
Do your homework, work through a little roster filling exercise. It’s like making a budget for your finances. You may WANT to go see three movies a month, go out drinking and dropping $45 bucks a night with your boys, or spend $10 a week at SuperCuts keeping your mullet fresh…
but somewhere along the way reality creeps in, and you have to choose some, drop others.
Being a Bungles fan, I’d put money on the mullet allowance staying.
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By the way...
If you’re going to talk shit, at least use apostrophes.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
I did
Are you blind or something?
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
That’s kind of weak that the best thing you can attack is someones grammar.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 27, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
GOD!!!!!
Don’t you know that he shit’s golden bars, and can turn water into wine?! Don’t miss a comma our you will get struck down by holy lightning.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
we’ll keep 6…take it to the bank
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
If your team doesn't switch from a run first philosophy
I can see T.eam O.bliterator starting to run his cakehole about not being targeted enough.
You guys now have the top two premier princess WR’s in the league. Selfish and mouthy.
Good luck with that (not really).
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
I like that nickname
But he is always fine his first year. He saves it until the offseason to start running his mouth. As for Ocho, I just don’t think you get him. He doesn’t really break up chemistry, just pisses other fans off.
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
Wow this signing sure has generated alot of fear,
otherwise the hate wouldn’t be so abundant.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 27, 2010 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
That was awesome
and like clockwork, there they are^
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
Fear of a team that hasn’t put together back to back winning seasons in about 30 years? Yep, you got us.
"We hear what you are saying, but know what you are thinking"
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Your argument is wearing thin
Guess we should tell the Saints to give back their superbowl, they sucked for too long and were inconsistent at best recently.
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
While they have been inconsistent winning playoff games in the last few seasons, you guys have not sniffed that area for as long as I have been alive. Biggggggg difference bud.
And the one time they get their, they lose. That’s classic.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow this signing sure has generated alot of fear,
otherwise the hate wouldn’t be so abundant.
Oh, it’s not fear.
We just mostly hate TO, and are actually excited he went to the Bungholes. It’s perfect!!
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Time will tell
But I doubt that they’ll be as productive as Chad/TJ/Slim of 2005.
Agreed
This WR corps is built for the present and the future. It has gone from a major concern to a major strength. But to say that it’s the best 1. Bengals WR corps, 2. WR group in the league or 3. the best ever is going way over the top. Who knows what will play out, but crowning them anything right now is nuts. This is an experiment, and it looks good, but we’ll see how it plays out.
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
Why are you harping on this?
Chad and TO are the now. There are 4 young receivers who have potential, not named Chad, Antonio or Terrell. That would be the talk of a raving lunatic. You guys coming here and posting the amount of crap that you have are the actions of trolls. You can’t rain on this parade, it’s gonna be a good year in Cincy. Get over it.
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
Antonio Bryants bounced around and done crap in this league.
I seriously do not see what you see in the guy.
Explain this fixation to me, and try to talk me into thinking he won’t be pushed out by one of the younger WR’s in camp.
Dude flat out sucks.
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go watch a few highlights of AB
He’s better than every reciever you have other than Boldin….you say he lacks consistency….he’s had a diff offensive coordinator almost every single year in the league and has had a different quarter back literally every year (out of all of them Garcia was the best arm ever throwing to him)……
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
I said nothing about Bryant being good. Whether I think he is or not has nothing to do with what I wrote. The poster questioned why I thought the receivers were built for the future. I think that the names I stated are older, while 4 others are younger and there is a possibility that 1 or 2 could prove to be valuable. Thanks for jumping in here and proving that the Steelers still have enough dicks roaming the internet to compete with anyone.
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
all your potential is just that, potential. you haven’t even seen anything on the field to suggest anyone on your roster can step up and replace chad or TO
They don't need to
Not this year. I realize they are just potential. They don’t need to be much more than that. However the odds of one or two of them out of the four becoming a legitimate starter is much better than the odds of one guy that the team is counting on to do it.
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
Agreed
Not the best in Franchise History, at this point. Doesn’t mean by the end of the season we won’t have a different view. I doubt too many people had the 05 team pegged as one of the best receiving corps of all time.
Actually no
I think the Browns have them on that one.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
This says it all
These guys are just trying to piss off the board. I had respect for you BW, coming over a few months ago and being level headed and hearing what everyone had to say about the team. You even brought it back and posted it in what I thought was a very good summary. Of course the posters took their shots, but they wouldn’t be fans if they didn’t. But you pretty much just lost nearly all the credit I had given you.
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
The Browns have Mocccchamed Massacre-oi.
That alone puts the Stains above the Prison Stripes.
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Aight
I’ll retire from this crap with you. Warrrior. Out.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
WARRIOR OUT. THATS SOME SICK LINGO MAN.
I CANT WAIT TO CREAM YOU
by anderk8 on Jul 28, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry man, I don’t swing that way.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, I was making fun of Ryan Seacrest, but OK
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He must have been using some old spice lately….
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
He acts like he went through some traumatic experience with ravens and resents them now or something like that. It sounds like some shitty Movie….
That is what you all are acting like coming on here with these comments. If you didn’t consider us a threat, you wouldn’t care and you wouldn’t be here.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 28, 2010 12:57 AM EDT reply actions
You don't know?
Me and MaLoR like to fuck with people to get a tiny knee-jerk reaction. You guys on the other hand had more of a place-kick reaction. BTW Reply: Fail
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
As I said earlier...
oh and…
cue the denials
BTW Warrior: Fail
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 28, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Great comeback.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Flag this
He just basically admitted to trolling
It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.
Mommy!!!! Billy hit Sarah!!
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No, What I was doing was barely trolling. You guys just overreacted to my opinions. There’s a difference.
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by Zachary Beard on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
whoever posted this was obviously trolling. all they wanted to do was get a ton of responses and cause controversy. i mean, that’s more believable than thinking anyone actually believes this retirement home of a WR corps is the best ever
Guys, we'
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
Sorry, my computer is being stupid.
Anyways, I was abou to say we’re not going to convince these trolls of anything. We’re just going to have to let the Bengals themselves convince them. Keep in mind that we get the Ravens twice this year. We’ll find out then who the better team is.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
exactly why they have been the only ones to comment for some time now
we’re finished with the trolls
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 28, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, look at 2005 and 2007
Year / Site / Result
2003 Cincinnati W, 34-26
Baltimore L, 13-312004 Cincinnati L, 9-23
Baltimore W, 27-262005 Baltimore W, 21-9
Cincinnati W, 42-292006 Baltimore L, 20-26
Cincinnati W, 13-72007 Cincinnati W, 27-20
Baltimore W, 21-72008 Baltimore L, 10-17
Cincinnati L, 3-342009 Baltimore W, 17-14
Cincinnati W, 17-7
Since Marvin Lewis has been the Bengals HC, the Bengals have swept the Ravens in the division 3 times and the Ravens have done it to the Bengals once… in 2008. Overall the Ravens lead the series 15 – 13, but since Marvin Lewis has been the coach it goes the other way with the Bengals leading 9 – 5.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 29, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Shipley
Jordan Shipley will make Antonio Bryant irrelevant very quickly.
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