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Striped Surprise: How The Playbook Should Be Different This Year

As of now, the vast majority of the NFL is on vacation. It's practically a year-round season these days and what good is making boatloads of money if one can't pop off to someplace quiet and tropical for a few weeks?

 

Yet when they return, they face arguably the most crucial month of them all: training camp. Obviously the stretch of 16 games on a team's schedule is of paramount importance, but it's at training camp that schemes are hatched and player roles are defined. Some adjustments are made on the fly once the season-opening kickoff gets underway, but for the most part, all the schematics, all the hammering home of fundamentals, the general approach to the game, is sorted out during this time.

 

I listened to the venerable Rod Woodson speak about how divisions are won differently each year, and the logic of such a philosophy rang out to me. The Bengals ran roughshod over the AFC North last year with a bruising method of power running and containment defense. They had a different feel than we Bengal fans had grown accustomed, and I believe the shift in style surprised teams enough—especially early on—to land Cincinnati in the playoffs.

 

The problem with such a rudimentary approach, of course, is that it's easily learned by the opposition. As much as we all may like to think that our team is physically superior that needs no disguise in its attack, NFL players are separated by the smallest of measurements—almost mass produced, like robots—and the Bengals are just another legion within those ranks. Once the league did master the Cincinnati game plan, the adjustments were minimal, and the results, poor. It wasn't the element of strength that aided them in their playoff run, it was the element of surprise, and it's up to the coaching staff to unearth that element again, but this time in a different way.

Star-divide

Before we allow our inventive right-brain to begin concocting wild offensive formations and play-calling that is laden with flea-flickers and statue-of-liberty plays, let's scale ourselves back with the forced levity that the mere mention of Bob Bratkowski's name invokes.

 

Brat, as we know, is a man of the script. He has ideas of how the offense should operate, he writes his ideas down on paper, he gets into his little booth on Sundays, he reads his ideas into a microphone in the booth which transmits them into Carson Palmer's helmet, and the ideas come to life. When we as fans watch this last stage unfold we think, "Ah, I know these ideas," and you can bet the opposition does too. Yet it doesn't matter to Bratkowski. He gets paid to write a script, and going off script is to admit the failure of his ideas, and that's not in his interest, even if it's in the team's.

 

In some fairness, we don't really know the pressures that Brat faces as an offensive coordinator. Perhaps Marvin limits the scope of Brat's play-calling, perhaps Mike Brown threatens him regularly to keep him on his toes, or, perhaps some players are just difficult to coach sometimes. The reality, though, is none of that should matter—it's productivity or else—yet he has grown so comfortable in his office chair despite his up and down tenure in Cincinnati, the seat has conformed to his ass.

 

Therefore, since he is here and is still carrying around the same script from last year, the most we can hope for are additional scribblings on those wrinkled and coffee-stained notes.

 

If he runs the same offense as last year with no change to adapt to the new personnel, I will lose my mind. I like the power-run game, and there is no reason not to pound teams with it, but the model used last year was a yellow, plastic kids toy version of a running offense. It needed to be elaborated and expanded during the second half of last season, but remained in its playschool form to the bitter end. What I'm not doing is calling for a spread out, high-flying vertical-pass offense. Instead, I want a beefed up playbook that stays true to the Bengals' strengths but has major variations of styles within it; like a chicken cookbook.

 

To play an effective power-run offense, a team needs some unique characters.

 

We know they have a complimentary backfield that can be used in a wide range of ways, and an offensive line that looks comfortable mauling and road-grading and all the other big-guy adjectives that spring to mind when considering offensive linemen and their ability to run block. We also widely agree that Carson Palmer is not a source of major concern and, with good health, should do just fine.

 

The exciting bit, then, is the blue-chip tight end, Jermaine Gresham. Here is a mismatch to nearly any defense when thrown to, and with Kelly's tutelage on the finer points of blocking, it is hopeful that he will ease any concerns shared on that front as well. Other teams, including both Super Bowl teams, have demonstrated how back-breaking a dangerous tight end can be, and the Bengals haven't employed such an athlete as Gresham within the Marvin Lewis era.

 

Brat must use this thoroughbred not only on shorter crossing patterns and even screens, but especially on deeper routes down field. I expect Gresham to become a key safety valve when Palmer is flushed from the pocket, and he also has all the makings for a terrific red-zone target. He is large, can jump, has quality hands and can separate from defenders. Although he is unproven, and there is plenty of talent elsewhere amongst the ranks of receivers on this team, I think Gresham has the potential to become the focus of the offense this year. If his vast upside materializes, the other receivers will find their jobs easier and the whole offense is happier. One can only hope.

 

Another nice compliment to a good tight end within the run offense, is the big possession receiver. Let's bring in Antonio Bryant. Mr. Bryant has a muscular frame, has caught a lot of passes, and plays with a temper—which can be good (see: Houshmandzedah, T.J.). Without seeing much of him these past few years, I can't speak much of his hands, but I do know that he is a difficult receiver to tackle and a possession-offense loves them some Yards After Catch.

 

After the Laveranues Coles experiment blew up their face, the Bengals looked at the other end of the receiver spectrum and picked out a guy with lead-pipe arms and a snarl; the extra size and the attitude should help on crossing routes and keep him from fumbling—a big problem for Bengal receivers last season. If Bryant finds himself covered by a particularly smallish corner, Brat would be wise to take a shot on a deep throw to him in hopes of Antonio overpowering the defender. He can also be effectively used on receiver bubble screens, and should be a decent blocker on the outside too.

 

The new faces create new opportunities for Brat. The beleaguered offensive coordinator has been well insulated with excuses over the years—not having enough firepower was last season's—but he has all the materials at his disposal this time around. During this year’s training camp, the hope is that the offense, including Bratkowski himself, is ready to take on more information to push the playbook further. There is no need to remove the shovel pass to Brian Leonard, or all the magical footwork of Chad Ochocinco along the sidelines or inside the end-zones, or the screen-pass to Bernard Scott, or the off-tackle power run with Benson, but we need to see more than that this season.

 

No matter how a team surprises the league, the league will always eventually figure it out and stop whatever surprised them the first time. The same old recipe as last year simply won't do. Coaches are too smart to remain stagnant. One must constantly evolve or become another forgotten casualty of natural selection. What mutation the Bengals will experience this training camp weighs heavily on the minds of the team's followers. As always, stay tuned.

 

 

Mojokong—again with those damned finches! Who cares about finches?

 

 

 

 



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Although I agree with the

overall concept of your post I don’t think that the Bengals offense needs to be overhauled. They experienced success last year being a run first team and they should continue with that strategy. Brat was limited last year by the personnel available in the passing game. Coles wasn’t productive, Henry died, the young guys couldn’t fill the gap and we had tackles playing tight end! From what I have read it seems there are going to be a lot of new wrinkles to the passing game, better personnel on the field (Shipley, Bryant, Gresham, etc.) makes that possible. The offensive line should be better, assuming Andre the Giant’s feet don’t fail him. This team could be scary good on both sides of the ball and I can’t wait for the season to start.

by Tommyboy45 on Jul 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

To Brat's defense...

I think his “scripts” are laid out to what are the strengths, or perceived strengths, of his offensive personnel. Last year, he had a dinged up QB coming off of a major elbow injury, and an unproven O-Line who he knew could run block, but was unsure of their pass blocking abilities—something that probably freaked EVERYBODY out due to the situation with Palmer. There was a TON of griping when the Bengals drafted Gresham, because everybody was screaming that “Brat doesn’t know how to use a TE!”. Well, he’s never had a guy of Gresham’s talent. The Bengals offense from 2004-2007 had three EXCELLENT pass protectors in Levi, Steinbach and Braham, as well as 3 EXCELLENT WRs in Chad, TJ and Henry and that’s when Brat used the aerial attack as that’s what the offense’s strength was.

Now, in 2010, the big question (as this article points out) is what adjustments will Brat make due to the new personnel, if any. He has said that he’ll find ways to get Gresham involved and one would hope that a younger, more physical WR in Bryant will also help. Along with that, the “unproven” guys on the line have a year’s experience now, so hopefully they’ll be able to grasp more pass protection schemes. My concern is that Brat gets stubborn with his playcalling at times and will stick with something until it works, even if it hasn’t all game. This year, the no-huddle and more two TE sets with Coffman and Gresham (particularly in the red zone) need to be used. This article is spot-on with it’s assessment that this team won’t go anywhere in 2010 if they don’t mix it up at least a little bit. Let’s hope Brat is smart enough to do so—jury is still out on that one.

by Anthony Cosenza on Jul 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

RE:

It seemed to me last year Brat had a major lack of confidence in his talent.. He was not willing to risk anything for reward..

by JamesShively on Jul 8, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

And the number of dropped passes by Coles is evidence that Brat may have had confidence at first, and then lost it. He and Palmer felt late in the season that only Chad and Ced were worth a lot of touches.

by Pardon_My_French on Jul 8, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to see

more no huddle, play actions, and maybe some more 3-4 wide sets!

by TCfromDubVee on Jul 8, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I would like to see...

Gresham! The more I think about it, the more I realize that Gresham could totally change our offense. Think about it. Its not just the slot guy teams have to worry about across the middle… now they have to be mindful of the TE as well. That should open up the field big time for Ocho and Bryant on the outside.

Also, in line with Mojo’s comments, think of how much more versatile our “Jumbo” packages are if we have Gresham and Kelly in blocking instead of Roland and He Who Shall not be Named Because I Can’t Bear to Think of the Drops Anymore Coats (OH whoops, I named him). Think play action with an actual threat to catch (and run)! Novel concept I know…

by The Dealio on Jul 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Gresham packages

I don’t think we need Gresham packages. Carson will get the ball to the open reciever. If there are no open recievers he throws to Chad. If Gresham is open, Carson will get the ball to him. Late in the season last year, after we lost slim, I think Carson lost trust in every reciever but Chad. Early, he spread the ball, but late he forced the ball. This year he should have more trust in his other recievers and we could see more games like Chicago.

On the other hand imagine the goal line set with Kelly, Gresham and Coffman. Teams will bring in huge packages to stop Benson and that will leave Coffman and Gresham facing one-on-one coverage to the outside. Awsome baby! (to quote DIck Vitale)

by jim0ijk on Jul 8, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My old basketball coach

I never played football, but I think some similar logic can apply. here. My coach told me that in basketball all you needed for success was 1) a go-to move, and 2) a counter move. Last year we had one move, which was our power running game, and were never able to complement it with a counter move (i.e. the play action). Defenses just had to bet on our running game, and never had to consider the passing game at all.. Our two TE sets were painfully easy to guard against because TEs didn’t warrant any attention at all – The couldn’t catch and they were slow as “Speed 3 Glacier of Doom.”

I don’t think we need to recomplicate the playbook, I think we need to make the play action more effective by utilizing our catching TEs more (Gresham and Coffman).

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jul 8, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Playoffs!? Did somebody say playoffs?

With the possible suspension of Benson and the Ravens defense much better this year and their offense able to match point to point with the Colts or Saints, this year looks a little bleak for the Bengals. You will have to hope for a poor showing from the Jets, Dolphins, and Texans just to get a wild card spot. Even with all the turmoil in the Chargers camp, they and the Colts will probably win their division. The Ravens are so deep in every position they will crush everyone they play. All I can say for the Bengals players is keep the fridge stocked for watching the playoffs.

by Punt on Jul 8, 2010 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Did we lose our thesaurus guys?

I expected at least a couple of intelligent sentences and friendly banter, not name calling in code. You’re starting to make me feel like I’m in a Steeler thread here. Hit me with your best Bengal shot why you think they will make the playoffs.

by Punt on Jul 8, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year

The Ravens’ offense only had two touchdowns against the Bengals in two games. 14 points. And what were Flacco’s numbers last year in the playoffs? 200 yards and 3 INTs in two games? I know you’re in love with Anquan, but let’s temper your “offense able to match point to point with the Colts or Saints.” We’ll see what’s up again this year soon enough.

(And yes, the Bengals had no passing game last year – true. Doesn’t change the fact that a 5-yard dumpoff to Ray Rice counts for half of Flacco’s success.)

Also, I’d take a second look at their secondary, which was particularly problematic in the 4th quarter against the Bengals last year.

Crush everyone they’ll play? Come on, now.

by nashville_chris on Jul 8, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No passing

You’re right, Flacco had only Mason who was double covered most of the time. Kelly Washington made some great third down catches, but you never saw him the rest of the game. Towards the end of the season Flacco was hurting, that’s why he didn’t pass much in the Patriots playoff game. I thought they should have passed more against the Colts, Cam doesn’t thrill me running the offense. Stallworth is going to open up the field for the passing lanes. They picked up two tight ends who are probably good enough to start, which will make Heap a lot better this year. I think they plugged their DB holes good enough until the starters heal from their wounds. I always like Bulger, but his real talent was never visible playing for a team like the Rams. Suggs is supposed to come back healthy in good shape(this we will have to see) and Kindle is a good back up behind Jarrett Johnson. The defensive line will eat up at least three OL which will let the LB’s run free after the RBs. On paper this defense has the ability to rival the 2000 team with the ability to score points on offense. I think the season opener against the Jets will be the litmus test.

by Punt on Jul 8, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-2 FOR THE RAVENS

YOU BE 0-2 AFTER WEEK 2. HOW IS KINDLE A GOOD BACK UP? WHAT NFL TEAM HAS HE PLAYED AGAINST? SUGGS SHOWED UP TO ANY TRAINING CAMPS YET? HOW DO YOU PASS AGANIST A TEAM LIKE THE BENGALS? CBS THAT MOST TEAMS DREAM OF. A ODOM , JOHNSON DRIVING YOUR QB INTO THE GROUND. RICE GETTING CRUSHED BY MALUGA , RIVERS PEKO AND TANK. OR MAYBE ROY WILLIAMS LAYS A HORSE COLLAR ON HIM.

I CAN’T WAIT FOR THE SEASON TO START.

by jampull1 on Jul 8, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since when was Mason always Double Covered?

The point is that Mason isn’t really good enough to warrant double coverage. Adding Anquan is huge. He was big for you guys, but lets not get delusional up in here, You’re not the Saints or Colts. The best case that you make against us not making the playoffs is that we have a tougher schedule than you. Simply put, we were better than you last year, and we matched you move for move in the offseason. We’re still better.

by The Dealio on Jul 8, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rookies / New additions / "On Paper"

I think both the Bengals and Ravens fans need to temper their expectations a tad before declaring their new additions immediate saviors. Jermaine Gresham looks like a beast, Jordan Shipley looks good, Michael Johnson at LB is definitely exciting… but the pads haven’t been on yet, so what do we really know?

Ravens fans ought to probably think about their additions the same way. Who knows how Kindle will play against an NFL O-Line, or if Donte Stallworth will be any better of a player than he has in the past. Boldin is proven, but playing in a wide-open system with a gunslinger in Kurt Warner.

I’ll be happy if we split 1-1 with the Ravens, but seeing how both teams improved on paper this year, I can see either team sweeping the other… of course everyone is on the preseason Ravens’ bandwagon given the Bengals late-season collapse… I’ll chalk it up to injuries, but who knows. The Bengals can be better this year and still manage to lose more games.

But damn I’m excited.

by nashville_chris on Jul 8, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was way too balanced and fair…. :)

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about,

talking about how the Ratbirds won’t make the playoffs… Or is that too disturbing for you to talk about? It’s not for us.

by WHYUS!! on Jul 8, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you confused

because there defense is just getting old. They are in no way even close to having the formidable offense of the colts and saints and they definately will not " crush everyone they play". You just come off sounding like a ravens fan come to run there mouth with no respect. They are no deeper than we are, probably less so in some positions, and made no improvements we didnt match with equal talent. Every year there are teams that the experts are dead wrong on, and not to say they will be bad, but too many people are already claiming them the next world champ when training camp hasnt even started. Perhaps you should not take James Walker’s opinions as facts and be a little more objective. We are the reigning AFC North Champs, they have to come take it from us, not just be declared it by pundits. The proof is in the pudding, not the words on the box, so lets see when the season is here.

by gtthompson1 on Jul 8, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the media and opposing fans want to discount the Bengals, let them.

The Bengals pulled out the metaphoric broom and swept a division that included the Steelers AND the Ravens last year. They did it after most analysts projected them as ending up 3rd or worse in their own division. Mouths talk and talk is cheap. The Bengals adopted a workman philosophy and ground out the season under the radar. When training camp comes around, they will go back to work and try to build on what they have started. No one team is owed anything in this league. You have to work for it. Earn it. Own it. Respect every team as a true competitor… even the Browns. Both the Ravens and the Bengals seem poised to fight for the division. However, what it very possibly could come down to is depth. The Bengals may not have had the Probowlers other teams had, but they still had enough firepower as a team to win 10 games. They can count them out again if they want to, but I wouldn’t.

by SnapCount80 on Jul 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aging defense?

The defense ended up #3 last year and will be even better this year. The Ravens defense is very deep, just the DBs aren’t deep with pro bowl players. The running game will be even better this year because you can’t stack the box. You stack the box and Flacco will burn you with the new receiving corp. Remember 2000, you don’t need a good offense or division title to win a super bowl.

by Punt on Jul 9, 2010 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your D is still Deep

and very good, but not necessarily improved. It seems to me that most of what you added was depth, which I grant you is very important? But what have you really done to address your issuses at CB or in the secondary? What happens to your secondary when/if Ed Reed gets hurt again? To be honest, I really don’t think your D is better, just deeper

by The Dealio on Jul 9, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

PUNT PLS...........

YOUR TEAM IS OVER RATED. AN AGING DEFENSE THAT CANT STOP THE RUN AGAINST GOOD TEAMS. a OVERRATED QB, (YEAH I’LL SAY IT). AND STILL HAV MEDIOCRE CBS.
THE RAVENS ARE THE WHINIEST BUNCH OF USSIES . I REMEMBER RAY LEWIS ON NFL NETWORK ON GAME DAY OF THE 2ND BENGALS GAME TALKING HOW THE BENGALS WEREN’T GOING TO DO THEM AGAIN.NOT IN HIS HOUSE.. OH YEAH U GUYS GOT SMOKED. 2010 NEW YEAR SAME RESULTS. TIME FOR YOU TO PUNT

by jampull1 on Jul 8, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playoff wins

How many playoff wins have you had the past two years? You do realize you have to win them before you get to the big dance. An aging defense? We have 4 older players in Kelly Gregg Trevor Pryce who will share time with younger players. Then there are pro bowlers Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, who would also be starting for the Bengals if you had them. Our overrated quarterback has three playoff victories his first two years, and still has ten good years of playing time left. Talk about getting smoked, by a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach, TWICE! You will probably be missing Cedric(I coulda been a contender)Benson when we play the first time. I think Cedric misunderstood tiger stripes for prison stripes.

by Punt on Jul 9, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny as a Ravens fan that you name yourself "Punt"

as that’s all that the Raven’s “Offense” has led the team to do for the past 10 years.

by Anthony Cosenza on Jul 9, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you say Lombardi Trophy

We do have one in our closet, and it wasn’t because of steroids or referees help. As John Houseman used to say," they earned it the old fashioned way".

by Punt on Jul 9, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you won a sb 10 yrs. ago congrats..

You are entitled to your opinions, but I just don’y see it. Flacco has won gmes in the playoffs, but it wasnt like he is Joe Montana.and the games you lost he played aweful.

Funny , People always say Palmer hasn’t won a playoff game, Imean he played one series in the steelers game in 05’.In the Jets game he would of had chance to win if Shane "i choke on a " Grahamn cracker missed all the field gals. Btw have fun with him……

by jampull1 on Jul 9, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Cool

You gotta remember one thing, the only dependable receiver Flacco had was Mason, and he is 36 yrs old. If Flacco had the receivers Montana and Palmer had he would have been in the super bowl. The reason he looked bad in the Patriot and Colts game was he was hurt. The offensive line can only protect so long when you have one legitimate receiver. You can only dump off to Ray Rice so many times. Joe Flacco only started 22 games in a division II college. His first year he wasn’t even prepared to be a starter. He was slated to be a third string quarterback until injuries and illness forced him to be a starter.

by Punt on Jul 10, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

why make excuses

If Flacco is so good why make excuses. Noone makes excuses for palmer when he lays the ball in the hand of coats, coles or foshi and they drop them. Granted, you have some playof f wins. but your were third loser 2 yrs ago. And you beat a welkerless pats team. We got punished for playing not to lose to the jets 1st game. Mgmt. thought the Jets they were a better match up htan houston. They could of been right if Shane grahamn didnt miss his fieldgoal attempts btw goos luck with that aquistion.

by jampull1 on Jul 11, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

No excuses, just fact

First off, unless you are five years old, get a dictionary and learn minimal punctuation. Use capital letters for your players names, I have at least that much respect for them. I’d give my left nut to have Marino for a quarterback, but he only made it to the big dance once. It could not have always been his fault. The Jets were pumped for that game, and your guys just ran out of gas. They also beat the Chargers who had a more potent offense than the Bengals. If they had a better offense they would have beaten the Colts.

by Punt on Jul 11, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you must attack my puncuation

then really you must be pretty much at a loss. NoW thAt I underStand it bodders u. I Noticed I ve menttioned Shaney Grahamn 3 times yet U say Nothing about him. Also Flacco is an over ratd QB . Better than Boller but Nothing special. GL in 10’ but reality will set in after week 7. Hopes will be dashed for you a RaVeNs Fang

by jampull1 on Jul 12, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eliminating penalties

will go a long way. We stopped a lot of drives ourselves last year.

But we still have to find the endzone. I’m not convinced that the passing game can open up, at least early in the season.

It takes time for a QB to get comfortable with his WR/TE corp. If (big if) we open with Bryant, Shipley and Gresham. There’s going to be one big a learning curve for everyone no matter how talented they may be.

The only one Palmer will have gamed with is Ocho. And that’s when we’re really going to miss Slim.

by StLBengal on Jul 8, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

definitely

Hopefully a gelled offensive line will eliminate this. We know this offense, when clicking, can light up the scoreboard – Chicago last year, for example. This post is probably a little harsh on Brat, who is everyone’s favorite whipping boy when the offense struggles. He took a shaky O-line, an hobbled QB and one WR and made an efficient offense, that, when it eliminated mistakes, grinded games out and finished them well. Why risk anything else with a defense this freaking good?

This year should be different. We have the technology. In Brat I trust. Sort of.

by nashville_chris on Jul 8, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand

Perhaps “took” was the wrong word :) “had”? He had a shaky O-line, hobbled QB and one WR. (+ Rookie running back and running back off the street).

Just sayin’, he may not be perfect (No, definitely isn’t), but not sure he was the reason the offense struggled at times last year.

by nashville_chris on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again, this whole fair and balanced opinion is just wierding me out. Aren’t we all supposed to be uber opinionated about everything, and blame one person for the struggles of an entire organization? :)

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jul 9, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caldwell? Cosby? Simpson?

We do not know who will be on offense yet, but if a rookie finds himself high enough on the depth chart, they will have to get over that curve real quick.

I do agree with eliminating the penalties. Before we lost Slim we were one of the best at finding the endzone. Hopefully Brat will use his brain and realize that the four pieces of paper he has in front of him, with the four plays he has carefully designed also have backsides.. where upon he can concoct four more plays. (two of which are reserved for run audibles in the opposite direction)

by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Jul 8, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree

dealio – you share my sentiments. think how often our te’s were open last season! if we have a guy that can catch in that position we could go undefeated.

WHo DEy 16-0!

by Alex Kuhns on Jul 9, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I am right there with both of you. We really lacked the one-two punch last year of the killer running game, and the play action in our 2 TE sets. If we put in Gresham/Coffman/Kelly who are all capable of catching the ball, then we are going to be a lot more dangerous.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bottom line is......

Thay are not plainly better than us anywhere.

 Some say their Oline is better. Look at the NFL stats from last year. The revamped, only 1 player returning Oline is 11th and the Ravens is 20th. The Steelers 27th.

Some say their LBs are better – if so only slightly if at all.

Some say at safety. I Reed comes back full strength I would agree but he may miss a significant part of the season. Without him @ 100% we are as good.

Some say QB – LOL

Some say RB – as a group they are a wash. Rice is great but so is Benson – look at the numbers. Our backups are better.

Some say Boldin is better than Bryant – maybe he is – slightly. Boldin is your #1 and Bryant is our #2

Some say with Cody and Ngata they will dominate the LOS. They clog the middle but make them run and they are just average and sucking wind.

Their Corners aren’t in the same league with the Bengals – not even close. They need to double cover WRs our guys can handle 1 on 1.

Heap is over. We got the stud TE and they got the scraps we didn’t want.

The bottom line is the Ravens and Bengals are very close in talent. They have similar teams with the exception of Corner where we have what many call the best tandem in the league. You can run on us. We can run on you. Our Corners can cover your WRs 1 on 1 and you will have to double both Chad and Bryant. I say advantage Bengals. But it does not matter what I, you or the media says.

We are not scared of Baltimore. When you walk on the field you won’t have any trouble finding us. We will be on the other side of the field waiting for the kickoff. Then you will have to shut up and play. I think you are in for a real disappointment and an eye opening experience. Man I can’t wait to shut these Ravens fans up. It is going to be fun.

We are comparable in every position group

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Jul 9, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Where do I start

Let me see, our offensive line is young except at center. They have four legitimate pro bowl players, but we all know they won’t get picked from the same team. Our linebackers will match with any in the league, and are very deep. The safeties might be even now, but we just picked up a pro bowl safety to fill in for Reed. Joe Flacco has done more with much less, so he gets the edge. The Ravens have the best three headed monster at running back in the league. Both Rice and McClain made the pro bowl last year and McGahee in 2007. All three would be starters on another team. Receivers might be a wash, except for tight ends. We have three that I think will surprise many teams this year. You may have the one the media said was the best, but we have two that our scouts said were the best. Our cornerbacks will be just fine this year. A good front seven makes corners jobs a lot easier. Ngata is a pro bowl lineman, some say he’s not even human. Cody at Alabama kept all opponents under 100yds rushing. He’s in better shape now and nobody will run on us this year. Just hope the warden lets Benson out on work release.

by Punt on Jul 10, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, so all of this isn’t to say that I think the Ravens are bad. I’m just trying to put an end to the BS that they’ve suddenly become better than the Bengals this offseason. Both teams are talented and both teams have a shot at taking the division title this year.

O Line: The Bengals gave up 29 sacks last year, the Ravens gave up 36. The Birds didn’t draft any lineman before the 6th (like us) and we’re getting Andre Smith back (healthy and in shape) who basically red shirted his frosh season.

Linebackers: Our linebackers will match with any in the league and are also very deep. Don’t be fooled by the draft, Muckelroy isn’t our only new linebacker this year. Read up on Michael Johnson.

Pass Rush: We picked up 2 promising pass rushers in Carlos Dunlap and Geno Atkins. Oh yeah, and that guy who lead the league in sacks until he got hurt, and who we basically didn’t play with the team at all last season is going to be back…

Receiving options: Of the Ravens two rookie TEs, maybe one of them is going to see the field in a significant way (unless Heap gets injured). You guys threw away a draft pick there (maybe two) and will probably regret it later. The Bengals picked up the best TE in the draft (Gresham) and the best slot receiver in the draft (Shipley). Also, I’d take Chad and Bryant over Boldin and Mason any day of the week.

DBs: The Ravens CBs aren’t magically going to get better this year, no matter how much you convince yourself of that. Especially not with teams like the Texans, and the Patriots on their schedule. The Bengals picked up Adam Jones and drafted Brandon Ghee to beef up our 6th ranked passing defense.

So all that crap that the Ravens are going to breeze through the division this year, and are they clear favorites to win the AFC North is complete hype. The Bengals are looking just as good if not better for another title run.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jul 10, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

shhhh

They’re not supposed to know about giiraffe

by quickslant on Jul 10, 2010 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Playoff run

You talk about sacks but forget we only had one legit receiver who was quite often double covered and 35 years old. We also lost our starting left tackle for about six games, and he was never 100% when he came back. Flacco had over 30 more pass attempts with one less interception. He’s learned to eat the ball rather than throw an interception. I would take Boldin and Stallworth over Ohno and Bryant. We don’t have any head cases at receiver and Palmer isn’t consistent for 16 games. Our back up QB is a pro bowler who would fit right in our system if needed. Just watch our 6’5" tight ends against the little corners, first down every time. You forget how well the CBs did against the Patriots in the playoffs last year, and they won’t even be the ones starting. The first game of the season will be the litmus test, us against the Jets and you against the Patriots. I think I saw someone filming your OTA’s.

by Punt on Jul 10, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The Bengals are looking just as good if not better for another title run."
You talk about sacks but forget we only had one legit receiver who was quite often double covered

We can say the same after Henry passed. Only difference here is ours is 30 instead of 35

We also lost our starting left tackle for about six games, and he was never 100% when he came back.

Again we can say the same except we lost him for most of the season.
We don’t have any head cases at receiver and Palmer isn’t consistent for 16 games.

Ocho is eccentric and as for Palmer’s consistency, we’ll have to see with his new, hopefully consistent weapons

Just thought I would point out a few items that you mentioned that could be said about both teams. And we took it last year. Granted it’s no given but contrary to popular belief, the Bengals do have just as much a chance as the Ravens this year.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Jul 10, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said Oregon

And one more thing

I would take Boldin and Stallworth over Ohno and Bryant.

That’s crazy talk, but I can’t argue with opinion. :)

As Bengals fans, we are tired of being disrespected. We have 2 division titles in the last 5 years, which I think entitles our team to a little more respect than they are getting. And while I’m no swammy, I think that I can objectively say that the Bengals improved every bit as much as the Ravens did and at least deserve to mentioned as a contender in a neck and neck race for the division.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jul 12, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crazy but true

Stallworth and Bryant are the same age, but Stallworth has less wear and tear on his body. He has had a whole year to heal any wounds he might have. Boldin is six years younger than Ocho and hasn’t had the helmet knocked off him by Ray Lewis. But in the end it all comes down to the quarterback. Age also has a determining factor throughout the year. Good luck to you guys, it should be an interesting year. I just want to see us both beat the Steelers twice.

by Punt on Jul 13, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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