Antonio Bryant Injury Settlement Rumors Resurface

WTF man... I told you so along time ago...

I can’t believe our front office is really incompetent to the point that they just hand our millions and millions to guys that may never wear stripes in a regular season game..

by JamesShively on Aug 16, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions

Shameful!

by KyleStyle11 on Aug 16, 2010 8:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Fire Dr Pokey Stick already

Jeez

by featherman on Aug 16, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions

Really.

Really.

by Doc Scratch on Aug 16, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions

If true, this is the perfect example of how Mike Brown being cheap hurts this franchise. The fact that they only have one (1) full time scout and no GM really shines through in moments like this. Lately MB has proven he’s willing to spend the money on players, unfortunately they have been the wrong players quite often, now possibly in back to back years with Coles and Bryant. And whatever doctor passed Bryant and gave the team the go ahead to sign him should be fired or never consulted with again (I don’t know if the doctors are employed by the team or simply consultants).

by MrMcLargeHuge on Aug 16, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions

Anquan Boldin or Brandon Marshall maybe?

They were both available on the market and we didn’t even entertain the idea?

by JamesShively on Aug 16, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah, let's give up a first and a third for marshall

so no gresham or shipley.

or a 3rd and 4th for boldin so no shipley and atkins.

greeatttt idea.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Aug 16, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions

on top of the 12 mill

marshall is getting. that means there’s no way they keep jjoe and leon where at least now we have a chance.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Aug 16, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Point is they didn't entertain it and gave away 7.85 million dollars for absolutely nothing...

by JamesShively on Aug 16, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions

i wasn't in the room

so i don’t know what they entertained. word on the street was they called about marshall, but i wouldn’t have given up 12 mil a year plus gresham plus shipley either.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Aug 16, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Poor Front Office

If you’re smart like the Ravens, you give up then get it back twofold.

by Punt on Aug 16, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Could have hired multiple scouts for multiple years with this money

Enough said

by Wyatt Earp on Aug 16, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions

And better doctors/trainers too.

by Jcon77 on Aug 17, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions

Blessings in disguise my restless fans

This would free up a much needed spot at WR for a guy like Briscoe.

With TO, Chad, Shipley, and Gresham at TE, Bryant would’ve been irrelevant anyway.

by jimbasa on Aug 16, 2010 8:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

You got to spend money to make money! MB took the best player at the time for the future. He isn’t panning out. There are plenty of players in the league making more guaranteed money IE rookies that may never live up to it. I’d rather see them cut there loses now on Bryant and keep a Matt Jones, Simpson, or coffman then keep someone they cant utilize this season. This is our season and MB knows that! Yeah Bryant and coles were not worth the money but that’s part of the game. New England went and got HOLT and he’s going on IR. There front office has been good for years but they know when to move on and the Bengals are not far in the past years. Just a different philosophy. They get great player at the end of there career, we get great player with troubled pasts. If we win a SB, f the 10 mill! Whatever it takes…

by Dwight Carter on Aug 16, 2010 8:24 PM EDT reply actions

And pls stop writing off Caldwell ppl. With the talent on the team he’ll become a better player in there shadows!

by Dwight Carter on Aug 16, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions

I just don't see Mikey Boy

cutting their loss just yet. I say they will IR him if anything. Make sure he is rehabbing during the season and having someone check up on him constantly to see if he’s worth keeping for next year.
But I agree with the stupidity of the FO. Mikey Boy will try and cover it up the best he can.
Mike Brown and his “Themes”. What a crackhead….

by WHYUS!! on Aug 16, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions

i don't mind this honestly

at least they’re fixing it. the bengals of old would have just let him sit on the roster and take up space and money. i honestly see him as being just a bonus this year anyway. i would like to see what he could do in the future.

and i hate mike brown, but people can’t have it both ways, they want to whine about him being cheap and then whine when he spends 7 mil, 2 years in a row to try and jumpstart the offense. make up your mind.

and that being cheap brought in dhani, adam jones, benson, crocker, tank, etc. not to mention mike johnson, dunlap, bscott because no one else would pull the trigger. sometimes you have to take the bad with the good.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Aug 16, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions

agreed.. but..

hire a gm to bounce some of those ideas off of and you get a lot more good than bad.

by Cry on Aug 16, 2010 11:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Brandone

I agree completely.

by SnapCount80 on Aug 17, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Unless they're certain he's going to be affected long-term, I'd rather see him on IR.

That said, at least it looks like they’re recognizing a mistake and potentially acting accordingly. That’s also a step in the right direction. So we’d be looking at Ocho, TO, Shipley, Caldwell, Briscoe and Cosby if I had my druthers. Except maybe Jones as the fifth or sixth with Caldwell out of the picture. I really think Caldwell has sealed his fate with this team between his disappearing act last season and his complete nonexistence this preseason so far.

Unless he does something really major over the next three weekends, it’s going to be Jordan Shipley making those game-winning grabs this year. Actually, I think that to be the case whether Andre makes the team or not at this point.

by Craig Conrad on Aug 16, 2010 8:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

what is everyones obsession with Briscoe? Dude hasnt even gotten on the field.

I would keep simpson at this point. He looks much improved

by Diesel2405 on Aug 16, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions

THANK you.

Everyone loves Dez because he has a cool name and put up numbers in a goofy college offense. I think he’s got potential, but let’s go with what we see. That means no AB (I like the IR idea) and no Dez. Ocho, TO, Shipley, Caldwell, Simpson and Jones make the team. Cosby is out too, since anything he can do, Shipley can do as well.

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by Pardon_My_French on Aug 16, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hzh8dBoBoA&feature=related

That’s why.

by Doc Scratch on Aug 16, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions

This was just off the cuff.

Given more thought I would probably have said I’d keep Simpson at this point. Until I wanted to give it the final three preseason games. lol

by Craig Conrad on Aug 16, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Caldwell

In Marvin we Trust right?!?!? he’s said repeatedly this offseason that Bubba has been the most improved player since last year. Not sure why so many people are hating on him lately….they know what they have w/him and need to get these other guys reps in preseason to see what they have with them.

it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter

by TruWhoDey on Aug 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

Unless they're certain he's going to be affected long-term, I'd rather see him on IR.

That said, at least it looks like they’re recognizing a mistake and potentially acting accordingly. That’s also a step in the right direction. So we’d be looking at Ocho, TO, Shipley, Caldwell, Briscoe and Cosby if I had my druthers. Except maybe Jones as the fifth or sixth with Caldwell out of the picture. I really think Caldwell has sealed his fate with this team between his disappearing act last season and his complete nonexistence this preseason so far.

Unless he does something really major over the next three weekends, it’s going to be Jordan Shipley making those game-winning grabs this year. Actually, I think that to be the case whether Andre makes the team or not at this point.

by Craig Conrad on Aug 16, 2010 8:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

F*CK ANTONIO BRYANT.

Every second this goes on I am more and more convinced that this guy screwed this team. As incompetent as our front office and medical staff might have proven themselves to be over the years, there is no way they worked out a veteran wide receiver coming off knee surgery, saw any HINT of a medical issue, and then signed him to a huge 4-year contract. No. This guy doped himself up to the gills to get through his workouts, got his signing bonus, got himself to the first practice, and then showed them what shape he was really in.

Not only should he be cut, but I think there might be legitimate grounds for the team to sue the guy and his agent. Something incredibly shady happened here, bordering on fraud. At this point I can’t think of anyone who would want him any higher than #5 on the WR depth chart even if he was healthy. Shipley is CLEARLY our #3 receiver and Caldwell has earned no less than a #4 spot. And Why would we cut Simpson for a guy we don’t even know can play this year? No, the Bryant era in Cincinnati is already over. Now it’s just a matter of lawyers and numbers to see who gets how much from whom.

by eric nyc on Aug 16, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions

I have to think Antonio Bryant

wants to play if he can. He’s doing what the trainers tell him to do. He doesn’t want his career to end like this but his knee won’t let him get on the field.

by IllinoisBengal on Aug 16, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions

That doesn’t explain why EVERYBODY (including Bryant) swore up and down on a stack of bibles before his signing that he was 100% healthy and at the exact moment of the one practice that guaranteed his entire signing bonus he suddenly found himself “weeks maybe months away” from being in game shape. Teams don’t lightly throw around terms like “injury settlements” unless there’s a reason. Something went really wrong here.

by eric nyc on Aug 16, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions

He could’ve possibly just injured the knee again or the surgery didn’t hold up or something. There’s a lot of reasons for it, but at the time, his knee felt well, and then got progressively worse as the offseason went on. Chill dood, I don’t think either side is at fault here.

by Doc Scratch on Aug 16, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Couldn't we just put him on the IR, let him heal and get him ready to play next season?

Next season TO will be gone and we have to have some sort of receiver to replace him.

I’d like to see them eat that 7 million for this uncapped season and have a receiver for the future.

"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison

by sexsalad on Aug 16, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions

Next season most likely won't be a season.

Thee will probably be a lockout and when we come back in 2012 we’re probably going to be doing it without Chad, Ced, JJo, Bobbie Williams, and god knows who else. I don’t think anyone cares to wait 2 years to see if Antonio Bryant can get healthy. If reaching a settlement with Bryant can clear up ANY budget to add ANYTHING to the team this year, it needs to be done. Having him on IR doesn’t accomplish anything. My biggest fear is that this whole fiasco goes beyond final cuts and forces us to lose a legit young player (I’m looking at you, Dez Briscoe) all for the sake of this guy’s shenanigans.

by eric nyc on Aug 16, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy that says 'shenanigans!'

by KyleStyle11 on Aug 16, 2010 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Hey JT O'Sullivan

What’s the name of that place you like to go to with all that goofy shit on the walls?

2010 - The Year of the Tiger.

by UpStateMike on Aug 17, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions

BWAH-hahahahaha!

Now, THAT just cracked me up…thanks, and I’m now headed off to sleep The Sleep of The Just.

by TheWalrus1971 on Aug 17, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions

Again not understanding the briscoe obsession. Dude is not making the team.

The WR’s will be Ocho, T.O., Shipley, Simpson, Caldwell,Jones and Cosby

by Diesel2405 on Aug 16, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions

That will also be there depth order

by Diesel2405 on Aug 16, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree I don't understand the Briscoe fetish either..

He was a so so college guy that made a couple big plays and a late round draft pick.. Cut’em loose I doubt anyone picks him up and there 53 I mean that passed him up 6 times..

by JamesShively on Aug 16, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Plus where has he been? He has been more non existent then Caldwell

by Diesel2405 on Aug 16, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I don't understand foot fetish's either,

but people have them…

by WHYUS!! on Aug 16, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Briscoe is very raw.

He needs a year on the PS. I’m usually not one for conspiracy theories, but I have a feeling the coaching staff is purposefully keeping him out of the preseason to ensure they can keep him on the PS this first year. He’s built like a TO/Bryant type who could be a good physical #2 receiver after a year or so of grooming, but he was getting a lot of hype after the draft and a solid preseason would have made him a lock to not clear waivers if he didn’t make our final 53.

Just a theory.

by eric nyc on Aug 16, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Jerome Simpson/Dezmon Briscoe/Jordan Shipley

I kinda like that. Simpson’s supposed to be a freak and I hope Dez pans out. Shipley’s already the real deal and Gresham’s doing well too. They’re our future, whether we like them or not.

And I really don’t like how ineffective Simpson’s been.

by Doc Scratch on Aug 16, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Karma?

I’m wondering about this. After all of the stupidity and the highway robbery that Mike Brown has forced upon us as fans and tax payers throughout the years, one has to wonder of the past two signings of Coles and now Bryant (waste of money), Karma is taking care of business..
Hey Mikey, what comes around goes around… Karma on a bitch!
Now were ready to win the SuperBowl. Then we’ll be even.

by WHYUS!! on Aug 16, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions

I don't think MB loses money in these situations

I could be wrong but I think when multimillion dollar deals are signed there are medical insurence riders put into the contract. So, there may be an injury settlement but a lot of the payout doesn’t come from the Bengals. It comes from the insurance company. The end result is that MB realy doesn’t pay out of his pocket but Bryants salary will still count against the cap. There is probably not going to be a cap (for veterans) in the future. When it comes to money MB will not be screwed—his team might be however.

by featherman on Aug 17, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions

The signing bonus comes out of his pocket

Therefore he has lost that money. As for Insurance, yeah MB recovers some of his money and they will pay the settlement and any other monies due to the injured player.
Whether or not MB pays the settlement money first and then collects what is owed by the Insurance company later, is another issue.
In this case, they haven’t paid out anything but the signing bonus, so you might be right, MB might not be out a whole lot of money due to the timing of the release. But this is a pre existing injury and should have been noticed. So, one might think that the insurance company might have a problem paying just b/c he didn’t injure it as a Bengal under his current contract with the team.
That could be the hold up and determine his status on the team.

by WHYUS!! on Aug 17, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Ummmm....

Didn’t they do a physical on this guy….lol…I bleed cincy blood during football..but come on you have to have more common since then that when building a championship team… I figured they had some type of injury insurance policy in the contract…but, I guess they weren’t smart enough to do that….

by chuckyj1 on Aug 16, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions

Bone on bone

Antonio himself said his problem was “bone on bone” in the knee. That doesn’t get better. His next sport will be golf, and riding the cart at that.

Now how does someone pass a physical with a knee like that?

by bigoldguy on Aug 17, 2010 2:45 AM EDT reply actions

look at the money wasted on Coles last year and maybe Bryant this year.

But we could not pay TJ last year…..with Houz on the team we beat the Jets at home in the playoffs. Bryant will make 10 mill this season regardless. Moves like this is why Marvin is demanding a GM. Mike Brown needs to realize that he does not have an eye for talent. Mike Brown wants to be Jerry Jones but 1 he is too cheap to be Jones.

When Jerry Jones realized he was making bad football decision when evaluating talent he bring in Bill Parcells, the Bengals need a GM as well as a scouting department.

Kenneth Lewis Moore

by lightskin350 on Aug 17, 2010 3:13 AM EDT reply actions