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A Look Ahead to Cutdown Day

            We are all well aware of the brutal reality awaiting the Bengals 'front office'. Without a doubt several of the players let go this year will quickly become serious contributors on other teams. This should come as no surprise considering we've already seen teams like Kansas City routinely digging around in our dumpster.

           I've decided to make the tough cuts myself and you can all follow along using the Bengals.com depth chart as a visual aid if you like.

First Cuts: (in no particular order)

  • G. Manns, OT
  • I. Sowells, OG
  • A. Mitchell, OT
  • J. Sears, CB
  • J. Miles, S
  • T. Nelson, S
  • C. McDonald, DT
  • C. Harris, LS
  • D. Rayner, K
  • D. Hill, TE
  • V. Rey, OLB
  • M. Purify, WR

            I wouldn't be surprised if a few players among this first group racked up some stats with other teams this year (by that I mean 10-15 tackles or a few catches). Rayner, Nelson, Miles, McDonald, and Rey likely have the best shots at quickly signing with another team.

 

Tough Cuts: (in no particular order)

  • A. Hodge, MLB
  • R. Murray, S
  • J. Tronzo, FB
  • C. Peerman, RB
  • Q. Cosby, WR
  • M. Jones, WR
  • D. Jones, CB
  • O. Harris, DT
  • J. O'Sullivan, QB

            I'm convinced that the team has seen enough of J.T. O'Sullivan, Jordan Palmer has shown serious improvement in his accuracy and timing. More importantly there are guys on the street who can play as well as, if not better than, J.T. like Jeff Garcia. These are players waiting for a loaded team like us to lose their top arm. For this reason we keep only two QBs.

            Cosby and Matt Jones we're cut in favor of Andre Caldwell and Jerome Simpson. Instead of arguing the choices I'll just note that we can't keep nine receivers. To me, Antonio Bryant and the Bengals seem determined to utilize the receiver this year, which means they'll have to save him a spot on the roster.

            Aside from those quick arguments there is a slim chance any of the above players make the team. I bet that most of them take the field regularly for another team this year, though.

 

Final Cuts: (from easiest to toughest)

               It will be near impossible for us to keep more than six receivers, especially since Leonard may be out for a handful of games and we'll need an additional running back slot. I feel like Bryant, Caldwell, and Simpson are the best choice for the back three receivers. Briscoe will likely be grabbed from the waiver wire before he can land on our practice squad.

               Skuta is a great special-teamer, but I see his tryout at fullback as a longshot to save his spot on the squad. The tough choice is really deciding if 4th rounder Roddrick Muckelroy can fill Skuta's role with special teams coach Darren Simmons.

               The versatility of Dan Coats has kept him around a long time much to the ire of most fans. I saw a solid catch from him finally during the Broncos game but Chase Coffman has really been coming along and Reggie Kelly is back and strong.

               The hardest cut by far is Hebert. His presence is needed on special teams. He' can't play much defense, however, and the aggressive downhill play of Brandon Ghee has looked promising enough that he should be able to take Kyries' spot. Ghee may also end up being very versatile in the secondary.

 

THE FINAL 53:

QB (2): Palmer, Palmer

RB (4): Benson, Scott, Leonard, J. Johnson

FB (1): Vakapuna

TE (3): Gresham, Kelly, Coffman

WR (6): Ochocinco, Owens, Shipley, Caldwell, Simpson, Bryant

OT (4): Whitworth, Roland, Smith, Collins

OG (4): B. Williams, Livings, Mathis, Hudson

C (2): Cook, Stephens

 

LS (1): Windt

K (1): Nugent

P (1): Huber

 

DE (5): Geathers, Odom, Fanene, Rucker, Dunlap

DT (4): Peko, T. Johnson, Sims, Atkins

OLB (4): Maualuga, Rivers, M. Johnson, B. Johnson

MLB (2): D. Jones, Muckelroy

CB (5): Joseph, Hall, A. Jones, Trent, Ghee

S (4): R. Williams, Crocker, Ndukwe, Wilson

(Rashad Jeanty on PUP list)

 

That's one concentrated block of championship material

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Cincy Jungle's writers or editors.

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Only 2 issues.

1. I think Fui goes on IR. The Bengals can’t carry a FB with a bad shoulder and Leonard. Fui has to be able to take on a LB and can’t with a bad Shoulder. I think we go into the season with Tronzo.

2. Nuge isn’t going to make the team. He can’t kick due to a leg muscle injury. I think he hits the IR or the Street until healthy.

I agree that Briscoe and SKuta go to the PS, but Hudson might as well. HE hasn’t shown much this preseason and should be safe. That could leave room for Cosby or Herbert. Cosby is still in all the first-team Teams teams, and contributes more than just returns. ( I think I just managed to use teams in a sentence that works.) Bryant will be inactive early, if he makes the team, which could leave the space for Cosby.

by jim0ijk on Aug 19, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Fui and Nugent can be traded out, I don’t care, but if Hudson isn’t kept I’d keep Skuta

MwWsA

by raclark11986 on Aug 19, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you see nugent beating out rayner when nugent can’t even kick?

also, clark harris as one of the first cuts? i don’t know how you think he’s even going to lose the long-snapper battle to windt at this point.

they’ll likely keep 10 defensive backs rather than 9 linemen. you get more special teams play out of db’s, and that was the group that was most hurt by lack of depth last season.

i don’t see fui making this team for the same reason as nugent: not on the field. i could see skuta pulling it out because the coaches have made it clear that they want him on the roster for special teams.

i’m still not convinced antonio bryant will play for the bengals this season.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Fui, Nugent, and Windt can be changed out for Tronzo, Rayner, and Harris, but there will still only be 1 fb, 1 kicker, and 1 LS

MwWsA

by raclark11986 on Aug 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, if those are just arbitrary picks to fill the spots, that makes a lot more sense.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 RBs?

I feel like if the WR cuts become as difficult as everyone is anticipating, we would probably cut James Johnson, or put Leonard on IR. I know everyone is in love with him, but he’s less talented than Scott and he’s taking away his carries. His ability to play a bit of FB puts him ahead of Johnson, but he’s taking carries away from lightning in a bottle so I see his workload diminished greatly either way.

by baconbitz309 on Aug 19, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

exactly what i was going to say. We are way more likely to keep an extra LB (skuta, hodge, jeanty) or WR (Cosby, Jones, Caldwell) than a RB who will never get in the game

by The Dealio on Aug 19, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

we cannot go into a season with only 3 running backs if one of them is injured. Leonard is likely to miss 3-6 games but no less I bet

MwWsA

by raclark11986 on Aug 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

You keep James Johnson and Peerman on the PS, case solved.

by jimbasa on Aug 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that will work if Benson and Scott can be effective on third down, really I think that Peerman and Johnson duke it out to see who can block the most linebackers and has better hands. I wish Scott could do it but he’s smallish to absorb those kinds of impacts and still be effective on 1st and 2nd down with Benson.

MwWsA

by raclark11986 on Aug 19, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are Pratice Squad Restrictions?

Something about how long someone’s been in the league or how many times they’ve been put on the PS? I remember hearing something about it when talking about Simpson last year I think

by baconbitz309 on Aug 19, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Squad Eligibility

•According to league policy, only certain types of players are allowed to sign to the practice squad. Players cannot have played more than nine regular season games or been on the active roster for an entire year, nor can players be allowed to spend more than two seasons on the same team’s squad unless that team’s active roster never dips below 53 players.

Read more: NFL Practice Squad Rules | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_4793705_nfl-practice-squad-rules.html#ixzz0x54IiNSR

by jim0ijk on Aug 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cutting our special teams

Alright I won’t argue that Skuta and Kyries are safe.
But one of the 2 will make the roster.
You’d be cutting away your special teams,

Kyries last year was the special teams captain and I won’t argue that he is a big contributer on D. Skuta is talked up by the coachng staff for his special teams work and shows promise on d with his back-up reps.
Not saying they one wouldn’t go but you would be crazy to send both gone.

by C Byers on Aug 19, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Skuta....

will make the team. For the reasons you stated. There is more upside with him. Kyries is over 30 and besides ST offers little to the team. Skuta provides alot of value. He would not clear waivers.

by redberkey on Aug 19, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask last years pittsburgh team

How little special teams offers the team.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Aug 19, 2010 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

The players on the bubble are decided by their contribution to special teams.

Skuta will make Simmon’s squad even if he doesn’t do much for Zimmer’s squad. I think Cosby makes Simmon’s squad as well even if someone else returns punts. He covers and blocks well.

by IllinoisBengal on Aug 19, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rey, Miles, and Sears?

The coaches are high on these guys, I don’t see them getting cut.

by Doc Scratch on Aug 19, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

you think Hudson would clear waivers though? We have to keep Stephens and Collins

MwWsA

by raclark11986 on Aug 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i haven’t necessarily seen much from hudson to suggest that he wouldn’t clear waivers.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson wasn't even supposed to get drafted.

I bet nobody would’ve drafted him. He would’ve been a clear cut CFA. He should clear waivers.

by jimbasa on Aug 19, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Side note

Also.. how do you honestly justify Simpson.. this isn’t my blog so i can be as biased as I want :D

Ps. Trent has gotten owned all preseason. Watch when they make a big play it’s on Trent. I feel David Jones made 1 big play and got burnt as well, one great play (vs Quinn) and multiple bad don’t equal out. Rico is doing ok. Sears is aggressive and draws penalties but shows great potential, damn you numbers game.

by C Byers on Aug 20, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

trent has been burned on the outside, but he’s a nickel corner, so he’ll be lining up in the slot, where he excels. if it were my team, sears would’ve sealed his ticket out of here with consecutive interference penalties.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 20, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want Skuta on this team.

He has shown that he can play 2 positions at an NFL level (LB and FB.) He also contributes pretty well on ST.

"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison

by sexsalad on Aug 20, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with most

but I see only 9OL, no more Wilson at S, no Nugent, Fui is hurt so maybe PUP, no Johnson at RB, and possibly cut Bryant. Then I see us keeping Briscoe, Hebert, Tronzo, Rayner, and Skuta with maybes for Vey or Hodge or Murray or Nelson.

We are deep and we will have to cut some talent, but none of these guys will keep us awake at night while being studs for another team (unless we make a big mistake and cut Simpson who has tons of potential to be a star receiver, though he still has a long way to go).

I also would not be shocked to see us start the season with 3 safeties with Ghee being our 4th. I could even see DJones or Trent, along with Ghee getting some time at S for our final preseason game.

by kennythered on Aug 21, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

If they cut Tronzo and Skuta, they’re going with a FB who has never played. Not sure i like that scenario. If anything, they cut Fui too and grab a veteran from another team’s cuts, and put Skuta on the PS.

How are Stone-hands Coats & O Harris tough cuts???

Isn’t Gerbil Wilson out for the season?

 

by ephram on Aug 23, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

i’m sold on tronzo as the fullback. coats has been catching passes in the preseason rather than dropping them; i think he’s up to something.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 23, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he saw they draft Coffman and then Gresham and realized he couldn’t survive on personality alone anymore….

by ephram on Aug 24, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

daniel coats: the fat girl of tight ends.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 24, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Fui goes on IR.

Harris is not a tough cut, but he may contribute on another team. Same with Briscoe and Matt Jones. The 6th WR spot is down to SImpson and Cosby in my opinion. Whatever Briscoe’s potential he is not ready to contribute for a team with Superbowl aspirations. I hope he makes it to the PS but he can’t be carried on the roster.

by jim0ijk on Aug 24, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Wilson is out for the season

He will likely go on IR.

As for cuts, after yesterday, I think Peerman gets in over James Johnson.
Simpson is a lost cause
Briscoe is definitely a tough cut if he goes.

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Sep 3, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confirmed

Wilson is on IR
Nelson on PUP list

My 2010 Sports wishlist.
1. 2010 Reds...the biggest surprise of the year. I've turned the corner on you, Dusty. Thanks for bringing out the best in my Redlegs.
2. Cavaliers Championship...never mind...Let's go with OSU wining the Big Ten.
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Sep 3, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're close, but not quite there.

I disagree about the shakedown at WR. It’s no surprise to me that Bryant was cut today. He can’t perform. Simpson, in my opinion gets cut too. I see Matt Jones and Quan Cosby making the cut.

On the defensive side, I think Muckelroy goes to the PS, while Hodge makes the squad. Hodge is too valuable on special teams. Also, I think the Bengals try to get Dunlap to the PS, and fail. Meanwhile, Michael Johnson holds down one of the DE slots, and we see Skuta make the team.

At safety, with Wilson to IR, Kyries Hebert makes the squad because, quite simply, he is a special teamer.

Finally, I think Jones makes it over Trent at CB.

by Awww_Fui on Aug 29, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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