Question of the Day: What Surprise Bengals Player Makes The Roster?
by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 19, 2010 11:35 AM EDT
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PrintThis should be an interesting topic. While it's still really early to project a 53-man roster at this point with three preseason games remaining, which means there's more than enough time for injury or for guys to really shine to knock a lock off the hinges, I wanted to ask: Which player on the team's current 80-man roster would be the surprise player to make the team's final roster?
I'm going with cornerback Johnny Sears. Yep. Way out of the box, right?
Well, aside from the two pass interferences he committed against Denver, Sears has been greatly praised during Training Camp. Yahoo Sports' Jason Cole visited Georgetown and wrote on August 5 that the "Bengals appear to have improved their backups quite a bit with the addition of Adam 'Pacman' Jones and undrafted rookie Johnny Sears. In fact, Sears did a great job jumping a route by Owens to intercept a pass from Carson Palmer during the first half of practice."
Marc Hardin writes that "Sears hasn't been beat too often". Joe Reedy writes that Marvin Lewis "has been pleased with CB Johnny Sears". Reedy also wrote on Tuesday that Sears is one of three free agent rookies with a good chance of making the team. The others being vincent Rey and Jeromy Miles.
That's not to say Sears doesn't have an uphill climb. David Jones returned an interception 24 yards for a touchdown against Denver. Consider that the Bengals took five cornerbacks last year. Let's give three of those spots away now to Johnathan Joseph, Leon Hall and Adam Jones. That leaves Morgan Trent, Brandon Ghee, Jones and Sears for the final two spots. Of my surprise picks that makes the team, Sears will claim one of those spots.
Honorable mention: Orien Harris.
Now it's your turn. What player makes the squad that would be considered a surprise? You can pick anyone -- yes, including Daniel Coats (though I don't think that would be a surprise).
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Vincent Rey
He’s got an uphill battle at he LB corps, but it sounds like he is a tackling machine and the staff is high on him.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Aug 19, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
this was my pick as well. he’s been the one player in the preseason games (and from the videos on the team website) that’s had me consistently saying, “who is that guy?”
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
man, i really want rucker to stay, too!
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I want a lot of people to stick
But I don’t think a new roster size is coming before the season.
i know, it’s just a nice problem to have.
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
just think, right now, in kansas city, a young lad prays that the bengals will cut somebody his team could use.
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Vincent Rey knocks Abdul Hodge off
I could see that.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 19, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
it will be interesting to see the flip side
and guess a player cut that would be a big surprise. I am thinking Hodge and Johnson at LB may not be safe with Muckeroy, Skuta and Rey garnering consideration. Even though Skuta is moonlighting as a FB, his roster spot will ultimately be on reserved for a LB.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Aug 19, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t see any possibility of brandon johnson getting cut; he’s too much a solid contributor on defense and on teams.
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
but with Michael Johnson transitioning to SAM and the hypothetical of young guys making the roster as a ‘surprise additions’ got me thinking.
by Cedric Benson Boat Party on Aug 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
RE: Johnson
Agreed. Brandon Johnson is safe. He’s also one of the base nickel linebackers and a hellva special teams contributor. Hell, I’m still arguing that they should keep him around as long as possible with an extension.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 19, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see that too...
Vincent Rey knocks Abdul Hodge off
Hodge hasn’t been impressing as far as I have seen. I have seen him land flat on his back however… not good.
by Oregonbengalsfan on Aug 19, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeromy Miles....
I have been high on this guy since we signed him out of UMASS. His chances of making the team took a shot when we added Gibril Wilson but I am hoping he edges out Kyries Hebert.
He has tremendous hitting power as evidinced by the lick he put on Tebow but the guy also has decent cover skills and if we were in a pinch, I’d much rather have him playing Safety than Tom Nelson or Hebert.
by Tyler Pochocinco on Aug 19, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
I've been watching Miles since draft day hoping Miami would have picked him up.
I still try to keep up with his progress just sorta as a pet player kinda thing, but anyways his chances of making Cincys team didn’t take that great a hit when Gibril came on, Just sayin from a Dolphins fan point of view. I could see Miles peaking in his third year.
I could see the Bengals carrying 4 Safeties and 6 CBs, but right now I have Trent, Jones and Ghee ahead of Sears. Sears and miles probably hit the PS to wait for injuries. The 4 safeties have experience, and any could start for a few games.
As for my surprise make: Tronzo at FB. I have said at least once today Fui can’t make the team if hes not on the field, and can’t block with a bad shoulder. IR him and try again next year. Put Skuta on the PS if eligible and let Tronzo lead Benson into the fray. I also expect a lot of 2 TE sets this year whihc lessens the value of FB anc could see Coats making the team as #4 TE and FB for goal line blocking.
I am with you on Joe Tronzo and may prefer him over Fui. I have concerns about Fui’s durability and tenacity so if Tronzo continues to play well, I am all for him making the team.
by Tyler Pochocinco on Aug 19, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Skuta ....
will make the team. He’s one of their top ST players. Being able to help out at FB on top of LB is a plus. He wouldn’t get thru waivers.
Matt Jones
My guess is Carson gets him kept on the team.
by Throw the ball on Aug 19, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
why?
because he wants someone that can’t get open for the first 5 seconds after the ball is snapped?
RIP Slim.
yeah, matt jones is one guy carson hasn’t even mentioned; in fact, i keep forgetting matt jones is here, which to me is the surest sign he won’t make the team.
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Carson mentioned
him a few times during OTA’s actually
by Throw the ball on Aug 19, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't need to get open...
He’s taller than most CB’s a half foot or more, he’ll just catch the ball over their heads.
You have gresham and owens
You don’t need him in the red zone.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Aug 19, 2010 6:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brandon Marshall was about 6 inches taller than hall an joseph
And remind me how he did in that game last year. Height isn’t everything.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Aug 19, 2010 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Matt Jones
presence on the field is the same as Chris Henry’s. As long as he is being covered down field, he is doing his job. If he isn’t, he is wide open for a touchdown. He had a great game against the Cowboys.
"I gotta show em' how to eat right man, that's all...I got all five food groups. Pancakes, sausage-egg McMuffin, cinnamon roll, large orange juice... I just be juiced all day."
Rico Murray
I think Rico is very valuable on ST and if we go with 5 Safeties, I could see him overlapping Kyries Hebert.
uuuh yeah I write for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Thanks?
+1
Murray also plays CB, so they could keep 5 CB and 5 S if murray is the 5th Sand 6th CB
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by Joe Goodberry on Aug 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
...
How he ended up on our team in the 6th round is beyond my comprehension. I had him going in the 3rd at most in my mock draft.
But 32 teams had him in the 6th or later
What has he done to prove them wrong?
I agree
He was passed up an awful lot for such an “amazing talent”. When I went to training camp 2 things really struck me about Briscoe. He’s really big and looks really slow.
by Throw the ball on Aug 19, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not necessarily.
You draft based on need most of the time. So teams might’ve needed other players more than him at certain picks while still having him valued much higher.
Yeah and DBH was taking in the 1st round last year and look at him right now.
If you’re trying to convince me that Briscoe is not talented then you’re wasting your time. Due some research and you’ll find a lot of praise for him. Look at some college highlights too. Look at most mock drafts, some had him in the 2nd. So the talent is there, he’s just buried behind a bunch of receivers right now. I guarentee he’ll be picked up by team if we put him on the PS and will produce if given the chance.
I am not
I am trying to coonvince you that he will be safe on the practice squad, but that our WR battle is too tight to keep a guy who isn’t ready to contribute.
Also
There is no need to look at mocks any more. We have the results of the draft, which are definitive on how the draft went.
not sure why there's so much in house hype on this guy
Jerome Simpson so far as been way more productive. Briscoe has caught 1 pass for 11 yards in two games. In the same time, Simpson has 4 catches for 63 yards… and if Carson were throwing him the Ball he’d have more because those deep balls by JT were all off target. If I were to choose based on what I’ve seen, I’d take Simpson everyday.
Carson hasn't thrown to Simpson
Its been JTO and JP, same as Briscoe
So briscoe
has a better QB throwing to him and is going against lesser talent than Simpson….
by Throw the ball on Aug 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dealio was talking hypothetically as was I
and if Carson were throwing him the Ball he’d have more
Dez to PS
My vote is to take a chance and put him on PS. If he makes it then we develop him…if not so be it, Reasons: next year we draft a top WR and especially a QB with greater potential than the QB bums we have now. TO may exit for higher pay and Chad will be in his last year…. so get a Gresham or Shipley next year that will contribute immediately. If Dez is so great why hasn’t he appeared on the radar yet?
Good Point
But Simpson needs to go. From my days in the Thoroughbred business we had “morning glories” that worked like stakes winners in the morning but choked in the afternoon and would finnish way up the track. Same with Simpson… does great in practice and marginal in preseason games but come game time he will not make it. Need to cut the loss and move on. Draft next year like our 1st & 3rd this year.
Another Thought
Since we’re talking racehorses consider this…… Trainers like coaches have claiming horses like coaches/owners have players that they are afraid to run or cut/place on the practice squad for fear of having them claimed or in football picked up by another team. Rarely do these claimers/players come back to haunt them. There are exceptions but the percentage is very low. So the point is; some times you have to roll the dice and say your goodbyes at the barn and let’em go.
If your talking about Briscoe them I'd disagree...
I see Briscoe as a 2 year old claiming horse with great past performances (his college career) with potential to be an Allowance horse.
by jimbasa on Aug 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so, why does the “bad qb and other talented receivers” excuse hold true only for briscoe, and not for the other receivers who are out-performing him?
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Because...
Briscoe is unfortunately behind:
A. Simpson, who got drafted a couple of years ago in the 2nd round.
B. Caldwell (see above)
C. Matt Jones, who is a veteran former 1st rounder.
Do I need to explain why he’s behind Ocho, TO, and Shipley?
If he gets a chance, and by that I mean reps with some decent throws, he’ll stick like glue to the roster, believe you me.
he would be getting reps ahead of jones if he were doing better than jones is in practice. jones is a street free agent with a veteran minimum deal, so the coaches have no particular need for him.
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok... great fun.
Trouble is……its a Claimer to Starer Allowance at River Downs. The NFL is like Saratoga.
Thanks for the fun!!
Agree
So much up side with Cos. Check out Matt Jones’ blocking clinic during the Denver game. Baaaaaaaad. Cos has proven he’s a good team player with his contribution on ST. Matt cannot block or tackle…….he’s a third string WR and limits team usefulness for a roster spot.
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Rayner
If he’s still not the favorite guy at this point, he’s gonna surprise some doods who had Nuge as the guy.
Nuge Still 2010 Bengal Kicker
Nuge will be Bengal kicker by first regular season game. Go Bucks! Please no blue and maize.
what makes you think nugent will be the kicker, other than mike brown’s affinity for ohio state?
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A Winning Pedigree
Remember how he performed for the Bucks with unbelieveable consistency. He’s a winner.
that was before he kept getting injured, and it was like 7 years ago. i don’t need a kicker who’s a winner, i need a kicker who’s a kicker. and right now, that’s rayner.
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Rayner has the leg for kickoffs
But I’d rather have the guy that can hit the 50+ yd game winner than the guy who kicks it off.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Aug 20, 2010 1:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we don’t really know that about either of them, since neither has been asked to do so yet.
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just going by practice updates
i think rayner hit one from 50+ whereas nuge did it 4 or 5 times.
RIP Slim.
Jeromy Miles
He hasn’t received much playing time, but looked decent in coverage over the middle in the Denver game, and disguised his blitzes very well… Tebow didn’t appear to have any clue that he was coming until he was hit. Truth be told, if I was making the decision based on what I have seen in the games so far (I know, not the full story) I would take Miles over Gibril Wilson. The latter’s coverage was abominable, particularly against Dallas.
Likewise, I wasn’t impressed with Sears last Sunday.
David Jones
I think D. Jones has a great shot to be number 53. He’s very fast, he’s experienced, and he plays smart. Another solid corner will be very tough to let go considering the passing oriented teams on our schedule. I’m really pulling for Orien Harris though due to his beastly preseason play thus far.
MwWsA
i think the pick-six on quinn might have sealed the deal for his roster spot.
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by Raging Clue on Aug 19, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nooooooooo!!!!
Please, no, not Graham!!!
by BonnieBengal on Aug 20, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Quan
Quan Cosby. He’s not just a solid PR. He is also a great blocker. If you watch Bernard Scott’s punt return for a TD against Pittsburgh, you will see Quan Cosby doing some incredible blocking for him at the end, making it possible for him to get to the end zone.
Quan Cosby in "One Guy, Three Blocks."
Can’t ever count this guy out. If he gets pushed off the roster, it’s really going to benefit another NFL team. The guy is a baller, end of story. I’m a huge Cosby fan, but I also realize all the talent in front of him. Shipley and Adam Jones are both excellent punt returners and he’s going to have a hard time getting on the field with the offense, but he would make a terrific gunner/teams demon. In that regard he nullifies Kyries Hebert’s main function and could make the roster that way.
Just go read the article I linked, although the video is unfortunately pulled from youtube.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 20, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t know why the link isn’t working, one didn’t work for me on RR last night in the reds’ game thread.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 20, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
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