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Five Questions/Thoughts About Bengals Fourth Preseason Game Against The Bills

Rather than the typical questions like how does Carson Palmer look, will the backup quarterbacks resemble quarterbacks, or can the offensive line keep battling to keep Palmer upright, I wanted to look at different areas to watch for this Saturday's game against the Buffalo Bills.

YOUNG AND BUBBLE SECONDARY TO GET OPPORTUNITIES. With news that the Bengals will be missing key players in the secondary against Buffalo, it's a good excuse to see our younger backup/bubble players against the opposing first-team offense. Cornerback Jonny Sears, listed behind David Jones as the team's fourth string cornerback, could see more playing time, depending on how quickly the team takes Leon Hall and Johnathan Joseph off the field.

Sears, having a good training camp this year, was one of my surprise picks to make the roster this year; though I'm not saying he will make the squad. Considering that the team is stocked with talent in the secondary, especially at cornerback, it might even seem unlikely. Morgan Trent's three-interception performance against the Eagles and David Jones' 24-yard interception return for a touchdown hurts his chances. Still, this will be a good opportunity for Sears to make things much more complicated.

However, the safety position seems in much worse shape this weekend. With Williams out, and Ndukwe possible sitting out, Gibril Wilson is already out for the season. That leaves Chris Crocker to start at free safety and third-string strong-safety Kyries Hebert. After that, the Bengals will have Rico Murray, Jeromy Miles, Tom Nelson and Marvin White rotating in. While none of those players seem like candidates to play much during the regular season, Williams' durability will be a constant attention-grabber throughout the regular season, prompting a seemingly unimportant debate on how stocked the team can build safeties through the practice squad.

CAN ANY BUBBLE WIDE RECEIVERS TAKE ADVANTAGE? With two preseason games to go, players that sit on the bubble -- guys likely to get cut, but could still make a run for a roster spot -- are running out of time. No position on this team explains that more than wide receivers; a constant stream of debate on this very site. According to Joe Reedy's speculation, if Bryant doesn't the 53-man roster because of a variety of reasons, the team's receiver roster could look like this: Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, Jordan Shipley, Andre Caldwell, Quan Cosby and Jerome Simpson. If Bryant makes the roster, then it's down to Cosby or Simpson.

So the reality is that any remaining roster battles between receivers will likely be fought between Cosby and Simpson. If Bryant is gone, both stay. After that, you have a choice between Matt Jones, Dezmon Briscoe and Maurice Purify. All three receivers have combined for four preseason receptions for 53 yards receiving -- all of which came against the Dallas Cowboys. Jones and Briscoe were shutout against the Broncos and Eagles and Maurice Purify, dealing with an injury, hasn't caught a pass all preseason.

If Jones, Briscoe or Purify hope to make any noise to a complicated debate, it has to happen Saturday night. Their time is running out.

CAN A PLACE KICKER PLEASE STAND UP, PLEASE STAND UP? It's not that I miss Shayne Graham, who holds several franchise kicking records; his history of missing clutch kicks have been well documented. Yet, he converted 85.2% of his career field goal attempts. Like him, hate him, that's nearly 10% higher than the combined 76.1% conversion between Mike Nugent and David Rayner. While you might not miss Graham, you really don't get the feeling that the team is any better off. Perhaps that's a bit unfair to Mike Nugent, whose only field goal attempt this preseason came on a 59-yard attempt after dealing with a groin injury during training camp. David Rayner has had more opportunities, converting four of six field goal attempts. However, his misses have come at a manageable distances (for a professional kicker) of 44 and 36 yards.

We spent some time detailing their careers, especially during pressure situations. We counted six field goals that Nugent either tied or won a game late in the fourth quarter; a quarter in which Nugent converted 84% of his field goals (21 for 25). Through his first three seasons with the Jets, Nugent kicked five field goals that brought New York to within a touchdown or field goal.

Is Rayner the leading candidate to win the job, simply because he's attempted more field goal attempts? Or will the Bengals use Nugent much more exclusively during the final two preseason games to get a better sample size than one 59-yard attempt?

HOW LONG (AND PRODUCTIVE) WILL ANDRE SMITH PLAY? It's very likely that if Andre Smith doesn't start, he'll get a bunch of repetitions against the Bills this weekend. With Anthony Collins likely missing Saturday night's contest, the Bengals will be severely limited. With Andrew Whitworth starting at left tackle, either Dennis Roland or Smith will start on the right side. After that, it's Gabriel Manns and newly signed Chris Rodgers.

Since he didn't have a very productive Training Camp, you figure that Smith will get the bulk of the team's offensive snaps, mostly to expediate the time he's missed. How soon will Smith get on the field? Has he progressed enough to start after struggling through much of last week's game against the Eagles?

I also want to see how Rodgers, whose just another one of Lewis' beloved utility offensive linemen, performs.

HOW MUCH WILL VINCENT REY (NOT MAUALUGA) FACTOR? Bengals undrafted free agent linebacker Vincent Rey is a 6-foot, 240-pound muscle of linebacking madness. He comes in with a great work ethic and a Duke career spent as a wrecking machine, recording 330 tackles -- including 28 tackles-for-loss -- during his three-year starting career. Dude has a nose for the football. His 13 preseason tackles ranks second behind Geno Atkins, most of which have come during passing plays and on special teams. He has largely impressed Marvin Lewis, who will have to debate how many linebackers he's going to take into the regular season.

Locks: Dhani Jones, Rey Maualuga, Keith Rivers, Michael Johnson, Brandon Johnson.

The question is numbers. If the Bengals take six linebackers, then Rey will battle with Abdul Hodge and Roddrick Muckelroy. You could factor in Rashad Jeanty, a likely PUP candidate and Dan Skuta, depending on if he makes the team as a fullback (which seems very unlikely). However, it seems very possible that the team takes seven, if not eight linebackers, to build special teams with linebackers like Hodge, Rey or Muckelroy.

Any one of these linebackers could make a great impression in the final two games to lock up the remaining roster spots. How many spots available is unknown.

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Johnny Sears won’t play, he has a muscle pu

it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter

by TruWhoDey on Aug 27, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

beat me to it..

Roy Williams has also said he would play if this was the regular season. I am guessing they are just keeping him fresh and healthy.

I hope we get a K off waivers.. ours are.. unique.

by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Aug 27, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

He’s listed as Joe’s definition of being doubtful, but doesn’t mean he’s out.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 27, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geoff Hobson is saying muscle pull. I hope he plays though..

by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Aug 27, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Final LB spot

Seems like the Muckman has it, mostly through versatility. The only true SAM locked in thus far is Michael Johnson with Maualuga being versatile enough to play middle and strongside. It honestly might be a good idea to take seven LBs, all things considering, but where would you cut down from last year, especially if the Bengals do take ten guys in the secondary?

by Doc Scratch on Aug 27, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

do you think muckelroy has it because he’s a fourth-round pick? because rey has clearly outperformed him in the preseason.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 27, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE:

In truth, that’s typically the case for guys in the first 4-5 rounds, I’d say. (Simpson, Jerome)

But yea, Rey (not Maualuga) has definitely impressed far more.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 27, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skuta?

LB, FB, and ST….potentially even as a 3rd or 4th safety if he can cover

it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter

by TruWhoDey on Aug 27, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Are your guys starters expected to play the first half, minus the banged up ones of course? Since it is your 4th preseason game, and not the 3rd?

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 27, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Cool, thanks.

Looking forward to see what we got going up against you guys. I really want to see what our O looks like against your D. And of course ‘Batman and Robin’ vs our ‘McCorners’. (McGee and McKelvin)

Heres to a good, staying healthy battle tomorrow night.

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 27, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

eeh

Were transitioning to a 3-4 this year. I think we’ll be more aggresive this year, could be a good or bad thing. First game we didnt look too good vs Wash, but seemed to make adjustments for the next week vs Indi.

Hopefully you guys bring your ‘A’ game tomorrow night so we get a better look at what we got. But the pass rush, or lack thereof, might be our biggest problem this year. Plus Byrd is hurt and might not be able to go week 1.

But hey its August, we’re all contenders ;-)

Is Odom back for you guys yet? If Im thinking of the right guy he was a beast for you coming off the end last year and then went down with an ACL? injury if im not mistaken…

Where else would you rather be?

by bflo on Aug 27, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odom's back, but...

He’s had a variety of nicks and illnesses keeping him out. He ruptured his Achilles tendon last year. He probably won’t be the same this year, but the Bengals got depth behind him. And, ditto to the healthy game manana. We, like your team, need our guys healthy.

by Anthony Cosenza on Aug 27, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odom

once he gets back to his playing weight of 270-280 he should be fine. He said he lost 20 pounds when he got sick… So I’m assuming once he gets his strength back he’ll be fine. This pre-season stuff is just nics and scratches

by The Dealio on Aug 28, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

After watching the Patriots-Rams game Thursday

I want to see if we can cover the tight end as well.

by IllinoisBengal on Aug 27, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Gronkowski looked pretty beast..

But the Patriots defense looked AWFUL!
It was hilarious watching the first team Patriots defense scramble around, unable to get the Rams second string offense off the field.

by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Aug 27, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

A couple of battles

I thin Sears goes to the practice Squad. While I have heard good things, he hasn’t done anything to beat out Ghee, Trent and D Jones, who are in a battle for the last 2 corner spots.

Brandon Johnson has been a beast on teams. He was responsible for at least one if not 2 tackles inside the 20 on kicks last week, which lessens Hodge’s value. I would Keep V-Rey and attempt to send Muckleroy to the PS, and PUP Jeanty. We have enough LB rotation to use any of them on teams, and I have seen most of the guys make temas tacles this pre-season.

I think there is more to be learned from Nuge’s attempt than the surface miss from 59 yards. It tells me that the team thinks Nuge has a bigger leg than Raynor. I think that the staff knew Raynor had a 0% chance to make the kick while Nuge had 10% or so. I hope to see some Nuge attempts tomorrow.

by jim0ijk on Aug 27, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope too,

that we see more of Nuge tomorrow. If we don’t, that will tell us that he may be out.

by WHYUS!! on Aug 27, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

judging by kickoffs, rayner has a much bigger leg than nugent.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 27, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have thought so

Yet they only trotted Nuge out for the 59 yarder

by jim0ijk on Aug 27, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i took that as them saying, “well, sorry you didn’t get to try the 50-yarder earlier”. and just throwing him a bone.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 28, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Pressley

I know I’m probably in the wrong article to be making this comment, but I’m old — cut me some slack.

I was looking at bucsnation.com, and the feeling is that Chris Pressley won’t make the roster. The Bucs will keep Earnest Grahan at fullback. Maybe????

by bigoldguy on Aug 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I've read that other places as well

Pressley blocks but he didn’t do anything else for them. They’re looking for a FB who can catch and carry as well.

by IllinoisBengal on Aug 27, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not smart

Fui hasn’t stayed healthy at all. He pisses me off. With a new TE to throw to and a ton of WR’s, why would they need a FB who can catch? Just get a thumper.

by Anthony Cosenza on Aug 27, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, please, please, please let chris pressley come back.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 27, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been as impressed with Tronzo as I was Pressley last year.

by jim0ijk on Aug 27, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, tronzo has been quite good.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 28, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

J.P. Foschi

Just to note that the Bills just added J.P. Foschi this week.
Don’t know if they’ll play him or not.

by IllinoisBengal on Aug 27, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

hope he sticks. he did reasonably well for us last season; at least, much better than coats.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Aug 27, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I thought he deserved at least a shot to make the roster this year (in case we had some injuries). I’m glad he’s landed in Buffalo.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Aug 28, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 I think a lot of people or in denial with Simpson.

by DonMegga on Aug 28, 2010 2:34 AM EDT reply actions  

We'll face the truth this year

whatever the outcome is. We’ll have too.

by WHYUS!! on Aug 28, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I am in denial

I haven’t seen anyting out of Jones or Briscoe this preseaon that makes me think either would contribute more this season. SImpson is among the team leaders in catches and yards, and was open long twice but was the victim of JTO. Jones had one good game against 3rd teamers, but also couldn’t get his feet down along the side which worries me. Brisoce has one catch. If someone shines, I have no issue moving on, but I want to move on to greener grass and its not greener yet.

by jim0ijk on Aug 28, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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