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Cincinnati Bengals First Team Offense Continues To Improve During 35-20 Loss To The Buffalo Bills

I was relatively satisfied by the Bengals performance against the Bills Saturday night. No, no. I'm not talking about the scrub-time with backup and third string players. What's the point in judging the team after the first team leaves? At that point, you just look for individual performances; not an overall judgment of the team's regular season prospects. I mean, you can judge them on all of that if you want, but it seems like an unnecessary reason to be pessimistic. To each their own though.

Let's hit on some observations.

CARSON PALMER LOOKS CRISP AGAIN. Aside from a couple unfortunate throws against the Eagles, Palmer has looked sharp in the past three preseason games. Most notably, his performances against the Broncos and Bills scored a passer rating of 95.8 and 142.2 respectively. In his past three games, Palmer's efficiency is a combined 73.4% and his overall passer rating in the past three games is over 90.

Opponent Comp Att Yards TD INT Sacks Rating
Denver 12 15 105 0 0 0 95.8
Philadelphia 15 23 169 0 2 0 50.8
Buffalo 9 11 95 2 0 0 142.2
  36 49 369 2 2 0 91.3

ALSO OF NOTE: The first team offensive line has keep Palmer upright, not allowing a quarterback sack in three straight games -- or 15 consecutive drives dating back to the win against Denver. Overall, the first team offensive line play is much, much, much, improved over what they showed against Dallas earlier this month.

It was a completely different story once the second-team offensive line came in, specifically later in the game with J.T. O'Sullivan and Jordan Palmer, both of whom were under constant pressure with four-man fronts.

PASSING GAME KEEPS IMPROVING. Jermaine Gresham recorded his first preseason touchdown in the first quarter, splitting a deep zone easily catching the football in the middle of the endzone. Gresham recorded four receptions for 45 yards receiving. Chad Ochocinco also recorded a touchdown, Palmer's second, on a naked boot to the left, where Chad ran across the back of the endzone, hauling down an arching pass in the back left corner. Terrell Owens picked up 35 yards on three receptions and Jordan Shipley recorded a team leading five receptions for 38 yards receiving.

Combined, Ochocinco, Gresham, Owens and Shipley, recorded 11 receptions, 114 yards receiving and two touchdowns in the first half. Shipley would go on record another three receptions, in which we didn't factor into our overall combined numbers.

IS THE RETURN GAME DECIDED? Adam Jones is clearly the team's best return man. Including a 51-yard return on kickoff, Jones averaged 38 yards per return and even picked up 11 yards on his lone punt return.

KICKING GAME TAKES A TURN. With just over 11 minutes left in the third quarter, Mike Nugent crushes a 54-yard field goal to cut the Bengals deficit to within four points. While the distance is nice, we still need a constant sample from Nugent. But the 54-yarder definitely helps his cause.

SCARY HIT. With 8:33 left in the third quarter, the Bills lined up fourth-and-one at the Bengals 22-yard line. Bills running back Chad Simpson gets the football and runs off the left edge, recording a two-yard gain and a first down. Brandon Ghee, quite possibly growing as one of the biggest hitters in the secondary, generated a massive collision on Jackson. Ghee, after the hit, immediately went limp, falling over as if he fell unconscious on his stomach. At one point the ambulance came out, but was recalled as Ghee finally got up under his own power, taking the cart off the field.

Having experienced the depressing career-ending hit that David Pollack took against the Browns in 2006, watching Ghee being worked on for so long after seeing that hit was humbling and scary. If we're grateful for anything, it's him getting up, fully aware and every limb reportedly functional as he left the game with a great standing ovation from the Bills fans.

What's worse on the cornerback roster is Adam Jones suffered a neck injury a bit later in the game, not returning.

BENGALS RUSH DEFENSE. Even though Bills running back C.J. Spiller recorded 52 yards rushing and two touchdowns, his first three carries went for -16 yards.

ANDRE SMITH. On the Bengals drive that started at their own 34-yard line with over seven minutes left in the third quarter, I specifically watched Andre Smith. Even though he was likely playing against second and third team scrubs, Smith was far more dominating than he was against the Eagles last week. No man that Smith targeted to block made a play and when the Bengals ran the football, Smith turned, drove and manhandled his guy.

There was this one passing play where Smith made contact, then stepped inside, and suddenly redirecting backwards to watch the defensive end bearing down on J.T. O'Sullivan just as he got rid of the football, completing a 12-yard pass to Matt Jones.

Shotgun observations

  • With over nine minutes left in the game, Quan Cosby ran a seem route down the left sidelines. Hand-fighting with the cornerback down the sidelines, Cosby made a diving effort to catch a Jordan Palmer bomb for 44 yards. I've always liked Cosby. Not only does he give it his all, he has high field awareness and does everything he's asked. His departure was never an issue of talent, rather numbers. However, I've never felt as highly as I do that Cosby is closing in on being a lock for this team.
  • I really like Carlos Dunlap's potential. He's big and he's a force as a defensive end. What's more surprising is his speed and quickness. He tracked down Trent Edwards in the first half and has a blinding spin move. Dunlap had two hits on Bills quarterbacks. However, where Robert Geathers is strongest as a run defender, Dunlap is as a pass rusher. When a blocker locked in on Dunlap on running plays, he virtually disappeared.
  • Kyries Hebert played admirably, starting for the injured Roy Williams and Chinedum Ndukwe at strong safety. He played most of the game, recording five tackles.
  • When Adam Jones left the game late in the third quarter and Brandon Ghee having been carted off a few minutes earlier, the Bengals were left with Rico Murray and Jeromy Miles, both safeties, playing at cornerback.
  • Vincent Rey is a tackling machine, but most of the tackles I observed against the Bills were a few yards after the line of scrimmage.
  • Roddrick Muckelroy was much more involved and healthy against the Bills. In the team's previous three preseason games, Muckelroy had one assisted tackle. Against the Bills, he was credited with four solo tackles.
  • With 12 minutes left in the game, Geno Atkins recorded a quarterback sack, giving him 4.5 for the preseason, which includes having at least one sack per preseason game.
  • With 10 minutes left in the game, the Bengals committed their ninth penalty, giving them at least nine penalties in all four preseason games. They'd go on to commit 12 fouls.
  • On Jordan Palmer's interception that gave the Bills a 15-point lead, Palmer's intended target was Jerome Simpson, who ran a slant with Palmer thinking he'd run a hook route.
  • James Johnson had a nice 46-yard run that was wiped out by a Daniel Coats holding.

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The 54-yarder was nice but I'm still not nearly convinced that it should be Nuge.

His first kickoff was atrocious (it landed at the 10 yard line.) That one extra point split pretty wide but just barely made it. I don’t see any reason it should be either of the two, honestly.

"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison

by sexsalad on Aug 28, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Quan

passed Simpson and Jones if he had ever been behind them.

by IllinoisBengal on Aug 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the six is gonna be

Chad Ochocinco
TO
Shipley
Cosby
Simpson
Caldwell (*) unless Bryant isn’t given an injury settlement in which case Bryant.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 28, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones, Simpson, and Caldwell

have done barely more than Bryant has this preseason

by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 28, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let Simpson go

Time to move on. Apparently he ran a wrong route again and caused an interception today. After three years he doesn’t know the offense. TIme to let him go. Whether he works out for some other team or not, he is not going to work out for us.

I think we will keep Chad, TO, Shipley, Cosby, Caldwell, and Bryant.

by BonnieBengal on Aug 28, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh

Agreed. I’ve defended Simpson for the last time. It’s time that we all just come out and say what we’re thinking. For a man who’s head is as big as his, he sure is dumb.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Aug 28, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m sighing, too, because I believed that Simpson had finally gotten it. He looks like he thinks he is playing in some sort of pick-up game, and can rely on his physical skills to get by. Incredible athletic ability is all he brings to the table. IMO, Briscoe should be on the team. Briscoe is not a project and the NFL is not over his head.

by justRick on Aug 29, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A Jones

Did Adam Jones did hurt? I thought I heard that but I was listening online and lost my connection.

by BonnieBengal on Aug 28, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, he did.

His neck or somewheres around that area.

by WHYUS!! on Aug 28, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just another reason to keep Cosby.

Glad to hear all the support for Quan today. He played great and should earn his spot back on the roster.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Aug 28, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bills QB rating tonight was about 125

Ravens D gave up 9 first downs so far in almost the whole game.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 28, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

This Z-fense wasn't playing defense tonight.

I hope Zimm puts his foot where they don’t want it. He’s gotta to be mad as hell and I wouldn’t want to be in the same room as him right now.

by WHYUS!! on Aug 28, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to chalk that up to our missing safeties

I think that tonight we saw the difference that Roy Williams and Ndukwe make by them not being there.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

I picked him up on at least one of them. I have two, and I keep getting them mixed up!

by BonnieBengal on Aug 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who used to wear 84?

Perhaps, I must go through Hell to get to Heaven......................if there is one.

by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you were asking seriously, it was Housh.

If you were making an ironic statement, then I agree. :)

by Craig Conrad on Aug 29, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

or an ICONIC statement

See you guys Oct 24th!

Perhaps, I must go through Hell to get to Heaven......................if there is one.

by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dhani Jones

Defenses are targeting him and he is not able to keep up with receivers. I wonder if he will start all year.

by BonnieBengal on Aug 28, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean offenses

Ooops, I mean offenses are targeting him.

by BonnieBengal on Aug 28, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll just reply to this one..

Dhani definitely has the smarts to run the defense. But I couldn’t help but notice the same thing.. His coverage skills are worse than they were last year.

by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Aug 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's going to be a problem

he had already lost a step last year. If he’s slower yet now…

by Mr. X on Aug 29, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeh, seems time to let Maualuga start at MLB

Nothing wrong with having Dhani as a backup and giving advice to Rey.

by Doc Scratch on Aug 29, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

positive and negative

The positive….

Palmer is looking better and Owens is coming along nicely. Shipley is going to be a stud. I am also very impressed with Adam Jones, ( I will not call him pac-man for fear he may revert to that other personality). He has gone about his buisness quietly with his nose to the grindstone and has not been a distraction what so ever. So far, so good, he has done everything the right way. Lord knows I have made my mistakes and put them behind me and hopefully that is what he has done. He is still a very young man and maybe he can get it right this time.

Gresham has made some dumb rookie mistakes so far, but this guy has got the skills to pay the bills. He is going to be a monster if he can stay healthy. I am thoroughly impressed with this guy. He gets better every week. I think the pre-season has been a very valuable learning experience for him. It has given him the oppourtunity to clean up the mistakes and get ready for the season.

Now for my bitch bag….

Our defense looks like crap. I hope that they can turn it on or else we are going to have a long season. We will be back to having to outscore teams to win and we know how that goes. Not drafting a safety may come back to bite us. I am not feeling real confident with our secondary right now. We haven’t even faced a real quaterback yet. Tony Romo barely even played; Kyle Orton, Kevin Kolb, and Trent Edwards are scrubs. Throw out Kolb and we have got torched.

Can we please find a real backup quaterback? Trade them both for one good one. If we get down to the #3 quaterback we are screwed anyways. Use the roster spot for someone who can contribute. I am tired of hearing incomplete, incomplete, interception.

Nate Livings name and yellow flags are becoming synonymous. The amount of penalties are ridiculous. You can win a whole lot of games by just not beating yourself. We have beaten ourselves enough times that we ought to know this by now. Championships are not won by playing sloppy, undisciplined, football. The amount of mental errors clearly demonstrate something is wrong and it has been going on for a long time. It is clearly a demonstration of low football I.Q. Lets get it fixed!

by D-Day77 on Aug 29, 2010 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

some of the penalties are preseason ho-hum..

That being said, this is a problem that haunted us all last season. We cannot expect a SB appearance if we have over 100 yards of penalties a game.. Its getting ridiculous, this is the NFL.

Marvin, be a coach, fix it!

by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Aug 29, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

>Defense

Alright, stop yourself right there.

For one thing, you’re forgetting who the defensive coordinator is. Mike Zimmer is not the type of guy that sits down and lets things like this just go. He’ll put his foot up their asses then proceed to cut all of them before letting this become a normal event.

As for the safeties, by the end of the game, you had two safeties as CB. Our entire secondary was dinged, everyone was out. Adam Jones shouldn’t have been in as long as he was, I’m not worried about our secondary play.

Also, how are you that worried? You have Joseph, Hall, and Adam Jones as your trio. Many, many teams across the league would want that trio. Only thing to worry about are the safeties, and Roy Williams and Chris Crocker are two good ones.

Also, Orton is no scrub. He’s not the best but he’s above-average.

by Doc Scratch on Aug 29, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

JJ, Hall and Pacman...

I think the only team in the league who WOULDN’T want that trio over what they have might be the Jets. And that’s only if it works out with Revis.

"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison

by sexsalad on Aug 29, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Kolb is no scrub either. I’m pretty sure he threw for over 300 yds in back to back starts last year or the one before.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Aug 29, 2010 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Injury Update?

I had heard that a number of players got hurt in the game—Dunlap, Pacman, Ghee. Any updates on these or others? I didn’t get to see the game.

Oh and KEEP QUAN!

by Anthony Cosenza on Aug 29, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah,

Ghee knocked himself out with a vicious hit on RB Simpson and Adam Jones hurt his neck or somewheres around that area. (Strained muscle I think) I don’t know about Dunlap and Reggie Stephens hurt his ankle when somebody rolled up on it. He was taken out of the game, but came back in and played some more. So that injury doesn’t look significant.

by WHYUS!! on Aug 29, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

bengals release Bryant.
#bengals release Antonio Bryant, Mike Windt. Gibril Wilson placed on IR

joe reedy.

by agoody117 on Aug 29, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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