Rashad Jeanty's Agent Blasts Bengals Medical Staff
With fans already steaming and suspicious over the catch-and-release of WR Antonio Bryant, the Cincinnati Bengals' beleaguered medical staff took another blow today when the agent for LB Rashad Jeanty, released this afternoon, blamed the situation on a poor diagnosis by the Bengals.
On the opening kickoff of the Bengals Jan. 9 playoff loss to Jets, Jeanty fractured his left fibula in a freak play. The team’s medical staff told Jeanty that he would not have to have surgery. Two months later, when Jeanty, who was a restricted free agent, visited the Miami Dolphins he failed a physical and was told by that team’s medical staff he needed significant ankle surgery to stabilize the leg. There was also ligament damage in the leg.
Jeanty signed his one-year tender worth $1.176 million from the Bengals shortly thereafter and had surgery on March 31.
"It’s tremendously disappointing on the way this has been handled," [Jeanty’s agent, David] Canter said. "We don’t see how the Cincinnati Bengals can do this without any inclination that this was even a possibility. It’s a tad shocking how he was released and was done in a disheartening, callous and unfair manner. The only reason why he isn’t healthy and wasn’t able to pass the physical is because they failed to fully diagnose and mistreated the injury."
The Bengals medical staff has come under fire before. RB Chris Perry missed most of his rookie season after a sports hernia was initially misdiagnosed as an abdominal strain.
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by palewook on Aug 30, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice one...
These freakin idiots should have their license pulled. I don’t care if Mikey Boy is cheap on his medical staff, they are still Doctors and should do their jobs the way they are expected to. Peoples livelihoods are at stake here. If they are this quacky, then why in the hell aren’t they fired. Roger GODdell should look into this. I am in favor of the players, on this one.
And by no means am I sticking up for Mikey Boy. He’s at fault too.
My question is?
Why the flying f..k has nobody from the medical staff been fired?
by jimbasa on Aug 30, 2010 7:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
RE:
You would have to think Mike would be incline to do so… They are now causing giant holes in his pocket due to there incompetency ..
by JamesShively on Aug 30, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Converted
He converted one of the DB’s to a Doctor to save a few bucks
by BrothersOfThunder on Aug 30, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+2000
Im still mad Tebow isn’t here playing LB.
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Aug 30, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait One Minute My Friend
Players are allowed to get 2nd opinions,the team doesnt say its our way or the highway,players and their agents also cant be as stupid and go on team doctors opinions only,so crying now after you got cut doesnt account for anything more than you cant make the team from the tub,period.
That's certainly true...
…and if Jeanty didn’t get a second opinion, then he was foolish. But that doesn’t change the allegation that the Bengals (on) crack med staff flubbed it up again.
Yes, but if the player is injured they can’t be just cut, they have to be waived injured and if they are not claimed then they go on IR and get their full salary for the year.
Mike is trying to be cheap and they are calling him out on it.
That is a chicken [ ] play if you ask me.
The right process needs to be honored, not cutting an injuried A+ player to keep cash when he is obviously obligation to salary AND due to the fact that medical staff misdiagnosed his injury. They wasted cash and a good player for a meaningless season. Seems like your front end is really enjoying the CAPLESS year. And I’m not trying to bash yall or put CIncy down, I was really hoping AB was gonna do wonders for yall.
player can get a second opinion, but...
It’s not a level playing field. Carson has gotten sh#@ from the team for not using the their medical advise. Remember Tommy Johns Surgery they said he had to have? Pop quiz. What team doctor did he turn to after the knee? none. My point isthis, if the highest paid, most entrenched guy on the team gets crap for dismissing the medical staff, Rashad would have a harder time.
Where there is smoke there is fire. I tend to side with Carson. Something is not right with the team doctors.
by steve whodey on Aug 30, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Perry and Jeanty aren't the first.
Levi Jones complained about them, back in 2007 I think. And there were allegations regarding Peter Warrick’s deteriorating knee back in 2003 — though I don’t think it was from Peter or his agent, IIRC.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 30, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
Didnt Levi
get animal fat injections into his knee? Whos our doctor, Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies??
Civil War Surgeons
LOL Primal! Here in Richmond, VA, elementary school kids take field trips to the Cold Harbor and Gaines Mill Civil War battlefields. The Park Service guides describe the medical procedures in 1862-1864, and amputation was common. I’m not saying the Bengals medical staff is that bad…I’m just saying…
by DixieBengalfan on Aug 30, 2010 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup. Its been an ongoing issue
I remember an ESPN poll of NFL players back circa 2000 (+/- a couple years) asking them how they felt about their team’s medical staff and the Bengals were dead last by a wide margin. I can’t find the story anymore, maybe someone with better google-fu can dig it up. Somewhere around 2005 I did dig it up for a forum debate and compared the Bengals’ med staff listed in the annual then to that years and like three of the five docs were still the same.
AH! Found it!
From 2002:
http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2002/0912/1431170.html
Percentage of players rating their medical staff good or better (from a 200 players assn survey):
31: Arizona – 50%
32: Bengals – 19%
In 2000, the Bengals’ media guide listed 5 team docs: Angelo Colosimo, Jeff Craig, Robert Heidt Jr., Ed Jung, and Walter Timperman. Don’t know if any are left.
Per the Bengals 2010 media guide...
the team docs are:
Angelo Colosimo, Robert Heidt Jr., Ed Jung, Gerard Kortekamp
Draw your own conclusions.
Wow!
19% from the Cardinals 50%. That is a far jump. What about Kenny Irons? Did they screw his knee up like Chris Perry? Makes you wonder.
Maybe they screwed up Dan Coats’ hands too..
It's not like the Bengals front office doesn't know.
Remember back in late January Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis said that they were “concerned with the club-record list of players on injured reserve this past season and the team plans to examine the issue.”
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2009/1/29/739943/bengals-are-going-to-addre
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by Josh Kirkendall on Aug 30, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Josh, great archive! I’ve often questioned our Strength & Conditioning, which, to me, is separate from the medical side. We have coaches for Strength & Conditioning and doctors for the diagnosis. The number of injuries we have had over the last several years ( consecutive years ) is suspicious. There is such a thing as too many coincidences for it to be just a coincidence. Are they not doing enough to get the players ready.. or are they doing too much and actually making their bodies structurally weaker? Injuries, with us, are not rare occurrences. Why is that?
I think this is all BS
Everyman is responsible for his own health. You are a millionaire if you have any brains. If you don’t have an independant physician of your own choosing oversee and major health issues you are simply stupid. I was diagnosed with Relapsing Remitting MS and was prescribed a relatively intrusive treatment. I went out and got a second opinion. I did the right thing. If you let anyone subvert your own health plan you get what you get. Maybe the Bengals medical staff are incompetent, I don’t know. What I do know is that ultimately a man’s health is his own responsibility.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
true.. but they are also giving daily treatment to players.
Why wouldn’t we want the best?
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Aug 30, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I decidied to administer a bit of self discipline
I felt a though I failed in my responsibility as a poster when I allowed myself to get too involved in personal attacks I was out of line. My last posts were on July 30 and I administered a 30 suspension to myself. I have been reading everyone’s posts regularly and I do have some opinions but it doesn’t matter what I post if my opinions aren’t fact based and credible.
Yes 80% we should get the best we can but would you have a foot amputated on the say so of one doctor? I wouldn’t either. You and only you are responsibel for making sure you take care of your own health. Jeanty, Warrick, Levi all had agents who, like this guy, should have been looking out for their clients from whom they make million. Maybe, just maybe, Jeanty’s agent should have been making some phone calls to the best in the business and get their client top notch care. Maybe, just maybe, they should get off of their yacht of off the golf course and be the a bit more proactive concerning the welfare of their players. Why is everything always someone elses responsibility and fault. How about someone saying "Hey, I blew it. I should have taken the time to get a second or third opinion. This is my responsibility and it is my fault. That is what real men do.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Dang computer
I betcha it took a lot of discipline not to post. You being a frequent poster and a diehard fan and all.
I am a former Airborne Ranger and Drill Sgt as well as a businessman
Discipline is a way of life for me. But, you are right – it was hard.
But a lot has happened over the last month and I do have a lot of opinions awaiting the proper forum.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
JJ:
…and getting the diagnosis right the first time is what a real medical staff should do. As other posters pointed out, there are consequences to disregarding the medical staff as you suggest. Besides, if players are just going to go out and get their own treatment (unprecedented in the big-4 sports world) what’s the point of even having a medical staff?
First of all no medical staff can be depended on to always get it right the first time
Second, what consequences could be worse than having your career ruined by a misdiagnosis? I know several doctors, I have several doctors, none of them had any problem, in fact they were cooperative and eager for me to get a second opinion. It can save them law suits to have someone check their work. If they balk at the idea I would simply discard them as they are not to be trusted. I wouldn’t care if MB personally got involved. I would take responsibility for it myself. Carson did it and Jeanty and Levi could have done the same thing. They were either too lazy, stupid or irresponsible to handle it the way they should have.
Third, this existing medical staff takes care of many minor to moderately serious conditions on a routine basis. The preliminary diagnosis of potentially serious injuries are best handled immediately under the supervision of an on the spot medical team. Further diagnosis and decisions as to what proceedure should be done can in most cases wait until further investigation and different opinions can be evaluated.
All of this crying about how “the Bengals medical staff misdiagnosed me” is just a case of irresponsibility by both the player and his agent. Is it cheaper just to have the Bengals handle it? Yea but only if you would trust the opinion of one doctor to do a serious proceedure. If my multimillion dollar career depended on my knee I sure wouldn’t trust any one guy with it’s treatment. That would be stupid for me to do just like it was stupid for Levi and Jeanty. Expecially in light of the fact that it had happened before. Like I said stupid people get what they get.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Then doesn't the same argument applyt to the Bengals?
You said “if my multimillion dollar career depended on my knee I sure wouldn’t trust any one guy with it’s treatment. That would be stupid…” Well, the Bengals have a multi-million dollar investment in AB – should they trust one guy (who didn’t even run a friggin’ MRI) before giving him a guaranteed $8 million?
Also, you said, “in fact they were cooperative and eager for me to get a second opinion…If they balk at the idea I would simply discard them as they are not to be trusted.” Again, as others have pointed out (see Carson Palmer) the Bengals aren’t cooperative when players seek second opinions, and the players can’t simply “discard” the medical staff. That’s what Mike Brown should be doing.
You are right driff and that mistake cost MB 8+ million dollars of HIS money
He paid the price – we didn’t. Hey, I wanted Boldin all along. If I were MB heads would roll. It isn’t like the chief medical guy is his son in law or something. I am not arguing that the med staff needs to be the best we can make it or that changes shouldn’t be made but we are all making the assumption that with a different diagnosis all of these guys would be fine. We have no evidence of that at all that I have seen. Believe me, if it could be proven there would be some major litigation. The absence of court action leads me to believe that much of this is pure speculation with a sprinkling of sour grapes.
Another point would be that nobody on this board will lose any credibility if they simply blame MB. That only comes if you ever defend him..If you want someone to rec your post just include “it is MB’s fault” and it is a pretty sure thing.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
I might also add
We ended up pretty well with Chad, TO, Shlpley and Gresham as our primaries. I am not sure Bryant would break into that lineup anyway.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Yeah like Mike Brown taking responsibility..
and saying “Hey Guys! I make bad decisions, I messed up.” I wish he had that type of personal accountability.
Don, you are suffering under the delusion that MB owes anyone any apologies.
It is his money, his team and his decision. He doesn’t care what we think and I am not too sure he should. It is his life and only our entertainment. He has zero responsibilities or accountability to us. Ignoring the fan base may prove bad for business but after 20 dismal years we are still here aren’t we? We don’t have to like it we just have to deal with it if we want to be Bengals fans. MB is not going anywhere until he dies and then we get 30+ years of Katie. Kinda sucks being us don’t it.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
This isn't a new problem (from a Buc's stand point)
1. Palmer busts his (knee?) and gets a second opinion. He’s bashed by the front office.
2. Cincy’s medical staff takes AB’s word. over a 26m contract. Look how that played out.
3. Jeanty obviously had a misdiagnosis and now keeps an A+ LB outta the game for who knows how long.
This seems to be an ongoing problem for you guys. The owner and GM need to clean house on your medical staff… BTW, DOESNT CINCY have a #1 rated Hospital in all of America? I mean TOP #1 HOSPITAL, over vanderbilt lol.
Mike Brown has a GM
it’s a 1993 Olds Cutlass Ciera. I just sold it to him. Low miles, just a little rusty.
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by UpStateMike on Aug 31, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bryant has a bone on bone issue…his career most likely is over, unless he can withstand the pain of playing with that condition. Speculation is his is he took a cortisone shot in he knee when the bengals worked him out…they were in desperate need for help in the passing game and took a chance. An MRI to detect the lack of tissue would have been a smart move…they made a mistake, which is water under the bridge at this point…so I believe outright releasing him was smart….now he won’t take a roster spot from Cosby or Simpson/Jones.
by Bdub14 on Aug 30, 2010 9:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No MRI
You’re shelling out 8 million up front, and you can’t even pay for an MRI? Even my crappy health insurance HMO covered and MRI when I fell off my bike a couple months ago. It’ll be water under the bridge when the person responsible loses their job as they should.
Speaking as someone in health care
First of all, this post is not meant to condone the care that is present/available to Bengals’ players, but I will say as someone that has experience in high end health care that Cincinnati is a dismal market for health care in general. The hospital systems are all decentralized and of the “community hospital” type, which does not attract high end specialties. There is no academic market to speak of – only UC, which is not overwhelming – so there is no high end research that would attract academically-oriented specialists. And the extremely high cost of malpractice insurance coupled with abysmal insurance rate returns does not encourage people to set up shop in Cincinnati. And of course there is the de-centralization of the city itself, but that’s a different issue.
I do believe, however, it is a moot point. The staff on site may be under-qualified to provide high-end opinions, particularly involving more complicated sports injuries. They might not make referrals or the proper recommendations to seek further care, and that coupled with players’ desires to man up and get back on the field cause way too many problems.
If the Bengals encouraged a safety first, cautious approach to diagnosis and evaluation, they would probably save themselves loads on replacement players and disgruntlement, not to mention playing time.
Why
Is everyone talking about Cincinnati’s hospital market when this is not the issue,a player can go anyplace in the world for that matter for a 2nd opinion,it doesnt matter where your at,its solely the responsibilty of the player,hey,its a business,the players health is his and his alone to take care of his business,if you had a business and you didnt like the opinion,do you just listen to one person or do whatever it takes to get the best opinion that you can get to decide what steps are next to be taken,its hard enough to get cut,but really,whos fault was it in the first place,surely you didnt say “Im hurt and the Bengals medical staff was the only opinion that I went by”?
Player's responsiblility?
If I’m investing millions in that player (millions I could have spent on a practice facility) I’m going to make damn sure he’s taken care of properly. I’m not going to take the player’s word for it, or let him take care of his own treatment.
drift, seeing that a player is taken care of properly means getting a second opinion
from an objective source. I would, as an player give you the right to have you medical staff review the second opinion if it differs from your theirs where upon I would go to at least get one more and if necessary I would continue until I could find a consensus. If you truly want to protect your investment I cannot understand how you could see that as a bad thing. Carson it seems did it right. As an employer you signed me to play you didn’t by me lock stock and barrel. My body is still mine.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
And Carson took a lot of grief from the front office for doing it
Franchise players might not have his degree of independence.
Men take responsibility
If you are not man enough to take the grief or smart enough to do the right thing – well like I said – you get what you get. Levi and Jeanty didn’t and what did they get? Unemployed. There is no crying in football either.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
That's it!
For now on every player that gets hurt shall revert to a 2nd opinion. Easy solution.
It’s settled now…
Reds
Don’t the Reds have a good medical staff? Maybe they can lone the Bengals a couple Doc’s
Mike Brown wouldn't go halvesies on an indoor practice facility with UC,
I doubt he’d do so with Kremcheck and the Reds either.
by Craig Conrad on Aug 31, 2010 12:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I posted similar sentiments about the Bengals medical staff yesterday
I’m just surprised you all are now commenting about it now.
The Bengals medical staff is to blame
After reading the PFT article, it’s really disconcerting that the Bengals medical staff is very poor.
" Even if Bryant was injured when he signed with the team (apparently, the same doctors who recommended Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees to the Dolphins in 2006 now work for the Bengals), a player cannot be cut without compensation if he is injured. And so an arbitration proceeding could be held to determine the amount of money that the Bengals owe Bryant, based on the number of weeks that pass until he can pass a physical with a new team."
I’ve always had my reservations about their team doctors. I remember reading somewhere that when Carson tore his ACL in 2005, he didn’t trust the Bengals medical staff and sought opinions outside of the Bengals organization. This just adds to my belief that medical staff of the Bengals are inept. My sister is a great and accomplished physician and I guarantee she would do a better job than these fools.
by sgiridharan1982 on Aug 31, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
Are they to blame for misdiagnosing the seriousness of Bryant's injury?
Yes, and MB lost million with the mistake. This staff has treated literally hundreds of injuries and all but a few have healed right on time. Who is to say that Bryant, Levi or Jeanty would have healed any better under any other medical care? Injuries happen all the time and players lose time and sometimes their careers on every team. Odom is back on time. Malaluga is back on schedule, Reggie is back on schedule, Tanks foot seems fine. JJ’s foot seems fine.Benson came back quickly, Rivers is fine, Peko is fine. This staff is no better or worse than all but a few in the league.
You guys all act like if you were in MB’s position this team would be perennial SB champs and with many of the opinions I see expressed there is a lot of evidence to the contrary. It is fun to pass around opinions, that is what this board is all about. But, these guys do this for a living. MB knows a lot more about football than just about everyone here. Unless of course you grew up in the house with and understudied with a hall of fame football coach. Unless you have a law degree from Harvard or it’s equivalent you are possibly not smarter than him either. BTW Sam Walton the billionaire founder of Walmart drove a 77 Ford pickup truck till the day he died. MB’s biggest fault is something that could easily be considered a good quality – he shows extreme loyalty and sometimes he get taken advantage of.
Okay, I have defended MB. Let the Crucifixion begin.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
It's apparent that Mike Brown knows
how to hire medical personnel as well as he knows how to hire offensive coordinators, guys named Shula, and scouts.
I guess we’re lucky none of his sons or daughters in law are medical doctors or close enough that they could sub.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Aug 31, 2010 1:52 AM EDT reply actions
While I agree with 2nd opinions being an option
Surely there is a “Duty of Care” on the Bengals to provide a high level of medical expertise for their employee’s in this case the players. Jeanty strikes me as a classy guy and doesnt sound like someone to have “sour grapes” after all the knocks he has been through.
There is too much of a correlation on the mismanagement of injuries;Chris Perry and Levi Jones spring to mind,but you also have to figure Carson going outside the organisation,Willie Andersons foot,Carson’s elbow, Kenny Irons failure to recover from the Knee injury etc. This will give players pause before signing with Cincy.
I'm a family doc in Centerville
and if I were the “team doc”, I would have specialists lined up to see these guys for second and third opinions, multimillion dollar decisions like this should not be made by one doc or one group of docs alone, I bet if you would look at other teams with good ratings for healthcare, that is how they do it, “spread the wealth” as they say
I f you were injured at work, would you trust the company medical staff or go to your own doctor? I’m not letting el cheapo MB off the hook as his staff is a discrase to pro sports but as a high paid athlete who depends on their health, I would not just go with what the team docs say, especially when they already carry such a bad rep.
Good Doctors Save Money
Just like any of us average folks keeping up with exams saves money by getting diagnoses early and doing preventive care, Mike needs to hire quality medical staffers and have specialists ready to see players. A misdiagnosis and lack of follow-through saves a little on the front end but costs a lot more later. Even if their expenses are high, the money is obviously not going to the right people.
treat it with robitussin
(1) dampen a cloth in robitussin
(2) apply to affected area
(3) walk off the pain.
if pain persists longer than 4 weeks, release the player and recommend a real physician.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

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