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INDIANAPOLIS - SEPTEMBER 02:  Marvin Lewis the Head Coach of the Cincinnati Bengals watches from the sidelines during the NFL preseason game against the Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium on September 2 2010 in Indianapolis Indiana.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

No championship caliber NFL team ever did anything great by dwelling on a tough loss instead of focusing on their next game and the Bengals should be no different. That's not to say that they shouldn't learn from the mistakes they made against New England. Learning from those mistakes will, hopefully help the Bengals play better against a very good Ravens team that is undoubtedly looking to get some revenge against the Bengals. After watching the Ravens play an overrated New York Jets team last night, I came to realize that this Ravens team is just as good as they always have been and they've added some extra fire power in the form of Anquan Boldin and T.J. Houshmandzadeh.

Let's see how the Ravens stack up against the Bengals compared to how the Patriots did.

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Quarterback: Joe Flacco versus Tom Brady

Brady looked great, like he has for the bulk of his career. He proved, against the Bengals unfortunately, that when he has time to throw, he can tear a secondary apart, no matter how good they are. Joe Flacco showed his lack of experience last night against the Jets defense. When Flacco can't find an open receiver or he's under pressure, he can hold on to the ball until it's too late, like in the Ravens first play in which Flacco was sacked and fumbled the ball, or he can make a poor decision, throwing the ball up for grabs.

Winner: Tom Brady.... by a lot.

What the Bengals need to do:

If the Jets did the Bengals a favor last night, it was showing exactly what to do to the Ravens offense on obvious passing downs and that is to bring the house. The Jets sent all of their linebackers after the quarterback on more than one occasion and for much of the game, Joe Flacco was either on his back or running for his life. Like most quarterbacks, Flacco didn't bother to throw the ball Derrelle Revis' way. Instead he chose to pick on Antonio Cromartie who had a hard time in coverage and ended up giving the Ravens a lot of yards in the form of more than one pass interference penalties. The Bengals have two solid cornerbacks in Jonathan Joseph and Leon Hall. If Flacco is constantly under pressure on Sunday, and I hope he is, it would be a costly mistake to pick a corner to "pick on".

Baltimore Running Game versus Patriots Running Game

The previously fourth ranked defense in the NFL made the Patriots sub-par running game look a lot less sub and a lot more par. If those mistakes aren't corrected before the Ravens roll into the Queen City, Ray Rice could make the Bengals run defense look even worse.

Winner: Ravens Running Game

What the Bengals need to do:

Ray Rice is like a miniature running back that you can fit in your pocket. When he stands in the huddle, it looks like it's bring your kids to work day for the Ravens but, like they say, good things come in small packages and Ray Rice is a good thing... at least for the Ravens. His size gives him leverage and enables him to get "lost" as he busts through the line and then suddenly appear as he's flying past the linebackers. The key to stopping Ray Rice is two fold. One way is to get tough on the defensive line and make sure the defensive ends are always containing Rice... good old fundamental football. The other way is to force the Ravens offense to play catchup. If the Bengals can get up a couple scores early, it will force the Ravens to start passing more and running less.

Baltimore Receivers versus Patriots Receivers

Randy Moss has a wall reserved in Canton and Wes Welker could easily find himself there one day as well. Anquan Boldin is a great and tough wide receiver but he isn't Randy Moss. Houshmandzadeh and Welker are different kinds of receivers but we all know what Housh can do when he's opposite a good no. 1 receiver.

Winner: Patriots Receivers

What the Bengals need to do:

I don't care if your cornerbacks are Revis and a young Deion Sanders, they can't completely shut out Boldin and Houshmandzadeh all day long without allowing a single catch. Joseph and Hall are good enough to cover both of these guys alone for most of the game but there will be breakdowns in coverage eventually, especially if Joe Flacco can sit in the pocket for 20 minutes like Brady could. A major key here is going to be making sure that Flacco knows that he has to make his decisions quick or end up on the bottom of a pile. The defensive line has got to play much better and it would be nice to see some Rex Ryanish blitz packages every once in a while. I have faith that Joseph and Hall can be left out on an island and be okay.

Ravens Defense versus Patriots Defense

The Patriots defense played well against the Bengals and while they only sacked Carson Palmer once, they definitely had him on his back a few times. While the Ravens defense made the Jets offense look absolutely terrible last night, I'm not completely convinced that the Jets had a very good offense to begin with. I wonder if they miss Thomas Jones yet?

Winner: Ravens Defense

What the Bengals need to do:

Ray Lewis is a hall of famer already. There is no question about it. If the guy has lost a step over the years, he's made up for it by knowing where to be at all times. Like Lewis, the entire Ravens defense is tough. They are always going to be one of the top defenses in the league along with the Pittsburgh Steelers. However, this is also the same Baltimore defense that the Bengals had had to endure for a long time. The Bengals already know that Haloti Ngata is a force to be reckoned with on the defensive line. They already know that Ray Lewis controls the middle of the field and they already know that Terrell Suggs has a talent for getting to the quarterback. The biggest difference between this season and other seasons is the lack of Ed Reed in the secondary. If you reverse things, you realize that this is not the same Bengals offense that the Ravens are used to. They haven't had to deal with Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens and Jordan Shipley. They haven't had to worry about a pass catching tight end. They haven't had to worry about those things combined with Cedric Benson and Bernard Scott. They made the Jets look bad but the Bengals aren't the Jets. Just like in any game, the Bengals need to protect Carson Palmer and know that the Ravens are going to send pressure from all angles. If they can do that, one of the receivers will get open and if they do, Palmer will find them. Once that happens and the Ravens are moving backwards, the game magically opens up for Benson and Scott. Basically, the Bengals need to look the way they did in the second half of the Patriots game for a full hour of play instead of 30 minutes.

I didn't say anything here that you didn't already know. Maybe this whole post was a way to make myself feel better after a tough opening weekend loss. Maybe I just needed to remember that we aren't a bad team, we're just a team finding it's way through an extremely tough schedule. No matter the reason, I know that the Bengals are just as capable of beating the Baltimore Ravens as they are of beating themselves. Last year, they bounced back after a freak loss against the Denver Broncos. They are just as capable of doing the same  thing this year. I hope they do and I know that you do too.

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The Jets’ lack of offense was split between the good Ravens’ defense and the poor, poor, POOR throwing ability of Mark Sanchez. Any defense can look good against Sanchez—except possible ours because the screen pass and the TE kill us, two things that the Jets do well.

by Doc Scratch on Sep 14, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you watch the game last night Jason Harrison?

1. Flacco never threw a ball up for grabs. His ONE interception occurred because Boldin blew his route and failed to shift the coverage away from the corner of the field.
2. You fail to mention Derek Mason when you speak of the ravens receivers. Please tell me how the Bengals are going to cover Boldin, Mason, Housh, and Heap if they line up 4 wide?
3. Yes, the Jets did bring the house and with the first play for the Raven’s being the exception (Sac, Fumble) the Ravens picked up the Jets blitz all night long even with Gaither and Cousins out at right tackle.

The Bengals D is going to have a very hard time against the Ravens and vice versa the Bengals O will be hard pressed to put up points on the Ravens. RAVENS 28-10

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 14, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

you care to back that up?

didn’t think so. Just keep telling yourself everything will be fine come Sunday.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 14, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can't back it up

Talk is cheap, and we all saw just how cheap in Bradyland.

by TheShadow on Sep 14, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What am I suppose to be backing up?

Ravens 2009 victories
Chiefs, Chargers, Browns, Broncos, Browns, Steelers, Lions, Bears, Raiders
You beat 1 Playoff team other then NE in the playoffs
Bengals 2009 Victories
Packers, Steelers, Browns, Ravens, Bears, Ravens, Steelers, Browns, Lions, Chiefs
We beat 1 Playoff team and swept you. This was with a nonexistent passing game. If you count each game we played you separately we had 3 victories over playoff teams and you had 2.
The fact that you think your team is going to dominate is quite funny. I’m not saying we are definitely going to beat you but I don’t understand how you think your going to dominate us? I believe the last time you did actually dominate us was when Carson Palmer was out for the year.

by Diesel2405 on Sep 15, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you watch the game last night lets be realistic here.

The ravens O looked almost as gross as the jets O did. Lets not forget that palmer knows how to carve up some bird for dinner. I dont think the ravens can score 28 points without any D on the field.

by bengalinflorida on Sep 14, 2010 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Flacco looked good. Cincy’s D is nowhere near as good as the Jet’s D. Carson will be pressured all day long with a much improved Raven’s pass rush. Raven’s will easily put up 28.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 14, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Carson dominates the Ravens...

and the Bengals aren’t intimidated by Ray Ray and his crew. Moreover, y’all were hit hard and hit often by a good Jets squad and will have to face a very-pissed off Bengals team coming off a short week. Go ahead and overlook a team that swept you last year. Things will work themselves out on Sunday.

"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius

by TarZander on Sep 14, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carson, Carson, Carson.....

Carson owns the Ravens…..Is that the only rebuttal you have? I’ve got news for you, the Ravens swept the bengals in ’08. So just because the bengals are “very pissed off” there suddenly going to be able to overcome being blown out by Patriots?

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 14, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carson only played 3 1/2 games in 08. I think we have won 5 of the last 8

But I will agree that the Ravens look like a tough nut to crack. I am not concerned with 08 or 09 or even last weekend. You play, you learn and you go out and play the next game. The best team that day will win. I will only say, don’t sleep on the Bengals either. There is a very good chance that the Pats game will be by far the worse game we play all year. I am not saying we will beat you. I am saying we will be there and we will see what we will see.

Bengals fans here of any where else should remember that a hen doesn’t cackle until after the egg is laid.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Sep 14, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

swept in 08 u say

i dont think carson played u in 08 he was hurt dumb ass and i think his record against the birds is like 10 wins 3 loses

by darth zalmer on Sep 15, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

swept in 08 u say

i dont think carson played u in 08 he was hurt dumb ass and i think his record against the birds is like 10 wins 3 loses

by darth zalmer on Sep 15, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flacco looked good.

Uh-huh. Take off the homer glasses there. He looked OK, maybe. He certainly didn’t look terrible or anything. But good? No. Not that.

by FriarBob on Sep 14, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

One think I never understood about Ravens fans

Maybe you can help me out shadow. To me and most Bengals fans I know the Bengals are a football team we root for. Nothing more. Ravens fans seem to think that they personally are better than everyone else when their team wins. You guys seem to pound your chest like you personally made the tackle or threw the pass. Unless you are a player I can tell you, you are just a guy, nothing special. You are just fans of the guys who do the playing – you aren’t one of them. I just wanted to let you know that – just in case you were suffering from some delusion. I can understand rooting for a team but they don’t make you personally and better or worse. You get all hyped up and abandon all sense of class in the process. I am not just picking on you – most Ravens fans are the same.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Sep 14, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll help you out.....

I don’t see any Ravens fan in here beating their chests. All I see are a bunch of Bengals fans who cant back up their rediculous predictions. They sound just like the Jet’s fans from the week before. No football Knowledge…. just a bunch of useless garbage. Im not just picking on you…most Bengals fans are the same.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 14, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

So does this mean you’re a Ravens fan that just hangs out on CJ to talk some crap? That’s what it sounds like to me…. and it’s Jason Garrison…. not Harrison

by Jason Garrison on Sep 14, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not hanging out, was directed to this site to read an article. I ended up reading this garbage of an article and decided to leave a comment that stated the facts since you couldn’t seem to get them straight. Like I said before all Bengals fans are the same, but im not going to back down from your responses.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Well You Can Go Away Any Time

Right now you are just a troll, and not a very good one, so go away. This is a site for Bengals fans, so guess what, you are going to read pro Bengal articles. You are going to read articles by fans who are going to look for reason to hope. It is not a slight on the Ravens that we are going to root for our team. If you don’t like it, leave. You don’t have to crap here, because that is all that you have brought to this site, crap, but then you are a Raven’s fan so I can’t expect much else.

Now be an adult and just go.

by DCBengalFan on Sep 15, 2010 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

No....I Like it here

“look for reasons to hope” that’s all you have is a hope and a prayer. I bring facts, it’s you who brings the crap. And you will be eating that crap Sunday around 4pm.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

We think the same thing about all ravens fans. Exactly what have you backed up with your talk? What happened the last two times we played you? You beat the jets and you think you won the superbowl. Last time I checked the bengals are afc north champs. What are you?

by lbacker2179 on Sep 15, 2010 6:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who are we?

Well….the Raven’s actually win playoff games. When is the last time the bengals won a playoff game? Had back to back winning seasons? Keep holding on to that AFC North Champs for now because that’s all you have.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

Go home. Nobody wants to hear your rants and BS. What facts did you bring to this article? Nothing but conjecture. This article was expressing what needs to happen for the Bengals to beat the Ravens this week. You were directed by some other schmuch that is scared of a repeat of last year and you share the same fears so you come in here just to post… can’t even call it smack… it’s just pure rubbish. The Ravens may very well win, but if the Bengals win, either we won’t see you over here again or you’ll be back blaming the refs… yet again…

Just go away and post your penny ante thoughts on your own blog

by Oregonbengalsfan on Sep 15, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Dude", "Schmuck"

Scared of a repeat? The Bengals aren’t striking fear in anybody so far. If anything I’m sure Bengals fans are the ones who are afraid because they know they cant follow up a winning season with another winning season. I don’t really care what you want to hear. As long as you keep responding to me I will respond to you. i don’t back down,

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh... in case you missed it, here are the facts I posted

1. Flacco never threw a ball up for grabs. His ONE interception occurred because Boldin blew his route and failed to shift the coverage away from the corner of the field.
2. You fail to mention Derek Mason when you speak of the ravens receivers. Please tell me how the Bengals are going to cover Boldin, Mason, Housh, and Heap if they line up 4 wide?
3. Yes, the Jets did bring the house and with the first play for the Raven’s being the exception (Sac, Fumble) the Ravens picked up the Jets blitz all night long even with Gaither and Cousins out at right tackle.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Facts

1. Cromartie came from behind and to the left of Boldin, jumping in front of him to snag the pass.
2. Because Mason isn’t worth mentioning
3. Flacco was hurried and hit all night.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Sep 15, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Through the eyes of......

Someone who knows nothing about the game. Denial is the first sign that you have a problem.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Denial is the first sign that you have a problem.

Exactly, so you should seek help

You should watch the game again cause you’ll see exactly what I pointed out

by Oregonbengalsfan on Sep 15, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Need for that

I don’t see things through orange colored glasses like you do.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odom

That has nothing to do with it… really Carlos Dunlap if healthy fills in just fine for Odom. You may laugh at that, but He was a beast in the preseason. The man is mean on the line.

by joecincy07 on Sep 15, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing to do with what?

I’m just asking a simple question. Don’t get your bengal striped panties in a bunch.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No bunches here.

And im simply giving you an answer, im not even upset. i think your ridiculous for even running your mouth on a site full of stripes. I mean “Let’s Be Realistic Here!” you dont know enough about the game or your team to even know how to spell your longest tenured WR name. Small argument? Maybe, but it certainly does tarnish your credibility enough for no one to truly care what you have to say.

by joecincy07 on Sep 15, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

dereck, derrick derek....

Who really cares. I cant spell housh#$&*@($( either. You obviously care enough about what I have to say because you keep responding. Like I said I dont back down. I’ll run my mouth anywhere I damn well please. The Bengals as a team are just as scared as their fans about playing the Ravens. I’m even thinking about making the trip to Cincy to see the Ravens punch the Bengals in the mouth live in person. Should be easy seeing that the game’s not even sold out yet.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Houshmanzadeh

I don’t see why everyone thinks that is so hard to spell. Anyways, to answer your question below, I was just outside of the locker room. I get media “privileges” every practice and game due to certain connections to insiders that I have, but good try. Anyways, you are bias, i am bias, so really it is always going to be a standstill, with no one backing down, especially not to some loser who finds erotic pleasure in going to an opposing team’s blogging site to talk trash to its fans. I leave you to your hand and mouth to do all the talkin and playin with yourself that you want.

by joecincy07 on Sep 15, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense.....

Obviously they will give any idiot in Cincy “media privileges” Only someone like yourself would try to turn football talk into something sexual. Your sick!

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually it looks like it was prescription medications

from when he was sick and healing from his injury. Don’t know the whole story yet so not sure. He may not even be suspended. And no you weren’t asking a simple question as you stated to joecincy, or else you would have just asked “Will Odom be suspended?” You turned a simple question into an antagonistic question by calling him a cheater.

Oh and back to the earlier topic of the game. I think if the Jets had played better and not gotten all those penalties (especially the roughing the kicker that set the Ravens up for their only touchdown) the Jets would have taken it.

As for your not backing down. That’s great, however you are now degrading (well not so much degrading since you started out your comments in an antagonistic way) to childish remarks to see what reaction you get. If you were stating facts that had any substantiating evidence (ie. game tape, stats, etc) then not backing down is commendable. But you are just here to talk trash, so I’ll not feed the troll any longer.

As I mentioned above, if the Bengals come out like we believe and play some real football after last week’s embarrassment and beat the Ravens you’ll be gone… or complaining about refs making bad calls on the ravens or not making calls on the Bengals.

by Oregonbengalsfan on Sep 15, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

O.K. Bud

There is no clause in the NFL’s policy that allow players to take prescription medication that contains banned elements.

I’ve posted plenty of facts, you just choose to ignore them. If the Jets had played better? Really? This your argument after asking me for facts. Yeah and if I could ride a rocket powered Raven I could blow up Saturn.

If the Bengals come out like they played last week, there going to get smoked. I wont be gone after the game win or lose. I like it here, I’ll think I’m moving in permanently. I like how you assume Ill complain about the refs. Your the childish one

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bengals RE Antwan Odom expects to avoid his suspension because the element he is being suspended for is contained in a medicine he is prescribed.
ProfootballTalk.com disputes Odom’s optimism, as there is no clause in the NFL’s policy that allow players to take prescription medication that contains banned elements. Odom will be active Sunday against the Patriots while his four-game suspension appeal is reviewed.
Source: ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Facts

1. Joe Flacco threw an interception that was well read by cromartie (really one of the only god plays antonio had, so you can’t take that away from him).
2. Derrick Mason (you spelled your own players name wrong) should not have been left out, your right.. He currently has more touchdowns against the Bengals than anyone on your team… I like the guy actually, but he is not going to be a difference maker.
3. Flacco folds under pressure and did so against the Jets. But, he does have good stats against AFC North opponents so he will be your key factor.
4. Ray Rice is a beast and will get over 100 yards.
5. The locker room has been motivated and focused to not dwell on their embarrassing performance from Sunday and just learn from their mistakes, especially Mike Zimmer and His defense. If there is anyone who can turn that around and own the Ravens offense like he has done in the past, its Mike Zimmer. We will be ready.

It is going to be an all out brawl, but we will come out victorious because our team has more heart. Not to mention more talent and athleticism.

by joecincy07 on Sep 15, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

I saw Flacco convert 3rd down time after time, so how did he fold? I agree Ray Rice will have about a 100 rushing and 30 rec. Were you in the locker room to know that they have become motivated? How come Bengal fans seem to have more respect for Zimmer than their head coach Lewis. Where was the “heart” for the bengals in NE? I know the Ravens had a ton of heart in NY. More talent? the Ravens have 6 players in ranked in the top 100. How many do the bengals have?

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you look up and down at our roster, we are a more talented team. We are deeper at every position. And i speak for myself and no other bengal fan, but I respect Lewis more than any coach in the history of the NFL. If he were fired i think Zimmer would be a great fill dont get me wrong, but Marvin has been through so much with our ragged past and deals with worse ownership than anyone. We came out over confident against the Pats. We thought we were untouchable, but we got rocked and realize that we can play just as bad as anyone else and blow it. I mean our Defense was awful. But if you could learn anything from the bengals of last season, you would know that we handle situations like this better than any other.

by joecincy07 on Sep 15, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the Bengals need to do:

Start playing at with 15:00 left in the first quarter, not at 14:30 left in the 3rd quarter when they are down 28.

by JoseOle on Sep 15, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Carson vs. the Ravens

ever since Carsons amazing 4th quarter comeback against the Ravens in ’04 I just believe him Chad Brat and Lewis just BELIEVE in their abilty to best the Ravens…the mind is a powerful thing…..I believe its the reversal when we play the Pats…..In a league of nothing but professionals swagger as I would like to call it decides games week in and week out.

 Prediction-Bengals beat Ravens 24-20

by stripes earner on Sep 15, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Streak

I think you are right Stripes… the Bengals have one the past five of our seven meetings with the Ravens. We r not scared and more so, we r pissed off at how we played last week. Ray Lewis and their defense doesnt scare the team. We will expose their secondary for what it is, shoddy at best without ed reed

by joecincy07 on Sep 15, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haters

 I watched the whole Bengals game on Sunday. Palmer looked horrible against a D with rookie corners. You guys got destroyed on both sides of the ball, 17 garbage time points hide the fact that it was a blow out…. what 31-10 at one time? Say what you will about Flacco, after only two years he has already won more playoff games then Palmer ever will will. Didn’t the Jets earlier this year just knock you out of the playoffs? about the same time the Ravens were destroying the Patriots in NE.

by Let's be Realistic here! on Sep 15, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Who's the hater here?

Because it looks like it is the poster insulting the Bengals and their fans on a Bengals blog written for Bengals fans by Bengals fans.

by SnapCount80 on Sep 16, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what did beating NE get you?

Did you win the super bowl? The only thing beating NE got you was a bunch of Preseason hype for 2010. I dont know if your offense looked worse or the Jets. They both equally sucked

by Diesel2405 on Sep 16, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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