Ray Lewis: Bengals Didn't Earn Win
by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 20, 2010 4:41 PM EDT
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Say what you will about Ray Lewis' history (yes, that history). But in my lifetime of watching football, I'm not sure if I've personally seen a more emotional team leader, a better linebacker or a more respected player in this league (just read what his contemporaries say about him) than Lewis. He's an 11-time Pro Bowler, a seven-time First-Team All-Pro that's won a Super Bowl. He's a hall of famer. To dispute that would just seem petty anymore. You might not like him; in fact you might hate him being a Bengals fan. But at the same time, you sort of have to respect his body of work on the field.
That being said, he was irritate after losing to the Bengals 15-10 saying "They didn't earn it."
"There were six points given off b.s. calls," Lewis said. "You put six points on the (darn) board by people doing their job. There are so many rules that take away from the game. There's too much crying in the game. Football is getting hit. You don't come into a lion's den and be nice. It's embarrassing."
On one hand, it's hard not to disagree. Remember the Justin Smith quarterback sack on Bruce Gradkowski against Tampa Bay in 2006? As normal as a tackle can look, Smith dropped Gradkowski for an eight-yard loss. The sack was flagged for roughing the passer. At the time, Peter King wrote:
HORRENDOUS roughing-the-passer call in Tampa, giving the Bucs good field position as they drive, with a Toledo Rocket at quarterback, Bruce Gradkowski, to try to beat the hanging-on-for-dear-life Bengals at the Pirate Ship."
It wasn't just horrendous. It could be argued that the call cost the Bengals a win over the 0-4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. While the sack would have put Tampa Bay out of field goal position that would have set up second-and-18, the penalty pulled Tampa Bay within five yards of the redzone. But that's a simplistic and lazy way of looking at it. The sack didn't prevent Kevin Kaesviharn from badly covering Michael Pittman out of the backfield for a 10-yard pass. Nor did it prevent the Bengals from blowing a third-and-13 from their own 18-yard line that resulted in a touchdown two plays later, eventually losing by one point.
While yes, there's too many rules protecting quarterbacks in this league, they are the same rules applied to all teams. Well, theoretically at least.
As Geoff Hobson points out, the referees didn't call the Ravens for pass inference in the endzone when Terrell Owens was "getting absolutely mauled in the end zone", nor did they give Lewis a personal foul for taking off his helmet when arguing against the tripping called against him earlier in the game.
But to say the Bengals didn't earn it? I suppose you could say that. I mean, Joe Flacco obviously helped us out plenty.
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our d outplayed them
nuge probably would have hit the field goal anyway, it was on 1st down. they missed the PI call, etc. lewis needs to quit whining. he wants to talk about being a man on the field, he needs to be one off it. the calls went their way against the jets, but not against us. that’s the way life goes. deal with it.
RIP Slim.
+1
Defensively we beat them. Our defense was better than there’s and Ray Lewis is just being a cry baby. We were penalized way more than them the entire game so his point is moot.
by JamesShively on Sep 20, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Boo-Hoo
I recall similar whining after we swept them last year.
Flacco will still be there, slinging crappy passes to the outside edges. Do you think it’s a co-incidence TJ was a non-factor and Flacco can’t throw to targets moving across the field?
Ray, you get another chance at the end of the season to beat us. Man up and accept you lost.
2010 - The Year of the Tiger.
Change those calls
And Flacco would probably have made up for them with a pick-six or two.
Bengals Didn't Earn Win
and the ravens did!!! or does he think it should have been a tie?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 20, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
ray thinks the ravens should start the season at 16-0
would just saves time, they could appear in the playoffs only, skipping the regular season.
of course, he’d still whine about the officiating in the playoffs.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Typically answers after a loss.
Pick out 1-2 plays and say that cost them the game. While ignoring the other non-calls during the game. Keep crying Ray
by Deanezag on Sep 20, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
lewis has to understand that defense is only part of a team
and it could be argued that his unit was bested by the bengal one because the bengals caught the errant passes which his unit dropped on the several occasions that carson tried to give throw them a bone and thus the ravens d lost to the bengals d.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 20, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
this ray lewis comment really bugs me.
i could see saying no one deserved to win but even that i would leave to a third party. it annoys me more than the favre no training camp not on the same page comments. lewis is a headhunter who was involved in off field violence. don’t like him or his style. i watch football for the throws the catches the runs not the bonecrushing hits. when i was a kid i saw the whole daryl stingley thing on tv and it freaked me out. i just have no patience for that kind of thing. i gues it is part of the game but it freaks me out a little. …and ray lewis, YOU LOST DEAL WITH IT!
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 20, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
RAVENS TARGETED BY NFL OFFICIALS?
Those two calls yesterday were terrible. Add in the roughing passer penalties last year against Tom Brady and the “excessive violance” against Chad OchoCinco last year and it appears that NFL officials have targeted the Ravens -—> http://nyti.ms/9STvxZ
BULLSHIT YOU WANT SOME CHEESE WTH THAT WHNE !!!!
STOP CRYING THEY ARE NOT TARGETING THE RAVENS YOU LOST GET OVER IT . THE BENGALS GET WAY MORE BAD CALLS CALLED ON THEM THAN THE RAVENS DO SO JUST STOP IT . IS THAT GONG TO BE YOUR EXCUSE AGAN NEXT TME THE BENGALS BEAT THE RAVENS .WHAT ABOUT THE PASS ENTERFERANCE ON T.O THAT WAS NOT CALLED IN THE ENDZONE OR WHEN LEWIS TOOK HIS HELMET OFF WHEN HE WAS CRYNG ABOUT THE TRIPPING CALL THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED YOU CAN NOT TAKE YOUR HELMET OFF ON THE FIELD.
Give me a break.
I really like Ray Lewis, but once or twice a year he gives one of these “reverend like” speeches after a game on how the refs screwed him or the Ravens D and cost them a victory. Now if the Ravens had dominated every facet of that game yesterday, I could see his point. But what his little lecture ends up doing is misdirecting the real attention(which should be the Bengals D dominating, and Flacco sucking) and makes it sound like the poor Ravens got picked on all day long and had the game stolen from them. It’s a crock of sh*t.
Vegas favorite for headline after next Ravens Bengals matchup:
Refs blow call, cost Ravens win.
Seems like that’s how the headline reads after every game between these teams. Maybe that wouldn’t be the headline if the Ravens would on occasion beat the Bengals?
Dear Ray, you lost because your QB threw us the ball 4 times
now stop complaining.
and TJ HushIGotNoReceptions
caused an Int that hurt the ravens.
0-6 and giving away 3 points, running the wrong route. not a way to endear yourself to a new team.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
.333
5-10 vs marvin. we didnt win any of em.
ray, like mel gibson says, “you should just smile..”
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
come to think of it
why doesn’t ray mention all the calls that weren’t called against the ravens, from the pass interference in the end zone to ray taking his helmet off on the field.
wait he’s special, as are the ravens, those aren’t penalties when the ravens do it, only when it happens to them..
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Irony =
Ray Lewis whining about there being “too much crying” in football.
by 80%OFTHETIMEIMRIGHTEVERYTIME on Sep 20, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
Some team ought to chop block his butt
all game long, then we can hear him complain that footballs a game of hitting and there’s too much crying.
Hypocrite
He’s the one crying. The refs weren’t the ones who threw 4 picks ray!
catalina wine mixer
by WHO D-EH! on Sep 20, 2010 6:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree Cincy Sucks
Bad calls won it… Hell you should invite those guys back if you make the playoffs.You might actually make it out of the first round J E T S JETS JETS JETS. === } suck the long one CINCY
by JETS4Champions!! on Sep 20, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions
See you in a few weeks
IN PRIMETIME TELEVISION
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 20, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree both were bad calls, but i doubt those penalties cost you a win!!
How many times did they miss pass interference or holding on the Ravens? how many bad calls do we get? Every team gets bad call quit crying it cost you a win, your crappy O-line and QB play didnt help your cause either!
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People like this make your fanbase look bad
not that it needed any help
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 20, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Might as well have written The Turkey's Mascara.
Would have been as close as what you were trying to post.
Wow
Dear JETS clown, how big of a loser are you if you come to another teams fan site weeks before you play just to mouth off? Stop being a troll and move out of mom and dads basement, seriously.
+1
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 20, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhh hahahahahahah funny im still laughing at last years attempt at a playoff run by the bangles
by JETS4Champions!! on Sep 20, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
And what did your team accomplish?
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 20, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
^ Steeler fan in incognito
always talking about the past
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 20, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, wow.
Judging by your “Ahhh hahahahahahah” response, you’re either a 12 year old boy or functionally retarded. I’m not sure. Either way, you look and sound like a complete jackas*. Hope you realize that.
Another two weeks while you guys watched ..........Later Bithches
by JETS4Champions!! on Sep 20, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions
^NOOB^
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 20, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd get your as* kicked for saying that crap in person and you know it.
Internet is a beautiful thing. You can call another man a bitch and get away with it. Perfect for a guy like that.
RE: it's called "Thumb Thuggin"
the internet is full of little nerds who get tough the only place they can…..just ignore it
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
In related news Harbaugh will be fined
for making contact with an official.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled flamewar.
Sweet
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 20, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw that and told my buddy that
He will be fined for hitting the official. Why wasn’t the flag thrown on that one too? He was supposed to throw a flag and throw him out of the game for do that.
FIRE BRATSUCKSKI
Hey Ray, the Ravens didn’t earn anything on Sunday…wait yeah they did…They earned a loss by turning over the ball 4 times and playing worse offense than the Bengals. Our excuse…BRATSUCKSKI
by Vman in Germany on Sep 20, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
CHILD PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
THE RAVENS, THINK THEY BELONG IN THE SUPERBOWL EVERY! BUT NOT THIS YEAR OR NEXT,OR NEXT, NOT EVEN THE SORRY STEELERS…….CHILD PLEASE!!!!!!!
Okay, here is the real bottom line
I does not really bother me at all what Ray says or what he thinks. I will take the win. I don’t care if the refs come out and simply declare us the winners. I don’t care how blatant the bad calls are. I don’t care if the ref is gay and hot for Carson and wants to protect him because he thinks he is cute. If it gives us the win and pisses off Ravens fans as far as I am concerned it is all good. If it is bad for the Ravens and their fans and makes them foam at the mouth – the more foam the better. As long as we put our best efforts on the field and all of the calls are made by the refs and it is a legal win – cool.
Do any of you think for a minute that they would feel any different if the shoe was on the other foot? Child please! It is a great day in Bengaldom and Rays crybaby act is simply icing on the cake. Angry and pissed off Raven fans are the cherry on top. It isn’t like all of this crying wasn’t predictable. Hell they even cry when they win. Now they are on their boards talking about how they are going to dominate us week 17. Of course it escapes them that they all said that last week and twice last year. You know just before the left the field with their tails between their legs. They can brag about beating and intimidating just about everyone – but us and that drives the crazy. It is really fun to watch.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Sounds like Ray Lewis
has an ouchie in his vagina.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 20, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
oh, goodless, what a whiny baby....
One can make an argument that in 82% of NFL games, they are so close and evenly matched that any 1 or 2 big plays or lack of plays can completely change the game. It happens every week.
I didn’t see anything on the field on Sunday that indicated that BAL earned a win.
Did San Diego cry when they gave up something like 150 total yard to KC in week 1, yet lost 21-14 despite “outplaying” them?
What matters is the final score. Bengals had more. They won. End of story.
Lewis is a crybaby
He always cries when they lose but for once he is right.
J
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