Week 2 Recap: Not Every Win Is Pretty
Reading all the reports on the Bengals first victory of the season, it's hard to discern who, or what, to credit for the win. Some say it was the Bengals defense, others claim it was Joe Flacco's futility, and a few have even blamed the refs. The hard fact remains that the AFC North has yet to find a recipe for beating Cincinnati in a divisional game, and for us Bengal fans, that alone should be a sweet nectar on our lips.
Yet, alas, it isn't. Another local columnist—who is often times unreadable—correctly pointed out that it shouldn't matter how the Bengals win; it just matters that it gets done. Many found more reason to gripe about the meager yardage totals and the third-down doldrums, rather than cheer on their presumably favorite team for their biggest (and only) win of the year thus far. Yes, it was frustrating watching repeated red-zone trips translate to only three points. Yes, Carson Palmer had a poor passing day, and yes, Bob Bratkowski proved once more that his predictable play-calling is hampering his team's production. But the strength of this group, the defense, should have put all that complaining to bed.
The real hero for this game was the secondary and not just for the four interceptions that ultimately won the game. All day—aside from one touchdown pass to Derrick Mason—the corners and safeties blanketed the so-called high-powered weaponry of the Baltimore passing attack and silenced the critics from the week before. Even when Adam Jones left the game with a sore shoulder, Morgan Trent rose to the occasion, and when Johnathan Joseph began to cramp up, Chris Crocker and Chinedum Ndukwe filled in nicely to preserve the win. The defensive line outlasted Baltimore's front five and disrupted Flacco late in the game. But it was the coverage downfield that made the difference.
If you must find a villain for what should have been a happy day, revert to the old custom and blame Bratkowski. People who have never watched football in their lives knew when a running play had been called, and each time Reggie Kelly shifted to the fullback position that prediction came true 100 percent of the time. If Bratkowski doesn't satisfy your ire, toss some of the blame to Palmer's inaccurate passing performance that in all likelihood should have resulted in at least one pick. Assuming your one of those people who simply must bitch about every single negative until you're blue in the face, remind us all how much pre-snap penalties suck. Now that you have that out of the way, can we enjoy the win again?
I agree that Ray Lewis has a point to his complaints of the roughing-the-passer call that Terrell Suggs was flagged for late in the game—everyone agrees with that—but Ray is old enough to know that refs don't always get the calls rights and that every team has suffered from their human errors. To say the Bengals don't deserve the win reminds me of that Aesop story regarding a wolf and sour grapes; get over it, oh ye wise old legend. If Ray must harbor resentment for a hard-fought game that didn't go his way, he should manifest those feelings in Week 17 when the two teams meet again. You are undoubtedly a spectacular player, Ray Lewis, but I thought you were more of a man than that.
I won't sit here and pretend that the Bengals don't have concerns on offense—there is still much tightening to be done on that side of the ball. If anything, they look poorly prepared. The passing game looks a hair out of rhythm (remind you of last year?), the blockers don't seem to be the maulers they were a season ago, and not knowing the snap count should be reserved for pee-wee football. But there is time to fix these things, and the defense showed that the concern on their side should be kept to a minimal.
All in all, Bengals fans, it could have been a lot worse last Sunday and you should recognize that. This isn't Brazilian soccer where the team must dazzle each time on their way to victory. There are ugly games throughout the schedule for every team in the NFL; the key is coming out on top when those occasions surface.
Mojokong—admittedly was close to blowing a gasket or two in the fourth quarter.
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Passing game: Out of rhythm?
Getting tired of hearing this. They’ve been out of rhythm since 2007 when these so called miscommunications began to occur which led to 20 inetrceptions that year. That was with Chad and TJ. Last year it was because we had new and underperforming WR’s. This year we greatly upgrade our Wr’s and TE, have Bernard Scott coming out of the backfield and low and behold we still have timing issues. They say Carson needs time to get on the same page with his new targets but if we look closely we see that he’s almost perfect when throwing to Shipley ( one of these new targets that he needs time with ) but when he misses Chad in the endzone some say he didn’t know where Chad ( his Wr he’s been playing with for 8 years) would be. Maybe our QB just can’t throw the ball down the field or out to the sidelines like he used to. It would also help if he could do a better job out of the huddle because delay of game penalties ( first in the league last year), QB or C not knowing snap count and dropped snaps ( 2 so far in 2 games ) are a direct reflection of the QB.
Because you're just not getting it.
All in all, Bengals fans, it could have been a lot worse last Sunday and you should recognize that. This isn’t Brazilian soccer where the team must dazzle each time on their way to victory. There are ugly games throughout the schedule for every team in the NFL; the key is coming out on top when those occasions surface.
What about Ray Ray taking his helmet off to yell at the refs?
If he is such a stickler for strict interpretations of rules, than he should have been flagged for an unsportsmanlike penalty. But really, who cares? The Bengals D won that game hands down.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Maybe, just maybe, Carson passed with ease to Shipley because.........
He knows Shipley will always catch the ball and he is the best route runner on the team. He is always where Carson expects him to be when he is expected to be there. Maybe the other WRs aren’t doing that as well. Does CP only have a good accurate arn when 11 is in his sights. I don’t think so. Chad flay out dropped passes that I assure Shipley would have gathered in and that he has caught in the past. If Carson throws a pass on a timing pattern and the WR misses his route the QB can look really bad really fast.
I am not saying Carson is on top of his game. He obviously isn’t but IMO it isn’t just his problem. I tend to think we are running a bit too complicated of a scheme. Zimmer went back to basics and the D followed up a bad debut with an outstanding performance. Maybe Brat should take a page from Zim’s book. We have some real talent on O, maybe we should just let them play without all of the complications and just use their talent to make plays.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Marvin Lewis said this too
I tend to think we are running a bit too complicated of a scheme. Zimmer went back to basics and the D followed up a bad debut with an outstanding performance. Maybe Brat should take a page from Zim’s book. We have some real talent on O, maybe we should just let them play without all of the complications and just use their talent to make plays.
When I read this it reminded me of a piece I read at bengals.com. Here’s the link
Lewis flags flags
by Oregonbengalsfan on Sep 22, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Marvin Lewis stole copy from JungleJohn?
I know.
But I can think Brat’s head was working overtime with all of these new weapons developing before his eyes. He kept having visions of Bellicheck in his nightmares, and woke up in a cold sweat to draft up yet an other over complication pass play.
2010 - The Year of the Tiger.
Carson passes to Shipley with more accuracy because
of where he is on the field. Generally short and between the numbers on the field. Which translates to a shorter pass that Carson has to throw. The passes to the wideouts are generally between the numbers and the sidelines or deeper down the field which obviously require a longer throw for Carson to complete. He now tends to float his passes out to the sidelines rather than zip them in like he used. Sometimes when he tries to zip them in now he comes up a few yards short like he did on that one to TO early in the game. Also his deep passes now tend to hang in the air and force his receivers to slow down and wait for the ball. Shipley is a fine young slot receiver who seems to catch everything but to say he’s a better route runner than Chad after 2 games is a bit ridiculous. Chad is running about every route on the route tree from short to intermediate to long while Shipley is currently only running short and a few intermediate routes. And don’t you see the outstanding patterns Chad runs on the perimeter of defenses to free himself from some of the best corners around the league on a regular basis. While we do have a lot of talent on offense now Carson has to make use of it. He has to stop forcing so many throws deeper and look to Shipley and Gresham over the middle more and to Benson and especially Scott out in the flat. Scott is generally wide open out there but Carson doesn’t look over there and thats a shame because Scott could do some serious damage and make Carson look real good.
I do get your point and it is a good one, but my point was...
Carson has thrown several timing patterns to Shipley and Shipley is where he is supposed to be. He does not freelance. Carson, even on shorter routes, seens to be throwing to where he they should be. If they are early or late the ball is ahead of or behind them. On a timing pattern the ball is thrown to a spot before the receiver makes his break. The receiver needs to be there – not two steps behind ot ahead. Chad and TO have fully admitted that they freelance at times. That is good on longer patterns where Carson can see it and make an adjustment ut on shorter passes it can be disasterous.
TO said it himself in a recent interview. He said that he runs routes faster on game day that he does in practice as if that was a good thing. On some riutes it is but on timing patterns faster is not neccessarily good, in fact it can cause the ball to hit the defender in the chest. I am not saying this is all the WRs problem but there is a distinct possibility that it isn’t as much Carson as it may appear.
I just think it ill take a few games to get the bugs worked out. My post was not a knock on Chad but I can remember Chads first season Shipley is way ahead of where he was in his first year and frankly given a year or two could be better than Chad, of course that is just my opinion.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
You are right about Chad freelancing
sometimes. But thats on the longer routes. They don’t freelance on shorter routes. I believe that some of this on Chads part is because he knows Carson locks on to him sometimes so if he doesn’t get open by any means neccessary the play likely wont be successful. You’re right that Shipley is ahead of where Chad was as a rookie but thats to be expected considering that he spent 6 years at Texas compared to Chad who was a Juco guy before going to Oregon St. for 1 year. But there’s no point in comparing them right now. They’re really actually playing completely different roles. RE the offense in general the kinks will be worked out when Carson can show better pocket presence, go through his progressions quickly and make better choices on where to throw the ball. He’s got plenty of weapons.
Amongst all the talk of Carson Palmer's demise
Has anyone noticed that through 2 games he is on pace to have his second most yards?
so?
He passed for 345 yards in a game where we were down 31-3. I can’t say that impresses me much. And last week, he passed for 160 yards.
His pace doesn’t matter to me. It’s efficiency that I want to see.
RE:
Why is everyone discounting his 345 yds in the Pats game?!?! when you’re down that much, the other team knows you have to pass the ball (and don’t give me they were playing prevent D, b/c they weren’t, go back and watch the game again). Yeah, he had a bad game against the Ratbirds, but this week even Carson admitted he still has to adjust more to TO’s differences in stride lenght and route running b/c of his size….furthermore TO has said the same thing. We’ll be fine guys, just gotta take care of business these next 6-7 weeks. If we come into the Pittsburgh game at 6-1 or 5-2 we will be in a great position to deal w/the LOADED back half of our schedule
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
small sample etc...
someone else could argue that his capability is plummeting
Game 1 345yards
Game 2 160 yards
Game 3 -25 yards
I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?
Ordinarily I would agree with you
but in this case, I think there is a solid control group. In this case both of the Ravens opponets have faced the Pats, who have a historically solid if unspectacular defense (ie in the top 10-15 but not top 5.
In this case, the Ravens have held opponents to around 2/3rds of their average offense and and 50-60% of their average scoring. I think we can safely assume that the Ravens have a good defense, since their defense has been the best in the NFL over the past decade.
What your not looking at
How good would carsons stats be if Chad and TO didn’t drop half of their passes. If they can get there hands on it then these so called hall of fame wr’s shouldn’t be dropping them. No one ever mentions this but TO has always led the league in dropped balls. They need to make plays.
by lbacker2179 on Sep 23, 2010 7:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
On the other side of that coin...
TO was overthrown on an endzone pass and OchoCinco got open in the endzone only to have a ball thrown wide out of reach in the endzone. These are two plays that, if Palmer makes a better pass, the WRs would have a chance to meet expectations and Palmer would have two more TDs to his stats.
True
I don’t deny that but even the one he over threw in the endZone was still catchable. Did you see Randy moss’s catch agianst revis? Don’t forget the drive stoppers the wr’s simply dropped. Hall of fame wr make those plays. Good wr’s make that play. Don’t get me wrong Chad normally makes those plays and TO can make plays. I just think Carson is getting to much heat for other players mistakes.
by lbacker2179 on Sep 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

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