Post Game Open Thread: Cincinnati Bengals 20 (2-1) at Carolina Panthers 7 (0-3)
Sure is a lot of whining around here for a team that's 2-1. It's not 2005. The defense is really good. Carson Palmer looks off - for a number of reasons from coaching, to the offensive line, to his arm - and Shayne Graham isn't around to miss important kicks.
If you're judging by penalties, it's still very much 2009. This team lacks discipline. The two personal foul flags at the end of the game were unnecessary, terrible calls. But in the end, they didn't really matter as Jimmy Clausen's last throw fell incomplete in the end zone. A win is a win is a win. At the end of the season, it doesn't matter how you got there.
This one was ugly. The Bengals had 4 takeaways, but gave the ball up twice on Carson Palmer interceptions. There were dropped passes, bad throws, bad blocking, bad penalties, missed opportunities. But hey, they're taking care of business, and it's so early in the season that I'm not getting too worked up about any of it yet. If the offense picks up even a little bit, with the way the defense is playing, the Bengals will be a very tough team to beat.
Real tests don't start until after the bye week. Cleveland and Tampa Bay are the next two opponents. Anything less than 4-1 going into the tough stretch of this season will not be good enough. Luckily, it shouldn't be that hard to get to.
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game ball should go to zimmer
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
The key is next week
The Clowns kept it close in Baltimore today; offense needs to show up next week.
Nice to see Ced giving out about the identity of the offense and he gets his first EVER NFL receiving TD.
That win exorcises Oakland last season. Gotta build from here…
Yeah, it’s not going to be an easy win in Cleveland. Although I believe the Bengals have a better defense than the Ravens. Benson did his fantasy owners proud, he proved that if you give him touches he’ll make plays, they just need to dial up the rights plays at the right time (I know that’s too much to ask ).
Needs a fullback
Someone capable of blocking correctly. That person isn’t on our team at the moment but he sorely misses having Jeremi.
Saints nearly lost to the 4-12 Redskins last year.
Colts had a bunch of close losses. They still pulled out wins. It’s going to be close, it’s not going to a blowout, especially with this offense, but we’re not a pretty team. We don’t go out and try to look good, that’s fluff, the excess, things that the finesse teams go for. We’re not a finesse team, we’re smashmouth, rough, and dirty. If you have problems with that, I got one thing to say:

speaking of the saints
wtf happened with the atlanta win. icing the kicker backfired.. lol.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I dunno, man.
And then the kicker goes and misses the FG and ultimately loses the game for the Saints. Niiice.
Carson Palmer looked really really bad.
I don’t understand how shitty the offense is! I’m happy they won but next time we play a team that can actually score it’s gonna be a long day.
by Diesel2405 on Sep 26, 2010 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
One week at a time
If that’s Palmer’s crap effort out of the way with, then he picked the right day to have it.
Let’s win one game at a time. 2-1. I’ll take that.
A big part of Carson's game is throwing timing routes. That part goes out the window on a mushy field.
Carson had a bad day. But it wasn’t all on his shoulders. Take the first interception he threw. Chad loses his footing on his inside cut and the defender doesn’t, allowing the defender to get an easy pick.
From what I could see, there were several passing plays where the timing was thrown off by the mushy turf. In hindsight, Bratkowski should have called a more conservative game from the onset.
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Let’s hope that Carson shows some leadership and spends the extra time this week to get the O right. He’s got ability, he’s just got to execute.
"Ryan, Things in here don't react too well to bullets." - Marko Ramius
Geoff Hobson
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Defense-carries-the-day/60201c99-fff7-41e0-aef5-b7f5d1f04708
…looks like he’s writing for a fan website!
The fiancée of late Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry and their children visited the Bengals hotel Saturday night and had dinner in the team dining room with Jones
that was cool
I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?
by supergrover on Sep 27, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Palmer and know he has it in him to be elite
just not sure why he hasn’t been sharp at all.
When was the last time he threw 3 TD’s a game?
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
This season too many points have been given up when the Offense gets to the Red Zone. You can blame the OC and/or you can blame the Offense (O-line, Palmer, rceivers) but somewhere down the line the question has got to be asked “How do we put points on the scoreboard”. After the bye week we have a some tough games and this question will need to be answered becuase we cannot keep relying on the defense.
Let's win in Cleveland first
Don’t care what has to happen after the bye.
Let’s take care of business before.
In know just about everybody
who has complained about Carson should be saying I told you so, but let’s take a look at what the real problem is.
Carson, who has had in the first few years of his career a great Oline, now doesn’t have one. Carson just doesn’t trust them at all, along with the horrible play calling of Bratworst. Bratworst i think, doesn’t trust them himself.
This is getting a little ridiculous that they are sitting a first round draft pick for undisclosed reasons. Well, we all can assume why, can’t we? Dennis the Rollover Roland sucks! (enough said about him) Kyle Cook can be a good center but with all of the other bad plays from the other lineman, he has to pick up the slack and we know a player should only do his job and not someone else’s job. That there is one of the problems with the Oline. I watched today, Carson way too skittish in the pocket again. He rushes his throws even when he has time. I call this being GUN SHY. David Klingler anybody? This Oline is too inconsistent and has Carson too afraid of getting hit and hurt. They have to fix this problem fast or we will be on the outside looking in, again.
Maybe it’s time for Marvin to make someone accountable for the inconsistent play of the Oline. Benching manboobs is not going to light a fire under the rest of the line.
If he doesn't trust them,
why does he keep buying them big Christmas presents? Jacuzzis, etc.
There are clearly issues, but everyone needs to take their responsibilities and as the big earner (including managing the game clock), probably the majority of those responsibilities lies with Palmer.
All QBs buy their Lineman stuff.
This tries to tell them that we are a unit and I trust you. But in reality he doesn’t. The gift is just a good nature thing or gesture on Carson’s part. And the Last I heard, the Jacuzzi was bought 05’, for the lineman who were much better. Your 5 years late ole’ wiseking.
As for Carson taking responsibility, he admits it the day after the game but doesn’t show it b/c of being gun shy. David Klingler never said well, it’s the Oline and throw them under the bus. But we all know that it was b/c you can’t throw a pass on your ass. That being on the sideline hurt or on the ground in the pocket. Carson is a pure Pocket passer, and that’s his down fall, he can’t throw outside the pocket or an unbalance throw. He needs to be upright and in perfect form, Just like Brady, P Manning. But these two guys have a great line to keep them upright, Carson doesn’t.
roland and cook
were awful today. words don’t do justice to explain the level of game both of them played today. as close as i can come:
roland and cook would have struggled in a juco football game today.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I was watching Cook today
and he was pulling off his man to help Livings. Or blowing his position trying to pick a blitz up witch should be for someone else in the backfield. Yeah he sucked really bad today. The penalties were uncalled for too. Gresham had a few too, but he’s a rookie and I can forgive him this time of year.
I saw a lot of drpped balls out there
Yeah, Carson sure did have a good number of terrible throws, but the dropped passes really hurt today.
2010 - The Year of the Tiger.
Take the Oline into consideration along with the drop passes
Well then, you get a gun shy Carson throwing a lot of bad passes and making a lot of dumb decisions. It needs to be fix in a hurry or we will lose a starting QB (mentally, permanently).
The Panthers had more drops on passes from Carson than the Bengals...
Seriously, they should’ve had at least 4 picks…probably more like 6
the sad thing about today
Is that 2/3 of the team played great, but the offense was SO ugly it put an overwhelming stench on the game.
Rookie QB or no, the D was really on today. They dominated the line and played great in coverage until a couple of stupid, harmless penalties late.
Special teams was really the difference maker. Not just Nugent, either, Huber and the punt coverage team absolutely dictated the Panthers play. That is kind of 4 qtr consistency is something we haven’t seen in a long time.
The O has been discussed plenty so I won’t add much here, other than to highlight that if they had just been average, with the way this D and ST are playing, it would have been a runaway.
by swebbIL on Sep 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Penalties
I said it before, when we have a lot of penalties we win. We may win ugly but we win. We have had one clean game this year and we lost.
As far as the QB issue no one can know for sure how good/bad Palmer is until we get someone that can call the plays . Lord knows that our O-coordinator cannot do it.
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Ugly win but I'll take it.
Defense played ok;Carolina were poor.
Gresham needs to become even more of a fixture in the coming weeks,if he does then Chad and TO will benefit,we seem to force plays to them.
Shipley,like gresham needs to figure more.
For the Love of God,surely Smith is better than Roland. Its time to find out what Hippopottasmith has because he cant be much worse than the walking Penalty.
Palmer was awfull today,some of the passes,late and high over the middle were not passes that a vet QB should be making. He seems to be pressing to Chad/TO
The pass protection wasnt great but wasnt horrible,run blocking was very inconsistent,Benson got better as the game went on.
Please come out in the no huddle against Cleveland
this offense cannot get in any semblance of rythm with Brat scheme’s and then seem to spend the whole game pressing,lets start no huddle and hopefully spark some rythm early.
Carson, Carson, Carson
The main problem I have with Carson Palmer is that he telegraph’s his throws. From what I saw, he didn’t take his eyes off the receiver he was targeting. I was always taught this was a huge no-no. It makes me worried because it’s a lot easier for CBs/Safteties to pick the ball or cause an incompletion. All Carson has to do is look away for a brief second and then go back to his preferred receiver. I know he’s nervous, doesn’t want to get hit, or whatever. But, he can’t be soo obvious with where he’s throwing the ball.
Gotta love Zim....
for standing up two weeks ago and taking responsibility for his units poor play. Where are you Brat? The offense has been pathetic and we hear nothing from you. No explanations, no ownership, no appologies, no promises,…. Not even excuses. You sir ARE the problem.
+1bil
In Zim We Trust......Collaros for Heisman...An Avid Reader of Cincyjungle.com
by TennBengalfan on Sep 26, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It starts at the top and the Brat I believe is this offenses main issue. It’s actually unreal he’s been here since 2001?? He’s gotta go asap and Zampease should fill his vacancy for the remainder of the season….this offense needs a fresh start.
by Bdub14 on Sep 26, 2010 9:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Shit my Pants
On the last scoring drive the Bengals finally ran some play-action on 1st down, good gain on 1st occurrence, TD on second occurrence. 95% of the time Palmer audibles it is to a run. BRASUCKSKI is still the biggest problem in the offense but Palmer played totally uninspired ball today…Not sure his brain was wired up today!
by Vman in Germany on Sep 26, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
its hard to defend bratt
1/2 his plays are what needed to be done. even when they don’t work.
however, the other 1/2 of the time..
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

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