Cedric Benson Takes Charge of Offense: Scores Both Touchdowns In Route to The Bengals' 20-7 Win
It's really hard to pass judgment on Carson Palmer Sunday, who threw with a slippery football on a slippery football field for the supporting cast around him. Even though you can't excuse two first quarter interceptions, along with about five passes that could have been picked off, Palmer watched receivers lose their footing while throwing a slick football and an offensive line that struggled to hold their footing in pass protection. My god. Does that sound like another excuse? Against New England, we found some positive that Palmer and the passing offense recorded 345 yards passing. Yet, when Palmer threw for most of those passing yards, New England was already in a prevent-like defense. Baltimore is perhaps one of, if not the toughest defense we'll see this year with Pittsburgh still on tap. And during Cincinnati's 20-7 win over the Carolina Panthers, Palmer and the passing offense was dealing with terribly slick conditions.
Really. Are we excusing this? Are we passing the blame off to the conditions or the opponent?
In truth, here's how the world works. Winning football games isn't always about the quarterback for Cincinnati. We're not like the Colts, the Saints or even the Chargers; teams that live and die by the pass. Cincinnati is completely capable scaling back their offense to a conservative-run mode with guys like Cedric Benson, Bernard Scott and Brian Leonard. In the first half, Cincinnati passed the football on 53% of their 45 plays. In the second half, Cincinnati went into their 2009 sure-win mode, flipping the run-pass ratio. Of their 30 second half offensive plays, Cincinnati ran the football 53% of the time. And while Benson's yard/rush average was a miserable three-yard average, he increases his 2.6 yard/rush average in the first half, averaging 3.5 yards/rush in the game's final 30 minutes, when the Panthers were in the throes of the football grim reaper. Ced "The Grim Reaper" Pred. You get my point.
While Benson did his part, the Bengals rookies continue to impress. Carson Palmer targeted Jermaine Gresham and Jordan Shipley nine times (combined) and both rookies hauled in seven passes for 96 yards receiving.
| Target | Rec. | Yards | Avg | |
| Shipley / Gresham | 9 | 7 | 96 | 13.7 |
| Ochocinco / Owens | 21 | 8 | 76 | 9.5 |
This, of course, is slightly misleading. While the rookies were more efficient in their receptions, hauling in 78% of the passes intended for them (compared to 38% of the passes intended for Ochocinco and Owens), Chad and Terrell spent most of the game double-covered. This isn't an excuse, the passing offense clearly struggled. But as BeerRun points out, gives us more Shipley and Gresham. If that's what the defense wants to give us, why not take it?
And when Cincinnati's offense stumbled, which it did frequently on Sunday, it was the defense that stepped up. Actually, I think "stepped up" is the wrong phrase anymore. We should be saying, the defense played up to par again on Sunday. DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart combined for 77 yards rushing on 18 carries. Steve Smith caught his first pass with nine minutes remaining in the game. No passing touchdowns from a rookie quarterback who fell below 50% efficiency and only 188 yards passing. Check that. We beat a freaking rookie quarterback, giving us a .500 record against rookie quarterbacks during the Marvin Lewis era. After allowing 10 points against the Ravens, the Bengals defense limited Carolina to less than 300 yards of total offense for the second straight week. Yes, New England was an aberration.
The Bengals' win improves their record to 2-1. With Baltimore and Pittsburgh winning, that leaves Cincinnati in second place (by way of a tie-breaker against Baltimore) with Cleveland and Tampa Bay on tap before the Bengals hit the bye week.
CEDRIC SAYS WE NEED IDENTITY; THEREFORE LET'S PASS. During a week in which running back Cedric Benson complained about lacking an identity, Bob Bratkowski -- the much loved area offensive coordinator -- promptly called three passing plays to start Cincinnati's first offensive possession. On first down, Chad Ochocinco and Carson Palmer weren't on the same page, with Palmer trying to link up with Chad on a quick slant. On second down, Palmer, under pressure, attempts a throw to Terrell Owens, who was blanketed by linebacker Jon Beason on the right hashmarks. On third down, Palmer expected Ochocinco to cut inside on a route that went 15 yards; the receiver slipped and Palmer completed a pass to the Panthers' Munnerlyn for the game's first turnover.
And when the Bengals did run the football, on the first play of the second possession, the left side of the offensive line took the play off, forcing Benson to stretch the play out and lose four yards. Palmer would eventually complete a pass to Terrell Owens on a crossing pattern for the team's first down.
Through the first two drives, the Bengals called five passes and three runs. Benson had two of those runs, losing two yards. I wrote, "oh boy, here we go again" in my notebook. Not the lyrics to the Whitesnake song. Yikes.
MIKE NUGENT GETS MAD AT FOOTBALL, KICKS THE HELL OUT OF FOOTBALL. Bengals place kicker Mike Nugent is having a tremendous start to the season, going eight for eight in field goal attempts this year. Against New England, Nugent converted a 54-yard field goal and against Baltimore, he was the team's lone offense, converting five field goals. Against Carolina, during sloppy conditions, Nugent easily converted a 50-yarder to give Cincinnati a six-point lead early in the fourth quarter. Would saying, "Nugent is the team's biggest offensive weapon" be that much of an overstatement?
What was really entertaining was Nugent Nugent's appetite for kicking the living hell out of the football once he converted his 50-yard field goal. On the ensuing kickoff, Nugent crushed the football out of the back of the endzone. After Palmer completed a seven-yard touchdown pass to Cedric Benson to give Cincinnati a 20-7 lead, Nugent permanently reshaped the football on the following kickoff. Before the 50-yard field goal, Nugent's kickoffs went to Carolina's six, two and two yard lines. After that, Raleigh.
BAD ROY WILLIAMS | GOOD ROY WILLIAMS. During Carolina's initial possession, the Panthers offensive line split the Bengals defensive front, creating a massive seem for running back DeAngelo Williams. Dhani Jones took on (aka destroyed) the fullback, naturally knocking him out of the play. Keith Rivers stood stationary like the Rocky statue a gap further down the line, containing any cutback lanes. Roy Williams filled the hole, but whiffed like a bad deodorant commercial on the tackle. DeAngelo Williams picked up 26 yards on the run.
On the following play, Jimmy Clausen and Ryan Kalil fumbled the snap exchange; not terribly surprising during a rainy day between a rookie and center. Roy Williams recovered the fumble, repaying the loan he took after DeAngelo's 26-yard run earlier on the drive.
LEAPING REY MAUALUGA. With 10:16 left in the first quarter, the Panthers tried to run DeAngelo Williams up the middle from the Panthers six-yard line. Maualuga, tired of having to deal with blockers because blockers only get in the way, decides to hurdle the offensive line and tackle Williams for a no-gain. Michael Johnson would help finish the Panthers' drive by stopping Williams for another no-gain on the following play, forcing the Panthers to punt.
After two series, DeAngelo Williams recorded 29 yards rushing on five carries -- three of those carries went for a yard or less -- a face full of perfectly braided Samoan hair coming from the heavens.
BENGALS GET ON THE BOARD FIRST. With 8:54 left in the first quarter, Owens ran a crossing pattern underneath with Chad about 10 yards further upfield down the left sidelines. The pass went between both receivers, nearly picked off by safety Sherrod Martin. By this point in the game, Palmer had already thrown one interception and was nearly picked off an additional three times. Why was Cincinnati trying to throw the football, with an eight to five passing to run ratio and a slippery ball? On the next play, Palmer fakes a throw right, then dumps the pass off to Jermaine Gresham on a tight end screen. With blockers in front, Gresham was able to shed a tackler and pick up 28 yards on the pass. Touche, Bengals passing game. Touche.
Benson would go on to pick up nine yards on his next five carries, with a seven-yard third down reception by Terrell Owens that picked up a first down in between. On third-and-six with 5:10 left in the first quarter, Palmer tried to get the football to Andre Caldwell running a skinny route over the middle. Jordan Pugh grasped Caldwell's jersey, preventing him from recording a touchdown reception on a play identical to his game-winning receptions against the Steelers and Ravens last season.
Spoiler Alert: This would be the final moments in which Cincinnati wasn't winning the game.
Cincinnati lined up at the Panthers' one-yard line, Palmer dished the football to Benson, stretching out left, slipping through two attempted tackles and scoring the touchdown near the front left pylon. Bengals take a 7-0 lead with 4:21 left in the first quarter.
DEFENSE FORCED TO MAKE A PLAY AFTER PALMER INTERCEPTION, PART II. With 25 seconds left in the first quarter, Palmer takes a snap from the Bengals 32-yard line. With pressure coming up the middle, Palmer unleashes a really, really, really ill-advised pass over the middle, severely underthrowing Terrell Owens. Charles Godfrey intercepts the football and returns it to the Bengals 21-yard line. This was Palmer's second interception of the quarter with his should-have-been-picked count nearly reaching five.
On the following play, Panthers' receiver Steve Smith runs a post from the left with Leon Hall trailing. As the pass is thrown, Hall dives in front of Smith, picking off the pass, giving Cincinnati the ball back. Essentially swapping interceptions gave Carolina a 27-yard swing, though giving Cincinnati possession again.
On third down of the Bengals ensuing possession, Bratkowski called the only passing play that's working, a tight end screen to the left. Palmer completes the screen and Gresham picks up 10 yards for the first down.
THE LONGEST DRIVE NOWHERE. Cincinnati's drive made possible by Leon Hall's interception began with six seconds remaining in the first quarter at Cincinnati's five-yard line. After converting two third downs, the Bengals were left with a third-and-two that ended with another incomplete pass. Cursing took place and a puppy cried. The Bengals punt formation lines up with Kyle Cook at center. Sometimes these things don't register. Not with me. Not with the announcers. Not with the opposing players. Clark Harris is the long snapper, dummy. Cook snaps the football to the up-back Brian Leonard, who swings out wide right. Gap. Leonard bursts through the line and picks up four yards. At this point I'm asking, "did I just see a fake punt?" The question was worth repeating with an amendment. "Did I just see a fake punt... work?"
It's not that Cincinnati isn't capable of converting fake punts -- they did it last year against the Broncos. But I have to admit, Cincinnati's offense lulled me into a sense of boredom similar to the middle of a NASCAR race. Sure things are happening, and some are good, but not much action is going on here.
The fake punt would eventually go for naught. Even though Cincinnati consumed seven minutes and 21 seconds, the 16-play drive ended with a punt.
OPPOSING QUARTERBACKS NOT HAVING FUN. For the second straight week, opposing quarterbacks recorded less than 25 yards passing in the first half. Clausen had 14 yards passing in the first quarter and none in the second. And they did that with a limited pass rush.
BRIAN LEONARD CONVERTS SECOND FOURTH DOWN. With 4:02 left in the first half, the Bengals elected to go for it on fourth down on Carolina's 33-yard line on a wet field. At this point, we're wondering why would Cincinnati risk Nugent's tender groin and give Carolina optimal field position if the field goal is missed. Unbeknownst to us at the time, Nugent's leg isn't tender at all. In fact, I'm now partially convinced that Nugent could roundhouse kick the country of Iran and end nuclear development any time he wanted.
But they went for it on fourth down anyway. Palmer, in shotgun, tosses to Brian Leonard on the left with two pulling offensive linemen. Leonard easily picks up the first down for his second fourth down conversion of the game on a six-yard gain.
Label this as brilliant Bob Bratkowski play-calling. In other news: Twenty readers at Cincy Jungle were just sent restraining orders, protecting the author of this posting.
The Bengals would go on to pick up another first down on an 11-yard Cedric Benson run before Jermaine Gresham's holding call stalled the Bengals drive. Mike Nugent caps the nine-play drive (that only went 27 yards) with a 33-yard field goal to take a 10-0 lead with just over a minute left in the first half. Iran takes notice.
OFFENSIVE LINE IMPLODES WHILE THE BENGALS THREATEN TO END HALF. This has to be the most embarrassing end to a first half in the history of embarrassing ends. With :59 seconds left in the first half and Carolina working their two minute magic to get points before the half, Frostee Rucker lines up on the left side of the defensive line. Along with five other defensive players, the Bengals pressure Clausen with Rucker sweeping around Carolina's Geoff Schwartz, burying Clausen for an eight-yard loss and his first quarterback sack of the season.
On the very next play, Clausen hands off to running back Mike Goodson. By hand off, we actually mean rocket propelled football that launches 10 yards away. Morgan Trent recovered the fumble and the Bengals line up at Carolina's 27-yard line. Alright, so we're going to get some points, right? I can't fricking wait to cheer a possible 17-point lead with an offense that's look horrific throughout much of the first half. I'm pumped because we're avoiding disaster here.
After Palmer finds Jordan Shipley for a 22-yard pass, the Bengals line up, apparently agreeing to snap the football on one. Cook, however, didn't like that idea. Not one damned bit. Snapping on one is too much of a Twitter trend, so he'll snap the football on two. Everyone, except for Cook, was called for a false start, penalizing Cincinnati five yards and a timeout to prevent the automatic 10-second run off because of an offensive penalty before the half. Not only is this the third time Cook has forgotten the snap count in the past two games, this comes back to burn them.
With 15 seconds left, Palmer completes a five-yard pass to Jermaine Gresham while Dennis Roland slowly picks himself off the ground; which is kind of a theme with Roland. With the clock ticking, Roland suddenly realized the urgency of the situation -- like the second you realized that you accidentally slept in during a work day -- and sprinted as only 6'9" beasts sprint. Five... (still sprinting), four... (still sprinting), three... (still sprinting), two... (slowing down beasty sprint), one... (finally lines up) and the half is over.
Great work Cook, for forcing us to use our final time out. Great work Roland, for not getting on the line of scrimmage before the half ends. Cook and Roland: As inspirational as gout on both of my feet.
AND THE PANTHERS GET ON THE BOARD. Let a team like Carolina stick in the game, and they're bound to burn you. Cincinnati sporting massive weapons with absolutely no gun powder, watched as the Panthers offense came to life. After a no-gain, Jimmy Clausen would go on to complete three of four passes on Carolina's second possession of the second half, picking up 42 yards.
Jonathan Stewart would take the handoff at the Bengals one-yard line and put Carolina on the board, closing the deficit to three points on a drive that went 75 yards on eight plays in 3:23.
Spoiler remainder: Cincinnati never loses the lead since scoring in the first quarter.
Along with a Pat Sims roughing the quarterback, Cincinnati's defense elected to take this drive off while the struggling Bengals offense showed absolutely no hope, no reason to be excited with some holding onto quiet thoughts of entertaining a new quarterback in 2011. No, you're not. Are you?
BENGALS RUSHING SO GOOD. SO LET'S THROW THE FOOTBALL. Cedric Benson wasn't picking up chunks of yards, but he was running effectively, rarely dropped for a loss and simply wearing down the Panthers defense. With roughly eight minutes left in the third quarter, the Bengals decided to run the football, calling Benson's number on five of the drives' six plays, picking up 30 yards and two first downs.
Keep running the football right? Of course not. Let's do the super-risky play: Palmer passing wildly and receivers slipping, on two. With 4:07 left in the third quarter and Cincinnati lined up at Carolina's 42-yard line, Palmer aired a second-down pass about two feet over Chad Ochocinco's head. On third down, the Panthers brought three defensive linemen. Dennis Roland took on the defensive end. Because it looked so awesome, Roland spun around in mid-block, even using the wildly successful "butt blocking" the defensive end. As a result of said awesome block, Palmer is forced up into the pocket and throws a "holy crap I'm going to get hit again" lame duck skip pass to Andre Caldwell. Bengals punt.
THERE YOU ARE. With 10:01 left in the game, Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith caught his first pass of the game.
THEN THE BENGALS SEAL THE GAME. With just under nine minutes left in the game, Clausen hands off to Jonathan Stewart. Linebacker Dhani Jones punches the football out with the top of his helmet. Robert Geathers lowers his big left mitt and picks up the fumble at the Panthers' 37-yard line.
After two passes that went for 30 yards to Jermaine Gresham and Terrell Owens, the Bengals lined at Carolina's seven yard-line. Palmer fakes the hand and hits Cedric Benson in the right flats, while three Panther players defended Terrell Owens, freeing up Benson for the receiving touchdown.
Just as the Bengals were getting ready to go for two, Kyle Cook was called for a false start and the Bengals went for the extra point instead. Cook = Gout.
PLAYER OF THE GAME: We didn't really address the team's defense much because we really didn't need to. They are the anchors of this team. While Cincinnati's offense does anything from being really bad to being disastrously smelly -- like raw fish sitting in room temperature for a week smelly -- the defense did exactly what the Bengals needed. At some point, guys like Carson Palmer, Dennis Roland, Chad Ochocinco, Dennis Roland, Andrew Whitworth, Kyle Cook, Bobbie Williams, Dennis Roland and Dennis Roland should give the defense a portion of their checks. No way is this team 2-1 if they're not for this defense.
KEVIN HUBER LIKE GOLF, DECIDES TO PLAY GOLF: We could give a Special Teams Player of the Game to Mike Nugent. But we don't have to. Kevin Huber, the Bengals' 2009 fifth round draft pick, was tremendous. Of his six punts that averaged 38.2 yards/punt, three feel inside the five-yard line with no punts, I repeat no punts, being returned by Carolina. With 11 minutes left in the first quarter, Huber punts the football to Carolina's four-yard line. The Panthers go three-and-out. With 7:45 left in the second quarter, Huber punts to Carolina's two-yard line. Panthers go three-and-out. With 3:56 left in the third quarter, Huber punts the football to Carolina's 11-yard line. Panthers go three-and-out. With 11:41 left in the game, Huber punts to the Panthers' 16-yard line. Panthers pick up several yards before Stewart loses the football and Robert Geathers returns the fumble to the Bengals 37-yard line. Three plays later and the Bengals take a 20-7 lead. Huber punts to the Panthers' two-yard line. Carolina moves the football on a drive that ends with an incomplete pass on fourth down.
Bengals win.
ITS NOT THAT THE OFFENSE IS TERRIBLE. All things considered, the Bengals offense wasn't that bad. Honestly. They picked up 21 first downs, 120 yards rushing and consumed nearly 40 minutes of the game. They are struggling in the redzone and on third downs. But the truth is, Cincinnati's offense isn't losing football games. They're sure as hell not winning them. But three weeks in, the Bengals are 2-1 and that's reason enough to cheer and party all night. Well, until 11 PM at least -- because I have to work tomorrow.
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Maybe I'm crazy..
But I remember a time in Bengaldom where the media wouldn’t blast the Bengals for winning. Who cares if Carson isn’t in ‘05 form we’re flippin winning!
by Manpaw on Sep 26, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Say that now
Hope your still singing this tune after the Bengals play the likes of Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Jets, etc… If you are then they managed to pull some pretty big games out of their ass! THey won’t get far with Palmer in today’s form!
by Vman in Germany on Sep 26, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed he has to step it up something fierce
But will he? We can only hope. Benson doesn’t have to worry about carries, come Nov and Dec he will be getting twice the load
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 27, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
If he gets 54 carries in a game
the poor guy might never walk again
by pedro_oliveira on Sep 27, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
double the load
not double the carries
:)
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 27, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
ever see what became of earl campbell?
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I felt that way after the Baltimore game
I am not thrilled with the offense, but we had a solid win. Carolina was never truely in the game yesterday. We are 1-1 on the road, and 1-0 at home, with a win over a play-off team. Yes we need to improve, but I am excited about having a chance to move to 2-1 on the road against Cleveland and the chance to be 4-1 at the bye. Road wins in the NFL are rarely easy.
1st down play-action
Benson’s 1st career receiving TD was on a 1st down play-action pass. Bengals ran two 1st down pay-action plays on last drive for good yardage and a TD. Good thing the bar that i was in had a defibrillator on the wall and wood floors to break my fall. Palmer played very uninspired ball today, lucky to survive the letdown. BRATSUCKSKI still must go!
by Vman in Germany on Sep 26, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
...Nugent could roundhouse kick the country of Iran and end nuclear development any time he wanted.
Classic.
"I really dig Hannibal. Hannibal had real guts. He rode elephants into Cartilage." - Mike Tyson
Nugent Bengals Fan
See what happens when you let Bengal fans play for the Bengals!
by Vman in Germany on Sep 26, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry Mardy
But even if this were true, Shipley is still playing great.
by Doc Scratch on Sep 26, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to say it
Shipley>Gilyard
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 27, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm happy as hell nugent is here
paul brown loved to bring mid-west guys to cincy, mike brown not-so-much.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
It's really hard to pass judgment on Carson Palmer Sunday, who threw with a slippery football on a slippery football field for the supporting cast around him.
Unless, of course, you are Andy Furman. Oh, I meant Lance McAlister.
He now calls Palmer “Jim Everett”. feh
I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?
Really?
The distance he was off on throws today would be like Bronson Arroyo hitting Marty Brennaman with a pitch in the press box & calling it a bad day because of a fingernail issue.
by Vman in Germany on Sep 26, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Post
Informative, for people that weren’t able to catch the game and humorous enough to help celebrate the good things and help ease the pain of the bad. Great job Josh.
Playing Conditions
Love to see how people want to let the team (the offense) off the hook because of playing conditions. All of these state of the art fields with their drainage systems, not buying it. Remember when the centers would wear a towel on their backsides so QBs could dry their hands before a snap? All the sports technology now as opposed to early days of football. Truth is players & coaches don’t appear to be as smart as the Vince Lombardi’s of yesteryear & figure out ways to adapt gameplans to field & weather conditions. Weather is part of the game, if rain was the cause of the poor play, then I argue poor coaching was the cause of not making correct adjustments.
by Vman in Germany on Sep 26, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
They showed some glimpses of the field.
It was horribly torn up. I can’t believe this is state-of-the-art technology if they’re replacing the field every week.
by Doc Scratch on Sep 26, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
But yeh, I really don't want to give excuses for it.
The offense just played bad. I did see a few passes that might’ve been completions had Chad not slipped because of the tough conditions (or actually just dropped it) but it was more on Palmer to put them where he wouldn’t have to slide to catch them.
by Doc Scratch on Sep 26, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i try so hard to ignore your comments but they just suck me in.
it makes me wonder how you are in other areas of your life…
weddings – “the ceremony was long, the ice sculptures melted by the end of the night and the free beer wasn’t cold enough. the DJ didn’t play my song request either… nobody DJs like Frankie Knuckles anymore…”
school plays – “my son was the lead but he forgot like 2 lines and made a fool of himself. the sets were incredible, but the lighting was way too harsh and the sound system was a joke. poor excuse for theater.”
winning big in vegas – “i won $8500 playing blackjack but that stool i sat on all night made my ass hurt worse than getting kicked by a mule. plus i’ll probably have to pay a butt-load in taxes and the free drinks were made with such cheap booze that it gave me a dull headache that most people would ignore but is severely hindering my idea of perfection. i’m a disgrace to gambling. Jerry Buss would be ashamed of me.”
i’m just messing with ya. in too good a mood to really give a shit about negativity right now. let’s go play in the rain!
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
Give me more Frostee!
A monster sack, that bat-down and numerous good QB pressures. I’m not saying he should start or anything, I just want him on the field.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
I've always appreciated what Frostee does when he's able to get on the field.
Due to them starting Geathers/Odom (sometimes unwarrented-ly) and his injuries it hasn’t been much, but the guy’s a pro. All he does is make plays.
by Craig Conrad on Sep 26, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I said they should've cut him during final cuts.
This game proved to me that I was dead wrong on this guy. Hopy ****.
by Doc Scratch on Sep 26, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The Snowman!!
doin work
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 27, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
rucker and crocker both destroyed the emu
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Trying to see the glass half full.....
I know the offense looked putrid most of the day. However, being 2-1 after the first three games of the season and starting out with NE and Baltimore, things could be much worse. 2-1 with a struggling offense is better than 0-3 with a struggling offense. Oh yeah, and Zimmer is the freaking man.
on the half full side
look how bad baltimore and carolina looked against us. and the pats, it was game one in a stadium we never do well in. if the pats had played here, we could be 3-0.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I love the way Huber can control a football game
Today is exactly why we picked him up from UC. He can continually pin teams back so that our defense can swallow up offenses deep in their own territory.
He and Nugent
Saving our kick-return teams by being awesome at what they do.
by Doc Scratch on Sep 26, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
provided huber and nugent stay healthy
we appear to be set at punter/kicker for the next 10-15 years.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I give Palmer credit for finally owning up to his mistakes in the press conference
It looked like Marvin was about to have a stroke though. Next week is a huge game for us, I hope Palmer, Ocho, and TO can get there issues worked out and the offense has their breakout game. How great would it be being 3-1, 2-0 in the division, going in to play the bucs?
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Wouldn’t happen to have a link to the press conference, would you? I almost never get to see them anymore.
by GrizzlyRider on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Mothership takes care of ya
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 27, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Reply to:
Winning football games isn’t always about the quarterback for Cincinnati. We’re not like the Colts, the Saints or even the Chargers; teams that live and die by the pass.
I agree 100%, but why pay a guy 100 million to have a run offense? To protect the ball and not make turnovers? Fail
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Nice Write Up
Great article, I laughed out loud several times. A fake punt, effective screens, and a game-winning-style pass attempt to Caldwell yet what happened to the offensive coordinator?
With our outstanding O-line performance, I sometimes wish Carson had some wheels on him. How does one invest a huge amount of money in a QB and surround it with this average O-line? Brilliant way to protect your investment, Andre Smith is a bust at this point. The whole entire offense needs to get it together, but Shipley and Gresham are succeeding.
Compared to the O, I’m 10x more excited when watching the Z-fense. I love seeing production out of players like Rucker. Hell, I was excited to see Geathers do something and recover that fumble. Zimmer does nothing but impress and win football games.
The Bottom line....
Is that a Win is a Win is a WIN. Even with the passing game looking ugly, it now appears that we should be able to take a 4-1 record into the bye week so long as the D continues to step up and the offense doesnt get any worse.
WITH THAT SAID
Something has to be done with the passing game. After the bye week, the D is not going to be able to hold the Colts, Chargers, Saints, Falcons etc. to 10 points. We are going to need to score! Palmer really looks bad, the protection is shaky, and the playbook looks stale and unimaginative with predictive playcalling that is just as bad. Where is the No-huddle? Where are the 5 wide sets? Where are the big plays? Its like groundhogs day every Sunday with the offense sometimes.
I’ll take the win and Im proud of the Defense, but there is reason for concern if things dont start to gel in the next few weeks.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
If the O-line can get its mess together...
Palmer’s play will greatly improve.
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 27, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
cook and roland are a mess this year
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Check out Cincinnati.com and look at the video about GABP with Marty B.
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It really is frustrating to be a Bengals fan
Especially as I have little trust in this coaching staff. We all point to Palmer as being a mess and rightfully so, however the coaching staff is the biggest problem and it isn’t just Bratkowski. Lewis has to take a lot of the blame for this as well.
I hate to say it but I really hope that the coaching staff (minus Zimmer) all leave after this year and that we get a fresh start next year. I think Palmer still has a few good years left in him but I feel like he’s not being put in the best position to succeed.
Oh well. I will continue to hope that one day, Lewis and Bratkowski will realize where our strengths lie and instead of sticking to an offensive philosophy that is predicated on grinding out a win, they’ll actually start trying to put pressure on the other tearms. That means, playing Smith, running no huddle, using screen passes in terrible weather, giving more carries to Scott and using Gresham in the red zone.
Marvin Lewis is Bengals coach
I agree with on most things except the Marvin Lewis comment. Lewis took a team that was pretty much the worst team in the NFL and turned it into a team that can make the playoffs. Lewis, has been one of the best things to happen to the Bengals. We all know that we will never find a better coach than Marvin Lewis.
Also, give Palmer time. Palmer will get better. Plus we can’t blame it all on Palmer. The offensive line must take most of the blame. What I don’t get is that our O-line is good when it comes to the run game but lets everyone on the D-line through when it’s a passing play. We just have to get better in the pass protection.
I think we will be alright. Gresham gets better every day. Scott doesn’t get as many carries but to me that is okay. If we have a guy like Ced Benson, Scott doesn’t really need to play. Plus we have the great receiving back of Brian Leonard.
by Justin Noland on Sep 27, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
very funny summation, particularly the gout part
actually in hindsight the gresham/shipley factor is just enough to make the smelly fish offense edible.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 27, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions
the false starts and 3rd and short non conversions
are unacceptable. somebody needs to be fired.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 27, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions
Yes Brat does ;)
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by TennBengalfan on Sep 27, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
i'd settle for cook and roland running gassers
daily until the next game
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
RE: 3rd and short
Brat has used B.Scott twice this year in 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 1 or 2…..WTF!!!!!!
it comes down to mind over matter....if you don't mind, it won't matter
James Walker on Palmer
Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer continue his slow start by throwing for 195 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. Palmer has a lot of new weapons in the passing game this year, so there is no excuse for him not to produce, particularly when he’s turning over the football. Palmer’s passer ratings in the first three games this season have gone from 92.5 to 60.1 to 53.3 against the Panthers.
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Missed one great moment in the summary: The helicopter tackle
Johnson and Hall put on a thump to stop a first down.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
We punished the Panther's out there!
Hat’s off to the Defense. Just when it looked like the rookie was getting underway, he gets some smackdown.
Offensive? Yes! It was. And it was a team effort as well. Carson did make a lot of good throws, sadly of which were dropped like bad insurance covereage. TO and Chad sucked. Gresham and Shipley should have gotten a lot more balls. Benson did just fine, but Brat’s playcalling was screwing him over. Benson likes the gaps, keep him there. Scott likes the outside and can turn and burn. Try using him to do that instead of Benson, that’s not what he’s good at.
O line make me walk out of the bar at halftime and check old crack vials in the alley to see if any crumbs were in there. You guys played together last year, right?
2010 - The Year of the Tiger.
We need a LG and C
Nate Livings is getting abused. Kyle Cook was abused to a lesser extent this week, but he just isn’t any good.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Evan Mathis should be playing
No idea what is happening to Cook.
The coaching on this team is atrocious. No idea why Mathis and Smith aren’t playing.
Smith isn't playing because he is a big tub of goo
Mathis can’t be any worse than Livings, I agree that he should be given a shot.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
From what I've read
He’s under his 350 max which means he’s not that big of a tub of goo. And he can’t be any worse than Roland. At least Smith has talent. Let him learn on the field how to use it. Let him get hit on a weekly basis and show a bit of a mean side. He won’t get experience or better if he’s not playing and as we saw last night, Roland is awful. It can’t be any worse with Smith.
aside from whitworth
everyone on sunday’s o-line is suspect.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Anybody know
Does anybody know why big smith was deactivated for the game. That’s a pretty bold move. Deactivating 2009 6 pick of draft. I want so bad for this guy to start. He was such a badass at Alabama. U just don’t lose that ability.
by Cal581x on Sep 27, 2010 11:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not a bad review
But I’m sure some people would appreciate it if you used the jump.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
No excuses
I didn’t see the game, so thanks Kirkendall for the recap.
Sounds like the O line was terrible but I am tired of hearing excuses for Palmer. Wet field, wet ball, I don’t think a wet field would ever keep Peyton Manning or Drew Brees from completing passes. Marvin better start planning for Palmer’s replacement because the second half of this year is going to get ugly and you can’t expect the running game to carry the load against Indy, New Orleans and Atlanta. The Panther’s are mediocre at best and our offense should have scored at least 3 TDs. Also, it sounds like Chad isn’t running routes very well. Maybe he needs to pay more attention to his paying job.
I love the play of our rookies. Too bad the veterans can’t keep up.
Looks like Mike Nugent has returned to his Ohio State form. He was so awesome in college.

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