Completed: Bengals Trade CB David Jones For Jaguars Safety Reggie Nelson
by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:23 PM EDT
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After announcing their 53-man roster that included only three safeties on the team's roster -- with Chris Crocker being the lone free safety -- Adam Schefter reports that the Bengals are a finalizing a trade between cornerback David Jones and safety Reggie Nelson.
Nelson, a 2007 first round pick out of the University of Florida, recorded a career-high 70 tackles in 2009, playing in all 16 games. With seven career interceptions and 20 passes defensed, Nelson seems like he'd be a good addition on a team short of safeties. And of those safeties that are on the team, all of them suffered a minor injury at some point during the preseason.
I would still expect the Bengals to engrossed in the league's waiver wire to find more help.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
five Lewis credit for this one..
He and del Rio have good relationship. Steal. m
by quickslant on Sep 4, 2010 8:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Media doesn't
PFT and Pete King point out Nelson’s biggest flaw – he can’t tackle. Not much of a problem if he’s in for coverage/int mainly.
Maybe he can tackle
once Zimmer gets a hold of him.
by IllinoisBengal on Sep 4, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha, jinx. You owe me a coke.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll quickly get acquainted with Mike Zimmer's attitude and readjust.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
They underestimate Zimmer
Zimmer will get him tackling in no time. Look at the lousy tackling that was going on when Zimmer came to Cincy.
From Football Outsiders:
The Jaguars were actually so desperate they started Reggie Nelson at corner in 2009. The Gator hero looked promising as a rookie, but his game has fallen apart the last two seasons. He retains the physical ability to be a very good cover free safety, but the mental side of his game seems lacking, as he struggles greatly to get in the
right position. He also remains a particularly poor tackler. More likely to start is strong safety Gerald Alexander. Though he topped the team in blown tackles and his pass charting numbers are a product of playing in the box and the Jaguars’ other weaknesses, he is much better than the alternatives.
Sounds like a fourth safety — but nice to hear he can cover, a glaring weakness of our safeties.
Reggie Nelson anit that great...
but he’s better than david jones and the depth we have at safety (ie a rookie)
so it seems like a decent move
Let's also face facts.
He played with the Jaguars. Not to rip that team or anything, but now he’s going to a team that’s a post-season contender and, my own ignorance included, isn’t on a team that’s particularly disciplined.
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"isn’t on a team that’s particularly disciplined" meaning the Jags
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Del Rio is a bit of an enigma in some ways. I think he WOULD like to discipline things up, but can’t seem to make it work. But he’s tried to be nice before, it wasn’t working, so he tried to be harsh, and that didn’t work either. Or at least that’s the impression I get from limited knowledge of the team.
not exaclty an easy order to find a starting safety on sept 4th,
less than 8 days before the start of the season.
give the bengals credit, david jones wasn’t going to stick here and it lets the bengals get depth at safety.
nelson ain’t Reed or Polamalu. but he’s better than what we had at safety depth.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Speaking of which, I’m kinda bummed Reed was Pup’d. Even though we saw it coming it’s still a big blow. Hopefully Zbi will step-up. But really, I think Nelson is underrated. With Mike Zimmer teaching, I’m sure he will prosper in your guy’s defense. The fact that he played fairly well in a crap team, shows that he has potential. Now if you move him to a respectable team, he will only get better.
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Sep 4, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Coverage safety will do just fine.
Nelson arrives,he will see plenty of action soon. The safety that can cover deep centre feild or who has the speed over the top is what we miss.
Cool
Dropped a Nelson, gained a Nelson. Let’s hope he’s not similar to the departing Nelson because it’d be very depressing if this Nelson wasn’t better than that Nelson.
This is another indication
that this team wants to win now. Nelson was highly regarded obviously to be a #1 pick, but as mentioned above this is a low risk trade. We fill a need. They fill a need. Hopefully, Zim can get RN to blossom. I like it.
Of course it is
I’m just worried because Reggie sounds a bit like Tom—good coverage but weak tackling ability. It became fairly evident that Tom Nelson struggled to make tackles last season, especially in the jets and chargers games. Bringing in a guy with similar-sounding issues doesn’t sound like a fix.
Granted, Nelson has been a 1st-round draft pick starter while Nelson was a fourth-string rookie free agent, so I guess that Reggie is better, but I’m still mildly worried.
I see
The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......
by Zachary Beard on Sep 4, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
okay smart move to get something for david jones
but man, cutting Coffman? couldn’t they just pretend he was injured an stuck on him on IR
RE:
I guess they figure there’s really no use for him.
I mean, really. Is he going to be a receiving tight end? Sure, after Gresham. And it’s not like we’re going to fool anyone putting Coffman out there as a blocker. So if people are going to cover Coffman, then why not just put Shipley out there.
I can understand why they did it. Coffman was a nice thought last year, but this team has moved on apparently and found no reason to keep him on the team.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What you cannot have two tight ends who can catch the ball?
That makes no sense.
Waiving a third round pick who never played a down = SHITTY SCOUTING AND DRAFTING!
by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 4, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Be that as it may
They didn’t want him.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Or
It’s called having so much depth that he isn’t needed.
Seriously guys. I know it’s been a while since we’ve had depth, but a lot of the perennial winners don’t keep 3rd and 4th round picks the year before.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 4, 2010 7:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d love to believe that’s what it is. But I’d need too much rose tint on my glasses, plus a full frontal lobotomy, to buy it.
Sorry, but no. The reason he was cut was simple. 1) crappy scouting (as OTT points out) to not realize that he wasn’t going to fit our system, and 2) an OC who can’t figure out how to use him some other way.
Do you even watch football?
Haha. I kid. But seriously. Coffman could not get separation from most of the leagues nickel corners. He’s not a WR. Why all the Coffman man love? We don’t need him. It’s that simple. We might later in the season and maybe they think they can get him on the PS.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 5, 2010 9:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what if Gresham gets injured?
plus Coffman has the potential to be a very good NFL tight end if given time ( i mean thats what they were telling us all along…) and i just get the feeling that they didn’t really give him a shot to make it – which is sad for Coffman and a total waste of a draft pick.
I think he would technically be able to re-sign onto PS (not 100% sure) so maybe thats the intention
by Sheffieldbengal on Sep 4, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Possible RE: Practice Squad.
Last year wasn’t defined as an accrued season.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope so
I had big expectations of Chase still. I think he can be a deadly red zone weapon.
by Throw the ball on Sep 4, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He is eligiable for the Practice Squad
I see Coffman making the practice squad. I doubt anyone is going to sign him this week, and I will be very surprised if Coffman does not suit up for the Bengals this year. Making the 53 man roster is great and all, but the bottom ten spots are always changing. When Leonard returns I could see the Bengals releasing Peerman and bringing back Coffman.
well, that might be good for us
but wouldn’t be very nice to Coffman ;)
by nashville_chris on Sep 4, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a great trade
Look, David Jones is just a warm body on the roster. Nelson might flop completely — in fact that’s likely — but he’s got physical skills to be good if he got his head in the game and got some coaching. That’s the kind of risk that is actually worth taking.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 4, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
So you're saying come back to CincyJungle for all of your Bengals needs?
:)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn good question
I mean, Coffman got cut in what sounds like a numbers game, but simultaneously, why keep an injury-ridden end as a backup?
Because
Our d-line is banged up and needed an extra body. Our TEs are fine.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 4, 2010 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Frostee has a couple of plusses
I’m kind of with you in thinking he wasn’t necessary. However, Rucker plays both tackle and end. He is a hard worker and has been somewhat productive in his limited time playing. I think they opted to keep him because he has been around a while; which means he knows the system, is tight with the other players, brings some veteran leadership and is versatile along the Dline. Lets be honest. He’s only on the team as depth, so like brandone said, he is an extra body that fits what the team apparently wants.
Either that, or they are planning to trade him like they did with Jones. :D
I like Frostee
when he has been on the field he has made plays.He can also act as a swing man and jump inside.
watching our depth at safety in the preseason
was even worse….
oh and enjoy David Jones… just don’t watch the last preseason game if you have a weak heart
by Sheffieldbengal on Sep 4, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Just a heads up on Nelson, in all seriousness:
He’s a terrible tackler who takes bad angles (watch TB highlights) and he bites on play-action all the time.
Freak athlete, but not very smart and he’s soft.
yeah it looks like a trade
of one man’s trash for another
by Sheffieldbengal on Sep 4, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what they said
About orien Harris for Brian Leonard.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 4, 2010 7:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And David Jones
is an all star.
LOL
by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 4, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
enjoy d jones
jags are bowlbound now baby!
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Not bad
I like this trade. Confused about Coffman…
by DonMegga on Sep 4, 2010 6:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i'm not
he failed to beat out 33 year old kelly.
he failed to beat out a handless gimp named coats.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
I'm confused about how in the space of about ten years
the Bengals could pick not one but two tight ends in round 3 who never played a down for them.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 4, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you've made your point about TEs in about the last three posts.
:)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you be sure?
I’ve never seen Coats or Kelly haul in a pass on 4th and 17 to give the team a first down. Even if it was preseason, he still did it.
Kelly won because he’s the primary blocker. Coats won because he’s versatile. That’s truly it. Josh broke it down earlier, he’s primarily a receiver and the Bengals already have receivers to do that. All the other TEs offer versatility. Coffman didn’t. I hate it, I want him on the practice squad so he can join the team once Reggie retires or someone gets injured, but them’s the way.
Re: Coffman
It seems like they just didn’t want to have to depend on his blocking ability. He wasn’t able to hold down the edge pass in pass blocking when called upon. Run blocking wasn’t any better. But still surprising they gave up on him this quickly but the quality depth at DL and other positions forced their hand. I think they really kept the best 53.
Another thing to note....
since when did the Bengals trade players for players? haha whats that… two in two years?
i believe in zimmer
damn when was the last time i said that about a bengals defensive coordinator. paul brown was still alive. been a long time.
if zimmer thinks he can work with nelson to get his head straightened out and all it cost us was the bengals 6th db, david jones, yeah i like that trade. i like that trade a whole bunch.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
So do I
Believe me, Nelson’s got the talent (from the sounds of it) and Zimmer did great things with Adam Jones in just a few months’ worth of time.
Anyone thinking Jax got the better of the trade is more bitter than we are about Simpson.
Both Nelson and Jones have been in the league 3 years, but Nelson has 36 more starts, 130 more tackles, 7 more Int and 13 more Passes defensed. Even if we gave up a 6th rounder, our last 6 6th rounders got sent to the Practice squad, and I only go back that far because I begin to forget 6th rounders. Who was before that? Matt Sherry?
paul brown wasn’t alive in 2001, when dick lebeau was d-coordinator.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
i didnt believe in lebeau during his second tenure
from 97-02 what did the bengals do?
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
1984-1991
that was when LeBeau was our defensive cord and paul brown was alive.
as for 2001, those bengals were 6-10. defense gave up 3200 yards passing 1700 yards rushing and close to 5000 total yards. and held one of the worse point differentials in the nfl (PTs vs PTo) in 2001 at -83.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
lebeau was also the defensive coordinator before he was promoted to head coach. in 2000 or 2001 (maybe i had the year wrong), the defense, led by lebeaus as coordinator, was number 10.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
Yep! your right and
that is why he got the Head Coaching job here. MB thought that as a damn good DC, Lebeau would had made a great head coach.
he got the head coaching job b/c
the other head coach quit mid season.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Why did MB sign him to a multi year contract?
Let me answer that. B/c he thought that he would make a great HC.
It was a matter of time before Bruce Coselett was cut loose and Dick Lebeau was named HC anyways. Dick was going to be the next HC here no matter what, b/c MB thought he would make a great HC. Another one of MBs brainiac ideas.
Too bad we cut Orien Harris
Maybe we could have traded him instead.
Back to St. Louis for another RB?
:)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I was joking
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And St. Louis doesn't have anther RB
that isn’t named Jackson anyway.
by IllinoisBengal on Sep 4, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I was joking - Part II
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by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 4, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm fine with this.
DJ was a goner, at least we got something out of it. If he’s better in coverage than Rico Murray, it’s an improvement.
I hope we find OL depth to replace either Livings or Roland, though. And I wouldn’t complain if we got a fullback…
think they were speculating
still have not seen official word on that
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
tampa's cut list
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Notable cuts: WR Michael Clayton, QB Jevan Snead.
Others: OT Demar Dotson, CB Brandon Anderson, S Vince Anderson, RB Carlos Brown, C Jonathan Compas, G Marc Dile, OT Xavier Fulton, DE George Johnson, TE Jeron Mastrud, LB Rico McCoy, DT Dre Moore, DT Carlton Powell, TE Ryan Purvis, C Donovan Raiola, CB Derrick Roberson, LB Lee Robinson, DE James Ruffin, FB Rendrick Taylor, CB Trae Williams.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
hmmm
i love Zimmer as much as a man can love another man he has never met, nor wil meet (which turns out to be alot) but he isn’t a miracle worker and the most i’m hoping for is comming up with schemes etc that cover his weaknesses (such as he does to Roy Williams)
by Sheffieldbengal on Sep 4, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
But here's the thing
Kevin coyle is a great dbs coach. Nelson had a pro bowl caliber season his rookie year. He can do it, he just needs direction and I think our impeccable defensive coaches can do that.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 4, 2010 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Some really good coaches teach their players how to play
without thinking. I’m not talking about mindless football either. The really good coaches can drill the necessary lessons into a player and allow him to react in game situations without thinking. Whether we have any coaches on the team that can do that, I’m not certain. But it’s possible.
Jags fans are laughing
Over on their board they are saying they would have traded Reggie for one of those pink lawn flamingos. They say he has great athletic ability but cannot learn his job mentally. One thing we have that they don’t, though, is Ziimmer. I expect he will get the best out of Reggie.
its ok
bengals fans will be laughing when the jags start david jones. and laughing again when he’s cut before the end of the season.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
the value we see is the conditional draft pick for next year
we suck at safety and know it. We would have taken a bag of used hocky pucks for Nelson. The fact that we may get any kind of a draft pick is cause for ‘dancing in the streets’ for us Jags fans.
Nelson is a good guy and I do wish him well – I’m delighted that bust is no longer on our roster though.
Here’s the book on him – outstanding athletic ability – 5 cent head for the game. Beyond horrible tackler – he takes bad angles, and is out of position often. Will dive at the feet of any ball carrier as opposed to actually tackling them. If your guys can ‘coach him up’ more pwer to you.
We have Zimmer
But we have Mike Zimmer, and you don’t don’t. Don’t you know he took a team full of lousy tacklers and turned them into the No. 4 defense?
little strange
that they’re laughing about trading away their 2007 1st round pick for a player picked 100-odd spots behind him in the same draft.
we needed a veteran 4th safety. they needed a CB. why do fans get so enamored in “winning” trades that are less than a day old…
by nashville_chris on Sep 4, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it.
I think it was a smart trade. Bengals are deep at CB and need a good Saftey. I like this deal a lot. I think Zimmer will show why Reggie was a #1 pick.
Fact: Coffman was Redundant
We no longer can afford to keep a pass catching TE who cannot block my 6 yr. old daughter. Still a run-first team that relies on a blocking TE to chip the end and block the ’backer on running plays.
Good trade
Was it straight up Jones for Nelson? If so, they stole Nelson. Nelson is the type of safety they need—they already have 3 that can tackle, they need a centerfielder type. Nelson is that guy.
SUPER bummed that Briscoe and Coffman are gone. Almost as bummed as Coats making the team over those two—worst decision I’ve ever seen.
by Anthony Cosenza on Sep 4, 2010 7:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
its been beaten black and blue in the forums
feeling is that coats made the team b/c he could block. and coffman didn’t b/c he couldn’t.
as for briscoe, if he fails to make the practice squad, expect the simpson haters to become more vocal the longer he stays on the team.
and yes, the trade was a 1 for 1, david jones for reggie nelson.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Conditional pick included
per Reedy the Bengals throw in a conditional pick in 2011.
Coats = good call. Coats > Kelly.
In what world is Coats better than Reggie Kelly?
Save for the fact he’s much younger, he isn’t even in the same zip code as Reggie. Reggie catches whatever’s thrown to him (though it isn’t often), and he’s the only tight end that blocks well enough for AFCN defensive coordinators to plan around.
In this world
Have you been watching Kelly the last few years. he was on his way down in 2008 and Coats was a better blocker this preseason. I don’t give a crap if Coats can catch, that’s not what he is here for. No AFCN D-coordinator is planning around Kelly now. He’s done. He’s here because Carson is his best bud.
kelly is here to mentor gresham
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Keeping Coats helps the team
He’s the best blocking TE on the roster (love Kelley but Coats is now a better blocker). In addition, I hear he had an injured finger last year. He’s not going to be targeted on passing plays, but if his finger’s healed, he might improve his catching skills. Much more versatile than Coffman.
Sorry dude
But there’s no argument you can give saying that Dan “shat on the” Coats is a better player to have than Coffman. Coats is the worst player at the NFL level that I’ve ever seen.
by Anthony Cosenza on Sep 4, 2010 7:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Come on now
You must be very young or just started watching the NFL because I could name half of the players that played for us the 90’s and you’d take Coats.
Gresham makes Coffman worthless. In 2009 when we drafted Coffman, we did not know we would be drafting Gresham in ’10, making him worthless to us. With that said, there is a good shot he ends up on our practice squad along with Briscoe.
RE:
Not only was Coats kept as a blocking TE (duh) but also we have no fullback. He’s a FB/TE.
by jimbasa on Sep 4, 2010 8:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the universe hates us.
if coats hadn’t of caught that pass last week, would he still be here, maybe, maybe not.
what were the odds against a successful catch from coats in pre-season week 4.. man i wish he had dropped that ball.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Nelson will have to tackle too
If he starts missing tackles its not likely anyone will say at least the other 3 can tackle. But Mike Lombardi of NFL network said he thinks Zimmer may be able to turn his career around.
Nelson performed at a very high level in his rookie year
He got complacent and if I remember correctly, Jax was not any good the past couple years. Winning and attitude can be infectious, I think Zimm will do some darn good things with him.
Reedy twitters that the Bengals also
giving up a conditional draft pick for Nelson.
Not so good if it’s higher than late round.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 4, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
I read the artilcle on the Jags SBN site
and it cracks me up that they think Reggie Nelson was SOOOO terrible. If he was that bad why was he on their roster? And how can they be that excited that they got David Jones? A 4th year guy now on his 3rd team that was our 6th corner? I’m stumped as to how Nelson can be that bad and on an NFL team
its ok, we're the team that drafted smith in the 1st round
so you know..we will have to see..
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Nelson was a beast at Florida
Those skills didn’t magically vanish…..I have faith that Zimmer can get production out of him.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Nelson play special teams in Jax?
Anybody know? It’d be nice if he’s also a Kyries Hebert replacement on the SP squad.
He never played ST
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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 4, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither did a lot f people here
Until Lewis and Simmons got a hold of them.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 5, 2010 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have no idea how good this guy is or the conditional pick
But considering I would’ve been happy with used toilet paper for Reggie Nelson,
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by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 4, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
We lost nothing and gained a body
Great so that’s DJ for Nelson sorted.
Brizcoe was unlucky but Simpson has looked good in pre-season and 3rd year WR might have started to get it.
TE wise, yeah Clanghands Coats is terrible but now our primary FB. I’d like to see us go after Spencer Havner who GB cut for no reason – he is versatility personified.
great trade
Even if Nelson sucks, we would have cut Jones for a saftey anyways, so we basically got him for a late rd pick, and look at the late rd picks this year, practice squad or cut pretty much. This team is deep enough where late rd picks arent as important as they used to be. And like everyone says, Zimmer can get this guys potential, look how bad our D was with in some cases better talent than when Zimmer was here and look what hes done to this D. About the not tackling thing, before Zimmer this whole team couldnt tackle, but I will use JJoe as an example. JJoe was known as a finesse not very physical corner, now he physical and plays the run well. I have confidence in Zimmer but worse case scenerio we traded a guy that was going to be cut, and a late rd pick, for a former first rounder with plenty of talent.
Jax sister sight
loves the trade too. Surprised they got anything for Reggie Nelson but glad to see him go.
Bet he’s glad for the change of scenery too.
I think anyone would be hard pressed to find
another team that has done more with the castoffs from other teams. Welcome aboard Reggie. I hope you shine.
I've watched a couple of highlight vids and focused on him
I swear at one point, he bounced off the receiver.
This guy is gonna need a lot of work.
LOL if you guys think this was a "steal" on your part...
We were going to cut that liability anyway, so to get a player AND a pick for him is a miricle, haha I once said I was gonna trade for Nelson and then I got hungry and ate the sandwich I was gonna trade him with. The dude was really, REALLY bad for us. Just to put it into a little perspective watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yec92sIjn2I
Sorry it is not a steal at all, it might be a steal for the Jags as I said we were cutting the dude anyway. Oh well, keep thinking the guy has “amazing” coverage abilities if he starts for you, be ready to cry because he is gonna play patty cake with the WR.
And we were cutting Jones anyways.
Zim can get the guy to tackle, unlike the coaching staff of the Jags.
And Jones isn’t anything special either. I think you’ll like him well enough and he’s not horrible but he’s not worth giving up a former first rounder for.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
Ah, but we have good coaching...
We have Zimmer, and you don’t. I guarantee Zimmer saw something in Nelson he thought he could work with, or he wouldn’t be here.
bengals didnt’ get nelson so that he can start, at least not this year.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
Agreed
He looks like a better #4 safety than Murray, Nelson, or Hebert.
I wouldn’t call the trade a steal, as it is easy to trade guys instead of cutting them to look on the waiver wire, but I do think this was a solid trade, not because of Nelson’s value, but because of the safety need with Wilson down.
"He's not worth giving up a former first rounder for"
Nelson was not worth a ham sandwich as we were going to cut him, and you guys gave up Jones and a pick. I am not being mean but people on here are acting as though Nelson is very teachable, which he is not, “teach him how to tackle” you really cannot teach that, maybe you can teach better angles but come on that takes years especially for Nelson, and that is not his only problem his problem is covering anything, if he is on a TE then do not expect anything. Anyways, I hope he works out, you guys got anything on Jones I should know?
Decent player. Got burned some in the last preseason game.
No one should be too excited about the trade on either side. Pointless exercise right now anyway.
I suppose at least Nelson has “upside” vs. Jones seemingly more polished game. I assume, in a defense made up of cast-offs, he’ll fit in fine.
by nashville_chris on Sep 5, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
got burned “some” in the last preseason game? he didn’t even turn around to find the ball. how do you not even turn around to find the damn ball?
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
The trade is currently someone who was going to be cut for someone that was going to be cut.
Congratulations on both sides.
Enjoy your conditional 7th round pick.
Haha, better than nothing
Also Virginia, he was going to get cut trust me on that.
Also, Mathis is not a "cast off"
And Cox is doing way well we just need a nickle, I think Jones can do that, and we need a FS because ours are not good at all.
I meant the Bengals defense
didn’t phrase it well :-)
Zim was fond of telling his players that they’re with the Bengals because other teams didn’t want them. So, in that respect, Nelson will fit in great :-P
by nashville_chris on Sep 5, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I just realized...
You guys have Roy Williams too, lol, if they are both starting, I cannot see how you guys would stop the WR from just running for a TD every play if the ball goes deep….
Cornerbacks. Pass rush.
Things the Jacksonville defense SEVERELY lack. They play a role in this sorta stuff, too, yanno.
by nashville_chris on Sep 5, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
b/c we have the best pair of corners going
not just in the afc north. in the nfl.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Poor Bengal fans...
You guys do not know what you are getting your selves into, you guys seem to be excited about getting NELSON, we are excited for getting anything for Nelson, if I heard that the Bengals sent over a spare tire that was flat for Nelson, I would have been happy. But, never fear if someone goes down you will see.
Lol Don't Worry
This scenario was gain a maybe for a nothing. We got another Nelson too. And he might be better than your safeties. I really wished Bengals and Jags played this year…fortunate for the Jags
zimmer can salvage nelson
if nelson has any talent left. now if nelson is just collecting a paycheck, he won’t finish 2010 in cincy.
"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl
Reggie Nelson
is probably a bum. But he’s a bum who once looked good enough to be a FIRST ROUND PICK and MADE THE ALL-ROOKIE TEAM after reaching the NFL.
David Jones is just a bum.
by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 5, 2010 1:59 AM EDT reply actions
We will see..
Like I said after Nelson’s rookie year he turned into garbage, you guys keep saying “PASS RUSH, PASS RUSH” but in his rookie year our pass rush was bad too, 2008, it was bad but not as bad as last year (2009), you wanna know the constant over those years? Yep, Reggie Freaking Nelson. You know how UF fans called him “THE ERASER!!!” well we called him the eraser too…..of leads.
In Zimmer we trust
The dude has potential and fits in with all of the cast offs on the team. Zimmer tought Joseph to be more physical and I think he can do the same with Nelson.
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