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Now that my Raven's have sign TJ Houshmanzadeh(Is that how you spell it?) I would like to know what exactly we are getting out of him. Can I get your guy's explanation on what he will bring to our team? And I need a couple of more words to post this post, so I typed this sentence explaining that, to fill the required amount of sentences. I still need a couple more.......

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You're getting a receiver good at going over the middle and getting the tough passes

However, you’re also getting a receiver that many in Cincinnati dislike for his comments towards the city, the fans, and the team after getting low-balled on a contract.

by Doc Scratch on Sep 6, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Money is the root of all evil. It can cause people to act in ways they never usually would. I honestly don’t think he meant any of the comments he said, and I bet you he is a shamed of them now.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly

I think he kinda wanted to come back here given the “I was the go-to guy” comments, but the Bengals just didn’t have room for him.

by Doc Scratch on Sep 6, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he will have a chip on his shoulder when he comes to CIncy, because IMO it kind of seems like he didn’t want to leave.

The Orioles are going to open a can of Buck-Wieser on your ass......

by Zachary Beard on Sep 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

he wanted to leave. the bengals offered almost the exact same amount of money the seahawks did; t.j. just wanted out.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Sep 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wanted to leave

cause he thought the Bengals weren’t going to win, but then he blew it by picking Seattle over Minn.

by occams_tiger_teeth on Sep 6, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

His attitude was part of the reason why things went sour so quickly after ‘05. Two dissapointing seasons in a row weren’t something that he (or Ocho for that matter) could handle. He’s a good player, but not a good leader by any stretch of the imagination.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Sep 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also wanted to leave

because he didn’t want to play second fiddle to Ocho.

TJ’s a good slot guy. He’s just not a #1 WR and that’s why he failed per se in Seattle.

2010 - The Year of the Tiger.

by UpStateMike on Sep 7, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You will be glad you signed him IMO

To bed honest I thought the Bengals and the Ravens were a pretty evenly matched contenders for the division title. I looks at position groups and came tot he conclusion that until Reed comes back we would be able to cover your receivers better than you could cover ours, the evening out factor being that your D line would be able to handle our Oline a bit better than ours would be able to handle yours. That would make our O’s pretty even with Rice giving you a slight edge, very slight, over Benson.

With TJ that changed. Flacco will have the additional big target over the middle that he needs. I thing this will make you a better O than before. The question is how effective will our new additions of TO, Gresham and Shipley be. Nobody knows. It is possible that they will be good enough to keep it even but even if they are as good as we think it will be a real dogfight and, much to the chagrin of my Bengal fan buds, I think TJ gives you the edge, but it will still be close. The Ravens just got better but still lack a real stretch the field WR until Stallworth returns. You will be better in the second half and I am not sure we will be able to keep up.

"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"

by JUNGLEJOHN on Sep 6, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jungle John

I like what you have to say very unbias on your part. I think everything you said was correct. It will be a dog fight that is why i think we split in the division.

by Bm0re blackout on Sep 6, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

A big mouth & a bad attitude

Its all about TJ not the team. Disruptive force in the locker room. Wait til he doesn’t get the reps he thinks he should and the sparks will start to fly. Oh, and wait for his exit interview. He will blast your team and coaches. Good luck with the soap opera.

by sofakingood on Sep 6, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

you’re WR corp contains OchoCinco and TO. And you’re telling us good luck with the soap opera. I’m struggling to contain my laughter at this statement

by TurtlePower88 on Sep 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at this way, we have TO and 85 and we think that TJ is disruptive.

by jim0ijk on Sep 7, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that’s definitely saying something.

by FriarBob on Sep 7, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

I was the go to guy

some of seattles thoughts

oh and the seahawks, who need a wr, paid him 8 million to go away. what does that say..

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Sep 6, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

That says Seattle is paying for him to play in Baltimore. Sounds like a good business decision by Ozzie to me…

by BAL_Hawk on Sep 6, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope ozzie spends 1.99 on some duct tape

and tells ray lewis to use it anytime TJ opens his mouth.

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Sep 6, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Now that would be a good business decision

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Sep 6, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL.

Too funny and too true.

by Dvdbumpus on Sep 6, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's good on 3rd downs and getting tough catches over the middle.

But like others have said, he’s a troublemaker and he has a really bad attitude. He’s a pretty big locker room problem.

"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison

by sexsalad on Sep 6, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

3rd down conversion machine. His attitude has been a problem lately, but I’m not willing to call him a ‘problem guy’ just yet. I think he has been frustrated lately. Does that excuse his diarrhea of the mouth? No, but I don’t think he’s as destructive a force as some in the media are making him out to be. Loved him when he was here.

by Phil Francis on Sep 6, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was a disruptive force in the locker room when he was here; he complained more than chad did, just not to the media.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Sep 6, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your right, Chad's antics overshadowed TJ's mouth

Although Chads antics are somewhat harmless, TJ has been the one that disrupted the team. We were looking at what Chad was doing and not TJ.

by WHYUS!! on Sep 6, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the locker room stuff is overrated

I wouldn’t expect TJ to be a problem in Baltimore any more than I expect TO to be a problem in Cincy.

But all he adds in Balti is another possession receiver, which they have plenty of. It’s certainly a good move, if only because it givens the Ravens a proven, experienced guy on another team’s dime, but I don’t know that it puts them over the top or anything.

by BeerRun on Sep 6, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

and a guy that is durable

he’s young and solid compared to mason and stallworth.

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Sep 6, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

stallworth is 4+ years removed from a real season

housh put up numbers last season in an offense that had no clue what to do with him. and always worked hard for us when on the field.

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Sep 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely overrated.

Has one move in his arsenal which is the 9 yard stop option to get 1st downs. Lacks top end speed, completely arrogant and stupid. The only reason he was productive in Cincy is because we only had 2 wide receviers during the last 8 years; him and Ocho. Will never be a #1 becuase he’s just not that good and his attitude sucks. Vanilla pick up for you guys.

by jimbasa on Sep 6, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Has one move in his arsenal which is the 9 yard stop option to get 1st downs.

First downs work for me. Thanks.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

No prob. Enjoy.

He aint gettin you to the playoffs though.

by jimbasa on Sep 7, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, Boldin and Ray Rice are.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep dreaming.

Last year I predicted on your SB blog that our defense would not only be top 5 in the league, but that it would be better than yours. You can imagine the response I got from deuches like yourself.

I predict this year you won’t make the playoffs.

by jimbasa on Sep 7, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Scrm Plys Yds/G Yds/P 1st/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd Pct 4th Md 4th Att 4th Pct Pen Pen Yds ToP/G FUM Lost
1 New York Jets 16 14.8 236 953 252.3 4.2 14.8 69 219 32 7 19 37 87 680 28:39 22 14
2 Green Bay Packers 16 18.6 297 948 284.4 4.8 17.0 76 211 36 10 25 40 107 914 26:57 24 10
3 Baltimore Ravens 16 16.3 261 991 300.5 4.9 17.5 80 218 37 7 17 41 88 741 30:58 20 10
4 Cincinnati Bengals 16 18.2 291 980 301.4 4.9 17.2 81 210 39 7 15 47 99 767 28:27 17 6

Looks like we are making the playoffs this year since you are wrong with your predictions. Ravens 3rd overall defense last year, Bengals 4th. Get it straight, then come try and talk smack.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If your fragile little mind is having trouble comprehending how dumb your last comment was, I will sum it up for you.

- Ravens better points per game
- Ravens few yards allowed per game
- Ravens more interceptions caused
- Ravens more fumbles caused
- Ravens less than 100 yards difference between total passing yards allowed
- Ravens better rushing defense
- Ravens less penalty yards
- Ravens more playoff victories.

But thanks for the effort and your incredible predictions. Can’t wait to make the playoffs this year!!!

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you predicted we aren’t gonna make it this year, which means we will make it. Isn’t that how it goes now tough guy?

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will you at least admit that you were wrong, or are you gonna try to dodge the humiliation?

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

You think being wrong is humilliating? Try again. What’s humilliating is the effort you make to be right in a sports blog. Now that’s pathetic.

by jimbasa on Sep 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No effort really made. Took 2 minutes to take a quick look at NFL.com and ESPN.com to confirm that you were wrong and then make sure that your only retort to my comments were with childish remarks such as “you’re a douche” and “I will make you cry.” Nice.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

I wasn’t wrong about our D being top 5. I just don’t care about your team enough to see where they ranked last year.

by jimbasa on Sep 7, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know you weren’t. 4th overall is in the top 5. I know this. But I bet the icing on the cake for your prediction was saying that you would be better than we were on defense throughout the season……which you weren’t.

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is actually to both of you. Because I don’t care who is more the fool and who is less.

Don’t argue with a fool. People can’t tell the difference.

by FriarBob on Sep 7, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he is a fool, just made a foolish comment with nothing to back it up, so I corrected him. Just talking football…

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 7, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

honest question

who is baltimore’s deep threat in that receiving corps? boldin, mason, and houshmandzadeh are all possession receivers.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Sep 6, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

they don't really need a deep option.

with running game, screens, and out routes they can work the 5-15 yard game all day long. its a viable game plan.

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Sep 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell that to the 2009 bengals.

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Sep 6, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting a fighter

Whatever else you say about Housh, from bad attitude to has lost a step, etc., you’re getting a guy that is going to compete hard on every play. He blocks well and has a nasty streak on the field. Runs good routes, very good over the center.

by McWad on Sep 6, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

he’s also a guy that lets his emotions get the better of him and will commit stupid penalties in crucial moments (remember the helmet-tossing penalty against the ravens at the end of a loss when he didn’t get a pass interference call?).

i'm going to go america all over your ass!

by Raging Clue on Sep 7, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your getting insurance

He gives you four proven starters. Don’t know how Flacco can spread the balls around but you can’t go wrong for the price.

by IllinoisBengal on Sep 6, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

ozzie knows what he’s doing, rarely makes a bad move.

"wherever Brad St. Louis is and Shayne Graham is about to be." -R.F. Mehl

by palewook on Sep 6, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i won't repeat too much

you’re getting one of the better 3rd down recievers if you get the TJ from 2 or 3 years ago. the problem though, is that TJ was so good because he and carson were in synch so well. i’d be more worried about this move if it was made at the beginning of training camp than if it were now. but if flacco can develop a rapport, it’s going to make the team more difficult to get off the field on 3rd down.

your main problem is he doesn’t have a ton of speed. and with stallworth out, you’re going to have the same problem we did last year, you won’t have anyone to take the top off of the D to open up the underneath routes. that’s a serious issue considering all 3 of your top receivers are underneath guys. it’s going to get pretty cramped in the middle of the field.

john thornton seems to discredit the theory that TJ was a locker room cancer and he was in the locker room, so i wouldn’t worry about it too much. but i would worry about seattle dropping him when they literally have nothing to gain other than about 400 grand that you’re paying him that they don’t have to. but they other 7.6 mil they’re paying him to be gone isn’t a good sign.

i would also worry about him not getting the ball. i think it was a stupid move on his part. he’s not going to get anything more than vet minimum next year and for the rest of his career now because there just aren’t going to be enough plays to get him stats that will earn him anything more at his age.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Sep 6, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

What youre getting is a great possession receiver who is super dangerous on 3rd down. and a receiver who then negates his 3rd down yardage by getting personal fouls for arguing/taking off his helmet/complaining

by xbmbr88 on Sep 6, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

My opinion

I think you have 2 guys who think they are #1 recievers who are really # 2 recievers. If Boldin and TJ are on the field together I don’t see a deep threat. If Boldin and Mason start (which I think is your best lineup) then TJ may be a disruption. If TJ and Mason start then you are overpaying Boldin. If you use 3 reciever base set then you play away from your strength. You got a great possesion reciever, but I don’t think you improved your situation.

by jim0ijk on Sep 6, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Anquan 1.0??

He’s bascically an older, slower version of Boldin… but an excellent slot reciever. Carson once said he’s the best in the biz in that position

by The Dealio on Sep 6, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Does he play defense?

Last time I checked TJ plays WR and not CB.. Great move but this did nothing to help ur currently Ed Reedless secondary

by ak513 on Sep 7, 2010 1:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

lmao @ ak513

flacco sucks hes straight garbage hell hurt himself in some way lol

by Randy21205 on Sep 8, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea, he is straight garbage. How many playoff victories does Carson have?

by Mr MaLoR on Sep 8, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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