Bengals Defensive End Antwan Odom Facing Possible Four-game Suspension
by Josh Kirkendall on Sep 9, 2010 5:43 PM EDT
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PrintThe Bengals regular season was going so swimmingly. A Training Camp that saw a Brian Leonard injury being the biggest "issue". A preseason that generally went from disaster, concerning to "alright, we might be ok," brings about a Thursday afternoon in which one can say, "everything is going great." The biggest recent issue being whether or not a sixth round draft pick should be on the team's practice squad.
That is, until Thursday. Pro Football Talk confirmed an earlier report by Three Way Chili that Antwan Odom is facing a four-game suspension for violating the league's steroids policy. However, according to PFT, there might be a strong case for Odom in his appeals.
We're told that an appeal is pending, and that Odom believes he has strong arguments in favor of a reduction or a reversal of the appeal.
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Maybe this is why his weight has went down and then drastically back up..
This guy has had a huge contract and really only produced a couple of games for us.. This just further makes him a free agent bust in my mind.. Cut our losses and start Fanene..
+1
In light of this, Fanene might be the more talented player (when Odom is not on Steroids.
This is our year!
Frostee
Keeping Frostee Rucker finally makes sense to me.
Still doesn't make sense to me.
Even if Odom doesn’t win his appeal, there’s Michael Johnson, Fanene, Dunlap, and Geathers to play DE.
I can take arrests, dui's, and hot tempers
but I can’t stand being labeled cheater’s or drug addicts.. This is just embarrassing..
Really?
accidently or otherwise taking some drugs which naturally occur in the body is worse than raping a woman in a bathroom while using contacts with the local police to hamper any investigation?
by Sheffieldbengal on Sep 9, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when has a Bengals fan had to hear about how horrible a Steeler's player is?
I was talking about the heat I get from being a Bengals fan.. I can take Dui’s, fights and even gun charges(if i had money and fame I’d carry a gun to), but cheating and being involved with drugs is embarrassing.
i was just arguing
that using performance inhancing drugs accidently or otherwise really isn’t that high on the list of sins one should be worried about.
Put it another way… driving when drunk can kill whereas substance abuse rearely causes a fatality and at most causes one’s ball to shrink. I’d be more embarrased by a Bengal being caught driving while drunk than allegedly using drugs which often are found naturally at high levels in atheletes
by Sheffieldbengal on Sep 9, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re kidding yourself if you believe that the NFL is doesn’t know the difference between natural level’s and level’s that are caused by taking the performance enhancing drugs. As far as the D.U.I’s go as a fan drinking doesn’t directly reflect how a player is going to perform on the team he’s rooting for ( a team that already has a checkered image). It’s a difference in a opinion I guess. Hopefully his appeal has something to do with the recovery from his Achilles Tendon and was medically prescribed something that would affect his level’s in the wrong way.
Difference between naturally high and artifically levels
is tiny (oldest friend is a medical researcher who looks at how hormone levels affect likelihood of cancer) it is basically just subjective interpretation.
That said… i think this is a case of agree to disagree
by Sheffieldbengal on Sep 9, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Odom may be overhyped anyways...
He’s never had more than 8 sacks in a season, and last year 4 or 5 of his sacks came against the packers 2 string left tackle. In comparison, Fanene had 6 sacks and didn’t start the first half of the season. Regardless, I hope these rumors aren’t true… or that he can buck the suspension
Either one sounds good
Just it kinda came outta left field. I hope they’re not true, considering how sudden the news was, but even so…
Makes Sense
Dude gets let go by the Titans without a fight, puts on 15 pounds, starts what would appear to be one of the all-time break out seasons for a player when he was leading the NFL in sacks within the first few weeks, then suddenly ruptures his achilles tendon at age 27. Yea….. there’s no way he’s on steroids…
wrong
it’s ignorant to make stupid assumptions like you two are doing.
by GrizzlyRider on Sep 12, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
It's possible
There was something in his beds from when he was sick.
RIP Slim.
by brandone on Sep 9, 2010 6:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Seems to be a strong connection between his injury and steriod use.
It appears people that use steroid’s are at a higher risk to rupture there Achilles Tendon and a controversial way of treating it is injecting steroids. Obviously there has to be some kind of connection whether it helped cause his injury or he was seeking to help fix it or both. Either way it’s not allowed by the NFL and it’s a shame because I looked at Odom as a classy guy prior to this situation and I’m sure many others did to. He has unfortunately compromised his image now.
If that was true he would ahve tested positive earlier
guys recovering from injury are given all kinds of stuff by their doctors, alot of which is in a very grey area when it comes to steroids
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Drugs or Rape
I am a father of 2 daughters. What do we worry about the most? drug abuse or rape. I think rape. A 200lb plus man against a 110lb plus daughter. The rapist ought to be neutered and since my girls don’t drugs hang the rapist
You know what else is terrible? Genocide. Something else that has absolutely nothing to do with Antwan Odom and steroids. Why drug abuse OR rape? Why can’t we disapprove of both. Shitty argument.
to be fair, drugs have done some wonderful things for society; e.g., the beatles.
i'm going to go america all over your ass!
by Raging Clue on Sep 10, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I know he was sick
When I met him at the Fatburger Hamburger Eating Contest in May, he did it for charity but only eat about a half a burger, he looked thin and said he hadn’t been feeling good. I have a disease with my intestines that require going on and off of steroids a few times a year, because the drug helps speed the healing, and I could understand with the 30 plus pounds he lost since last season that he may have been on predisone. We should wait to find out more before jumping the gun. He never struck me as the kind of guy who would injest drugs just for the ability stand point of it.
prednisone is a type of anti-inflammatory medication used to treat certain pathologies, what Odom was busted for was a different type of steroid, anabolic, that is the kind the nfl tests for, if they were looking for the other kind then anyone who had a cortisone injection would test positive, I’m looking forward to what his excuse is, I hope he gets off b/c I think he helps us have a better chance of winning, but this isn’t likely going to end well, it flat out sucks that it comes so close to the opener
No, the NFL tests for all steroids, and prednisone would make you fail the test.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
i don't think so
prednisone is a completely different medication than anabolic steroids, even if they tested for it all he would have to say is hey I have an rx for prednisone from my doc and it would be over, if his doc gave him anabolic steroids that would first of all be illegal and also it goes against the drug policy of the nfl, two different types of meds, I’m a doctor
Ummm, hey doc look at this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prednisone
My doc gives me this for bronchitis and told me that it is in the steroid family, although it’s used for inflammation. He also said it would show up in a drug test, if they were testing for steroids. We happened to have this conversation for shits and giggles while I was being diagnosed with bronchitis. I asked him since I lift weights what would it do. He said basically nothing for weightlifting but is still in the steroid family. You are right 2 different meds, but in the same family.
BTW, the drug policy of the NFL is more complicated than you think. He has to let his team doc know that he is taking something that is on the banned substance list, if another doc prescribes it. So it’s not as simple to just say I have an Rx for the drug. Sorry doc!
Sorry man, I can’t read these articles right now, I didn’t mean to come off like a dick I was just frustrated with odom, hope he doesn’t get suspended, this will be the last time I try to be serious on this site, who dey!
by whodeydoc on Sep 10, 2010 3:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't think you was a dick
just wrong about what you said.
i don’t think so
Doctor or not , I’m not being a dick either. Just trying to understand why I was told prednisone was in the steroid family as you said it wasn’t.
No, I agree prednisone is a steroid, it just doesn’t help you grow muscle which is why I was getting confused, I admit I need to research this stuff because I don’t have much experience with anabolic steroids, I hope all he took was something simple like prednisone so we don’t lose him to a suspension, hope we win this Sunday too, can’t wait
by whodeydoc on Sep 10, 2010 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is the suspension active now?
Will he be able to play week 1 or have to wait for the process of his appeal?
on the glass half-full side...
his suspension opens up a roster spot for us to poach a player off another team’s PS. G/C Rich Ohrnberger comes to mind as one option. Plus this would be a great oppurtunity to reopen the Dezmon Briscoe debate!
by bengaljohnboy on Sep 9, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
half full
If Antwan does get suspended it opens up the door for Dunlap, who might actually be prove to be the better player (when not on steroids)
This is our year!
Enough already....
Odom is a beast and a huge asset to this team. It would be tough w out him for four weeks. Luckily we have depth
by quickslant on Sep 9, 2010 8:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
We played most of the season without him last year,
but still would like to have him for every game this year.
INJURY RECOVERY
Probably tryin to speed up his recovery time
Took HGH possibly?
HGH is supposed to heal you quicker and is under the steroid policy as a steroid. But is not a steroid.
Why don't we let this play out before we villify the guy
If he is guilty he will get suspended for the 4 games and come back for the other 12. We are finally in a position to just point to the next man up and move on. The way I look at it this means he will be more rested for the very tough second half schedule.
I for one long ago let go of the worry of what other people think. It feels good. Maybe some of you guys should give it a try.
"If we always agree, one of us is not necessary"
Odom on Twitter...
To my fans and teammates: Please don’t believe the rumors. Yes I tested positive for a banned substance but it wasn’t steroids or PEDs. More details to come but for now it’s a league issue that’s under appeal. Just know that I would never cheat to gain an edge in this game that I love. Don’t lose your faith in me and please don’t pass judgement based on vicious rumors until all the facts are known. Thank you for all your support I really need it now.
I love all of you,
Antwan
I'm down with that
We need everyone of the 53 to be healthy and ready to go.
2010 - The Year of the Tiger.
this is the same thing i was saying about edinson volquez.
i hate how “banned substance” automatically means “HGH STEROIDS SATAN PILLS!!!”
there are way more banned substances than we can fathom. it could be anything from a fertility drug to purple drank. i will reserve judgment until i hear the final word.
also, it would be a very bad thing to not have odom healthy this season. yeah, he may not get a lot of sacks (which i always think is an overrated stat) but he provides pressure, he’s great in the run game and gives us the depth we need.
"Now onto more important things: Punching Errorlando Cabrerror in the fucking tits." -Geki
Antwan
If he says give him the time to make it right, who am I to pass judgement on the man? I say until the appeals process runs out, I will stick by his side. And if its proven he did, well shame on him.
by James Schmid the great on Sep 10, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions
Well, he did say it wasn't steroids or PEDs but a banned substance under the steroid policy.
I believe him and why not. Until this plays out fully.
My God
Can we all settle down a bit. It’s been rumored that this is not for roids or PED’s and still everyone is on here ready to ban him for life. Some of these items on the “banned” list can be bought at GNC and used by a 17 year old. Let’s settle down a touch and show the man soem support until we hear something to prove him wrong.
calm down ppl
liveing in the nfc north(been a bengal 20+ yrs) i just remember two fat purple turds who also tested positive for a band suptence(it was some diet pill from walley word)they got band for 4 games like two yrs ago and i think their appeal is so going on. if is some thing minor forgive and forget major lets have fat ass smith give a stink face.
x
I could sleep when I lived alone.
Is there a ghost in my house?
by supergrover on Sep 10, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
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