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2011 NFL Draft Bengals Watch List: Top-Four Will Vary

According to almost every website that has anything to do with the NFL or the upcoming draft and has taken the time to rank the top-32 college prospects (post Andrew Luck) and they all seem to have the same top-four soon to be rookies on their lists. Those four are: Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green, LSU cornerback Patrick Peterson, Clemson defensive end Da'Quan Bowers and Auburn defensive lineman Nick Fairley. Each of these players have the ability to immediately start for the team that selects them in the draft and each have the ability to make an immediate impact.

The four NFL teams that have the top-four picks in the upcoming draft are, in order, the Carolina Panthers, the Denver Broncos, the Buffalo Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals. Fortunately for these teams, they have a top-five pick to help their team recover from their abysmal seasons. Unfortunately, each team only gets one top-five pick when they could each probably use two or three.

Also, unfortunately for anybody who wants to waste their time (ME!) trying to predict what teams will draft which players, the top-four teams in the 2011 NFL draft could probably use any one of the top-four picks equally.

For example, there is no question that the Carolina Panthers could use A.J. Green because they lack a No. 1 receiver. Green is the kind of player that can change an offense and stop the opposing defenses from stacking the box against DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Mike Goodson or whoever the Panthers quarterback is handing the ball off to.

On the other hand, the Panthers lost Julius Peppers before the 2010 season to the Chicago Bears and with him, went their pass rush ability. One of the most important qualities that a winning team needs to have is the ability to get to the opposing quarterback. There are just too many good quarterbacks in the NFL that can shred a defense if they're left to stand in the pocket. Considering this, the Panthers could draft Bowers with the first overall pick.

Who knows?

It goes like this all the way until the No. 4 pick. Realistically, the Bengals could be on the clock with any of these players left for them to select. The question is, who will be left? Will the Bengals even select one of these top-four with their pick regardless of which of these four is available?

Because the three teams before the Bengals could pick any of the top-four prospects in any order, let's go through all four of them.

If A.J. Green is available:

Would the Bengals pass up on this No. 1 receiver? He's big, he's fast and he can catch. He will make defensive coordinators nervous and make safeties and defensive backs shake in their cleats. However, the Bengals failed TOcho experiment may make the Bengals weary of drafting a wide receiver in the first round. Terrell Owens and Chad Ochocinco on the same team may look glorious on paper but it was everything but glorious on the field. What would make the A.J. Ocho show any different?

That is assuming that Ochocinco is on the Bengals roster when the draft takes place in April. The Bengals have said that they picked up his option but that doesn't necessarily mean that they won't trade him. If they do find themselves Ocho-less for the first time in 10 years, A.J. Green could compliment the young quartet of Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell, Jordan Shipley and Jermaine Gresham.

If Da'Quan Bowers is available:

If Bowers is available when Cincinnati is on the clock for the first time, the Bengals could draft him with the hopes of creating a Bowers-Dunlap super duo of quarterback carnage. Carlos Dunlap broke the Bengals rookie sack record held by Justin Smith this season with 9.5 but he was also the only defensive end that was able to make his way to the quarterback throughout the season. Antwan Odom spent some time on suspension and the rest of the time on IR. Robert Geathers only found his way to the quarterback once and second year defensive end/outside linebacker Michael Johnson 2.5 times. What does that tell you? It tells me that Dunlap could use a better side kick on the other side of the line.

If Bowers is available and the Bengals select him, it means that Odom and Geathers should update their resumes because they don't have jobs in Cincinnati anymore. It also means that Michael Johnson is going back to a back-up role or that he's going to be working as an outside linebacker once again.

If Patrick Peterson is available:

If Patrick Peterson is available and the Bengals select him with their No. 4 pick, it unfortunately means that the Bengals likely decided it best to part ways with Johnathan Joseph. Peterson and Leon Hall would be the new cornerback duo in the Bengals secondary.

I find it hard to believe that the Bengals would allow Joseph to walk out the door without a fight. If they do sign him or use the franchise tag on him, and Peterson is the player available, would they still draft him for the future? Probably not. The Bengals might grab Alabama defensive tackle Marcell Dareus or North Carolina defensive end Robert Quinn with their No. 4 pick.

If Nick Fairley is available:

If Fairley is the guy left over out of the top-four prospects when the Bengals are on the board would they select this dominating and dirty defensive tackle? He showed why he's worthy or a top-five draft pick in the national championship game where he dominated the Oregon Ducks offense like a man among boys. He was in the quarterbacks face on every passing down and was one of the major reasons that the Auburn Tigers were able to slow the Ducks 300-plus yard per game rushing yard average down to 75 yards.

If Fairley is on the board and the Bengals decide that he's their man, it would likely mean that Pat Sims and Tank Johnson aren't their men any longer. Drafting Fairley in the first round would put him in the starting lineup next to Domata Peko where his "dirty" attitude could add a much needed spark to the Bengals defense.

So what's the Bengals best case scenario? Of these four players who could the Bengals use the most? All Pro Blogger John Thornton has an opinion on who the Bengals should use their No. 4 overall pick for if he's available.

 If I had to choose a guy for the Bengals right now, it would be Georgia WR AJ Green.  He is a big NFL ready WR and he is a No 1 type play maker short and deep.  Something that the Bengals are lacking in the passing game.  DT Nick Fairley would be my second choice.  He’s truly Warren Sapp-like.  Real deal.  But the Peko/Sims/Atkins DT rotation is ok.   Bowers would be my 3rd choice and he would be a luxury pick because of the good young DE’s on the roster.  And Peterson is my 4th.  He’s a very good cover guy and can return punts.  Based on the teams drafting #1 through #3, any of these guys could be gone before #4.  But one will be left standing.

What do you think?

Poll
Which player would you most like to be available when the Bengals are on the clock?
A.J. Green
240 votes
Da'Quan Bowers
191 votes
Patrick Peterson
50 votes
Nick Fairley
531 votes
Other
36 votes

1048 votes | Poll has closed

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DT rotation is okay ...

they need better than okay. If Fairley could come in and dominate how much more effective does Dunlap become ? Hasn’t Sims played DE ? Couldn’t he become a DT/DE to replace Rucker or Fanane if both aren’t resigned ? Would Fairley make Peko and the other DTs more effective ? If Fairley is gone I would take Bowers or trade down. Taking a WR with the number 4 pick is really rolling the dice. Look at the Steelers and Ravens they invest their defensive high picks on DL,LB,S and then CBs. If you can put more pressure on the QB it reduces the need for the elite CB.

by redberkey on Jan 12, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

agree here...

…I don’t think that drafting Fairley says anything about Sims, although it may be the end for Tank. We need a rotation and Fairley would be good 3 gap player along with Atkins with Peko or Sims as one gappers.

by goffchile on Jan 12, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Fairley.

we could only be so lucky to have him fall to us at 4. from what i gather, he’s a monster in the trenches and he’s even been accused of playing a little dirty. i kinda like that as long as he’s not out to injure anybody. he seems like he’d fit right into the system and the AFC north in general. Tank can be shown the door, and we’ll have a nice rotation of Peko, Fairley, Sims, and Atkins.

by GrooveLeg on Jan 12, 2011 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

I love Fairley,

and I voted for him in the above poll.

But I get goosebumps thinking about AJ Green and Jerome Simpson as the starting wideouts. Add Shipley and Gresham inside, and you have a great combo of athleticism, size, hands and speed for Palmer to work with. As long as Green runs the damn routes that he’s told, he’s better than Ocho.

Same old Cyanide, new look.

by Pardon_My_French on Jan 12, 2011 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Why does drafting Perterson mean that Joseph is done?

Couldn’t it mean that they want to get another guy in there and learn for a year before they let Hall walk?

by smoormandiddy on Jan 12, 2011 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

RE:

Are you suggesting that the Bengals look that far ahead? :)

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by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 12, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

We should be...

…my thought is always sign FAs for the present, draft for the future. Peterson could immediately make an impact as a nickel/dime back and kick returner and eventually become a Safety or CB.

by goffchile on Jan 12, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

They did when they drafted Joseph

At the time they had James and O’Neil. For at least the first half of the year Joseph played nickle until they realized he was much better than either of the starters. (this is starting to sound like every other personel move)

by smoormandiddy on Jan 12, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see Fairley starting alongside Sims not Peko

I’m not sure why everyone thinks Peko is a good or decent DT. He easily gets pushed around and he is slow. Look at his stats, its declining every year.
Peko is the guys that shows up just in time to jump on top of the pile enough time for the announcer to call his name too.

by cilii_blog on Jan 12, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Sims. Not Peko. Peko needs to be the rotation player with Sims starting.

by ddbumpus on Jan 12, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone know...

Hey fans, I’m stuck down here in Cowboy land and don’t always hear the latest Bengal news. Since Marvin is staying has he fired any coaches yet… Brat in particular?

by Texas Bengal on Jan 12, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

Nothing official yet

But in truth, the Bengals haven’t signed any of their coaches. All of them are on expired contracts right now.

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by Josh Kirkendall on Jan 12, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

are they going to work the senior bowl for free?

"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski

by featherman on Jan 12, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

My guess is that all bets are off until there is a CBA agreement.

I still think anything could happen as far as coaching changes.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jan 12, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This is nuts, there is only one choice

And its Peterson. JJ won’t re-sign with the Bengals cuz he will get 7 or 8 mill on the open market. Bengals won’t pay plus he’s injury prone. Pacman hurt his neck and is questionable. Hall is a free agent in 2012. Plus their safeties stink.
Secondary is where the Bengals focus the draft and FA once they get a new CBA.

With Big Ben and Flacco with great arms, the Bengals are dead without a vastly improved secondary.

by BENGALS69 on Jan 12, 2011 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

They'll sign Joseph.

First they’ll franchise him and then resign him. They gave 7 million to Antonio Bryant – they’ll shuck it out for Joseph, who actually seems to want to be here still.

by ddbumpus on Jan 12, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Even if they give Joseph a new contract, he isn’t exactly the unbreakable ironman of NFL CBs. He does have his injury issues. I hope Adam gets healthy and can come back too. In this age, you can never have too many good CBs. A look at the injuries our defense sustained in the secondary this past season points to the validity of your point.

If you are looking strictly at positions of need, I think Guard and Safety are our top needs.

by SnapCount80 on Jan 12, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

no comprende

Why spend a high pick and top dollar on a unproven rookie while you have a star at that position already? Pay the man. On draft front…got to go O or D line. Fairley would be sweet but hell be gone. I’d probably go w him or Darius.

by quickslant on Jan 12, 2011 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why wouldn't you pay JJoe 7-8 mill per year??

A top 5 pick means a 50 mil for 5 years for an unknown product. Why wouldn’t you give that money to JJoe who has proven he’s a top 5 corner?

by Marc57 on Jan 12, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said re-signing J-Jo was bad only

That the Bengals won’t do it. There might not even be a franchise tag with the next CBA and if they did have one and used it, they are paying J-Jo Darrelle Revis money and clearly Revis is a much better CB than J-Jo.
If they re-sign J-Jo than good bye Hall next season, so even more motivation to take a very good looking CB now, while you have the chance.

by BENGALS69 on Jan 12, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Not next year.

There’s no way there is a season next year without a rookie wage scale. Most believe the #1 pick will be at about 5 years 15-20 mil. That’s why you draft a rookie instead of paying his replacement. But I’d still take jjoe

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Jan 12, 2011 10:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Fairley

I was not a Fairley fan going into the National Championship game on Monday, but after watching him destroy an Oregon offensive line that may be a tad undersized, but has played outstanding this season…I’m a believer. He also brings a toughness/nastiness that we could use on Defense.

I say grab Fairley if he’s available and then look for someone like Cameron Heyward in the 2nd if he’s there. That gives you a great young line, and while Heyward is no Bowers, he’ll compliment Dunlap quite well.

by JaredM on Jan 12, 2011 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Heyward is like Geathers.

Solid player, nothing spectacular. At this point he’s an upgrade.

by ddbumpus on Jan 12, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

None.

Nobody top 10 at least.

by ddbumpus on Jan 12, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Pouncey from Florida is a C/G who could go late first, early second.

And Cannon From TCU is another possibility in the 2nd.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jan 12, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

2nd round we will either draft a linemen or safety.

Whichever is best player available! Hell….we could draft a reciever, d-line, linebacker, running back….honestly anything at this point.

by ddbumpus on Jan 12, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope we go OLine

We need some serious talent upgrades on the line.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jan 13, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Out of the top four listed above

I’d be happy with any of them. Bowers is probably the least needed because I think MJ and Dunlap should be getting most of the snaps at the end position. Let’s hope the Bengals don’t screw it up and take someone else not currently in the top 4-5 picture.

"When you chart (the plays) and see where it broke down there was no common theme to it." - Bob Bratkowski

by featherman on Jan 12, 2011 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

Fairley son!

Let him come in and give those dirty birds and squeelers some of their own medicine.

by TCfromDubVee on Jan 12, 2011 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

My predictions is....

that we wont take any of the top 4 available… We will pull an okie doke like OAK did with Heyward-Bey. Bengals aren’t smart enough to take a player that will add attitude to the defensive side of the ball. We need a “Suggs” a “Polamalu” a “Harrison” on defense. There is no player like that currently on D that ppl are “afraid” of. I WANT FAIRLEY!!!!!!

by cincity8285 on Jan 12, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

What a great post...

Thank you for penning such a sound post for this discussion. At this juncture, three plus months away from the draft, there appear to be four players rotating around the top four selections, and I think the Bengals should be happy with any of them. I know many people will have strong opinions about who is the best fit, because many people believe themselves to be geniuses about how to run an NFL team, but the fact is that a lot of who the Bengals pick will be out of their hands, and be determined by what players are selected in the top 3. The only advice I give the community is to not fall deeply in love with one of these four players, because there is a good chance that you may be let down on draft day when your coveted asset is drafted ahead of the Bengals.

The only way I see some deviation of these players being selected in the top 4 would be Buffalo falling in love with Newton (not likely) or Gabbert (still not likely), or some team falling in love with Robert Quinn during workouts. Quinn was ranked second or third before the season by Scouts Inc. and I wonder if Denver will see him as a 3-4 DE, though I’m not sure he is. I still think Denver grabs Peterson but Quinn may be the guy to sneak into the top 4 for one of these teams.

by Just Chris on Jan 12, 2011 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

Are you telling me I'm not a genius?

 I think my 2009 Fantasy football team would have something to say about that.

This is our year!

by Paul Cannon on Jan 13, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

A.J. Green

We gotta take him. He will be the #1 guy when Chad leaves. Plus, there are no big play, 1-3 round wide receivers anymore besides him because, Michael Floyd, Ryan Broyles, and Justin Blackmon all just announced they are returning to school.

by STJ32 on Jan 12, 2011 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Unfortunately....

The BCS title game almost assures that Fairley will be gone

by laibach on Jan 12, 2011 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

Not necessarily.

There’s still plenty of time for gabbert, green, Peterson, and bowers to dominate the combine and senior bowl.

RIP Slim.

by brandone on Jan 12, 2011 10:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well...

Honestly I’m glad that we have this problem of being #4 and having an embarrassment of riches at the top of the draft….and while I hope we get Fairley or Green, I’d be more than happy with Dareus, bowers, quinn, etc etc.

by ddbumpus on Jan 12, 2011 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

give me

Fairley would absolutely finish off what could be a super young and dominating D-Line.
I don’t care what anyone says about Green, receivers are a dime a dozen, We could easily pick up a good player in the 2 or 3rd round.
If not Fairley ,then Patrick Peterson. We gotta replace J Joe or Hall, cause we won’t be keeping them both.

"Next season will be better" circa 1990
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by Yarin on Jan 13, 2011 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

Peterson

Is the best player in the draft. Take him. Who knows whats going to happen with Joseph and Hall? If they are able to sign them… they will finally have a FS that can cover.

by kirby28 on Jan 13, 2011 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

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